Hinduism

Kannadigas From Yadava Tribe Agastya,Kapila.Tamil


The History of Sanatana Dharma is very deep and extensive.To have an idea of what it was one has to know Sanskrit, Hinduism and the Indian Regional languages.

I am handicapped in this respect in that I am conversant only in two languages,Sanskrit and Tamil, though I can speak Kannada.

Amriteswara temple, Karnataka.jpg Amriteswara temple, Karnataka.

If I know the other languages I might be able to get a better idea of the Sanatana Dharma for it was spread throughout the world and embedded deeply in all the regions of India.

Available records speak of Pali, Sanskrit and Tamil as the oldest.

Scholars from the other regional languages may send in their information on this,

One request is that this site is for Sanatana Dharam and not a ground for Linguistic war for that is the shortest cut to destroying Sanatana Dharama.

To me Sanskrit is my Father Tongue and Tamil Mother tongue.

This, I hope, might apply to all of us in various regions of India, the Mother Tongue being the one determined by region in which one is born or picks up from his mother.

Earliest historical evidence to Kanndigas is found in Brahmagiri , Karnataka.

Brahmagiri is an archaeological site located in the Chitradurga district of the state of Karnataka, India. Legend has it that this is the site where age Gautama Maharishi (also spelt Gauthama Maharshi) and his wife Ahalya lived. He was one among seven noted Hindu saints (Saptharshi mandalam). This site was first explored by Benjamin L. Rice in 1891, who discovered rock edicts of Emperor Ashoka here. These rock edicts indicated that the locality was termed as Isila and denoted the southernmost extent of the Mauryan empire.[1][2] The Brahmagiri site is a granite outcrop elevated about 180 m. above the surrounding plains and measures around 500 m east-west and 100 m north-south. It is well known for the large number of megalithic monuments that have been found here.The earliest settlement found here has been dated to at least the 2nd millennium BC

As this date is 2 BC I searched for earlier connections with Sanatana Dharama.

References are found in the Tamil Classics on this and in Legends.

Tamil Purananuru, says the people of Karnataka were from the Yadavas of  Dwaraka.

Now there are references in the Puranas of seven Dwarakas.

This reference about Kannadigas probably refers to the second Dwaraka, when the tribes left for the middle east and elsewhere because of Flood.

One group led by Agastya and Kapila, who compiled Purananuru settled in Karnataka, on the banks of Kaveri River.

Sangam Tamil poets composed over 2000 poems. Purananuru is an encyclopaedia of Tamil culture. It has got less than 400 verses. Purananuru verse 201 was composed by Kapilar two thousand years ago. This is a very important verse in Purananuru. It throws much light on early Indian History. Kapilar talks about 49th generation of Irungovel. Famous Tamil Commentator Nachinarkiniyar , who lived several hundred years ago, gave a very interesting story about this verse.

Nachinarkiniyar said that Agastya brought 12 tribes from Dwaraka ruled by Lord Krishna. Another city in the name of Dwaraka was founded in Karnataka (Mysore) state in the twelfth century. There is an interesting story about how and who founded this city. Hoychalas were the kings who ruled from this city. Hoychala is translated into Tamil asPulikadimal which is found in verse 201.

Chala was a king belonging to Yadu dynasty. While he was hunting in the Western Ghats, he saw a hare heroically fighting with a tiger. This made him to think that this place must have some special importance. When he followed the fighting tiger and hare, an ascetic who was doing penance ordered king Chala to kill the tiger. The ascetic’s order in Sanskrit was “Hatham Hoy Chala”. So from that day on wards the king and his descendants were called Hoychalas. If the verse 201 refers to this anecdote then it must have happened 2000 years ago.

This is reinforced by the Temples dedicated to Hindu Gods by the Hoysalas in Karnataka

More to follow on this.

http://tamilandvedas.com/2012/04/04/karnataka-indus-valley-connection/

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Hinduism

How To Read Study Understand Hinduism


I received a question as to how to read and understand Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma.

The sender of this question is Professional in IT from IIT .

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Vedas.

‘Would that be alright if I begin with the Brahma Sutra Bhashya of Shankaracharya?

It is difficult to understand.

Can you suggest any method’

I thought these some of the questions many are seeking answers for.

Strictly speaking the Vedas have to be studied for Twelve years minimum to have an idea.

Unlike the other Religions, Hinduism is based on Experience and Intuition and it takes time for one to grasp.

So it is difficult to understand the Vedas in the present day unless one decides to spend a lifetime on studying the Vedas, which is not practical now.

Then we have the Ithihasas Puranas Stotras Stuthis and Legends.

Where to begin?

It looks very complex and one is bewildered at the seemingly vast knowledge base and it appears at a first glance each contradict the other.

The one is also confused by the thoughts in Hinduism that the Reality is Not One(Advaita),

Qualified Not Two (Visishtadvaita)

Dualism(Dwaita).

33 Crore Gods mentioned in the Puranas,

You have Trimurthis,

Of the some say Shiva is superior, Others Vishnu and yet others Devi and so many versions.

And Hinduism , in the form of Karma Yoga asks one to forego the results of action.

Bhakthi Yoga says that One has to simply surrender to God and nothing else is needed.

Yet we have the Karmas sanctioned in the Vedas which are to be performed by very one.

We have Raja Yoga, in the form of Yoga where one learns to control the Mind and which says Mind control alone will do, nothing else is required!

Hinduism says that there is Destiny and your Life is prepared and at the same time says that one can raise by one’s effort.

Hinduism says that one should renounce things and be in the world.

Seemingly contradictory.

But they are not.

I have posted a few articles on each of these aspects.

Now to the question of Reading Hinduism.

I recommend the following,

1.Outlines of Indian Philosophy by Professor Hiriyanna. http://amzn.to/1PnBdSz

2. The Collected works of Swami Vivekananda( all the volumes) http://amzn.to/1L6V1Uk

3. The Eighteen Puranas.

These will give one the background

What is required is patience to  form conclusions and answers for the questions that may arise one reads these.

They will be cleared as you go along.

Studying Hinduism.

Now one can read the Pancha Sukthas, Purusha Suktha, Narayana Suktha, Vishnu Suktha, Durga Suktha and Sri Suktha.

And Sri Rudram and Namakam.

Slokas Vishnu Sahasranama and Lalita Sahsranama.

As ou along these lines out shall get links to proceed further.

Hinduism is not text-based but is based on Experience and Divine Guidance.

Once you start in good earnest out shall get all the answers.

To understand Hinduism one has to live as prescribed in the Vedas and engage one self in Sadhana.

This will be facilitated by  studying the Bhasyas of the three Acharyas, Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhwa.

Not to forget the Jewel The Bhagavad Gita!

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Guruvayurappan Temple Built By Pandya King 5000 Years?


Guruvayur is a famous temple of Lord Krishna in Kerala and is called as the Dwaraka of the South.

The temple is referred to as having been a place of worship since 5000 years.

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Sri Guruvayurappan, Guruvayur, Kerala,India

According to the legends, the idol worshipped here is more than 5000 years old. But there are no historical records to establish it. In the 14th century Tamil literature ‘Kokasandesam’, references about a place called Kuruvayur is made. As early as 16th century (50 years after the Narayaneeyam was composed) many references are seen about Kuruvayur. In ancient Dravidic, Kuruvai means sea, hence the village on the coast may be called Kuruvayur.

But according to Prof. K V Krishna Iyer (eminent historian), the Brahmins had begun to come and settle at Kodungalloor during the period of Chandra Gupta Maurya ( 321-297 BC). Trikkunavay in the Guruvayur documents is the same as Thrikkanamathilakam or Mathilakam mentioned in the Dutch and British records. And this place was in between Guruvayur and Kodungalloor. Guruvayur was Trikkunavay’s subordinate shrine since they were destroyed by the Dutch in 1755. That way Guruvayur must have come into existence before 52 AD. The story of Pandyan King building a shrine here may be a reference to the Azhavars , but they are all silent in their writing about Guruvayur.’..

The Temple is constructed B.C 3000(Around 5000 years oldest Temple) According to legends, the deity worshipped here is more than 5000 years old. But there are no historical records to establish it. In the 14th century, “Kokasandesam” (a Tamil literary work), references to a place called Kuruvayur are made. As early as the 16th century (fifty years after Narayaniyam was composed) many references to Kuruvayur are seen. In ancient Dravidian languages, “kuruvai” means “sea”, hence the village on the Malabar Coast may be called Kuruvayur. The earliest temple records date back to the 17th century. The earliest mention of the many important Vishnu temples of Kerala are found in the songs of Alwars,Tamil saints, whose time-line is not exactly fixed. Mamankam was a very famous local event at Tirunavaya, on the bank ofBharatappuzha. The battles between the Calicut under Zamorins and Valluvanad popularised Guruvayur Temple. Due to the prolonged battles, people across the riverbank started preferring Guruvayur. Even the Zamorin of Calicut become a devotee and thus his subjects followed him. The central shrine that see today is said to have been rebuilt in 1638 AD. “Viswabali” was performed later to propitiate all the spirits, good and bad. By the end of the 16th century Guruvayur had become the most popular pilgrimage centre in Kerala.

Considering the evidence I have been able to unearth about Hinduism and its spread throughout the world, its scientific approach and the references made to it by Sanskrit and Tamil literature two of the oldest languages, I am unable to brush aside that Gurauvayur has been a place of worship for 5000 years aside.

It is a fact that the Vedas do not advocate collective, group, community worship and no mention is found in them to the practice of building temples.

However, after the advent of the Agamas, the Temple worship has begun.

The Agamas  are dated behind Lord Krishna and Mahabharata, though there are references to the worship of Mother Goddess in the Mahabharata in small temples.

How these temples could have been built and by whom?

The ancient temple, as far as History goes in found in Saluvar Kuppam ,Pondicherry for Lord Subrahmanya, which is excavated.

Most of the early temples of India have been built by Tamil Kings.

If the Tamil Kings had to build temples they had to be conversant with the happenings in the North of India and should have been influenced by them.

They have been a part of Sanatana Dharma.

The Tamil King Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncherallathan provided food for the armies of the Kauravas and the Pandavas during the epic battle of Mahabharata.

He allotted lands to Brahmins in lieu for them performing the Yagnyas daily.

He also offered Tharpana for those soldiers who died in the war.

Other Tamil Kings followed suit.

There is also evidence that Lord Krishna attended the Tamil Sangam as an Invitee.

He also married a Pandyan Princess , had a daughter through her and allotted Yadavas to serve her as a part of her dowry.

Ravana entered into a peace treaty with a Pandya King.

Rig Veda and Puranas have references to pieces, Elephant Tusks,Gems, and Pearls being imported from Tamil Nadu /Dravida.

Tamil Kings were present during the Swayamwar of Damayanthi, Sita, Draupadi, descriptions of the may be found in the Ramayana ,Mahabharata and the Puranas.

I have some articles on this.

During the Mahabharata Days the interaction between the South and the North were more intense and frequent than what it was during the Ramayana Period.

Lord Krishna attended the Tamil Sangam,Conclave of Poets held at Kavatapuram.

He was a special Invitee.

“Krishna was known to Tamil lands even during his life time. He had been one of the esteemed guests at the 2nd Sangam assemblage that took place in Kavaatam, the then capital of the Pandyans. Kavaatam’s location can be deciphered from Shugreeva’s description of the trail to the South which he described to the vanaras in chapter 4-41-19a. That place was submerged around the time Byt Dwaraka was submerged.”

Krishna married Nappinnai, a Pandyan Princess and had a Daughter Pandyahs, that’s how Megasthanes calls her.

Krishna had his daughter married to a Pandya Prince and settled her near Madurai.

For more Read here.

The chances are that the Temple of Guruvayur having been built by a Tamil King, Krishna having been to the south and it could be a Tamil Pandya King who built the temple as Lord Krishna was the son-in-law of the Pandyas and his daughter was a Pandyan Princess.

Scholars may look into this.

Citation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guruvayur_Temple

http://www.guruvayurdevaswom.nic.in/htemple1.html

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Taxila, Takshashila Built By Bharata Brother Of Rama


Lord Rama’s son ,Lava built Lahore now in Pakistan.

Taxila, called as Takshashila in Sanskrit and Takashila was built by Bharata, brother of Lord Rama , for his son Taksha.

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Taxila, Takshasila, world’s First University.

Legend has it that Takṣaśilā derived its name from Takṣa, who was the son of Bharata, the brother of the Hindu deity Rama. Takṣa’s kingdom was called Takṣa Khanda and its capital that he founded was named Takṣaśilā.

*According to another theory propounded by DD Kosambi, Takṣaśilā is related to Takṣaka, Sanskrit for “carpenter”, and is an alternative name for the Nāgas of ancient India. In the great Hindu epic Mahābhārata, the Kuru heir Parikṣit (grandson of the Arjuna) was enthroned at Takṣaśilā. Traditionally, it is believed that the Mahabharata was first recited at Takṣaśilā by Vaishampayana, student ofVyasa at the behest of the seer Vyasa himself, at the Snake Sacrifice.

* There is no supportive evidence for this.

In “Lalitha Vistara,” we are told of the formation of such institutions for teaching the three R’s and moral stories to the young. Further, a very remarkable achievement of ancient India in the post-Vedic and Buddhist ages was the organisation of higher education in a few of the prominent centres of India. The earliest and the most famous institutions of the kind were those of Benares and Taxila, which were the educational havens for people from all parts of the world, right down at least from the Buddhist age. The one place which acquired a great reputation not only for its mastery over a special branch of knowledge, medicine, but also for its general ideal instruction, perfect discipline and homely training was the University of Taxila…

In the Ramayana, (Vangavasi Edition-Uttarakandam-Chapter XIV) Bharata, Sri Rama’s brother, is said to have built two cities, Takkhasila and Puskalavata, and appointed his sons, Takkha and Puskala, to be their rulers respectively. The cities were described as very prosperous in as much as their citizens were pious and prosperous. There is another reference in the same Uttarakanda of Ramayana that Takkhasila was a centre of learning and that people from different parts of the country resorted to the Institution of Education there to specialise in Law (Vyavahara). The 88th Chapter of Vayupurana refers to Takkhasila, the capital of Takka, a beautiful city.

‘Brihatsamhita’ mentions Takkhasila as a most famous city, implying thereby that it was doubtless a centre of ancient education and culture. Further, in Mahabharata, it is recorded that the King Janamejaya conquered it. It also declares the men Taxila to be matchless and unrivalled in discussions and debates in educational and cultural learning. Lastly, Ksemendra’s ‘Aradanakalpalata’ says that Asoka’s son, Kunala, was sent by Asoka to conquer Takkhasila, which was ruled by Kunjarakarna.

Taxila has been referred to, often, in Pali literature as well, a great centre of learning and as an important University centre in ancient India. According to Dhammapadattahakatha, Pasenadi, King of Kosala, was educated at the University of Taxila. From the Mahavagga, (Vinaya Pitaka), we learn that several princes from various kingdoms, within and without India, went to the University of Taxila for their complete education.

Dhammapadadattahakatha speaks of a student who went to Taxila, all the way from Benares, to study the ‘Silpas’, in the midst of five hundred class-mates. In several places, in the Pali Jatakas, there are references to highly renowned teachers living at Taxila and to the various subjects taught there.
The foreign writers of Greece, Rome and China have left Lind valuable records of accounts of Taxila. Arrian refers it as having been a great and flourishing city in the times Alexander. Strabo comments upon its population. Plutarch dwells upon its fertile soil. Hiuentsang writes of its rich harvests and luxuriant vegetation. There are other foreign Buddhist works which refer to the various arts and sciences, imparted at the University of Taxila, in the Buddhist age.

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Hinduism

Rama Empire Reply To Critics On Map Sanatana Dharma Dates


I published an article on Rama’s Empire, showing the territories held by Rama.

The map was based on the references in the Ramayana of Valmiki,the descriptions of the Geography of Valimiki, the reference to the Kings who attended Sita’s Swayamwara,The descrition valimki provides while the Horse , during the Aswamedha Yaga Rama performed after His return to Ayodhya, the directions provided by Sugreeva to his Vanara ,Monkey army when they were searching for Sita , the details found in Raghu Vamsa of Kalidasa and ancient Tamil Literature.

There have been comments about the content in the post.

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Hanuman Chanting Rama’s Name

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1.The landmass shown in the Map, hows  relatively modern locations like the Suez canal.

My answer is that the reference to the areas won by Rama were cross checked for their modern names , correlated with the descriptions found in Valmiki Ramayan;then the Map was prepared taking the current names for these ancient places.

This has been done to enable the reader to understand the map.

Another point is that the ancient landmass was different from what we see to-day .

Landmass has changed.

There were super continents like Lemuria,Atlantis.

Some evidence of their existence has become available.

Research is on.

Meanwhile evidence unearthed in Arikkamedu,Tamil Nadu/Pondicherry and the epigraphs of the Thirukoilur TamilNadu speak of Kings from Tamil Nadu having links with Sanatana Dharma.

Early Tamil Sangam woks speak of Rama and Krishna and Silappadikaram mentions that the Yadavas were present in Madurai,Tamil Nadu.

Krishna and Arjuna visited The Dravida Desa, South India.

Both of them married Princesses from the south.

While Krishna had a daughter through the Pandyan Princess , got her married to Pandya Prince, Arjuna had a son Babruvahana.

Balarama visited south and worshiped Lord Subrahmanya.

And Lord Krishna attended Tamil Sangam.

Please Check my posts on each these.

All these have been cross verified by archaeology, epigraph,Astronomy.

It would be erroneous to dismiss the mass of evidence because we yet to recover all the artifacts.

Remeber.

River Saraswati has been identified,Dwaraka excavated.

It takes time to unearth by Indian Scholars.

There is no Dhanushkodi in Souh Now.

Only traces remain.

I have visited the place when I was a child.

Can I deny Dhanushkodi now?

Hence the empire of Rama is true, possible and probable, taking into consideration all the facts mentioned above.

2.Rama lived in Treta Yuga.

No doubt about this.

Treta Yuga is thousands of years ago.

The present date of Ramayana around 5000 BC is not accurate for the following reason.

Astronomical dating is done by verifying the Planetary position by taking reference to the Horoscope of Rama, Sita and Ravana apart from the eclipses mentioned in the Ramayana.

The problem is that Astronomical events keep on occurring at regular intervals.

So a planetary position or an eclipse is not unique.

What date do we take?

Now we are taking the latest for reckoning, that’s all.

Here comes the concept of Circular Time.

According to Hinduism Time is not Linear, that is it is not flowing in one direction.

It is circular.

The Purana state  that Agastya moved towards the South twice .

Once when Lord Shiva ordered him to move over to South to stabilize the earth, when the North end came down, South rose because of overcrowding by people who came to witness Shiva’s wedding with Uma.


( These two events have happened at different periods, not atzone instance.
He moved again to South to tame the Vindhya mountain.

Now let us look the calculation of Time .

There are Four Yugas and they repeat themselves.

Brahma, the Creator begins Creation at the beginning of each Yuga which will be dissolved at the end of one Chatur Yuga

Kali Yuga                                4,32000 Years

Dwpara Yuga  4,32,000*2= 8,64,000

Tretha Yuga    4,32,000*3=1296000

Satya Yuga        4,32,000*4=1728000

Total                                         4820000 Years One Chatur Yuga

One Manvantara is 306.72 million Years.

Life in the universe is created and destroyed once every 4.1 to 8.2 billion years, which is one full day (day and night) for Brahma. The lifetime of a Brahma is believed to be 311 trillion and 40 billion years-Hindu Cosmology.

‘Eighty million years ago, India was approximately 6400 km (3968 miles) south of the Eurasian plate. Separating the two was the Tethys Sea. The Indo-Australian tectonic plate – containing the continent of Australia, the Indian subcontinent, and surrounding ocean – was pushed northward by the convection currents generated in the inner mantle. For millions of years, India made its way across the sea toward the Eurasian plate. As India approached Asia, around 40 million years ago, the Tethys Sea began to shrink and its seabed slowly pushed upwards. The Tethys Sea disappeared completely around 20 million years ago and sediments rising from its seabed formed a mountain range. When India and Tibet collided, instead of descending with the plate, the relatively light sedimentary and metamorphic rock that makes up the subcontinent of India pushed against Tibet, forcing it upwards, and created a massive mountain fold. The Himalayas.’

Proof from the position of Agastya Star,Canopus.

Canopus is associated with the sageAgastya, one of the ancient rishis (the others are associated with the stars of the Big Dipper). Agastya, the star, is said to be the ‘cleanser of waters’ and its rising coincides with the calming of the waters of the Indian Ocean. It is considered the son of Pulasthya, son of Brahma.

Canopus is 310 Light Years away from the Earth.

‘Agastya, is the author of 25 hymns (nos 166 to 190) of the first ‘mandala’ of the Rigveda.
2. Canopus, the second brightest star in the night sky, is called Agastya in India.
3. This star is close to the ecliptic south pole, having an ecliptic latitude of –76°.
4. As the celestial poles go round the ecliptic poles due to the phenomenon of precession of the earth’s axis of rotation, this star becomes visible from different latitudes on the globe at different times. If we assume that for a star to be visible at a place its altitude at the meridian passage should be at least 5°, then calculations give the visibility curve for Agastya (Canopus) as follows.
5. Agastya was not visible from any part of India before 10,000 BC.
6. First it became visible at Kanyakumari around that epoch. Thereafter, as it was brought more and more northwards by precession, it became visible at various places in India.
7. It became visible in the east coast (in the present Chennai region) in 8500 BC, and in the present day Hyderabad in 7200 BC, in the Vindhya region in 5200 BC, at Delhi in 3100 BC.
8. At present it is visible from most parts of India for longer or shorter durations. This cycle will repeat after every 25,765 years. It is thus clear that around 5000 BC, the star Agastya was visible from the south of the Vindhyas, but not from the north of it.
9. If sage Agastya was the first to cross the Vindhyas from the north, he would have been the first northerner to see the star. Hence the star has been named after him, just as the Magellanic clouds in the southern sky are named after the navigator Magellan, who first saw them as he sailed southwards.
10. This fixes an epoch of 5000 BC for sage Agastya. This date is based on the assumption that for a star to be visible its meridian altitude has to be at least 5°.
11. If we make 8° meridian altitude as the criterion for visibility, the date of Agastya would be shifted to about 4000 BC. The dates 5000 and 4000 BC should therefore bracket the probable epoch of Agastya crossing the Vindhyan mountains.

Hindu Puranas state that the south Pole came up because of over crowding in the Himalayas because people has rushed in to witness the wedding of Lord Shiva with Parvati and to set the earth’s balance aright Shiva ordered Agastya to go to South and he did so.

Now the tectonic plate movement of the Himalayas confirm this by observing that

” The Indo-Australian tectonic plate – containing the continent of Australia, the Indian subcontinent, and surrounding ocean – was pushed northward by the convection currents generated in the inner mantle. For millions of years, India made its way across the sea toward the Eurasian plate. As India approached Asia, around 40 million years ago, the Tethys Sea began to shrink and its seabed slowly pushed upwards. The Tethys Sea disappeared completely around 20 million years ago and sediments rising from its seabed formed a mountain range. When India and Tibet collided, instead of descending with the plate, the relatively light sedimentary and metamorphic rock that makes up the subcontinent of India pushed against Tibet, forcing it upwards, and created a massive mountain fold.”

Hence Agastya left for the South around 40 Million years ago to balance the earth.

Please read my Post  Canopus Agastya validates Sanatana Dharma.”

Above is an except from My Post

 https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/03/22/shiva-uma-wedding-agastya-to-south-40-million-years-tectonics-proof/

So the Treata Yuga period is validated.

The Astronomical events which we are using to date Ramayana happened in Treta Yuga, as celestial events take place regularly, as well.

The land mass as I have shown is correct for the reasons mentioned in answering critics in point number 1 .

And that Rama lived in Treta Yuga and both the observations are correct.

Kindly read my posts on Agastya Date, Ramayana Date, Mahabharata date,Dating tools and more posts filed under Hinduism.

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