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Christian Conversion At TTD Run Tirupati College

In Christianity, Hindusim on February 24, 2015 at 08:02

There has a been a systematic attempt at converting students to Christianity by the principal of Sri Venkateswara Arts. College Tirupati.

Evangelical literature is being distributed in the hostel .

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Famous Hindu Paintings Personalities disfigured in TTD Tirupathi College.

Protesting students were lathi charged while no action seems to have been taken against the offenders.

It is strange that a Non Hindu is appointed as a Principal in a Hindu run Educational Institution.

Would any Church or a Muslim Institution even dream of appointing a Non Christian, Non Muslim in their institutions?

There have been attempts to run an Islamic University in Tirupati, grabbing Lord Vishnu’s Temple land.

The news on the latest attempt by Christians to convert in TTD College, as in the case of Islam University, did not make it to Main stream newspapers.

Ghar Wapsi is being splashed around everywhere.

Long Live Secularism.

 

 

The Story.

The Principal of the Sri Venkateshwara Arts College who goes by the name of Dr M. D. Christopher has been accused by the students of college and various student organizations that he is aiding Christian proselytization. If one looks at the happenings at the SV Arts College in the recent months, there is a strong possibility that this allegation is indeed true.

Evangelist literature is being distributed to students in the college campus. The manner in which the evangelist books are distributed is quite alarming and would not have been possible without the helping hand of the college administration. The students of the hostel are specially targeted for this soul harvest. Evangelical books and other literature arrived in a postal package and were addressed to each student by his name and they were in fact delivered to his room in the hostel. The students say that such distribution of books has happened many times over.

Students allege that complaints about this missionary activity to the Principal  andTTD officials have fallen on deaf ears. The students of the college directly point fingers at the Principal. The Principal has appointed to his staff a person named Rajkumar. Rajkumar is alleged to have given out the names and addresses of the students to the missionary organization distributing the literature. In spite of repeated complaints, no action was taken by the Principal. The Principal is also accused of appointing non-Hindu staff.’

Related.

Islamic University near Thirupathi?

 

Would The Saudi Government allow a Hindu Temple to come up near Mecca?

Global Hindu Heritage Foundation (GHHF) was able to get about ten pictures of the building and the nearby places. Many of our friends have been trying to find out the sinister plans of starting Islamic College near Tirupathi.  Following information is being provide for your purview :

1. The seven layer/storied building is being constructed in Chandragiri village which is about 13 kilometers from Tirupathi.

2. There is big sign posted on the main road to indicate that it is the home of “Heera International Islamic College (HIIC).” On the same sign board it is written “Women Arabic College.”

3. Down below the sign board, on the ground there is a sign “Swarnamukhi River Rejuvenation Project.” The name Chandragiri is also printed on the sign board.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/islamic-university-at-tirupati-in-vishnu-temple-land/

 

Abraham Brahmin Priest Voltaire. Migrated From India

In Hindusim on February 11, 2015 at 18:29

The similarities in terms of the Etymology of the words in Judaism, Hiitie,the ancestors of the Jewish People, the legends about the characters in their mythology are striking.

I have posted an article that Manu is believed to Be Noah and Yehuda is derived from Yadava, Yayati.

Some interesting points have come to my notice.

“Abraham descended from some of the numerous Brahman priests who left India to spread their teachings throughout the world”

-Voltaire.

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Abraham Sacrificing Isaac,Rembrandt Painting. This work is in the public domain in the United States, and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years or less.

He based his assertions on the similarity of names and the fact that the city of Ur, land of the patriarchs, was near the border of Persia, the road to India, where that Brahman had been born.

The name of Brahma was highly respected in India, and his influence spread throughout Persia as far as the lands bathed by the rivers Euphrates and Tigris. The Persians adopted Brahma and made him their own. Later they would say that the God arrived from Bactria, a mountainous region situated midway on the road to India. (pp. 46-47.)

Bactria (a region of ancient Afghanistan) was the locality of a prototypical Jewish nation called Juhuda or Jaguda, also called Ur-Jaguda. Ur meant “place or town.” Therefore, the bible was correct in stating that Abraham came from “Ur of the Chaldeans.” “Chaldean,” more correctly Kaul-Deva (Holy Kauls), was not the name of a specific ethnicity but the title of an ancient Hindu Brahmanical priestly caste who lived in what are now Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Indian state of Kashmir.

“The tribe of Ioud or the Brahmin Abraham, was expelled from or left the Maturea of the kingdom of Oude in India and, settling in Goshen, or the house of the Sun or Heliopolis in Egypt, gave it the name of the place which they had left in India, Maturea.” (Anacalypsis; Vol. I, p. 405.)

“He was of the religion or sect of Persia, and of Melchizedek.”(Vol. I, p. 364.)

“The Persians also claim Ibrahim, i.e. Abraham, for their founder, as well as the Jews. Thus we see that according to all ancient history the Persians, the Jews, and the Arabians are descendants of Abraham.(p.85) …We are told that Terah, the father of Abraham, originally came from an Eastern country called Ur, of the Chaldees or Culdees, to dwell in a district called Mesopotamia. Some time after he had dwelt there, Abraham, or Abram, or Brahma, and his wife Sara or Sarai, or Sara-iswati, left their father’s family and came into Canaan. The identity of Abraham and Sara with Brahma and Saraiswati was first pointed out by the Jesuit missionaries.”(Vol. I; p. 387.)”

-Moisés y los Extraterrestres by Tomás Doreste .

Another View.

Abraham is Brahma.

In Hindu mythology, Sarai-Svati is Brahm’s sister. The bible gives two stories of Abraham. In this first version, Abraham told Pharaoh that he was lying when he introduced Sarai as his sister. In the second version, he also told the king of Gerar that Sarai was really his sister. However, when the king scolded him for lying, Abraham said that Sarai was in reality both his wife and his sister!“…and yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.” (Genesis 20:12.)..

The bible also states that Ishmael, son of Hagar, and his descendants lived in India. “…Ishmael breathed his last and died, and was gathered to his kin… They dwelt from Havilah (India), by Shur, which is close to Egypt, all the way to Asshur.” (Genesis 25:17-18.) It is an interesting fact that the names of Isaac and Ishmael are derive from Sanskrit: (Hebrew) Ishaak = (Sanskrit) Ishakhu = “Friend of Shiva.” (Hebrew) Ishmael = (Sanskrit) Ish-Mahal = “Great Shiva.”

A third mini-version of the Abraham story turns him into another “Noah.” We know that a flood drove Abraham out of India. “…Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, Even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor; and they served other gods. And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan.” (Joshua 24:2-3.)..

About 1900 BC, the cult of Brahm was carried to the Middle and Near East by several different Indian groups after a severe rainfall and earthquake tore Northern India apart, even changing the courses of the Indus and Saraisvati rivers. The classical geographer Strabo tells us just how nearly complete the abandonment of Northwestern India was. “Aristobolus says that when he was sent upon a certain mission in India, he saw a country of more than a thousand cities, together with villages, that had been deserted because the Indus had abandoned its proper bed.” (Strabo’s Geography, XV.I.19.)

“The drying up of the Sarasvati around 1900 BCE, which led to a major relocation of the population centered around in the Sindhu and the Sarasvati valleys, could have been the event that caused a migration westward from India. It is soon after this time that the Indic element begins to appear all over West Asia, Egypt, and Greece.” (Indic Ideas in the Graeco-Roman World, by Subhash Kak, taken from IndiaStar online literary magazine; p.14)

Indian historian Kuttikhat Purushothama Chon believes that Abraham was driven out of India. He states that the Aryans, unable to defeat the Asuras (The mercantile caste that once ruled in the Indus Valley or Harappans) spent so many years fighting covertly against the Asuras, such as destroying their huge system of irrigation lakes, causing destructive flooding, that Abraham and his kindred just gave up and marched to West Asia. (See Remedy the Frauds in Hinduism.) Therefore, besides being driven out of Northern India by floods, the Aryans also forced Indian merchants, artisans, and educated classes to flee to West Asia.’

On the basis of available evidence I am inclined to take the position that Abraham could have descended from Brahmins and coud have migrated either from South India when Shiva and Ganesha left for the Arctic through Middle east and Satyavarta Manu left for Ayodhya or from the Uttarakuru Kingdom.

Citation.

Who was Abraham?

Bible Family Tree In Bhavishya Purana Enoch and Others

In Hinduism on February 6, 2015 at 19:00

Judaism and Christianity seem to have borrowed heavily from Hinduism.

 

I am providing the family Tree according to The Bible and the Text from the Bhavishya Purana.

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Family Tree of The Bible.

Click to Enlarge the Image.

Bhavishya Purana Text.

Text: 31
His wife Havyavati (Eve) will be very eager to see the tree of sin, and will go by the shadow of the tree. Kali (Satan) also will come there in the form of serpent.

Text: 32
Then they will disobey the commandment of Vishnu who told Adama (Adam) not to eat the fruit of the tree of sin. Because the fruit was good to see they eat it and become “Mleccha” and hence will turn towards the world.

Text: 33
They will wear the garments of fig leaves against the wind. The children of their generation will be called as “Mlecchas” because Adama (Adam) and Havya (Eve) will disobey Vishnu.

Text: 34
Adama (Adam) will live for 930 years.

Text: 35
Shveta (Seth) will be his son, of Shveta (Seth), Kenaasha (Cainan), son of Anuha.

Text: 36
Anuha (Enos) will be the son of Shveta (Seth), Kenaasha (Cainan), son of Anuha.

Text: 38
Virada (Jared) his son will live for 160 years and beget a son, and then live 900 years.

Text: 39
Hanucha (Enoch) son of Virada will be an ardent worshipper of Vishnu.

Enoch (/ˈnək/; Hebrew: חֲנוֹךְ, Modern H̱anokh, Tiberian Ḥănōḵ; Arabic: إدريسʼIdrīs) is a figure in Biblical literature. In addition to an appearance in the Book of Genesis of the Hebrew Bible, Enoch is the subject of many Jewish and Christian writings.

Enoch was the son of Jared (Gen 5:19-21), the father of Methuselah, and the great-grandfather of Noah. Enoch lived 365 years before he was taken by God, which is a small amount of time compared to his offspring Methuselah, who lived to be 969 years old. The text reads that Enoch “walked with God: and he was no more; for God took him” (Gen 5:22–29). This Enoch is not to be confused with Cain’s son Enoch (Gen 4:17). The Christian New Testament has three references to Enoch from the lineage of Seth (Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14–15).’-Enoch 

Text: 40
Hanucha (Enoch) will rule for 365 years and being an ardent worshipper of Vishnu according to Mleccha Dharma, he will ascend bodily to heaven.

Text: 43
Matocchila (Methusela) his son will rule for 970 years.

Text: 44
Lomaka (Lamech) his son will rule for 777 years.

Text: 45
Nyuha (Noah) will be his son. He will rule for 500 years. He will beget three sons. Seema, Shama (Shem), and his brother. Nyuha will be the only beloved of Vishnu always meditating on Vishnu.

Text: 47
Lord Vishnu will one day appear in a dream to Nyuha (Noah) and will say:

Text: 48
“My son Nyuha (Noah), hear me, this world will be destroyed by flood in seven days. Therefore build thou a ship (ark) for you and your family only to be safe from Pralayam (Flood).

Text: 49
Prosper in this world after the flood for thou art the most righteous man on the earth”. Then the sage Nyuha (Noah) will prepare a ship.

Text: 50
Length of the ship 300 hand breadth, Width, 50 hand breadth, height 30 hand breadth.

Text: 51
Meditating on Vishnu, Nyuha (Noah) will ascend the ship along with his wife, his three sons and their wives (eight souls). The world was flooded by rain for 44 days.

Text: 52
The whole land of Bharata (India), Plava (Palestina) and Sindava (Punjab) will go submerged in that flood.

Text: 54
All will be lost except Nyuha and his family. Thus ends the 4th chapter.

Ch.5 Text 1-3
The Vedic Script will be lost in the floods. Only the Mleccha language will prevail. As Kali Yuga will proceed Brahmi language will prosper.

Text: 5
Sima (Shem), Hama (Ham) Yakuta (Japheth) will be the three children of Nyuha who will replenish the earth after the flood Yakuta will beget seven sons.

Text: 9
The second son Hama (Ham) will beget four sons. Kusha (Cush) Mishra (Mizraim), Kuja (Canaan) and…….

Text: 11
Nimaruh (Nimrod) son of Kusha will be mighty in strength and prevail.

Text: 13
Sima (Shem) the eldest son of Nyuha will be ruler for 500 years.

Text: 14
Arkansada (Arphaxed) his son rules for 430 years.

Text: 15
Simhla (Sela) will rule for 406 years. His son is Ivrata (Eber).

Text: 16
Phalaga (Peleg) his son will rule for 224 years.

Text: 17
Ravu (Reu) his son will rule for 237 years.

Text: 18
Juja (Serug) his son, Nahora (Nahor).

Text: 19
Tahara (Terah) will beget Avirama (Abraham), Nahura (Nahor), Harana (Haran).

Text: 20
They all become Mleccha by the curse of Saraswati and they will speak Mleccha language but Samskrita (Sanskrit) will be the language of Bharata Desham (India).

Text: 22
But these people (Mleccha) will go to another country and prosper there as Mlecchas in that country, but originally belonging to Bhara Desham.

Text: 29
2000 years after the prosperity of Mlecchas the whole world will be full of mixed people.

Text: 30
Some divine sage will stay on the shores of river Saraswathi. One great leader of Mlecchas, Moosha (Moses) wil arise.

Text: 31
At that time in Kali Yuga there will not be true worship of God, the true Vedic language is lost and the Mleccha language will be of four types.

Citaion.

Bible Family Tree in Bhavishya Purana

Jesus ‘mentally ill suffered from paranoia’ Bible Not Historic Study

In Christianity on February 6, 2015 at 08:51

I chanced upon this.

I thought about skipping it.

But the names associated with it included A. Schweitzer.

Worth reading.

That the Bible was concocted is a fact, that it was compiled by Emperor Constantine to suit his political ambition is true.

As to Christ, I doubt he existed,

Please read my post on this.

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Dead Christ supported_by the madonna and saint John pieta

Even those who deny that Jesus existed – and I am one of them – must agree that whether the gospels are true or not they don’t give us any confidence in the sanity of Jesus Christ.  Even if Jesus didn’t exist the gospels could have been based on stories about eccentrics and fairly obscure prophets of the time who did exist. 

 

If we can prove that the Jesus Christ in them was mad then that is all we need to destroy Christianity.  It would mean that the apostles he chose and the Church he founded were all very silly people indeed.  It would mean that we have to be on guard against any other religious movement because if Christianity was founded on the ravings of a madman and was such a success any other religion could have been the same.

 

We can be sure that there is no evidence for Jesus’ sanity and plenty of evidence against it.

 

You will see plenty of Christian books written in defence of the faith that deny that Jesus was mentally ill and claim that he was the sanest person that ever lived.

 

It is possible that Jesus was a manic-depressive.  He said he was the light of the world (John 9:5) and the only way to God (John 14:6) and the unique Son of God (John 17).  That is the sign of severe mania.  He was unnaturally full of himself.  Even if it were true, we would expect him to let others say he was this great being instead of him trying to convince him.  If he really had the power to influence people through using the Holy Spirit he did not need to make such declarations.”

 

The following information is worth thinking about as it throws quite a few questions about Bible and Jesus.

This study was published in Dutch as: Jezus de Messias. Was het christendom een vergissing ? Antwerpen, EPO, and as:Toen God sliep schreef de mens de Bijbel. De bijbel belicht door een psycholoog. Antwerpen, Facet.

Summary.

This psychopathological study of the Gospel resulted in a revolutionary view on the personality of Jesus and his life, the sources of his spirituality and ideas. The hypothesis of paraphreny was able to explain a number of otherwise unexplained events. Did Jesus survive the crucifixion ? Is the Apocalypse the first Christian document, earlier than the letters of Paul ? Was the resurrection a myth? These questions find an answer in this study.

 

About 1910 three competent psychiatrists: Ch. Binet-Sangle, G.L.De Loosten (G. Lomer) and W. Hirsch concluded after thorough examination of the texts, that Jesus was mentally ill and suffered from paranoia. They were criticised by A. Schweitzer who alleged that from an historical point of view most texts were dubious or certainly not historic, e.g. the quotations from the Gospel of St. John, and from a medical point of view that the alleged symptoms of paranoia or another mental disease were misunderstood.
Three objections seemed essential: first: there is no certainty about the historical truth of the texts, secondly: what seems to us like a symptom was possibly a normal trait, a cultural feature in that civilisation, thirdly: there are not enough sure elements in order to found on them a safe judgment.

If witnesses describe in a text correctly (according to modern psychopathology) a number of elements (symptoms) and if these symptoms are coherent and can be identified with a known syndrome, while these witnesses ignored completely psychopathology and moreover intended to prove a very different interpretation of the facts (a faulty one), there can be no more doubt about the authenticity of the described facts.

The decision consequently about the historicity of the facts will no more depend upon mere philological criteria, but also upon psychopathological ones. Schweitzer supposes incorrectly, that the philological criteria are the only ones that can decide about historicity; in fact: the psychopathological control is more efficient and safe. So the first objection of Schweitzer is eliminated.

The second objection of Schweitzer, that symptoms may be misunderstood cultural features, is at least superficial. It is very clear that the true pathological nature of the observed symptoms is culture-independent, although they may be coloured by the cultural background. Unadapted and strange behaviour as it is seen by extraneous observers, is on account of this fact itself matched against the own cultural background of the observers, but if this background is identical with the background of the subject no cultural interference exists any more. Therefore it is important to study the reaction of the own cultural milieu of the subject…

In the Gospel of Mark a child is described, possessed by the devil. The features, found in the text, are all coherent with the syndrome of epilepsy and especially with an infantile type: perinatal infection of the ear with inflammatory complications, causing thrombo-phlebitis in the brain with the consequence of epileptic seizures and deaf-muteness. In the text of Mark all symptoms are precisely described: the child is mute, falls in the water and the fire (loss of conscience), utters a cry and is agitated, has foam on his mouth, becomes like dead and after a while is “cured”.
2000 years ago nobody was aware of the true nature of epilepsy and the typical features in young children. (Hippocrates described the epilepsy as a disease, but we can consider that this was largely ignored in Judaea.)
In the Bible numerous texts mention the hearing of voices, especially the voice of God. Current exegesis (Kittel, Theologisches Woerterbuch des Neuen Testaments, s.v. “Phone”) interbreeds these texts as metaphorical: hearing the voice of God is simply the expression for a vocation by God. However in psychopathology “hear a voice” is a current expression for an auditive (sensory) hallucination. Often the voice heard is identified as the voice of God. So the question is, if the voices heard by Jesus ( Baptism, desert, Thabor) were hallucinatory ones as even Schweitzer suggests.
The narrative of the baptism of Jesus shows a text-evolution. In the Gospel: as Mark says that Jesus saw the Heaven opened, Matthew says that the heaven opened and that Jesus saw a bird… Luke lays a heavy accent on the physical appearance of a dove and eliminates any allusion to a vision, John adds the testimony of John the Baptist, the latter saw the ghost… The text-evolution seems to intend to change a subjective vision into an objective happening. Of course Mark has always the most original version: Jesus saw the heaven opened, he saw a bird, he heard a voice. This is the evidence, if one considers the complete narrative of Jesus baptism and his stay in the desert. Psychopathological investigation discovers in Mark, Luke and Matthew, regardless of the fact that especially Luke adapted the original version, a number of well-known symptoms of an hallucinatory state: hearing the voices of God and the devil, seeing wild beasts (zoopsie), having the impression to fly (vestibular hallucination), having visions of the whole world, suffering from anorexia (fasting). In that light the vision of the Baptism also is certainly another manifestation of this hallucinatory state: a well-localised (heavenly) vision, seeing a light (opening of heaven) , of a bird, the hearing of a voice, communicating a grandiose genetic message (you are my beloved son), a voice speaking in the second person as hallucinatory voices often do.
Date Contradcition about the date of birth of Jesus
It is important to see the essential difference between the Gospel of Infancy and the baptism-Thabor episode. Most biblical students see the Gospel of Infancy as a mythical corpus in the New Testament and they mention numerous reasons. First there are the chronological contradictory data. According to Matthew Jesus should be born (between 6 and 4 B.C.) during the reign of the great Herod, who died in 4 B.C.; the census which according to Luke, obliged the parents to travel to Bethlehem, was executed by Quirinius, who according to the precise indications of Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, became procurator of Syria in 7 A.D.., i.e. 11 to 12 years later. Furthermore the beginning of Jesus public life, when he was about thirty years, is situated by Luke (3,1) in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius (1 October 27-30 September 28). According to that indication Jesus should be born in 4-3 B.C . The historians never solved these difficulties.
Secondly: the divergence between Matthew and Luke is striking. For Luke an angel appears to Mary and to Elizabeth. For Matthew each event is predicted in the Old Testament; for Luke the quotations of the O.T. are replaced by occasional prophecies by Hannah and Simeon. For Matthew a star appears, magicians come, there is a flight to Egypt and a killing of innocents by the great Herod. For Luke there are only shepherds, angels and music, the circumcision in the Temple and a simple return to Nazareth. He does not mention Egypt, or the Innocents. In the Protevangelium Jacobi another series of divergent elements can be found. Herod kills Zechariah, while John is sought for; there is no star, no magicians, no prophecies, only the angels and their message to Mary and to Elizabeth.
Thirdly: the only elements, which all witnesses have in common are: 1° the exceptional pregnancy of Mary, 2° the hesitation of Joseph, 3° the birth of Jesus, 4° the  exceptional sphere of wonders. Each witness surrounds these historical events with a scenery of marvellous elements of his own…
As has been said, if all symptoms coherently are in accordance with a well-known syndrome, there can be no more doubt about the historical truth of the described facts because it was impossible in Hebrew antiquity to describe accurately and correctly what twenty centuries later became known as a mental disease without having observed it. The fact that can be shown is that in the Gospel an image is found of Jesus, which is entirely coherent with the syndrome of paraphrenia, and that it is quite sure that this was not the intention of the authors of the Gospel. Nothing specifically divine or even superior is noted. Paraphrenia has to be understood as a mental disease sometimes also classified in the category of paranoia and opposed to schizophrenia. In opposition to the schizophrenic the paraphrenic remains adapted to his milieu, has a coherent thinking and a well-organised behaviour. Generally hallucinations are rare, but initiate a delusional state, often with a grandiose genetic theme. The paraphrenic is very sensitive to the opposition against his ideas: he is often full of resentment and hate. This is exactly the image the Gospel has painted of Jesus. If miracles are the only argument for the supposed divinity of Jesus, one must take into account that a number of these are certainly pseudo-miracles (cf. the epileptic child ‘(Mc. 9) or the possessed of Gerasa (Mc. 5)).
Citation from the research Papers.
* This Post is to present diverse views.I have posted artciles on Objectiobale material in Hinduism,Islam as well.
So do not conclude this is Christianity bashing.
Contradicting views with research welcome.

Adam Eve Atma Jiva Upanishad Story In Hebrew Christianity

In Hinduism on January 29, 2015 at 12:54

I have  posted quite a fe articles on the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world with the help of Archeology and Astronomy.

Considering the fact that Sanskrit being the oldest language of Mankind and th earliest Human literature being the Rig Veda, I am trying to find out the Link between Santana Dharma, Hinduism through Sanskrit Etymology.

I have posted blogs on the close Links between various Civilisations and Cultures with Hinduism.

Now to Etymological connection.

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The Logo Of India Contains the quote Truth Alone Triumphs’ from Mundaka Upanishad

 

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Adam Eve Forbidden Fruit Painting by Titan.

The Upanisadic story speaks of two birds perched on the branch of a pippala tree.

One eats the fruit of tree while the order merely watches its companion without eating.

The pippala tree stands for the body.

The first bird represents a being that regards himself as the jivatman or individual self and the fruit it eats signifies sensual pleasure. In the same body (symbolized by the tree) the second bird is to be understood as the Paramatman.

He is the support of all beings but he does not know sensual pleasure.

Since he does not eat the fruit he naturally does not have the same experience as the jivatman (the first).

The Upanisad speaks with poetic beauty of the two birds.

He who eats the fruit is the individual self, jiva, and he who does not eat is the Supreme Reality, the one who knows himself to be the Atman.

It is this jiva that has come to be called Eve in the Hebrew religious tradition. “Ji” changes to “i” according to a rule of grammar and “ja” to “ya”. We have the example of “Yamuna” becoming “Jamuna” or of “Yogindra” being changed to “Joginder “.

In the biblical story “jiva” is “Eve” and “Atma” (or “Atman”) is “Adam”. “Pippala” has in the same way changed to “apple”.

The Tree of Knowledge is our “bodhi-vrksa”. “Bodha” means “knowledge”.

It is well known that the Budhha attained enlightenment under the bodhi tree. But the pipal (pippala) was known as the bodhi tree even before his time.

The story is from the Mundaka Upanishad.

Some famous verses.

नायमात्मा प्रवचनेन लभ्यो
न मेधया न बहुना श्रुतेन।
यमेवैष वृणुते तेन लभ्य-
स्तस्यैष आत्मा विवृणुते तनूं स्वाम्‌॥ ३॥
nāyamātmā pravacanena labhyo
na medhayā na bahunā śrutena |
yamevaiṣa vṛṇute tena labhya-
stasyaiṣa ātmā vivṛṇute tanūṁ svām || 3||
Translation:
This Atman cannot be attained through study of the Vedas,
nor through intelligence, nor through much learning.
He who is chosen by Atman—by him alone is Atman attained.
It is Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature.[1]

Mundaka Upanishad 3.2.9:

Sanskrit:
ब्रह्म विद् ब्रह्मैव भवति ।
Brahma vid Brahmaiva bhavati ।
Translation:
He who knows Brahman becomes Brahman.

Citation.

 

Bibilical Story from Upanishad.Citation.

Mundaka Upanishad

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