Sky Maps Star Position During Rig Veda Rama Krishna Birth

Indian Puranas, History and The Epics are not fairy tales.

They are facts.

I have been verifying statements events mentioned in these texts with the help of Astronomy, etymology of word used,archeological evidence,Anthropology,Geology and tools like Carbon Dating, Atomic verification,Infra red evaluation.

I have published posts on many events narrated in the Indian Texts.

Now I am posting information on the appearance of the sky during,

The Rig Vedic Period,

Rama’s Birth,

Krishna’s Birth.

These maps have been arrived at running the references found in these instances through a Software designed to arrive at star positions and period..

Rig Vedic Period Sky Map.

There are 53 references in Rigveda as prayers offered to Aswinis at dawn. The description clearly points to the observation of the pair of stars in the Aries constellation (referred to as Aashvin or Asvini) just before sunrise as a ritual to mark the year beginning. Using Planetarium software, we find that the Winter Solstice occurred on 19 December, 7000 BC at 0735 hrs as shown in Figure 1. This is the earliest reference to Vedic calendar with year beginning at Winter Solstice, found in Rigveda (5-77-1/2; 1-46-14; 7-69-3/2). Heliacal rising of Ashwini Nakshatra (Aries) can be seen to occur on 5th January, 7000 BC, marking the year beginning (Fig. 1).

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Skymap during Ri Vedic Period.Fig. 1

Pre Dawn Sky during Rig Vedic Times.

A thousand years later, Winter Solstice no longer occurred near Aries (Asvini) due to precession. As a result, Ashwinis were no longer rising heliacally as before. They were still below the horizon at sunrise around Winter Solstice time. The Winter Solstice had moved to Revati by 6000 BC. Thus the precession of Equinoxes and Solistices was being observed by Rigvedic Scholars.

The Sky of 19th December, 6000 BC at sunrise on the Winter Solstice day shows that Ashvini gave way to bright star Chitra (α Vir) on opposite side (Western horizon). A full Moon in Chitra Nakshatra provided a new time marker in the sky and heralded the lunar month naming system-Chaitra, Vaisakha etc. (Rigveda: 5-74-1,2 and Tait Samh. 7-4-8). See Fig. 2 –

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Fig.2 .The Sky of 19th December, 6000 BC at sunrise on the Winter Solstice day shows that Ashvini gave way to bright star Chitra (α Vir) on opposite side (Western horizon). A full Moon in Chitra Nakshatra provided a new time marker in the sky and heralded the lunar month naming system-Chaitra, Vaisakha etc. (Rigveda: 5-74-1,2 and Tait Samh. 7-4-8).

Please check my post on Agstya star, Canopus Validates Sanatana Dharma.

Rama’s Birth, Sky Map.

Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa(9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra).At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9.

1. Sun in Aries
2. Saturn in Libra
3. Jupiter in Cancer
4. Venus in Pisces
5. Mars in Capricorn
6. Lunar month of Chaitra
7. 9th day after New Moon
(Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh)
8. Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra
(Pollux star in Gemini constellation)
9. Cancer as Lagna
(Cancer constellation rising in the east)
10. Jupiter above the horizon
The observations on the left, when entered into Planetarium software gives us the above Sky Chart, which in turns gives forth the below mentioned date.

Sri Rama Navami – 10th January 5114 BCE – Birth Day of Rama
Observation at 12.30 p.m.

Skymap During Krishna’s Birth.

Lord Krishna was born around midnight. That night was the eight phase of the moon known as Ashtami Tithi. The moon was near Vrshabha, the bull, i.e the Taurus constellation that houses the star Rohini. The star Rohini is known as Aldeberan in modern astronomy. The month was Shravana, one of the 12 months in the Indian calendar.

Shravana vada ashtami, Rohini Nakshtra, uditam Lagnam

( Srimad Bhagavatham, Skanda 10, Chapter 3.)

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Sky During Krishna’s Birth.

Date of Krishna’s Birth By Gregorain Calendar.

27th July, 3112 BCE .

Couple of Points.

1.Astronomical events repeat themselves at regular intervals.hence fixing one date is difficult.

We are taking the last event for calculation.

As time is Eternal and Cyclic, the events repeat themselves.

Please read my posts on Time Non Linear for more information.

You may check my posts under Astrophysics on Astrodating and dating of Events.

Citations and Sources.

Krihsna’s Birth , Skymap.Image courtesy. Sri. Narahari Achar, Memphis Univesrsity US.





Which Is Older Kannada Or Tamil

When one tries to trace the real history of India, one has to tread carefully and doubly careful in the use of terms about the various ancient Kingdoms and languages of India.

Unlike the other countries of the world our history goes back to Millions of years.

Sathavahanas Dynasty.jpg Sathavahana Dynasty LLocation. Image credit. “SatavahanaMap”. Licensed under Public Domain via Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SatavahanaMap.jpg#/media/File:SatavahanaMap.jpg

While unravelling them,based on Archeology, references in the Indian Epics,Puranas and Indian literature, one finds it nearly impossible to determine which preced the other, say for instance Tami or Kannada.

I have, in my article, Karnataka 2 Million years Old Rama’s Brother in law in Karnataka, I had inadvertently slipped a word that,

‘before the advent of the Sathavahanas, Karnataka was ruled by North Indian Kings and Tamil Kings”

I received a comment,, which I am reproducing below.

“Well Mr. Ramanan, with due regards to your article, there is no history to suggest that Karnataka was ruled by Tamil rulers, before Satavahanas. Although the two languages owe a lot to Brahmi script and according to latest findings, Kannada speaking population was widely spread in south, central, and deccan India. Professor Iravatham mahadevan’s recent findings show that Tamil borrowed from old Kannada and not the other way round.
The impact of kingdoms of Karnataka origin have been felt over other parts of India also. The Chindaka Nagas of central India, Gangas of Kalinga (Odisha),[1] Rashtrakutas of Manyakheta,[2] Chalukyas of Vengi,[3] Yadava Dynasty of Devagiri were all of Kannada origin[4] who later took to encouraging local languages. The Senas of Bengal, the Solankis of Gujarat etc.’

In such a situation, I should have simple left saying nothing at all.

For the atmosphere in India has been so vitiated on the basis of langauge and territories that even a slight mention, raises one’s hackles.

The Divide and Rule Policy started by the British about 300 years ago still lingers , currently being fueled by the politicians who have no idea of our Past History and our traditions.

Having written about the early histories of Tamil in detail and a couple of Posts on the antiquity of Kannada,I would like to tread carefully, though evidence is available on these subjects.

When I take up the ancient history of the other areas, bengal, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Central India, there might me surprises in store.

I will be refrained in my choice of description as my site might be used to wrangle over which langauge or Kings were  more ancient.

The purpose of my Blog is to bring out the history and achievements of Sanatana Dharma, which has been distorted and misinformation had been spread about it.

By writing on the subjects I have mentioned here, I might be sidetracked.

One thing is certain.

We have a hoary past with Sanskrit and Sanatana Dharma as the Pillars.

Other languages like Tamil, Kannada have a hand in it, not to forget Telugu,the Godavari Valley has a rich ,ancient History.

While much evidence has been found on Tamil, about its antiquity relatively it is less in the other languages.

Another point is that the Tamil Kingdom was located in Lemuria.

They seem to have developed a culture on their own, they were also followers of Sanatana Dharma.

History of Karanataka and Tamil are gleaned only from respective literaray works of these languages.

For Karnataka, the past before Chandra Gupta Maurya is hazy, while Tamil has literary references in the form of Sangam literature.

Karnataka was not called as such, thanks to linguistic division of states, and it was under the Mauryan Empire.

And Chanra Gupra Mauraya breathed his last near Sravanabelagola in 230 BC.

However after the death of Chandra Gupta, Karnataka resisted the Mauryan domination.

The Tamils were allies of Chandra Gupta .

The Sathavahanas , the first recorded Dynasty,rose after Chandra Gupta.

Interesting point is that the Sathavahanas were ruling from Amravathi, , AP, now Capital of Andhra!

‘The Sātavāhana Empire was an Indian dynasty based from Dharanikota and Amaravati in Andhra Pradesh as well as Junnar(Pune) and Prathisthan (Paithan) in Maharashtra.The territory of the empire covered much of India from 230 BCE onward. Although there is some controversy about when the dynasty came to an end, the most liberal estimates suggest that it lasted about 450 years, until around 220 CE. The Satavahanas are credited for establishing peace in the country, resisting the onslaught of foreigners after the decline of the Mauryan Empire.’

The Sātavāhanas were vassals to the Mauryan dynasty until the decline of the latter. They are known for their patronage ofHinduism. The Sātavāhanas were early issuers of Indian state coinage struck with images of their rulers. They formed a cultural bridge and played a vital role in trade and the transfer of ideas and culture to and from the Indo-Gangetic Plain to the southern tip of India.

They had to compete with the Shungas and then the Kanvas of Magadha to establish their rule. Later, they played a crucial role to protect a huge part of India against foreign invaders like the Sakas, Yavanas and Pahlavas. In particular their struggles with theWestern Kshatrapas went on for a long time. The great rulers of the Satavahana Dynasty Gautamiputra Satakarni and Sri Yajna Sātakarni were able to defeat the foreign invaders like the Western Kshatrapas and stop their expansion. In the 3rd century CE the empire was split into smaller states. According to ancient Sangam literature the Satavahana rulers were allied with the Tamilrulers of the Chera dynasty, Chola dynasty and Pandyan Dynasty to defeat the foreign invaders like the Scythians…

‘The name Karnataka is derived from “Karunadu” which means Loftyland (High plateau), derived from the community’s location on the Deccan Plain. The name can also mean “Land of black soil” (Kari – Black; Nadu – Area or Region) in Kannada. The history of Karnataka goes back to epics “Ramayana” and “Mahabharatha”. The capital of “vaali” and “Sugriva” of the epic, Ramayana, is said to be Hampi. Karnataka finds its mention in Mahabharatha in the form of “Karnata Desha”. In olden times the region was also called “Kuntala Rajya”.[1] Karnataka was also part of the Dakshinapatha (southern region) which finds its mention in many Indian epics. Vatapi, associated with sage Agastya is obviously Badami in Bijapur district.[2] Karnataka is situated on the western edge of theDeccan plateau and has for its neighbours Maharashtra and Goa on the north, Andhra Pradesh on east, Tamil Nadu and Kerala on the south. On the west it opens out on the Arabian sea.’

In the case of Tamils, Tamil Kings were referred to during the Damayanthi Swayamvara, Sita and Draupadi Swayamvara apart from the fact that Lord Krishna married  Pandyan Princess, had a daughter Pandiah, Parashuarama, Arjuna and Sahadeva had been visiting Tamil areas.

Lord Krishna was an attendee to the Tamil Sangam.

Please refer my post on these subjects.

‘The Pandyas were one of the three ancient Tamil dynasties (Chola and Chera being the other two) who ruled the Tamil country from pre-historic times until the end of the 15th century. They ruled initially from Korkai, a sea port on the southernmost tip of the Indian peninsula, and in later times moved to Madurai. Pandyas are mentioned inSangam Literature (c. 100 – 200 CE) as well as by Greek and Roman sources during this period.

Archeological finds.

A Million year old site belonging to advanced Tamil Civilization has been found in Chennai.

We also have a ver ancient site belonging to Prehistoric times in Karnataka.

And we have the Tamil Brahmi script found in Harappa. and Indus Valley.


‘Kaar Nadu means…Kaar, in Tamil, means regions rich with rainfall collecting mountains and associated regions and Nadu means country…Tamil word is used to refer a region with a particular geographic location…I have asked to my Kannada friends to find the meaning in Kannada language – they have few explanations which are vague for example, some Kannada language speakers think Kar (black) coloured soil region is referred as Kaarnataka – if that is true Karnataka should be less than 20% of the land it has now, because only 15% of the region has black soil in the pesent day state of Karnataka. In ancient Tamil kingdoms the land and the people were classified based on Geography that relate to their specific rich lifestyle and occupation. There are several ancient Tamil literature referring to Tulu naadu, kodagu nadu and kaaarnadu.
The discovery of a Neolithic stone celt, a hand-held axe, with the Indus script on it at Sembian-Kandiyur in Tamil Nadu is, according to Iravatham Mahadevan, “a major discovery because for the first time a text in the Indus script has been found in the State on a datable artefact, which is a polished neolithic celt.” He added: “This confirms that the Neolithic people of Tamil Nadu shared the same language family of the Harappan group, which can only be Dravidian. The discovery provides the first evidence that the Neolithic people of the Tamil country spoke a Dravidian language.” Mr. Mahadevan, an eminent expert on the subject, estimated the date of the artefact with the Indus script between 2000 B.C. and 1500 B.C’

  • A broken storage jar with inscriptions in Tamil Brahmi script in Quseir-al-Qadim, (Leukos Limen) Egypt, 1st century BCE. Two earlier Tamil Brahmi inscription discoveries at the same site, 1st century CE.]The inscriped text is “பானை ஒறி” (paanai oRi) which means ‘pot suspended in a rope net’.
  • An inscribed amphora fragment in Tamil at the ancient PtolemicRoman settlement of Berenice Troglodytica, Egypt, 1st century BCE- 1st century CE.
  • Tamil-Brahmi inscription on pottery found in Phu Khao Thong,Thailand, 2nd century CE. Touchstone (uraikal) engraved in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script at Khuan Luk Pat, 3rd-4th century CE.
  • Potsherds with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions found in Poonagari, Jaffna, 2nd century BCE.
  • Black and red ware potsherd with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions in Ucchapanai, Kandarodai, Jaffna, 3rd century BCE.
  • Tamil Brahmi inscriptions on a pot rim at Pattanam, central Kerala, 2nd century CE.
  • Four Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions, 3rd century CE, found on Edakal cave, Ambukuthi hill, Kerala. One contained the word ‘Chera’ (‘kadummipudha chera’), the earliest inscriptional evidence of the dynasty Chera.
  • Potsherd with Tamil-Brahmi script found in Oman. The script reads “nantai kiran” and it can be dated to the 1st century CE.
  • A fragment of black and red ware flat dish inscribed in Tamil in theTamil Brahmi script excavated at the earliest layer in southern eastern town of Tissamaharama in Sri Lanka. It is dated to approximately 200 BC by German scholars who undertook the excavation.
  • Tamil Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Kodumanal, Chennimalai near Erode
  • Tamil-Brahmi script dating to 500 BC found at Porunthal site is located 12 km South West of Palani
  • Tamil-Brahmi script found on Tirupparankundram hill, Madurai it read as “Muu-na-ka-ra” and “Muu-ca-ka-ti, 1st century BCE.
  • Fifth ‘hero’ stone found with Tamil Brahmi inscriptions at Porpanakkottai
  • Tamil-Brahmi script dating back to the 3rd century BCE near Thenur, Madurai. Script is written in gold bar.
  • Tamil-Brahmi script dated to the 3rd century AD found preserved in laterite in Karadukka in Kasaragod district, Kerala

Which is Old, Kannada or Tamil

Pre-old Kannada (or Purava HaleGannada) was the language of Banavasi in the early Common Era, theSatavahana and Kadamba periods and hence has a history of over 2000 years.The Ashoka rock edict found at Brahmagiri (dated to 230 BC) has been suggested to contain words in identifiable Kannada.

A possibly more definite reference to Kannada is found in the ‘Charition mime’ of the 1st or 2nd century AD. The farce, written by an unknown author was discovered in the early 20th century at Oxyrynchus in Egypt. The play is concerned with a Greek lady named Charition who has been stranded on the coast of a country bordering the Indian Ocean. The king of this region, and his countrymen, sometimes use their own language, and the sentences they spoke include Koncha madhu patrakke haki (lit having poured a little wine into the cup separately) and paanam beretti katti madhuvam ber ettuvenu (lit having taken up the cup separately and having covered it, I shall take wine separately). The language employed in the papyrus indicates that the play is set in one of the numerous small ports on the western coast of India, between Karwar andMangalore’

  • 150,000-100,000 BCE – Evidence for presence of Hominins with Acheulean technology in north Tamil Nadu.
  • c. 30,000 BCE-Paleolithic industries in north Tamil Nadu
  • c. 80003000 BCE-Pre-pottery microlithic industries
  • c. 30001000 BCE-Neolithic and fine microlithic industries

Pre-Sangam period

  • c. 1000300 BCE-Megalithic age
  • c. 600 BCE-Tamil-Brahmi prevalent as the Tamil script
  • c. 300 BCE- Greek ethnographer Megasthenes visits Pandyan capitol Madurai.,
  • c. 250 BCE-Asoka’s inscription recording the four kingdoms (Chera, Cholas, Pandya and Satyaputra) of the ancient Tamil country
  • c. 200 BCE-Elara, a Tamil prince and contemporary of Dutte Gamini, rules Lanka

Sangam age

  • c. 200 BCE-200 CE-Sangam age during which books of Sangam Literature are created
  • c. 150 BCE-Kharavela of Kalinga records his conquest of a federation of Tamil kings in his Hathigumpha inscription [10]
  • c. 13– Greek historian Nicolaus of Damascus met an ambassador sent by Pandyan King to Caesar Augustus, Strabo XV.1-73.
  • c. 1-100 – The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea gives a detailed description of early Chera and Pandya kingdom and mentions Tamil country as ‘Damirica’
  • c. 77 and 140 Greco-Roman writers Pliny the Elder and Ptolemy mention Madurai ruled by Pandyan.
  • Considering he vast stretches of time involved, it is difficult to determine which influenced the other, Tamil or Kannada,despite fanatics claiming one way or the other.

In my opinion,as I said to Bharathitheertha Swami of Sringeri Peeta, our Father Tongue is Sanskrit mother tongue based of geographical location and it is best we enjoy these languages and follow Sanatana Dharma.

Squabbles are for the Immature.

I am yet to study Telugu and Godavari Valley.

I am sure more surprises will be in store.








Rama Used Atom Bomb Against Atlantis Mohenjo Daro

Mohenjo-daro reveals  the exposure to Atomic Radiation, possibly caused by an Atomic blast.

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Rama’s Empire.

The Brahmastra mentioned in Indian Epics and Puranas is capable of this devastating effect.

To my knowledge Valmiki does not seem to refer to the  extensive use of Brahmastra in the Valmiki Ramayana.

The instance  was when Indrajit used it against Hanuman and as Hanuman prayed Brahma( and he had a oon from Brahma as well) it did stun him and he was not killed nor the effects to the environment were devastating..

‘◾Vishvamitra used it against Vasishta, but the Brahmastra was swallowed by Brahmadanda, Lord Brahma’s countermeasure against the Brahmastra.
◾In the Ramayana a Brahmastra is used by Shri Rama several times: once against Jayanta (Indra’s son) when he hurt Sita, against Mareecha in their last encounter, against the Ocean when he did not answer his prayer to allow his army and himself to cross over to Lanka and finally in the last battle with Ravana.
◾It is also mentioned in the Vedas that a Brahmastra was aimed by Shri Rama to carve a path out of the sea so that the army of apes could march towards Lanka, however at that moment, Varuna appeared and told Lord Rama about the technical flaws of using the weapon and hence it was later aimed towards Dhrumatulya by Lord Rama, which fell at the place of modern day Rajasthan causing it to become a desert. Also Indrajit aimed a Bhramastra at Lord Lakshman on the final battle between him and Lord Lakshman, however the deadly weapon returned because Lakshman himself was the avatar of Trinity.(How many times Brahmastra was used)

Though Brahmastra  was not used other than these instances, there seems to have been evidence of Atomic blast in India, in Mohenjo Daro.

Moheno Daro Atomic Blast. gif Moheno Daro Blast Victims. imge creditshabharanjagupta,wordpress.com

The Brahmastra was not used in the area mentioned above in the Ramayana, though this is the place where Kara and Dushana came from.

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Moheno Daro atomic Blast. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon. The cities were wiped out entirely. Image subhadraranjangupta.wordpress.com

They came to Dandakaranya and Rama defeated them.

So the Mohenjo- Daro area was not a victim of Atomic Bomb.

Nor was it used in the Mahabharata Times.

The place in question was called Angsa Desa, of which Karna was the King(Karna was anointed as the King of Anga)

Given the fact that there had been atomic radiation in Mohenj- Daro, how can we account for it since Rama did not seem to have used it, nor any one in the Mahabharata in the area?

There seems to me one logical answer to this.

Lord Rama had conquered the whole of world, I had published the Map of Rama Empire.

If Rama had annexed these area he had to have won over them.

If so, whom did he defeat?

I checked world History, Legends,and Folklore.

I had my link in Atlantis.

I published an article on Rama’s War with Atlantis

and another one,

Rama Atlantis War Kavatam periplus Port Window of Lemuria

As explained in these articles, there seems to have been Four major civilizations then.

Rama’s Empire,

Atlantis Empire,

Uighur Empire and

Lemurian Empire.

Of these Uighur was not very advanced and Lemuria which had been on the wane was trying to recoup.

They were suppressed by the Atlantis people.

In the Atlantis, Osiris’ son Horus entered into an alliance with Rama to defeat Seth who was trying to become independent in the Sumerian valley.

King Atlas (King Of Atlantis) and Prince Osiris (heir to the throne) desired to create secondary domains where they could re-establish the Lemurian Empire . This intention was thwarted by the actions of Osiris’ younger brother, the Emperor Seth. As present ruler of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire (that covered all of Africa), Seth decided that with the fall of Atlantis his Empire (in league with the rebel Sons of Belial) was to be its last stronghold. He made it his goal to re-establish the Atlantean Empire with himself as its all-powerful, ‘divine right’ emperor (of the world).

‘conflicting objectives resulted in deadly warfare between Osiris and his brother Seth. Leading Osiris’s Egyptian armies was Osiris’ eldest son Horus. After Osiris’ unfortunate ‘death’, Horus succeeded his father as king of the Libyan/Egyptian Empire. Intuitively, Horus knew what would happen when they landed in Libya. He completely distrusted his uncle. Horus persistently warned his father about Seth’s stubbornness and treachery. Osiris, believing in the goodness of the human heart, initially ignored his son’s advice. Subsequently, Osiris landed in Libya and after Seth’s abdication became Emperor’

After the demise of Osiris, his son Horus entered into a pact with Rama Empire(Emperor Zata’ar’s eldest son, Prince Rama.) to defeat Seth, the usurper.’

The Atlantis army met with Rama’s Army in Rishi City, now in Pakistam.

Now read this.

Vallmiki ends the Ramayana with Rama’s Coronation, Pattabhisheka and therfore we have no information on Ram’s conquest of the world, after his victory over Ravana.

In this instance, there are two observations by me.

Did Rama use Brahmastra?

In which case the following version does not really support the Atom Bomb theory as Rama seems to have stopped the advancing army by making the army generals drop dead.

Or was the Astra differnt?

Or did Rama use his astra as mentioned here(Yogic Posture), after the Atlantis people had used the Brahmastra?

The latter explanation seems to tally with the state of Mohenjo Daro Radiation.

I am searching for more information.

Atlantis Drops A-Bomb on India

The Lemurian Fellowship (an esoteric group formed in the 1930’s) lessons state:
During the heyday of Atlantis and Rama, both the Ramayana and the Lemurian Fellowship agree that other advanced civilizations were also in existence. According to the Lemurian Fellowship the Osiris Civilization existed in what is today North Africa and the Mediterranean Basin, and the Uiger Empire ruled over what is today the Gobi Desert. Yet of all of the civilizations, Atlantis and Rama were supposedly the two most developed.

These two cultures had developed advanced technology, which they shared between themselves and the rest of the world. It had been mainly developed in Atlantis and would seem like science fiction to us today, just as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata seem like science fiction. Not only did they have aircraft such as vimanas and valixi (as the Atlantean craft was called), they had weapons such as fireballs that could destroy a whole city…(etc.).

According to the Lemurian Fellowship, as Atlantis and Rama reached the height of civilization, war broke out between them. The Atlanteans, a highly technical and war-like culture were bent on conquering the world. Subjugating the Rama Empire was an important step in their plan.

An interesting episode in the Atlantean history as related by the Lemurian Fellowship involves the Atlanteans sending a well-equipped army to India in order to subjugate the Rama Empire, demanding surrender, tribute and acceptance of Atlantean rulership.

The Priest-King of Rama stated they didn’t believe in war, and asked them to leave in peace.

Arrogantly, the Atlanteans did not believe that the Indians had the power to stop them, certainly not by technical means. At dawn, the Atlantean army began their march on the city.
Sadly, the Priest-King watched the army advance…He raised his arms heavenward and, using a yogi technique, he caused the general and each officer in descending order to drop dead in their ranks, apparently by heart attack. The Atlanteans fled. Of the seige of the Rishi City, not one man from the Rama Empire was lost. (Stranger Than Science, Frank Edwards, 1959).

The Indian Epics, especially the Mahabharata, pick up the thread of the tale from here and go on to tell of the rest of the horrible story; a story of devasation and destruction. Apparently Atlantis, displeased at it’s humiliating defeat, decided that they were no longer interested in subjugating the Rama Empire, and decided instead to annihilate the major cities using weapons so destructive that the Sanskrit scholars could not comprehend what was being described in the Epics until the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan.

These are authentic verses from the Indian Epics:
“Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile
charged with all the power of the Universe,
An incandescent column of smoke and flame,
as bright as ten thousand suns,
rose with all its splendor.

It was an unknow weapon
and iron thudnerbolt,
a gigantic messenger of death,
which reduced to ashes
the entire race of Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

…After a few hours
all foodstuffs were infected…
…to escape from this fire
the soldiers threw themselves in the streams
to wash themselves and their equipment.”
The Mahabharata

“(It was a weapon) so powerful
that it could destroy the earth in an instant –
A great soaring sound in smoke and flames –
And on it sits death..”
The Ramayana

Compiled by David Hatcher Childress (A real-life Indiana Jones)
in conjunction with Sanskrit Scholars

From a 324 page book, which includes the complete
translation of the Vimaanika Shastra text.

“An ancient, heavily populated city in Pakistan was instantly destroyed 2,000 years before Christ by an incredible explosion that could only been caused by an atomic bomb. That’s the mind bogging conclusion of a British researcher, David Davenport, who spent 12 years studying ancient Hindu scripts and evidence at the site where the great city – Mohenjo Daro once stood. What was found at the site of Mohenjo Daro corresponds exactly to Nagasaki, declared Davenport, who published his startling findings in an amazing book, “Atomic Destruction in 2000 B.C.”, Milan, Italy, 1979.

There was an epicenter about 50 yards wide where everything was crystallized, fused or melted, he said. Sixty yards from the center the bricks are melted on one side indicating a blast. the horrible, mysterious event of 4,000 years ago that leveled Mohenjo Daro was recorded in an old Hindu manuscript called the Mahabharata, “White hot smoke that was a thousand times brighter than the sun rose in infinite brilliance and reduced the city to ashes, the account reads. Water boiled…horses and war chariots were burned by the thousands.. . the corpses of the fallen were mutilated by the terrible heat so that they no longer looked like human beings…”. The description concludes, “it was a terrible sight to see … never before have we seen such a ghastly weapon”.

Based on his study of many ancient manuscripts, Davenport believes that the end of Mohenjo Daro was tied to a state of war between the Aryans and the Dravidian. Aryans controlled regions where space aliens were mining minerals and exploiting other natural resources, he believes. Because it was a Dravidian city, the aliens had agreed to destroy Mohenjo Daro on behalf of the Aryans. The aliens needed the friendship of the Aryan kings so that they could continue their prospecting and research, explained Davenport. The texts tell us that 30,000 inhabitants of the city were given seven days to get out – a clear warning that everything was about to be destroyed. Obviously, some people didn’t heed the warning, because 44 human skeletons were found there in 1927, just a few years after the city was discovered.

I shall be writng on the Aliens referred to By Indian Texts with Proof, a series, shortly.

** I had written an article earlier on the atomic blast could have been used in the Mahabharatha, based on some other evidence.

I incline to agree with the view that Rama used the Bomb in Ramayana.

The issue has to be resolved.






Qutub Minar Vikramaditya Dhruva Sthamba

If one were to examine the monuments , which are now attributed to other sources than Sanatana dharma,one would find it to be of Hindu origin.

Qutub Minar.Vikramaditya Vijaya Sthamba.jpg Qutub Minar.Vikramaditya Vijaya Sthamba.

Humayun’s Tomb has Lord Vishnu’s footprint.

Tajmahal is Shiva temple.

Ajmer Darga Sharief is a Vishnu temple.

Please read my posts on this.

One more to this list.

The Qutub minar at Delhi.

Dhruva Sthamba of vikramaditya.jpg Dhruva Sthamba , Mehruli.

It is king Vikramaditya’s Vijaya Sthamba,whose empire included Arabia.

Qutub Minar.jpg Qutub Minar.


‘The complex is supposed to be built by the Greatest of Hindu emperors there was MaharajaDhiraj Vikramaditya of Ujjaini , brother of Bharathiri the Kind and Philosopher and originator of Bharathari neeti shataka . The tower is known to have been erected to celebrate the victory of the Great Emperor Vikramaditya , over the lands now called as Arab lands …

Sanatna dharma was prevalent in Arabia even before the advent of Muhammad.

Muhammad’s uncle had written a verse in praise of Shiva.

Here it is.

The Shiva Sloka

Kafavomal fikra min ulumin Tab asayru
Kaluwan amataul Hawa was Tajakhru
We Tajakhayroba udan Kalalwade-E Liboawa
Walukayanay jatally, hay Yauma Tab asayru
Wa Abalolha ajabu armeeman MAHADEVA
Manojail ilamuddin minhum wa sayattaru
Wa Sahabi Kay-yam feema-Kamil MINDAY Yauman
Wa Yakulum no latabahan foeennak Tawjjaru
Massayaray akhalakan hasanan Kullahum
Najumum aja- at Summa gabul HINDU



The man who may spend his life in sin
and irreligion or waste it in lechery and wrath
If at least he relent and return to
righteousness can he be saved?
If but once he worship Mahadeva with a pure
heart, he will attain the ultimate in spirituality.
Oh Lord Shiva exchange my entire life for but
a day’s sojourn in India where one attains salvation.
But one pilgrimage there secures for one all
merit and company of the truly great.’

Following is a poem in praise of Vikramaditya by  Jirrham Bintoi who lived 165 years before the prophet Muhammed.  (King Vikramaditya  lived 500 years before Bintoi).

“Itrasshaphai Santul
Bikramatul phehalameen Karimun
Bihillahaya Samiminela
Motakabbenaran Bihillaha
Yubee qaid min howa
Yaphakharu phajgal asari
nahans Osirim Bayjayholeen
Yaha sabdunya Kanateph natephi
bijihalin Atadari Bilala masaurateen
phakef Tasabahu. Kaunni eja majakaralhada
walhada Achimiman, burukan, Kad, Toluho
watastaru Bihillaha yakajibainana baleykulle amarena
Phaheya jaunabil amaray Bikramatoon” – (Sair-ul-Okul, Page 315)

“Fortunate are those who were born during King Vikram’s reign, he was a noble generous, dutiful ruler devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time, We Arabs oblivious of divinity were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting & torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for its life in the cruel jaws of a wolf, we Arabs were gripped by ignorance. The whole country was enveloped in a darkness as intense as on a New moon night. But the present dawn & pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favor of that noble king Vikram whose benevolence did not lose sight of us foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred culture amongst us and sent scholars from his own land whose brilliance shone like that of the sun in our country. These scholars & preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made aware of the presence of god, introduced to his secret knowledge & put on the road to truth, had come to our country to initiate us in that culture & impart education.”..

the minar was started by Prithviraj or his uncle Vigraharaja who won Delhi from the Tomar Rajputs. However, it is assumed by secularist and anti hindu historians that Qutubuddib and Iltutmish finished it though the pictures will clearly show that the tower may have been commenced by Prithviraj or Vigraharaja.

Anang Pal,the Tomar Rajput King , established Delhi and Lal Kot,which is the area of Kutub Minar and extends up to Lal Quila ,or the demarcation line of old Delhi.In olden days fortresses used to be built at the entrance of a state and the present delineation of Delhi borders extended from South area of Qutub Minar to Red Quila in North Delhi.

The Tomars were descendents of the great Vikramaditya ,who had initially established the Iron Pillar at Vishnupadagiri (meaning “hill with footprint of Vishnu”). This place has been identified as modern Udayagiri, situated in the close vicinity of Besnagar, Vidisha and Sanchi. These towns are located about 50 kilometres east of Bhopal, in central India. There are several aspects to the original erection site of the pillar at Udayagiri. It must be worth noting that Vishnupadagiri is located on the Tropic of Cancer and, therefore, was a centre of astronomical studies during the Gupta period.







Ravana Reserve Army Atlantis Rama Atlantis War

Valmiki provides a lot of Geographical information in the Ramayana.

Most of them are found when he describes the Aranya vasa of Lord Rama., his search for Sita, his travel to Lanka, Rama’s return from Lanka by Pushpaka Vimana and Sugriva’s directions to his army about the possible places where Ravana could have taken Sita.

Of interest is the description by Sugriva about the Nazca Lies of Peru ad Russia, though one can find references to other countries as well.

Location of Atlantis.jpg Location of Atlantis.

I have written articles on California being the Kapila Aranya, Mount.Ashes ,USA is the place where Sagara’s(Rama’s ancestor) sons were turned into ashes.

I have referred to the Quadrilateral Temple of Shiva in Colorado and a Natural Vishnu Temple in Grand Canyon,US.

I remembered about the Moola Sainya ( Reserve Army of Ravana, which he called up during his battle with Rama.

Lemuria Kumari Kandam.png Lemuria, KumariKandam. “Kumari Kandam map”. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kumari_Kandam_map.png#/media/File:Kumari_Kandam_map.png

‘A grieved Ravana soon collected himself and sent word for his reserve forces all over the globe (moola bala sainya). That was a frightful army that Ravana did not think of using against these ‘puny creatures’ at all. He considered it below his dignity to use such a powerful force against humans and monkeys. It was like killing a fly with a sledgehammer, for him. In fact, Kumbakarna had advised him otherwise. If you have decided to fight against them, then the better strategy would be to collect all our forces together. ‘pandhiyir pandhiyir padagaLai vittu avai sindhudal kaNdu nee irundhu thEmbudal mandhiram andru.’ It is not right to send our army in small lots convenient enough for them to wipe off and to weep over their death. ‘nam vali elaam udan undhudal kadan.’ It is of utmost importance to collect all our forces here and now and go to the field in such vast numbers so that it becomes difficult for them to encounter such a vast army’.(Kamba Ramayaa ,Tamil-http://www.heritagewiki.org/index.php?title=Vibhishana_-_Part_4)

Valmiki also talks about the Moola Sainya in the Yuddha Kada

And the location of Kara and Dushana who were killed by Rama.

And there is this point of Hanuman flying to Lanka,

The Adams Bridge, Rama Sethu is about 30 Kms from Rameswaram, India

But Valmiki says it is about 800 Miles!

And there is evidence that Hanuman traveled at a speed of 660Kms/hour!

I shall be writing on this shortly.

I recalled about Lemuria and Atlantis.

Lemuria is the Lost continent of the Tamils.

And the US is the Patala Loka.

Please read my posts on this and Atlantis.

Plato’s description of Atlantis reminds me of the descriptions of the Patala Loka, inhabited by the Rakshasas.

The presence of Hanuman ad his son Makaratwaja in Central America and the reference to Tamil Kings of the south of Vindhyas made me wonder whether there is any connection between Atlantis. Ramayana and Lemuria.


Considering the distance covered by Hanuman in his flight to Lanka,

The Lanka of Ravana could not have been where it is today,( Please red my Post)

Lemuria and Atlantis being different entities and that The Tamils occupied that land,

Atlantis had the Sanatana Dharma presence, including the Rotating city of Tripura, which was destroyed by Shiva,

Shiva migrated towards the west of India, when a great flood struck South India(when Rama’s ancestor Sathyavrata Manu migrated to Ayodhya),

The presence of Shiva in these countries, including the Nazca Lines of Peru and Mecca, Petro Jordan having Shiva Temples,

Rama’s name is found, along with Dasaratha and Bharatha in the Sumerian Kings List,

Shiva worship preceded the Sanatana dharma in the south,

The Rakshasas having bee present in this land, where the Moola Sainya of Ravana was kept,

Ravana having been a Shiva worshiper,

Hanuman and Makaratdwaja is found in Honduras,

The land mass at these times was different than what we find today,

Thiruvannamalai in South India being 3 Billion years old,

There is a room in Romania which is connected to Iraq,Kailsh,

Gobekli Tepe was built by Brahmins.

It stands to reason that The Atlantis people were a part of Sanatana Dharma .

And there is evidence to suggest that there was a great war between Rama and the Atlanteans.

Ravana was in Lemuria, had his Reserve army in Atlantis

There is also a view that ET were involved in this.

‘Some Wedha and Jain manuscripts, among others, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata it contains evidence of historical and technological overview of Rama’s dynasty which is believed to have experienced the golden age of the seven main cities ‘Seven Rishi City’ which is one of Mohenjo Daroo (Northern Pakistan).

From various sources I have learned, can generally be described a wide range of theories and research on the subject of this study provide some interesting material. Include:

– Atlantis and Rama dynasty had experienced the golden era (Golden Age) at the same time (30000-15000 BC).

– Both have mastered nuclear technology.

– Both the aerospace and aeronautics technology has advanced to have enabled aircraft and shaped like a UFO (by some accounts) called Vimana (Rama) and Valakri (Atlantis).

– Residents of Atlantis has an aggressive nature and led by the clergy (priests Enlighten), according to Plato’s text.

– Rama dynasty has seven major cities (Seven Rishi’s City) with the capital city of Ayodhya where one of the results found are Mohenjo-Daroo.

– Competition of the civilization reached its peak with the use of nuclear weapons.

– The experts found that the debris and the remains of human skeletons found at Mohenjo-Daroo containing radioactive residue that can only be produced by large-scale thermonuclear explosion.

– In a seloka of the Mahabharata, narrated by the figure of a weapon of mass destruction is a result similar to the present nuclear weapons.

– Some Seloka Wedha and Jain in the book is explicitly and completely describe the shape of the ‘flying vehicle’ called ‘Vimana’ that its characteristics resemble flying saucers today.

Most of the written evidence it was in India in the form of literary texts, while the physical evidence would be in the western world the Pyramids in Egypt and South America.

In short all the above investigations denounce mankind had advanced in the civilization of Atlantis and Rama. Even long before man ever entered the century 4000SM space and nuclear technology. But the golden age was ended by a devastating nuclear war until the aftermath, people had time to go back to primitive times to the advent of Sumerian civilization around 4000SM or 6000tahun ago.’