Tamils

Silappadikaaram Of Anklet Unique Tamil Epic


Sanatana Dharma, mistakenly called as Hinduism, has been assigned a date of 5000 BC (Rig Veda Date) by the West.

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Silapathikaaram Tamil Text.

‘At the end of the Sangam epoch (second – third centuries CE), the Tamil country was in political confusion. The older order of the three Tamil dynasties was replaced by the invasion of the Kalabhras. These new kings and others encouraged the religions of Buddhism and Jainism. Ilango Adigal, the author of Silappatikaram, probably lived in this period and was one of the vast number of Jain and Buddhist authors in Tamil poetry”
But the evidence unearthed in Jwalapuram, Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh, India, in Chennai and in Poomphar in Tamil Nadu date the Tamils History from 300 BC to around 75000 years back!
One finds Tamil Brahmi Script in the  Indus Seals.
And Lord Shiva the founder, according to Tamil Literature,the founder of the Tamil language is a Pre Sanatana Dharma Deity was worshiped in the South much before the migration of Vaivastha Manu ,the ancestor of Lord Rama to Ayodhya.
This language Tamil quotes the Vedas and the Vedas , Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Puranas talk of Tamil Kings having been present during the swayamvara of Damayanthi, Lord Rama’s marriage,  Draupadi’s swayamvar,elephant tusks ,pearls and spices being imported from the land of the Tamils!
Hence Sanatana Dharma and Tamil are much older.
They go back to at least 75000 years.

Tamil language is as old as Sanskrit though it is difficult to assign a specific date.
However this is disputed.
Tamil has a hoary past and literature of high quality dating back to these times.
Tamil Literature of ancient times, for convenience of Study has been classified as pre Sangam , Sangam and Post Sangam Period.
Sangam period is the period when Conclave of Poets were held and honored.
There three Sangams.

 

The Tamil Sangams or Cankams were assemblies of Tamil scholars and poets that, according to traditional Tamil accounts, occurred in the remote past. Scholars believe that these assemblies were originally known as kooṭam or gathering. which was also a name forMadurai. Three assemblies are described. The legend has it that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held in the present-day city of Madurai. The word sangam has its mention in the sense of an ‘academy’ in several Tamil literary works like Tevaram, Thiruvilayadal puranam, periyapuranam and Irayanar Ahaporul. Also legend has it that Nammazwar’s Thiruvaimozhi was approved in an assembly of 300 poets.

The Sangam period extended from roughly 350 BC to 300 AD (early chola period before the interregnum), when the earliest extant works of Tamil literature were created (also known as Sangam literature).] However, the name Sangam and the associated legends probably derive from a much later period. Whilst the accounts of first two Sangams are generally rejected as ahistorical, some modern scholars, such as Kamil Zvelebil, find a kernel of truth in them, suggesting that they may be based on one or more actual historical assemblies. Others reject the entire notion as infactual. Nevertheless, legends of the Sangams played a significant role in inspiring political, social, and literary movements in Tamil Nadu in the early 20th century.
Most of the Literature was destroyed by Tsunamis, called Kadal Kol in Tamil.
Of the literature that survived is the Cilappadikaaram, one among the Great Five Tamil Epics, Aimperunkaapiyangal.
The Five Great Epics are,

Cilappadhikaram

Manimegalai,

Civaka Chinthamani,

Valayapathi and

Gundalakesi.

Of these only the Cilappadikaram in non religious epic.

Manimeghlai snd Kundalakesi were influenced by and propagate Buddhism,, Civaka Chinthamani and Valyapathi have leanings to Jainism .

Cilappadikaram was written by Ilango Adigal ,  a younger Prince of Chera Dynasty , ruling  ( roughly speaking) the present Kerala in India.

His brother was Cheran Chenguttuvanbwas a famous ruler and he is reported have extended his Kingdom to North India and made two Kings of North to carry a stone to the south.

It is stated that  an astrologer reading the horoscope of Ilango Adigal forecast that he would become  famous and be well-remembered by posterity.
Thinking that the astrologer implied that he would become a King superceding  Chenguttuvan, his brother,the heir to the throne, Ilango Adigal renounced his claim to the throne and became a Buddhist Monk.
And he composed the Cilappadikaram.
Ilango Adigal is not his name and it is a nom de plume.

ILANGO in Tamil means the younger one of the King.

Ilango had renounced even his name in favor of his brother.

He penned the real life incident of a  contemporary woman,Kannagi as a great Epic  Cilappadhikaram.
Cilappadhikaram , though it is translated as THe Story of The Anklet, the nearest translation of the Tamil word Cilappadhikaram is ‘Grown of an Anklet’, indicating that the entire epic is woven around an

Anklet.
That is the Anklet of Kannagi and the onevof the Pandyan Queen.

​The story of Kannagi.​

​Kannagi and Kovalan were born in Poompuhar, belonging to Chola Kingdgdom

( the city of Poompuhar, near Mayiladuthurai has been excavated​ from the sea and it has proved that the site is about 20,000 yeras old)

They belong to Traders Class and they got married.

after a few years Kovalan became a profligate and had developed intimacy with a Girl named Madhavi and in t

during the period Kannagi was upset and Kovalan  lost all his wealth.

​Embarrassed at having lost his wealth ​and repenting the injustice heaped by him on Kannagi, Kovalan, along with Kannagi left for Madurai, then a part of Pandya Kingdom to seek wealth.

In Madurai, the King’s goldsmith stole the Queen’s anklet, made of Pearls.

Kovalan, to make both ends meet, went to sell Kannagi’s Anklet, made of Ribies.

Seizing the opportunity to escape the Kin’s wrath, who has started checking the theft, the Goldsmith informed the King that he had found the thief, King arrested Kovalan and Kovalan was beheaded.

Wronged and a vengeful Kannagi presented herself in the King’s court and demonstrated that the Anklet her husband sold was hers and made of  made of Rubies and not the Queen’s , which was made of Pearls.

To prove it, Kannagi broke the anklets and the Rubies burst out.

​And Kannagi stings the King by saying that he was unfit to be a kIng​, who can not adjudicate properly and had sent an innocent man to his Gallows.Gallows. Realizing that he had failed in the administration of Justice, the Pandyan King dies on the spot and his wife also dies.

Still seething with anger, Kannagi plucks out one of her breasts and burns the city of Madurai.

Then she proceeded towards Vanchi, Chera Kingdom and cries out for her husband.

She then ascends Heavens amidst heavenly showers.

The place she ascended the Heavens is in Kerala Tamil Nadu border and there is a Temple of Kannagi where she is worshiped as an Embodiment of chastity and virtue.

Features of Cilappadikaaram.

1.Cilappadikaraam  contains three chapters and a total of 5270 lines of poetry.

2.The message of Silappadikaaram.

Arasiyal pizhaithorku aramkootru avathum         

For those who commit injustice in ruling/politics,
the justice itself will turn as demon of death.

Uraisaal pathini uyarnthor yetralum,

Noble people adore chaste woman

Oozhvinai uruthtu vantuttum enbathum

Unrelenting fate plays its hard role in ones life.

அரசியல் பிழைத்தோர்க்கு அறம் கூற்று ஆவதூஉம்,

உரைசால் பத்தினிக்கு உயர்ந்தோர் ஏத்தலும்,ஊழ்வினை உருத்து வந்து ஊட்டும் என்பதூஉம்,

சூழ் வினைச் சிலம்பு காரணமாக,சிலப்பதிகாரம் என்னும் பெயரால்நாட்டுதும் யாம் ஓர் பாட்டு உடைச் செய்யுள்

-Ilango Adigal in Silappadikaaram.

3.Silappadikaaram covers all the three Tamil Kingdoms.

 

Silappatikaram has three Cantos.:

  • Puharkkandam (புகார்க் காண்டம் – Puhar chapter), which deals with the events in the Chola city of Puhar, where Kannagi and Kovalan start their married life and Kovalan leaves his wife for the courtesan Madavi. This contains 10 cantos or divisions.
  • Maduraikkandam (மதுரைக் காண்டம் – Madurai chapter), is situated in Madurai in the Pandya kingdom where Kovalan loses his life, incorrectly blamed for the theft of the queen’s anklet. This contains 13 cantos.
  • Vanchikkandam (வஞ்சிக் காண்டம் – Vanchi chapter), is situated in the Chera country where Kannagi ascends to the heavens. This contains 7 cantos, and each of them is made of several sub-divisions called kaathais (narrative sections of the chapters).

4. Literary innovations. It introduces the intermingling of poetry with prose, a form not seen in previous Tamil works. It features an unusual praise of the Sun, the Moon, the river Kaveri and the city of Poompuhar at its beginning, the contemporary tradition being to praise a deity. It is also considered to be a predecessor of the Nigandu lexicographic tradition. It has 30 referred as monologues sung by any character in the story or by an outsider as his own monologue often quoting the dialogues he has known or witnessed. It has 25 cantos composed in akaval meter, used in most poems in Sangam literature. The alternative for this meter is called aicirucappu (verse of teachers) associted with verse composed in learned circles.Akaval is a derived form of verb akavu indicating to call or beckon. Silappatikaram is also credited to bring folk songs to literary genre, a proof of the claim that folk songs institutionalised literary culture with the best maintained cultures root back to folk origin.

According to the great Tamil commentator Atiyarkkunallar (12th-13th century BCE), poems were of two kinds – Col thodar nilai ceyyuḷ (சொல் தொடர் நிலை செய்யுள்) or poems connected by virtue of their formal properties and Poruḷ toṭar nilai ceyyuḷ (பொருள் தொடர் நிலை செய்யுள்), or poems connected by virtue of content that forms a unity] Cilappatikāram, the Tamil epic is defined by Atiyarkkunallar as Iyal icai nāṭaka poruḷ toṭar nilai ceyyuḷ (இயல் இசை நாடக பொருள் தொடர் நிலை செய்யுள்), poems connected by virtue of content that forms a unity having elements of poetry, music and drama. Such stanzas are defined as kāvya and kappiyam in Tamil. In Mayilainathar’s commentary (14th century CE) on the grammar Nannūl, we first hear the mention of aimperumkappiyam, the five great epics of Tamil literature.

Each one of these epics have long cantos, like in Cilappatikāram, which has 30 referred as monologues sung by any character in the story or by an outsider as his own monologue often quoting the dialogues he has known or witnessed. It has 25 cantos composed in akaval meter, used in most poems in Sangam literature. The alternative for this meter is called aicirucappu (verse of teachers) associated with verse composed in learned circles. Akaval is a derived form of verb akavu indicating to call or beckon.Cilappatikāram is also credited to bring folk songs to literary genre, a proof of the claim that folk songs institutionalised literary culture with the best maintained cultures root back to folk origin. Manimekalai is an epic in ahaval metre and is noted for its simple and elegant style of description of natural scenery. Cīvaka Cintāmaṇi is one of the earliest works of Tamil literature in long verses called virutha pa’

To put it in a simple language, one sentence runs through one chapter!

5. Silappdikaaram throws light on the Sanatana Dharma practices like the performance of Yagnyas and Poojas especially the one offered to Indra, started by the Yadus.

Sources..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram#Structure_of_Silappatikaram

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilango_Adigal

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/hindus-lived-74000-years-ago-survey-finds/

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Million Year Old Tamil Quotes Vedas, They Quote Tamil

Poompuhar Find Sets Tamil,Hinduism By Atleast 20000 Years

Tamil Sangam Dates 17000 Years Extended To Equator

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/manu-ramas-ancestor-migrated-from-south-india-5000-bc/ bsvn

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Sitas Birth Place Punaura Dham Sitamarhi Haleshwarnath


Sita, wife of Lord Rama, without whom the Greatness of Rama would not have been possible was born in Sitamarhi,India.

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Rama Breaks the Bow , marries Sita.

However there are disputes regarding this issue.

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Punaura Dham,Sita Marhi,Birth Place of Sita.

 

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Punaura Dham, is about 5 Kms. west of Sitamarhi. Saint Pundrik’s Ashram was situated here. This place also claims the honour of being the birth place of Hindu Goddess, Sita.

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About 1.5 Kms. Off he railway station and the bus stand, this is the birth place of Sita. Janaki-Kund is adjacent south of the temple.

Though there are differnt versions about Sita’s birth, I shall be taking the version of Valmiki and Kamban in Tamil, where it is stated that Sita was born in a Field when King Janaka was ploughing the field.

As for as Ramayana is concerned Valmikis version is accepted as authentic as it is Original and more pertinently Valmiki lived during Rama’s Reign and helped Sita deliver Her Children Lava and Kusa in his Ashram.

Here is a Temple , dedicated to Shiva, constrcuted by Janaka, father of Sita,on the occasion of Putra Yeshti Yajna. His temple was named as Haleshwarnath temple.

This is Haleshwarnath temple.

This is 3 Kms. noth-west of Sitamarhi.

Sita Marhi is also the place where Draupadi was Born.

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It is 8 Kms. north-east of Sitamarhi. It is said that after her marriage, sita was carried in a palanquin to Ayodhya by this route. An old Banyan tree is still standing here under which she is said to have rested for a while..

Bodhayan-Sar

This is the sacred place where Maharishi Bodhaya had written number of epics.

Bohodayana authored the sutras for the Vedas.

The great sanskrit Grammarian Panini was one of his disciples.

 

How To Reach Sitamarhi.

National Highway 77 connects the area to the Muzaffarpur district and Patna to the south. Sitamarhi has road connections to adjoining districts, of which the major examples are National Highway 77 and National Highway 104. State highways link it toMadhubani district in the east and Sheohar in the west.

Direct train services are available from Sitamarhi railway junction to places such as New Delhi, Kolkata, Varanasi, Lucknow, Hyderabad and Kanpur.

The nearest airport to Sitamarhi is the Jaiprakash Narayan International Airport which is about 120 kilometres (75 mi) distant.

Sitamarhi is connected to cities in and around Bihar by state-owned transport services. Some private buses operate between Patna to Sitamarhi and Paktola Village to Patna.

Citation.

http://sitamarhi.bih.nic.in/documents/tourism.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sita#Bi

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Three Gentlemen Or Three Idiots Of Dadri ?


India is one country, where under the garb of Freedom of Speech one can get away with any thing, even murder, literally if your additional qualification is that you belong to a minority community, meaning not a Hindu!

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And if you are a tinsel God, your word is the Bible, even if you have just touched the shadows of an educational institution.

You can air your views that were a  part of bed room talk between a husband and wife.

I have ceased writing on these issues for quite some time as they are trivial , it seemed to me.

But the recent non sensical discussion on Intolerance in India forces me write for leaving these gentlemen’s statements uncontested makes them bolder and as Goebbels dictum goes, the more audacious the lie, more likely that it will be believed.

I read an article in the Tamizhaka Arasiyal , a Tamil Political bi weekly from Chennai which answers most of the issues raised by Amir Khan on intolerance in India.

The article was titled Three Idiots.

His statement that the present situation in India made his wife wonder whether India is a safer place live and whether they should consider relocating.

The article is well  written and I am writing  this article based on the Tamil Article.

It is difficult to catch the flavour of the original nor the force of the article in English.

I shall  attempt.

‘ I am worried about the future of our children’

Said Kiran Rao Mohammad  Amir Hussein  Khan, wife of the Tinsel town Hero Amir Khan.

 

This, the 50-year-old actor disclosed in the Goenka Award function, alluding to the recent ‘incidents’ in India, which to him and his wife was a cause for concern.

 

While no body can deny the right of Mr.Khan to express his views in a country like India,a democracy, it is what he left unsaid is more pungent  that is bound have an impact on people who treat him as a demi God.

He could have stated that the recent incidents had hurt him,

Stray incidents are blown out of proportions,

In a vast country with over 23 languages and different practices, these small issues are bound to be and these should be condemned,

Or he could have said, as another legend of actor, Kamal Hassan did ( who normally takes shot at Hinduism in his movies ,though carefully skirting around Islam or Christianity), that beef eating is a matter of personal choice.

But the great Khan said neither.

Well, one can not expect anything better from one who has just touched the shadow of an educational institution!

He had not said as to which of these incidents had directly ‘threatened ‘ his child’s future. he could/should have.

 

An honest Man would have.

One who had a taken a Movie PK where Hindu Gods were insulted, where Lord Shiva was portrayed as hiding behind a Toilet should pause.

Had he portrayed Gods of other Religions even in a slightly satirical fashion, especially Prophet, would he be alive today?

 

Mind you, this movie was released by the Censor Board of India, when the much maligned Hindutva Party, BJP is in power!

When  some objected to the portrayal of Hindu Gods in PK thus, it was Hindus who raised their voice against this.

Does he remember that One Yousuf Khan had to change his name to a Hindu name so that he could be accepted by the masses.

He was the Legendary Dilip Kumar!

Which party was in power then?

Definitely not BJP

 

He could have expressed his concern about the incidents .

.No. he did not.

How could one who was appointed as the Ambassador was Clean India drive, Swach Bharat, by the same BJP Government?

Was he not threatened then?

Was he not concerned when his Hindu bashing movie raked in 300 Crore at the Box Office?

How come he had a heart to sow the seeds of poison among the Muslims of India, I am talking of normal Muslims, who partake food, functions and even in Temple festivals?

 

The irony is that Khan’s first wife Reena and his second wife Kiran Rao are Hindus.

Had he been in Saudi, Pakistan, can his wives call themselves this way, mixing up Hindu and Muslim names?

Well, if you have deicided to move away from India, which is intolerant, you could have, to liberal regimes like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.

Saudi Arabia, where people are killed in the name of Law and Order in Public or by terrorists,

Pakistan where one does not know when the next attack would come.

Or To Europe or USA where Islamophobia is ranging, where in the US there is, on an average one Public shooting a Day in this year, or where a Black child was shot dead for carrying a Knife!

Despite these incidents in the US, US citizens did not consider moving away from the US,

Instead, they have made Obama, a Muslim as their President.

In India we revere Dr. Zakir Husssian, Abdul Kalam, Fakhruddin Alil Ahmed former Presidents of India,Nawab of Pataudi,Azharuddin, Bismiilah Khan, Mammotty,Shah Rukh Khan, Amir Khan, Salman Khan ,

We see them as Indians, and not merely as Muslims!

Well, if you are an Indian by heat these thoughts would not even crossed your mind.

If you had a bed room discussion, better keep it there.

India may not be filthy rich .

It  has economic inequalities.

Its roads are not clean.

Might be there have been instances of the sort he mentioned here and there.

Should we not correct them?

Does it mean that one think of running away?

One does not change Fathers because one’s is not as handsome as the neighbour’s.

 

Did Amir Khan about the ruckus created by Muslims during the release of Kamal Hassan’s film Viswaroopam , where a scene was objected to by an unruly crowd?

 

Mr.Khan, if you do not like Narendra Modi, you may attack his policies( Amir Khan earlier stated he did not like Modi or his policies), as Shatrughan Sinha, a BJP big wig does.

But nobody bothers Shatrughan for he does not promote Sedition and spoils religious harmony.

You need the claps of Indians , their money and at the slightest possible excuse you want to run away?

We have another gentleman in Shah Rukh Khan who said that India is sliding back to Dark Ages( TV interview)

Being secular has become dangerous.

He has not been able to practice his religion Islam in India.

How?

As  when he entered into a brawl with women and cricket staff at the IPL, pitch drunk?

Islam promotes Drinking and public brawl?

Part of practicing your religion?

When Shah Rukh Khan was questioned by Income Tax for irregularities in his Club Kolkatta Knight Riders, Modi is blamed for targeting Shah Rukh!

Salman Khan,

A guy who killed people sleeping on the footpath by his drunken driving and changed his version so much that one thinks the  Car was driving itself!

His movies were banned in Pakistan.

Bajrangi Bhaijaan for making reference to the terrorist Hafiz Sayed!

 

How come these gentlemen kept quite when,

Pakistan army butchered Bangladeshis in 1971?

When Professor Joseph’s Hand was cut off in Kerala by Muslims?

Subsequent to Dadri episode Mr. Poojary was killed in Public in Mangalore?

When Snapdeal apps was uninstalled by over 100000 people, Amir Khan says he has no intention of leaving India!

These guys, sensitive, socially conscious?

Three Idiots’

Translated from Tamizhaka Arasiyal dated 2/12/2015

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Rig Yajur Sama Atharva Vedas Personified Images


 

The scriptures of the Hindus, the Vedas, four in number, are the highest truths revealed to the seers.

The refrain of the Vedas is self-realization.

The core of the Vedas do not advocate Idol worship but a Higher Reality, Brahman , whose attributes are Being, Consciousness and Bliss-Sat, Chit and Ananda.

However idol worship is allowed to concentrate the mind.

The Four Vedas are.

Rig Veda- consisting of Hymns.

Yajur Veda, dealing with duties.

Sama Veda, essentially the Rig Veda set to Tones.

Atharva Veda, dealing with practical life, including Black Magic.

Please read my posts on the Vedas and god with and without form.

I have searched the images of the Vedas personified.

I could not find them.

I found them in Subrahmanya Samajam, Nallakunta, Hyderabad, where I had been to attend a function.

Here they are.

 

 

 

 

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The Yajur Veda personified

The Yajur Veda Personified.

 

Hindu scripture sama veda personified.

Hindu scripture Sama veda personified.

Hindu scripture Atharva veda personified.

Hindu scripture Atharva veda personified.

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Sky Maps Star Position During Rig Veda Rama Krishna Birth


Indian Puranas, History and The Epics are not fairy tales.

They are facts.

I have been verifying statements events mentioned in these texts with the help of Astronomy, etymology of word used,archeological evidence,Anthropology,Geology and tools like Carbon Dating, Atomic verification,Infra red evaluation.

I have published posts on many events narrated in the Indian Texts.

Now I am posting information on the appearance of the sky during,

The Rig Vedic Period,

Rama’s Birth,

Krishna’s Birth.

These maps have been arrived at running the references found in these instances through a Software designed to arrive at star positions and period..

Rig Vedic Period Sky Map.

There are 53 references in Rigveda as prayers offered to Aswinis at dawn. The description clearly points to the observation of the pair of stars in the Aries constellation (referred to as Aashvin or Asvini) just before sunrise as a ritual to mark the year beginning. Using Planetarium software, we find that the Winter Solstice occurred on 19 December, 7000 BC at 0735 hrs as shown in Figure 1. This is the earliest reference to Vedic calendar with year beginning at Winter Solstice, found in Rigveda (5-77-1/2; 1-46-14; 7-69-3/2). Heliacal rising of Ashwini Nakshatra (Aries) can be seen to occur on 5th January, 7000 BC, marking the year beginning (Fig. 1).

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Skymap during Ri Vedic Period.Fig. 1

Pre Dawn Sky during Rig Vedic Times.

A thousand years later, Winter Solstice no longer occurred near Aries (Asvini) due to precession. As a result, Ashwinis were no longer rising heliacally as before. They were still below the horizon at sunrise around Winter Solstice time. The Winter Solstice had moved to Revati by 6000 BC. Thus the precession of Equinoxes and Solistices was being observed by Rigvedic Scholars.

The Sky of 19th December, 6000 BC at sunrise on the Winter Solstice day shows that Ashvini gave way to bright star Chitra (α Vir) on opposite side (Western horizon). A full Moon in Chitra Nakshatra provided a new time marker in the sky and heralded the lunar month naming system-Chaitra, Vaisakha etc. (Rigveda: 5-74-1,2 and Tait Samh. 7-4-8). See Fig. 2 –

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Fig.2 .The Sky of 19th December, 6000 BC at sunrise on the Winter Solstice day shows that Ashvini gave way to bright star Chitra (α Vir) on opposite side (Western horizon). A full Moon in Chitra Nakshatra provided a new time marker in the sky and heralded the lunar month naming system-Chaitra, Vaisakha etc. (Rigveda: 5-74-1,2 and Tait Samh. 7-4-8).

Please check my post on Agstya star, Canopus Validates Sanatana Dharma.

Rama’s Birth, Sky Map.

Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa(9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra).At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9.

1. Sun in Aries
2. Saturn in Libra
3. Jupiter in Cancer
4. Venus in Pisces
5. Mars in Capricorn
6. Lunar month of Chaitra
7. 9th day after New Moon
(Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh)
8. Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra
(Pollux star in Gemini constellation)
9. Cancer as Lagna
(Cancer constellation rising in the east)
10. Jupiter above the horizon
The observations on the left, when entered into Planetarium software gives us the above Sky Chart, which in turns gives forth the below mentioned date.

Sri Rama Navami – 10th January 5114 BCE – Birth Day of Rama
Observation at 12.30 p.m.

Skymap During Krishna’s Birth.

Lord Krishna was born around midnight. That night was the eight phase of the moon known as Ashtami Tithi. The moon was near Vrshabha, the bull, i.e the Taurus constellation that houses the star Rohini. The star Rohini is known as Aldeberan in modern astronomy. The month was Shravana, one of the 12 months in the Indian calendar.

Shravana vada ashtami, Rohini Nakshtra, uditam Lagnam

( Srimad Bhagavatham, Skanda 10, Chapter 3.)

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Sky During Krishna’s Birth.

Date of Krishna’s Birth By Gregorain Calendar.

27th July, 3112 BCE .

Couple of Points.

1.Astronomical events repeat themselves at regular intervals.hence fixing one date is difficult.

We are taking the last event for calculation.

As time is Eternal and Cyclic, the events repeat themselves.

Please read my posts on Time Non Linear for more information.

You may check my posts under Astrophysics on Astrodating and dating of Events.

Citations and Sources.

Krihsna’s Birth , Skymap.Image courtesy. Sri. Narahari Achar, Memphis Univesrsity US.

https://kalyan98.wordpress.com/2007/12/25/ramayana-era-based-on-planetarium-software/

http://sarojbala.blogspot.in/2012/06/scientific-dating-of-ramayan-era.html

https://bharathgyanblog.wordpress.com/

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