Ramanis Posts ‘Outrageous’?

But people do trust blindly history of Christ,Prophet,whose existence is not proved as scientifically as Rama’s or Krishna’s.

They take Bible as Gospel,which was complied three hundred years after the supposed Christ,by Constantine for political purposes.

Not the Vedas,which are dated by Etymology,references in Foreign sources of that time or immediately after that.

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I received an an interesting comment on my article

‘Abraham Descendant of Brahmins, Kashmir Kaul

‘I have been reading your blog posts forvthe past six months but this post is outrageous. Just because some sounds are similar that does not account vfor ancestry’

I receive a lot of comments,most of them complimentary.

But I value comments like the one above.

True,most of my findings seem outrageous even to me.

But the evidence is compelling.

In the post referred to, I can state that if one were to read all my articles,this article may not be surprising.

The Arabian civilization borrowed from Mesapotamia,and Hitties.

Most of us might not even heard of these ancient civilizations because they are not taught in schools.

These civilizations are traced back to the Tamils and Sanatana Dharma.

These civilizations had extensive trade relations with India and Tamils.

Thirty thousand year old Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu had trade relations with Greece.

That it is thirty thousand year old is not my finding.

It is by Archeolgists.

Krishna’s Dwaraka is dated 32,000 years.

Agastya moved from the North to South,crossing the Vindhyas around 5100 BC and this corresponds to Lord Rama’s Date.

Jwalapuram,Cuddapa,Andhra Pradesh is dated 74,000 years ago.

Early Roman settlements have been excavated near Madurai,Tamil Nadu.

Lord Vishnu’s Idol  was unearthed in Russia.

It is dated before Christ was thought of.

The Construction of Chichen Itza resembles Madurai Meenakshi temple.

Roman Emperors with Sri Vaishnavas are found in Egypt.

Australia provides evidence of ancient people with Vaishnava Marks.

Cookes Island,New Zealand,Nazca Lines of Peru are accurately described in the Kishkinta Kanda of Ramayana.

So are Wormholes described in the Ramayana.

Thirty nine archeological sites have been found in India that prove Mahabharata.

Ramayana landmarks described by Valmiki are exactky the same even today!

Greek Historians Strabo,Megasthanes describe Krishna and Shiva concepts having been appropriated and modified by Greeks.

Rig Veda is dated at 5000 years ago and is considered as the First Literary Work Of The World.

The first two lines of Purusha Smitha,A Vedic Mantra,when properly understood produces Electricity.A Bangalore Company is producing Batteries on this principles.

Pi Value was found by Indians.

Pi value is found in a prayer to Krishna.

Korean Queen was from Ayodhya.

Chatur Veda is found in Vietnam.

Cambodia had Hindu Temole Angkor Vat.

Siberians worship Ayur Devatas of Hinduism.

Australian tribes perform Shiva Trinetra Dance even today.

Aerial view of St.Peters ,Vatican looks like Shiva Linga with Base,Avudayar.

Kublai Khan consecrated a Shiva Temple in Mangolia.

Look at the architecture of Hindu temples.

Sculptures that look as Man in the frontal view and woman from behind,

Idols that change colors once a fortnight,five times a day,

Water drips on the Idol from somewhere which has no water source,

Idols that seem to look only at you,

Stone pillars that make basic seven notes of Carnatic Music,

Stone pillar that supports Roof does not rest on the ground,

Sun’s Rays fall on the Idol on a specific day:Specific Time,

Five Shiva Temples aligned at the same longitude,

Out of 23 Geometrically aligned sacred sites of the world,seven beling to Hinduism and the others converted from Hinduism,

Gayatri Mantra produces Sri Yantra,

Chamaka explains DNA strands…

The list is endless.

Sounds outrageous.

Yes.

But proved.

But people do trust blindly history of Christ,Prophet,whose existence is not proved as scientifically as Rama’s or Krishna’s.

They take Bible as Gospel,which was complied three hundred years after the supposed Christ,by Constantine for political purposes.

Not the Vedas,which are dated by Etymology,references in Foreign sources of that time or immediately after that.

This statement is by the West.

Such is our Slavish mentality and contempt for our Culture and History imposed by Invaders and Colonialists, we refuse our hoary past and brand ourselves Liberals to seek acceptance by the West.

For such intellectual giants, I have provided sources whom they adore,the West, in my articles.

Less of Indian sources.

But,

I shall continue my journey of ‘outrageous posts’, so long as they remain disproved, ridicules notwithstanding.

:Asato Ma Sat Gamaya, lead me from Untruth to Truth’

Posts on Pre Islamic Religion and Practices follow.

For more Outrageous Posts Part 1, 41 articles

 

Bhuvarahaswamy Temple Near Melkote

One is basically a ruse to grab land( Christians and Muslims also indulge in this) by installing an Idol and as the visitors increase a temple /Church/Masjid is built.In the case of Islam,in lieu of Idol a green flag is installed initially.

The second one is built by Mutts, Religious Organisations.

Some of them are sanctified by Kumbabhisheka performed according to Agamas.

These are very few.


India has about 800,000 Temples.

Thanks to Rationalists,(in India Rationalists are those who deny Hinduism and abuse only Hinduism,never open their mouths about Christianity or Islam),new temples are springing up ,not only in India but abroad.

There are two kinds.

One is basically a ruse to grab land( Christians and Muslims also indulge in this) by installing an Idol and as the visitors increase a temple /Church/Masjid is built.In the case of Islam,in lieu of Idol a green flag is installed initially.

The second one is built by Mutts, Religious Organisations.

Some of them are sanctified by Kumbabhisheka performed according to Agamas.

These are very few.

I normally visit temples referred to in ancient Sanskrit /Tamil Texts and over five hundred years old.

The power of a Temple is directly proportional to the sanctity of construction and the Mantras chanted.

At times on the recommendation of close friends ,I visit temples that have been built by Religious Organisations.

For instance,the Ayyappa Temple in Tiruchirapalli.

I had written on this.

One such temple I visited recently is the Sree Bhuvarahaswamy Temple, about thirty kilometers from Melkote, Karnataka.

This temple ,built by Madhwa organisation, is very beautiful and poojas are done properly.

The temple complex complex is under construction.

The Moolavar is Bhuvarahaswamy holding Bhudevi and it is a giant sized Vigraha.

Though the infrastructure is yet to improve, sanitation and parking facilities are available.

Free food is offered between twelve and one pm.

Murugan Married Valli Kumarakoil Padai Veedu, NOT At Thiruthani?

Nachinarkiniyar , a commentator of ancient Tamil Grammar mentions this fact.

Silapaddikaram, one of the Five Epics of Tamil penned by the brother of the Great Chera King Cheran Chengkuttuvan, mentions this as well.

He was Illangovadigal.

So Thiruthani is not the place where Lord Murugan married Valli and it was Kumaran Koil.


Among the six Major Subrahmanya Temples in Tamil Nadu( Subrahmanya is called Murugan in Tamil), Thiruthani is believed to be the place where Subrahmanya married Valli.

Thiruthani is in the northern parts of Tamil Nadu and a small hillock.

But historical evidence suggests that it is not so and Murugan married Valli in Kumaran Koil in Kanyakumari District, Tamil Nadu and it was a part of Ancient Chera Kingdom of the Tamils.

Nachinarkiniyar , a commentator of ancient Tamil Grammar mentions this fact.

Silapaddikaram, one of the Five Epics of Tamil penned by the brother of the Great Chera King Cheran Chengkuttuvan, mentions this as well.

He was Illangovadigal.

So Thiruthani is not the place where Lord Murugan married Valli and it was Kumaran Koil.

Wherever there is a hill, there is an abode for Lord Murugan.’ True to this saying, there is a beautiful temple for Lord Murugan at the foothill of Velimalai, on the southern tip of the Indian subcontinent, fifteen kilometers northwest of Nagercoil on the road to Thiruvananthapuram, bordering the town of Padmanabhapuram.

Set in scenic surroundings, the temple is renowned among all the Murugan temples in Kanyakumari District. There are many versions as to how the hill derived its name veli malai. Vel was the surname for the Ay rulers. The Ay kingdom was a medieval Hindu feudal kingdom on the Malabar coast of South India. The hill that belonged to the Ay rulers came to be called as Velimalai. It is also known as Velvi Malai since Lord Murugan performed a yagna of sublime love, for the purpose of union of jivatma with Paramatma.

Kumarakovil is also known as Kumara Kshetram and Subrahmanya Sthala in Malayalam. The early Tamil epic Cilappatikkaram refers to the temple as Chera Nattu Aeragam.

Kumarakovil is a very ancient temple, as attested by the massive sculpture of Lord Murugan in a style dating from the Buddhist period. Buddhism probably flourished from 650-850 CE in Kerala. However, the available inscriptions about the temple date from from the 18th century CE only.

The temple is accessed through a flight of forty steep steps. Lord Murugan graces the devotees with His consort Valli. He is faces the east and said to be facing Sthanumalayan (Lord Siva) of Suchindram. The idol of Lord Murugan is a monolithic sculpture measuring eight feet and eight inches in height. Its long ears indicate that it belongs to the Buddhist period. Goddess Valli who adorns the sanctum is six and a half feet tall. Nandipadam and Murugan Padam on the top of the hill are believed to be the imprints of Nandi and Murugan.

Kalyana Vinayakar, who aided His brother in His marriage with Valli is in the right side of the entrance to the inner circumambulatory path. On the western circumambulatory path there is a shrine for Kasi Lingam and on the southern circumambulatory path there are shrines for Mahadevar, Sivakami and Chadikeswarar. The unique feature of this temple is that there is a shrine for Daksha, the maternal grandfather of Lord Murugan.

The sacred tree of the temple is a venerated vengai tree that is a hundred years old. Here, Arumuga Nayinar (Lord Murugan) is flanked by both His consorts, Valli and Deivayanai. This temple is associated with the legends of Valli’s marriage with Murugan. This is said to be the birth place of Valli.

Valli guhai is on the top of the hill which is two kilometers off the main temple, Valli sunai, a pond where Valli took bath, Valli colai, the millet field that Valli guarded, and kizhavan colai is where Murugan came in the disguise of an old man to woo Valli. The protocol of worship offered here is Kerala Tantram.

Celestial Wedding
The divine wedding of Valli and Murugan is celebrated with great fervor in the Tamil month of Panguni (March-April) and is attended by thousands of pilgrims all over the state. Kuravar Patukalam, the war waged by Valli’s relatives against Murugan, is colourfully re-enacted during the divine wedding. The seven-day festival begins in the star of Anuradha in the month of Panguni. On the day of the wedding Manavalakkumaran (processional deity) seated in a palanquin proceeds towards Tiru Kalyana Mandapam which is at a distance of two kilometers from the temple. After the celestial wedding the deities are taken in procession back to the temple.

En route we witness the ceremonial Kuravar patukalam. Kuravas (tribal folk of the hill) wage a war against Lord Murugan in line with the legend associated with Murugan and Valli’s marriage. When the wedded couple reaches the rear entrance of the temple, Kuravas surrender to Lord Murugan and happily consent to the marriage. Then Lord Murugan is propitiated with abhishekam and deeparadhanai and a formal wedding is celebrated at night in the decorated temple mandapam bedecked with flowers. During the marriage, Valli colai, Vatta colai, Kizavan colai…etc are given as gifts to Lord Murugan from the bride’s side. This gift list is read aloud in the assembly. Kum-kum, honey and millet flour are given as prasadam after the divine wedding.’

Source. http://murugan.org/temples/kumarakoil.htm

The temple is considered to be one of the “Padai veedu” (the places where the Lord showered devine powers) of Lord Muruga. The sangam literature “Thirumurugattu Padai” written by poet Nakkeerar refers to the place unique in the sense that the devotees there wear only wet clothes only in the lower part of their body and enter the temple in the early morning with flowers to have oblation. This unique feature of worship is being followed there at Kumaran Koil till date. Prof. N.K. Mangala Murugesan in his book “Muruganin Arupadai veedugal” write, As per Thirumurugattupadai, in Earagthu Murugan temple, the Brahmins who observed a bharamacharya viradha for forty eight years sang veda mantras and the Aruchagas wearing wet lower garments and saying the six letter manthra (ohm saravanabhava) performed archanas. This practice is in vogue in Kumara shetram even now. On this basis, Earagam is Kumara shethram or Subramania Sthala besides the western ghats.

The Tamil epic “Silappathykaram” written by Illangovadigal refers four shetras (temples) as Padai veedu of Lord Muruga. Silappathikaram Vanji Kandam refers to,-“seerkezhu Senthilum, Sengodum, Venkuntum, Eragamum Neenga Eraivankai Vel …..” These are perhaps Thruchendur, Palani, Thirupparankuntam, Kumarakoil (Thiruveragam) situate in present-day Madurai, Thoothukudi and Kanyakumari Districts. Some say that venguntu is Swamimalai. How it could be that scholars like Elangovadigal omit the place at which murugan married Deivanai, that too very near to the city of Madurai which is the theme centre of Silappathikaram. After burning Madurai, Kannagi went alongside Vaigai river and reached Western ghats. There, the people saw Kannagi and enquired about her. They exclaimed that you are like our Valli, but you are in distress. Who are you? Mangala Devi Koil dedicated to Kannagi by the Madurai King Cheran Chenguttuvan is in the Mangaladevi mountains alongside Periyaru river. This enhance the belief that Valli was brought up in western ghats.

Nachinarkuenier who had written meaning (arumpathavurai) for the poetry Thirumurugattupadai asserted that Earagam is ‘Malai Nattu Oru Thiruppathi’. Malai Nadu means Cheralam now known as Kerala. Veli Malai was part of Travancore Samasthanam in olden days. The place was part of Cherala Nadu when Silapathigaram was written. After Independence too this place was part of the present Kerala State. After a prolonged agitation under the leadership of great leaders like Nesamani Nadar, Ponnappa Nadar etc., the taluks of Thovalai, Agastheeswaram, Kalkulam, Vilavancode, and half of Neyyatinkarai were ceded to Tamil Nadu.

Source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumarakovil

Swamymalai Arupadai Veedu Is Not Thiruveragam, Velimalai Kumaran Koil Is?

IT is in the Western Ghats, down deep south in agreement with ancient landmass and Lankan chronicles call Murugan as Kattrama and Valli the consort of Murugan.

And Thiruveragam, the old name seems to fit Velimalai in Kumaran Koil.

So it looks as though Swamymalai is not Thiruveragam.

And Thiruthani is not where Murugan married Valli.


There are six major temples dedicated to Lord Subrahmanya, called Murugan in Tamil Nadu.

They are,

Palani,

Thiruparankundram,

Thiruchendur,

Pazhamudhir Solai,

Thiruthani and

Swamymalai.

These six temples were called thus by Saint Arunagirinathar in the fourteenth century.

I have been checking on the special temples of Murugan from Tamil Classics, Skanda Purana, Silappadikaram, one of the Five Epics of Tamil from Sangam age and Thirumurugatrupadai by Nakkeerar , the earliest hymn on Murugan in Tamil.

I also checked with ancient Tamil Land Lemuria and Mu.

The landmass was different then.

Please check my articles on Lemuria, Mu, Rodina, Pangea, Sundaland.

Now Murugan is considered to be the personification of Tamil language which was founded by Lord Shiva and Sage Agastya.

Murugan was also involved.

When we look at the location of the six abodes of Murugan, ஆறுபடை வீடு, we find that none of them seem to fit perfectly with the landmass associated with Murugan.

Murugan is described as the God of Mountains and adjoining lands called Kurinji in Tamil, குறிஞ்சி.

Thiruchendur is on the seashore.

Palani, Thiruthani, Swamymalai and Thiruparankundram are small hills.

Pazhamudhir Solai is a forest.

So, going by Sangam definition I checked.

I have found that Kumaran Kovil near Thackalay in Kanyakumari district seems to fit one of the major temples of Murugan.

IT is in the Western Ghats, down deep south in agreement with ancient landmass and Lankan chronicles call Murugan as Kattrama and Valli the consort of Murugan.

And Thiruveragam, the old name seems to fit Velimalai in Kumaran Koil.

So it looks as though Swamymalai is not Thiruveragam.

And Thiruthani is not where Murugan married Valli.

Tiruttani constitutes one of the six Padai Veedu shrines of Skanda (Lord Subramanya), and it represents the site where Subramanya stayed after destroying the demon Surapadman. Tiruttani is said to be the place where the Lord Subramanya married Valli – one of his two consorts.

http://murugan.org/temples/tiruttani.htm

Here is the famous Subrahmanya (Muruga ) Temple by the name of “Velimalai Kumaraswamy Temple’. The temple was built on a hill named ‘Velimalai’. The name “Veli” was named from the malayalam word “veli” means marriage.It is the place where marriage of Murugan and Valli was done. Koravans used to come to the temple for marriage of valli ,since valli devi belongs to koravan community.Lord Muruga and his consort Goddess Valli are the main deities. It is believed that they married here. It is built on a rocky terrain about 200 feet in height.
The rock cut temple with stone carvings is a splendid structure. A large water body is seen in the surrounding. Majority of the devotees are from Kerala state. A police party and band from Kerala state is present on certain celebrations of this grand temple. Many children get their first feed (choor\Oonu kodupu) in this temple. There is a shed for holy animals- cow, bull, peacock in the temple courtyard. Kuramakoil is one of the holiest places for Hindus. It is about 34 kilometers from Kanyakumari and around 50 km from Trivandrum airport.

Kumarakoil is one of the important and renowned among the Murugan temples in the district of Kanyakumari Tamil Nadu. It is located near Thuckalay, 15 km from Nagercoil. Kumara Koil, also called “Kumara Shethram” and “Subramania Sthala” in Malayalam language, and “Thiruveragam” in ancient Tamil scripts is at the foot hills of the Velimalai Hills also known as “Velvi Malai”, and Merkada malai means the southern end of the western ghats. Prior to 1950, Kanyakumari District was first with Chera Kingdom (Chera Nadu) and later with Trivancore samasthanam (province) and then with present-day Kerala State. During Tamil Sangam period, Kumara Koil was known as Thiruveragam as evidenced from Thirumurugattupadai, the sangam literature written by poet Nakkeerar. The name of the temple has changed since Tamil Sangam period, under the successive rulers of the area. Thus, Kumara koil is also known as Thiruveragam (Thiru Earagam), Malai Nattu Oru Thiruppathi, Subramania Sthala, Kumara Shethra etc.

The temple is built on the foot hills of Veli Malai where, according to legends, Lord Muruga enacted a drama to win the heart of Valli the divine child found in the hillock by Nambi Arasan, a chieftain ruled over the place with Thirukurangudi (Valliyoor) as his capital. The temple faces east and can be reached by a flight of thirty eight steps. Beyond the comparatively small but beautiful rajagopuram, Veerabagu and Veeramagendra stand guard of the Lord. The statue of Muruga in the Moolasthanam is in standing posture…..

In the history of the temple written by Shri Annalar Adigal, it is stated that, the present day Kerala was known as Malay Nadu(Sandalwood Country-Malay in sanskrit means sandalwood)aka MalayAlaya ( Abode of Sandalwood). The present day Veli malai was known as Velvi malai. Before that it was known as Merkadamalai, means last part of the western ghats. As an evidence, he refers to a stone carving found in Thirunanthikarai, about ten miles from Kumarakoil wherein it reads ‘Rajaathitha Thevan Perumpadai Nayagar Malai Nattu Nanthikarai Puthur’ and another stone carving found at Thiruvithangode, reads “Malaimandalathu Ravivarmaraya Kulasekaraperuman peruntheruvil chetti Velayuthaperuman” These evidences conform to the assertion of Nachinarkiniyar that Earagam is Malai Nattu Oru Thirupathi
Velimalai is the southern tip of western ghats and Kumarakoil is in the foothills of Velimalai There are ample evidence to show Kumarakoil is the Earagam referred to in Silappadikaram.

Prof. N.K. Mangala Murugesan in his book “Muruganin Arupadai veedugal” write, As per Thirumurugattupadai, in Earagthu Murugan temple, the Brahmins who observed a bharamacharya viradha for forty eight years sang veda mantras and the Aruchagas wearing wet lower garments and saying the six letter manthra (ohm saravanabhava) performed archanas. This practice is in vogue in Kumara shetram even now. On this basis, Earagam is Kumara shethram or Subramania Sthala besides the western ghats.

The Tamil epic “Silappathykaram” written by Illangovadigal refers four shetras (temples) as Padai veedu of Lord Muruga. Silappathikaram Vanji Kandam refers to,-“seerkezhu Senthilum, Sengodum, Venkuntum, Eragamum Neenga Eraivankai Vel …..” These are perhaps Thruchendur, Palani, Thirupparankuntam, Kumarakoil (Thiruveragam) situate in present-day Madurai, Thoothukudi and Kanyakumari Districts. Some say that venguntu is Swamimalai. How it could be that scholars like Elangovadigal omit the place at which murugan married Deivanai, that too very near to the city of Madurai which is the theme centre of Silappathikaram. After burning Madurai, Kannagi went alongside Vaigai river and reached Western ghats. There, the people saw Kannagi and enquired about her. They exclaimed that you are like our Valli, but you are in distress. Who are you? Mangala Devi Koil dedicated to Kannagi by the Madurai King Cheran Chenguttuvan is in the Mangaladevi mountains alongside Periyaru river. This enhance the belief that Valli was brought up in western ghats.

Nachinarkuenier who had written meaning (arumpathavurai) for the poetry Thirumurugattupadai asserted that Earagam is ‘Malai Nattu Oru Thiruppathi’. Malai Nadu means Cheralam now known as Kerala. Veli Malai was part of Travancore Samasthanam in olden days. The place was part of Cherala Nadu when Silapathigaram was written. After Independence too this place was part of the present Kerala State. After a prolonged agitation under the leadership of great leaders like Nesamani Nadar, Ponnappa Nadar etc., the taluks of Thovalai, Agastheeswaram, Kalkulam, Vilavancode, and half of Neyyatinkarai were ceded to Tamil Nadu. In the intermittent period, when Earagam was with Cheralam, the scholars like Arunagirinathar ( 15th century) a staunch devotee of Lord Muruga was probably interested in creating one of the padai veedu in the vicinity of Kumbakonam, one of the temple cities in Tamil Nadu. In the belief that the people of Tamil Nadu had lost track of Thiruveragam, one of the Padai Veedu referred to in ancient scriptures, he had written that Earagam is Swami Malai, without considering the fact that Illangovadigal, lived thousands of years before him had written that Earagam is in Chera Nadu. Swami malai is in erstwhile Chola Nadu. The temple dedicated to Lord Muruga there is in the top of a man made hillock and the existing landmarks and practice referred to about Earagam in Thirumurugattupadai is lacking there.

Reference and Citation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumarakovil

Present Arupadai Veedu Six Murugan Temples are Not What The Original Was?

We have Kumara Parvatha, beneath which this temple is located.

The River is Kumara dhara.

Just about two hours from there is Dharmasthala, a special Kshetra of Shiva.

And further down the Western Ghats lie the two hundred and forty seven temples of Shiva established by Parashurama.


On a careful study of the Skanda Purana other Puranas Tamil Sangam work Thirumurukatruppadai by Nakkerar, (earliest work on Lord Subramanya as Murugan) and Silappadikaaram, one of the Five Tamil Epics), I have a few doubts about the present Arupadai Veedu, ஆறுபடை வீடு, the six important temples of Subrahmanya, called Murugan in Tamil.

This was reinforced when I visited Subrahmanya Temple in Kukke, Karnataka.

Kukke is from Sanskrit word Kukkuda, meaning Cock, the Flag of Lord Subrahmanya.

We have Kumara Parvatha, beneath which this temple is located.

The River is Kumara dhara.

Just about two hours from there is Dharmasthala, a special Kshetra of Shiva.

And further down the Western Ghats lie the two hundred and forty seven temples of Shiva established by Parashurama.

And Murugan is associated with Hills and surrounding areas, called Kurinji, குறிஞ்சி land in Tamil.

Though the present Arupadai of Muruga lists six places,

அழைக்கப்படுகின்றன. இந்த ஆறு இடங்கள்:

  1. திருப்பரங்குன்றம், Thiruparankundram
  2. திருச்செந்தூர் அல்லது திருச்சீரலைவாய், Thiruchendur,
  3. திருவாவினன்குடி (எ) பழனி, Palani
  4. திருவேரகம் (எ) சுவாமிமலை சுவாமிநாதசுவாமி கோயில், Swamy Malai, Thiruveragam.
  5. திருத்தணி அல்லது குன்றுதோறாடல்
  6. பழமுதிர்சோலை Pazhamudhir Solai

Of these, Thiruchendur is on the seashore, where Subrahmanya slew Surapadma of Mahendragiri( curious to find Mahendra Parvatha in Odisha ) and Thiruchendur is on the shores of Bay of Bengal.

Number one, three, Five are relatively small hills unlike Kumara Parvatha.

And Pazhamudhir Solai, near Madurai is a forest.

And the evidence from what is stated in the beginning of this articles points to Thiruveragam is in Kerala.

That is where Murugan married Valli.

Will write on this.

*Please note that this article is an articulation of my doubts and is not a conclusion, based on ancient landmass of Lemuria Rodina. Scholars may contribue

Britisher Who Saw Lord Shiva Renovated Shiva Temple  Baijnath Agar Malwa

I have written  articles on The Sage who spoke from the Grave,Goddess Meenakshi leads by hand,Goddess Abhirami plays,how,all documented.

Here is another such recorded fact.

A Britisher’s prayer to Shiva was answered and her husband saw Lord Shiva


Hinduism advocates God as A Principle,Beyond Attributes.

The underlying principle of Life and Universe,both known and Unknown lies in all these,they in It,yet It is beyond them.

It is the Reality,Brahman.

This Brahman is without beginning and end.

It is Infinite.

It is beyond words,thoughts.

It Immanent and as well all Pervasive.

It can be felt and Realized.

There are various methods tried to Realize Brahman,also known as the Self.

There are as many paths,methods to Realize Brahman as many individuals and individual dispositions are.

To understand this principle and realize Brahman as a Priniple,Beyond Attributes is possible only for a few.

Brahman is Realized and not Known in the manner of our knowing mundane things.

It is,for short of words, I use this term, Experienced.

Experiences,all of them need not be through our sense organs alone.

However as this understanding of Brahman as Principle,Hinduism has suggested the method of Realizing Brahman through worship of Personal God,called Easwara.

Please read my article on Iswara Pranidhana,Yoga.

In this method God is related as Preceptor,Father,Mother,Guru,Friend,Lover……

The mind relates to things it likes.

So one is advised to choose the Devatha as he pleases,in consultation with a Guru,who can guide him in choosing what is best .

This worship of Personal God is called Saguna Aradhana,while the realization process of Brahman as The Absolute is called Nirguna Aradhana.

According to Vedas,the authority for Hindus on Spirituality,Saguna Aradhana leads to Realization.

Many Gods are found in Hindu traditions because of this thought,though the substratum of all is,One.

Among many Gods/Goddesses,three are called the Trimurthis,the Trinity.

Brahma,Vishnu and Shiva,representing Potential,Kinetic and Potentio-kinetic energy respectively.

And the Trimurthis are attributed with all human and beyond human Attributes.

The prayers addressed to them Delivers.

I have written  articles on The Sage who spoke from the Grave,Goddess Meenakshi leads by hand,Goddess Abhirami plays,how,all documented.

Here is another such recorded fact.

A Britisher’s prayer to Shiva was answered and her husband saw Lord Shiva.

And the couple renovated the Shiva Temple.

Read on.

BAIJNATH MAHADEV MANDIR, AGAR
  • This Mandir is located on the bank of the Banganga river.
  • The construction of this Mandir was started 1528 and completed in 1536.
  • Height of this Mandir is about 50 feet from ground level with 4 feet High kalash.
  • There is 17 feet deep kund(well) on the back side of the Mandir.

History:-

The British ruled India for hundreds of years, and built many churches and cathedrals. But in the 1880s, a Shiva temple in Agar Ma lwa, Madhya Pradesh, was rebuilt by Lt. Col. Martin — the only temple ever made by an Englishman in India.

Col. Martin was in the Afghan wars. He used to regularly write to his wife, informing her of conditions there. It was a long war, and gradually the colonel’s letters stopped. Mrs. Martin, who then lived in the cantonment of Agar Malwa, was besides herself with grief, fearing the worst.

She would spend time riding for hours to calm herself. One day she rode her horse, past the temple of Baijnath Mahadev. It was in a decrepit state. It was the time of arti, and the sound of conches and the chanting of mantras compelled her to stop. She went inside to see the worship of Lord Shiva taking place. The priests saw the grief on her face and asked her what was wrong. Mrs. Martin narrated her sad story. The Brahmins told her that Lord Shiva listens to sincere prayers of all devotees and saves them from difficult situations. She was advised by one of the priests to start chanting the mantra: “Om Namah Shivaya” for 11 days. The Englishwoman prayed to Lord Shiva for the colonel’s safe return, promising she would rebuild the temple if he came home safe from the war. On the 10th day, a messenger arrived from Afghanistan with a letter from her husband. It read, “I was regularly sending you letters from the battlefield but then suddenly the Pathans surrounded us. I thought there was no way of escape. Suddenly I saw an Indian yogi with long hair, wearing a tiger skin carrying a trident. He had an awe-inspiring personality and he started wielding his weapon against the Afghans who ran away from the field in fright. With his grace what was certain death our bad times turned into victory. Then the great yogi told me that I should not worry and that he had come to rescue me because he was very pleased with my wife’s prayers.”

Tears of joy and gratitude welled up in Mrs. Martin’s eyes as she read the letter. Her heart was overwhelmed. She fell at the feet of Lord Shiva’s image and sobbed. After a few weeks Lt. Col. Martin returned and his wife told him her story. The couple became devotees of Lord Shiva. In 1883, they donated Rs 15,000 to renovate the temple. This information is engraved on a slab kept in the Baijnath Mahadev Temple.

The Martins sailed for England with the firm resolution that they would make a Shiva temple at their home and pray to him till the end of life. And they did.

How to Reach:-

01 By Air 109 km away Indore Airport (IDR)Indore, Madhya Pradesh
149 km away Bhopal Airport (BHO)Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh
02 By Rail 50 km away Shajapur (SFY)Shajapur, Madhya Pradesh
50 km away Tarana Road (TAN)Tarana , Madhya Pradesh
65 km away Ujjain (UJN)Ujjain, Madhya Pradesh

Nearest:-

Nearest Name Distance ( in Kms)
Airport INDORE 110
Railway Station SHAJAPUR 50
Railway Station UJJAIN 65
Bus Stand AGAR 00

 Reference and citation.

http://www.agarmalwa.mp.gov.in/baijnath-mandir/

Nineth Century Chola Temple Bethuru Davangere Karnataka

Now I find there is a Temple for Shiva in Bethuru, four kilometres from Davangere, Karnataka, on the way to Jagalur.

The temple is reported to have been built in the Eighth Century AD.


As one reads Indian history one is amazed at the antiquity of India and its rich culture.

The problem is that many are not aware of these facts thanks to Invaders and the manipulated History of India by them, who never seem to date anything about India before Christ and the self-styled left historians(?) of India, who have no time to check Indian sources and archaeological sites, but would accept a history of India by James Stuart Mill was by Rajaraja Chola. \nNow I find there is a Temple for Shiva in Bethuru, four kilometres from Davangere, Karnataka, on the way to Jagalur. \nThe temple is reported to have been built in the Eighth Century AD. from England, without visiting India!

I have listed the Chola temples in Bangalore with the earliest being dated at 1035 AD.

It was by Rajaraja Chola.

Now I find there is a Temple for Shiva in Bethuru, four kilometres from Davangere, Karnataka, on the way to Jagalur.

The temple is reported to have been built in the Eighth Century AD.

However on checking up, it transpires that Vijayalaya Chola built this.

Vijayalaya Chola was a king of South India Thanjavur( 850 870 CE) and founded the imperial Chola Empire.[1] He ruled over the region to the north of the river Kaveri.'(Wikipedia)

Not surprising.

This temple was built by the Cholas between the 8th and 9th centuries, post the weakening of the Badami Chalukyas and before the rise of Rashtrakutas. Later in the 11th century, this temple under went a few additions under the Kalyana Chalukyas. Many hero-stones found here which are now kept near the temple belong to the Kalyana Chalukyas. The most pleasing sight here is that of a beautiful carving on the ceiling panel of ‘Gajasura Samara/ Gajasurasamhara’ (depiction of Lord Shiva slaying the elephant demon Gajasura) in the central portion, surrounded by the Ashtadikapalas. The temple is dedicated to Lord Shiva in the form of a Linga, with murtis of goddesses Saraswathi and Sapthamatrikas and Lord Subramanya kept in the Navaranga of the temple. The Shikara of the temple is a perfect example of early Cholan architecture. This temple definitely needs and deserves more care and maintenance in order to be preserved for future generations.

Source. http://teamgsquare.blogspot.in/2017/11/a-chola-temple-in-heartland-of.html?m=1

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