Naivedya Prarthana Pradakshina Ahuthi in Pre Islamic Arabia

Pre Islamic society borrowed the conceptsl of Hinduism either directly or through the Hitties/Sumeria.

Prophet had destroyed 360 Idols in Kaaba.

There were four Major Deities.

Hubbol,

Al-lat,

Al-Uzza and

Manat.

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I have written on the religious practices in Kaaba are similar to what is practiced in sanatana dharma, Hinduism.

Vedic practices in Islam ,Kaaba

Pre Islamic society borrowed the conceptsl of Hinduism either directly or through the Hitties/Sumeria.

Prophet had destroyed 360 Idols in Kaaba.

There were four Major Deities.

Hubbol,

Al-lat,

Al-Uzza and

Manat.

(Will be writing on these Deities)

Ghazni invaded and destroyed Somnath temple, believing that a an idol of Manat was spirited away to Somnath temple,India.

I am quoting from Islamic source.

My comments are in Itlalics..

Some features of their worship of idols were:
Self-devotion to the idols, seeking refuge with them, acclamation of their names, calling for their help in hardship, and supplication to them for fulfillment of wishes, hopefully that the idols (i.e., heathen gods) would mediate with Allâh for the fulfillment of people’s wishes.

Performing pilgrimage to the idols, circumrotation round them, self-abasement and even prostrating themselves before them.

This is Theertha yatra,pradakshina and prarthana of Hinduism.

Seeking favour of idols through various kinds of sacrifices and immolation.

..

Consecration of certain portions of food, drink, cattle, and crops to idols. Surprisingly enough, portions were also consecrated to Allâh Himself, but people often found reasons to transfer parts of Allâh’s portion to idols, but never did the opposite. To this effect, the Qur’ânic verses go:

This is Naivedya and offering Aahuthi.

“And they assign to Allâh a share of the tilth and cattle which He has created, and they say: ‘This is for Allâh according to their pretending, and this is for our (Allâh’s so-called) partners.’ But the share of their (Allâh’s so-called) ‘partners’, reaches not Allâh, while the share of Allâh reaches their (Allâh’s so-called) ‘partners’. Evil is the way they judge.” [6:136]

Carrying favours with these idols through votive offerings of crops and cattle, to which effect, the Qur’ân goes:

Hinduism offers cattle to deities even today.

Dedication of certain animals (such as Bahira, Sa’iba, Wasila and Hami) to idols, which meant sparing such animals from useful work for the sake of these heathen gods. Bahira, as reported by the well-known historian, Ibn Ish, was daughter of Sa’iba which was a female camel that gave birth to ten successive female animals, but no male ones, was set free and forbidden to yoke, burden or being sheared off its wool, or milked (but for guests to drink from); and so was done to all her female offspring which were given the name ‘Bahira’, after having their ears slit. The Wasila was a female sheep which had ten successive female daughters in five pregnancies. Any new births from this Wasila were assigned only for male people. The Hami was a male camel which produced ten progressive females, and was thus similarly forbidden.

….

The Arabs believed that such idols, or heathen gods, would bring them nearer to Allâh, lead them to Him, and mediate with Him for their sake, to which effect, the Qur’ân goes:

“We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh.” [39:3], and

“And they worship besides Allâh things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: These are our intercessors with Allâh.” [10:18]

in whatever Form you worship, all come to me
-Bhagavad Gita.
Akasaath pathitham ……sloka states,
Just as water,whatever be its form,rivers,rivulets,rain…reaches the Ocean finally,whatever Gods/Forms you worship ,all of them reach Me…Krishna.
This is recited thrice everyday by Brahmins while performing Sandhya vandana.

Another divinatory tradition among the Arabs was casting of Azlam (i.e. featherless arrows which were of three kinds: one showing ‘yes’, another ‘no’ and a third was blank) which they used to do in case of serious matters like travel, marriage and the like. If the lot showed ‘yes’, they would do, if ‘no’, they would delay for the next year. Other kinds of Azlam were cast for water, blood-money or showed ‘from you’, ‘not from you’, or ‘Mulsaq’ (consociated). In cases of doubt in filiation they would resort to the idol of Hubal, with a hundred-camel gift, for the arrow caster. Only the arrows would then decide the sort of relationship.If the arrow showed (from you), then it was decided that the child belonged to the tribe; if it showed (from others), he would then be regarded as an ally, but if (consociated) appeared, the person would retain his position but with no lineage or alliance contract.

This was very much like gambling and arrow-shafting whereby they used to divide the meat of the camels they slaughtered according to this tradition.

Moreover, they used to have a deep conviction in the tidings of soothsayers, diviners and astrologers. A soothsayer used to traffic in the business of foretelling future events and claim knowledge of private secrets and having jinn subordinates who would communicate the news to him. Some soothsayers claimed that they could uncover the unknown by means of a granted power, while other diviners boasted they could divulge the secrets through a cause-and-effect-inductive process that would lead to detecting a stolen commodity, location of a theft, a stray animal, and the like. The astrologer belonged to a third category who used to observe the stars and calculate their movements and orbits whereby he would foretell the future. Lending credence to this news constituted a clue to their conviction that attached special significance to the movements of particular stars with regard to rainfall.

The belief in signs as betokening future events, was, of course common among the Arabians. Some days and months and particular animals were regarded as ominous. They also believed that the soul of a murdered person would fly in the wilderness and would never rest at rest until revenge was taken. Superstition was rampant. Should a deer or bird, when released, turn right then what they embarked on would be regarded auspicious, otherwise they would get pessimistic and withhold from pursuing it.

This is Prasna,Naimithika and Arul vaaku

People of pre-Islamic period, whilst believing in superstition, they still retained some of the Abrahamic traditions such as devotion to the Holy Sanctuary, circumambulation, observance of pilgrimage, the vigil on ‘Arafah and offering sacrifices, all of these were observed fully despite some innovations that adulterated these holy rituals. Quraish, for example, out of arrogance, feeling of superiority to other tribes and pride in their custodianship of the Sacred House, would refrain from going to ‘Arafah with the crowd, instead they would stop short at Muzdalifah. The Noble Qur’ân rebuked and told them:

“Then depart from the place whence all the people depart.” [2:199]

Another heresy, deeply established in their social tradition, dictated that they would not eat dried yoghurt or cooked fat, nor would they enter a tent made of camel hair or seek shade unless in a house of adobe bricks, so long as they were committed to the intention of pilgrimage. They also, out of a deeply-rooted misconception, denied pilgrims, other than Makkans, access to the food they had brought when they wanted to make pilgrimage or lesser pilgrimage.

They ordered pilgrims coming from outside Makkah to circumambulate Al-Ka‘bah in Quraish uniform clothes, but if they could not afford them, men were to do so in a state of nudity, and women with only some piece of cloth to hide their groins’

This portion reminds me of Tantra ,Kaaplika worship of Shiva, Shakti.

Reference and citation.
https://islamreigns.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/religions-of-the-arabs/

Essence Of Devotion Bhakti Twelve Azhwars of Tamil Overview

Goosebumps all over,Flowing Tears from the eyes,

Overflowing Bliss makes one lose one’s mind,

Failed words, all these make one lose balance,

If these be the Divinity of Abhirami Experience,may it be the Best’

Azhwars have also explained on similar forceful lines of Divine Experience.

Will be writing on them individually.


I have been blessed with friendships with some great personalities in the field Arts, Literature and Philosophy.

In the field of Arts I had the fortune of gaining the friendships of Poet Laureate,Kavignar Kannadasan ,who was a great Film Lyricist and a Classical Tamil poet.

And Ranganathan,called Vaali,Film Lyricist and a Tamil poet of great learning.

If Kannadasan’s lyrics ,poems drew from life,experience ,touched one’s heart,Vaali,touched you with imagery and the handling of Tamil language.

Once I asked Vaali as to how he could write such exquisite Lyrics,using slightly modified Classical Tamil and why he professes the Name of Subrahmanya,Murugan at all times,sports Kumkum on the forehead,despite him being Vaishnava.

To the second question he replied that Tamil was his passion and Murugan being identified with Tamil, he was fond of Murugan.

He also added that his song on Murugan’Karpanai Enraalum Karchilai enraalum Kandahar Unai Maraven,made him popular.

(Be it be said you are a figment of imagination,or be a Stone, Never will I forget you).

As to his mastery over Tamil he said that if one were to read the poems of Azhwars,Naalayira Divya Prabhandham,it is more than enough,though reading all Azhwars may take A Lifetime.

True.

If one were to look for Absolute Surrender to God,get immersed in Bhakti and could express the exquisite experience, it was Azhwars.

Nayanmars,the Devotees of Shiva also belong to this class.

What is this experience like?

Abhirami Bhattar ,in His Abhirami Andhadhi Describes thus,

விரும்பித் தொழும் அடியார்விழி நீர்மல்கி,

மெய்புளகம் அரும்பித் ததும்பிய ஆனந்தமாகி, அறிவிழந்து,

கரும்பிற் களித்து, மொழிதடு மாறி முன் சொன்ன எல்லாம்

தரும் பித்தர் ஆவரென்றால் அபிராமி சமயம் நன்றே.-94
Read More at: bhakthiplanet.com/2012/06/abirami-andhadhi-lyrics/ © BHAKTHIPLANET.COM

Goosebumps all over,Flowing Tears from the eyes,

Overflowing Bliss makes one lose one’s mind,

Failed words, all these make one lose balance,

If these be the Divinity of Abhirami Experience,may it be the Best’

Azhwars have also explained on similar forceful lines of Divine Experience.

Will be writing on them individually.

Azhwars represent total surrender,Saranagathi,echoing the Karna Mantra in The Bhagavad-Gita,

Sarvakarmmaan parithyasja,maameva Charanam vraja,

Aham thva sarvapaapebyo Mokkshamichaami ,Ma Sucha.

Azhwar surrenders thus,

ஊரிலேன் காணியில்லை உறவு மற்றொருவர் இல்லை

பாரில் நின் பாதமூலம் பற்றிலேன் பரம மூர்த்தி

காரொளி வண்ணனே என் கண்ணனே கதறுகின்றேன்

ஆருளர்க் களைகண் அம்மா அரங்க மாநகருளானே.

No place to Dwell,No Property to Own,

Nor do I have anyone,

Neither have I clung to Your Feet,

Krishna,hear my cries of Anguish,

Relieve me ,The One,who is at Srirangam.

And one Azhwar Even Blesses God Vishnu!

பல்லாண்டு பல்லாண்டு பல்லாயிரத்தாண்டு

பலகோடி நூறாயிரம்

மல்லாண்ட திண்தோள் மணிவண்ணா! உன்

சேவடி செவ்வித்திருக்காப்பு

May You Live for Over Thousands of Years,

Over many more,

One who with strong shoulders hardened over many a battle,

May I proceed by Praying your Feet

This item by Periyazhwar,father of Andal,who is also an Azhwar.

Lord Ranganatha married Andal,the adopted daughter of Periyazhwar.

So Vishnu is Azhwars Son in law.

It is traditional in Hinduism forefather in law to Bless thereon in law.

And Azhwar does that.

When?

As was and is the custom in Hinduism,the Bride and the Bridegroom, went around the town after marriage.

Now it has become the case of Reception before marriage!

The Bride was Andal and the Bridegroom,Lord Vishnu.

Place, Madurai.

So handsome were the couple that Father-in-law,Periyazhwar felt Evil Eye might be cast on Vishnu.

Hence this poem to Bless Vishnu?

Which Religion can relate to God at this Personal level?

Or that of a lover,Andal addressing Vishnu thus,

‘This Poem is recited twice when reciting Thiruppavai (Vagak kadla Kadaintha is also recited twice?

The meaning of the words/sentence in Italics convey more than what has been translated.

I am sure my readers can understand.

Tell me, which religion, or Devotee has the courage and conviction to address as Such?

By the way this is yet another Proof that Lord Krishna married the Pandyan Princess Nappinnai.’

There are twelve Azhwars.

The Term Azhwar means’ One who is immersed in’

The word azhwar has traditionally been etymologized as from Tamil. ‘Azh’ (ஆழ்), ‘to immerse oneself’ as ‘one who dives deep into the ocean of the countless attributes of god’ .However recently Indologist S.Palaniappan has shown that what was originally Āļvār (ஆள்வார்) meaning ‘One who rules’, or ‘(Spiritual) Master’ got changed through hypercorrection and folk etymology to Āzhvār (ஆழ்வார்) meaning ‘One who is immersed’.

There is another interpretation.

The term Azhwar can be written and spelled as ஆள்வார்.

This is is written as Alwar in English.

One who rules’ is the meaning.

This could be because the Alwars ruled Tamil Language or to mean ‘those who are immersed in Vishnu would Rule over Mokkshamichaami or Destiny.

Itlaics is my interpretation.

Palaniappan cites inscriptional evidence and even literary evidence from Vaisnhavaite tradition itself for a gradual sound change from āļvār to āzhvār over a period of two centuries from the 9th to the 11th century involving references to religious leaders in Vaishnavism, Shaivism and even Jainism and to political personalities. He states: “āzhvār is but a corrupt form of āļvār which has been used interchangeably with nāyanār in secular and religious contexts in the Tamil land” and “… Notwithstanding the Vaishnava claim of unbroken teacher-student tradition, the fact that Nathamuni has used the form āļvār but Piļļān [A disciple and younger cousin of Rāmānuja] ended up using the form āzhvār suggests that there has been an error in transmission somewhere along the teacher-student chain between the two teachers. This error was obviously due to the influence of the sound variation that has occurred in the Srirangam area and elsewhere”.

The original word ஆள்வார் compares with the epithet ‘Āṇḍãḷ’ ((ஆண்டாள்) for the female canonized Vaishnava saint Gōdai ((கோதை) and they share the same verb Tamil. āḷ ((ஆள்), the former being the honorific non-past (or present-future) form and the latter the feminine past form of that same verb.’

Dates of Alwars are,as usual in Indian History,are disputed,ranging from 4000 CE to 8 Century AD.

The twelve Azhwars List.

These Alwars were born in various parts of our country but they were all united in a common subject, ie dedicating their lives and praising the Lord.

Poigai Alwar, Bhoodath Alwar and Pei Alwar are collectively called as “Mudhal Alwars” were found in the same period of time.

Thirumazhisai Alwar, who thought the Perumal as his friend and has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal.

Thirumangai Alwar, who was a great king in his starting of life but later, changed his life to work for the Perumal and for his bhaktaas.

Thondaradippodi Alwar, who is also named as “Vipra Narayanar” led his life as the slave to the Perumal and worked for the Perumal by dedicating him with Garlands.

Thiruppaan Alwar, who belonged to the Paanar family, praised the Perumal through his beautiful songs and Paasurams.

Periyalwar, is considered as the Mother, Father for Sri Andal and Father-in-Law to Perumal has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal.

Sri Andal, who is also called as “Soodikkodutha Sudar Kodi” is said to be the daughter (brought up) of Periyalwar has created “Thiruppavai” in which she considers Sriman Naryanan as her husband. She is the only lady alwar.

Nammalwar, who sat below the Tamarind tree without having any food and sleep got Gnana and has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal and he has worked hard to spread Sri Vaishnavam.

Madhurakavi Alwar, who is said to be the Sishyan (Student) of Nammalwar is also one among 12 Alwars.

Kulasekara Alwar, have a great bhakti towards Sri Ramar have also done Mangalasasanam on the Perumal particularly in Malayala Naatu thriuppathigal.

Will be writing more on Azhwars ,their dates,works.

Reference and citation.

http://www.divyadesam.com/alwars.shtml

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvars

Brahmins’Eat From Produce from Unowned Property’ Brahmin Lifestyle Mahabharata

A Brahmin should eat on the fifth quarter of the day,

Never rich food,

Live near the banks of Rivers,

Eat vegetables,fruits and Roots grown in a property which is not owned by anyone.

He should know all subjects but practice only spirituality.


The definition of a Brahmin , a community of India which is ordained by the scriptures to realize the Self,spend entire lifetime learning the Vedas, teaching people of suitable disposition,perform Fire Rites,do the same for others,nevert others and never save for the morrow,is one ‘who realized the Self’

“Adhyaapanam Adhyayanam

Yajanam Yaajanam Tathaa

Daanam Pratigraham Chaiva

Brahmanaanaamakalpayaat”

Adyayanam-Pracctice of reciting the Vedas, with meaning.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/the-definition-of-brahminduties/

I have written on,

Who a Brahmin is and his duties,

History of Brahmins,

Their migration throughout the world,

Their Lineages.

The important question of what he should eat specifically and whether he should learn only the spritual aspects of the Vedas(Vedangas,a part or limb of the Vedas contain mundane subjects including the Art of Warfare), I have not been able to find.

Excepting the facts that,

He should eat food begotten by Alms,

He must refrain from Non Vegetarian food,

Should not drink,

Not covet other’s property,Aparigraha,

Pray for the welfare of the people,

Must not demand money for services save for what is offered to him.

Yet we find that Brahmins were eating Non vegetarian food,some do even now,

Were drinking till the time when Rishi Aurava/Sukracharya) forbade it ,

Demand Dakshina,Fees for services rendered.

I am now able to find authority on what a Brahmin should eat and what his Life style should be from Mahabharata Yaksha Prasna,where Yudhistra replies to a Yaksha.

A Brahmin should eat on the fifth quarter of the day,

Never rich food,

Live near the banks of Rivers,

Eat vegetables,fruits and Roots grown in a property which is not owned by anyone.

He should know all subjects but practice only spirituality.

The Brahmin has to wake up at four in the morning and bathe in cold water, rain or shine, warm or cold. Then, without a break, he has to perform one rite after another: sandhyavandana, Brahmayajna, aupasana, puja, vaisvadeva and one of the 21 sacrifices. If you sit before sacrificial fire for four days you will realise how difficult it is with all the heat and smoke. How many are the vows and the fasts the Brahmin has to keep and how many are the ritual baths….

…. Other castes do not have to go through such hardships. A Brahmin cannot eat “cold rice”in the morning like a peasant – he has no “right” to it. The dharmasastras are not created for his convenience or benefit, nor to ensure that he has a comfortable life. He would not have otherwise imposed on himself the performance of so many rites and a life of such rigorous discipline. When he has his daytime meal it will be 1 or 2. (On the day of a sraddha it will be three or four). This is the time the peasant will have his rest after his meal under a tree out in the field where he works. And the Brahmin’s meal, mind you, is as simple as the peasant’s. There is no difference between the humble dwelling of the peasant and that of the Brahmin. Both alike wear cotton. The peasant may save money for the future but not the Brahmin. He has no right either to borrow money or to live in style. …

In the “Yaksa-prasna” of the Mahabharata the simple life of Brahmin is referred to:

pancame’ hani saste va sakam pacati svegrhe
Anrni ca’ pravasi ca sa varicara modate

If daytime is divided into eight parts, the Brahmin may have his food only in the fifth or sixth part after performing all his rites. Before that he has neither any breakfast nor any snacks. And what does he eat? Not any rich food, no sweets like almonds crushed in sweetened milk. “Sakam pacati” – the Brahmin eats leafy vegetables growing on the banks of rivers, such areas being no one’s property. Why is he asked to live by the river side? It is for his frequent baths and for the leafy vegetables growing free there and for which he does not have to beg. He should not borrow money: that is the meaning of the word “anrni”, because if he developed the habit of borrowing he would be tempted to lead a life of luxury. Poverty and non-acquisitiveness (aparigraha) are his ideals. A Brahmin ought not to keep even a blade of grass in excess of his needs. …

The Brahmin must be conversant with the fourteen branches of the Vedic lore. He must be proficient even in Gandharva-veda or music and must be acquainted with agricultural science, construction of houses, etc. At the same time he must give instructions in these subjects to pupils from the appropriate castes. His own vocation is the study of the Vedas and he must have no other source of income. …

If the Brahmin is asked, “Do you know to wield a knife? ” he must be able to answer, “Yes, I know”. If he is asked, “Do you know to draw and paint” again he must (be able to) say, “Yes”. But he cannot wield a knife or become an artist to earn his livelihood. All he can do is to learn these arts and teach others the same according to their caste. He is permitted to receive a daksina to maintain himself and he must be contented with it however small the sum may be. The Brahmin’s specialty is his true vocation is Vedic learning.

… The goal of Vedic works is the happiness of all mankind, indeed the happiness of all the worlds (“Lokah samastah sukino bhavanthu”). The sound of the Vedas creates universal well-being, so too Vedic sacrifices. … Brahmins would be committing a sin if they gave up Vedic rituals and earned money by doing other types of work.

Kanchi Paramacharya quoting Yaksha Prasna

Ramanis Posts ‘Outrageous’?

But people do trust blindly history of Christ,Prophet,whose existence is not proved as scientifically as Rama’s or Krishna’s.

They take Bible as Gospel,which was complied three hundred years after the supposed Christ,by Constantine for political purposes.

Not the Vedas,which are dated by Etymology,references in Foreign sources of that time or immediately after that.


I received an an interesting comment on my article

‘Abraham Descendant of Brahmins, Kashmir Kaul

‘I have been reading your blog posts forvthe past six months but this post is outrageous. Just because some sounds are similar that does not account vfor ancestry’

I receive a lot of comments,most of them complimentary.

But I value comments like the one above.

True,most of my findings seem outrageous even to me.

But the evidence is compelling.

In the post referred to, I can state that if one were to read all my articles,this article may not be surprising.

The Arabian civilization borrowed from Mesapotamia,and Hitties.

Most of us might not even heard of these ancient civilizations because they are not taught in schools.

These civilizations are traced back to the Tamils and Sanatana Dharma.

These civilizations had extensive trade relations with India and Tamils.

Thirty thousand year old Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu had trade relations with Greece.

That it is thirty thousand year old is not my finding.

It is by Archeolgists.

Krishna’s Dwaraka is dated 32,000 years.

Agastya moved from the North to South,crossing the Vindhyas around 5100 BC and this corresponds to Lord Rama’s Date.

Jwalapuram,Cuddapa,Andhra Pradesh is dated 74,000 years ago.

Early Roman settlements have been excavated near Madurai,Tamil Nadu.

Lord Vishnu’s Idol  was unearthed in Russia.

It is dated before Christ was thought of.

The Construction of Chichen Itza resembles Madurai Meenakshi temple.

Roman Emperors with Sri Vaishnavas are found in Egypt.

Australia provides evidence of ancient people with Vaishnava Marks.

Cookes Island,New Zealand,Nazca Lines of Peru are accurately described in the Kishkinta Kanda of Ramayana.

So are Wormholes described in the Ramayana.

Thirty nine archeological sites have been found in India that prove Mahabharata.

Ramayana landmarks described by Valmiki are exactky the same even today!

Greek Historians Strabo,Megasthanes describe Krishna and Shiva concepts having been appropriated and modified by Greeks.

Rig Veda is dated at 5000 years ago and is considered as the First Literary Work Of The World.

The first two lines of Purusha Smitha,A Vedic Mantra,when properly understood produces Electricity.A Bangalore Company is producing Batteries on this principles.

Pi Value was found by Indians.

Pi value is found in a prayer to Krishna.

Korean Queen was from Ayodhya.

Chatur Veda is found in Vietnam.

Cambodia had Hindu Temole Angkor Vat.

Siberians worship Ayur Devatas of Hinduism.

Australian tribes perform Shiva Trinetra Dance even today.

Aerial view of St.Peters ,Vatican looks like Shiva Linga with Base,Avudayar.

Kublai Khan consecrated a Shiva Temple in Mangolia.

Look at the architecture of Hindu temples.

Sculptures that look as Man in the frontal view and woman from behind,

Idols that change colors once a fortnight,five times a day,

Water drips on the Idol from somewhere which has no water source,

Idols that seem to look only at you,

Stone pillars that make basic seven notes of Carnatic Music,

Stone pillar that supports Roof does not rest on the ground,

Sun’s Rays fall on the Idol on a specific day:Specific Time,

Five Shiva Temples aligned at the same longitude,

Out of 23 Geometrically aligned sacred sites of the world,seven beling to Hinduism and the others converted from Hinduism,

Gayatri Mantra produces Sri Yantra,

Chamaka explains DNA strands…

The list is endless.

Sounds outrageous.

Yes.

But proved.

But people do trust blindly history of Christ,Prophet,whose existence is not proved as scientifically as Rama’s or Krishna’s.

They take Bible as Gospel,which was complied three hundred years after the supposed Christ,by Constantine for political purposes.

Not the Vedas,which are dated by Etymology,references in Foreign sources of that time or immediately after that.

This statement is by the West.

Such is our Slavish mentality and contempt for our Culture and History imposed by Invaders and Colonialists, we refuse our hoary past and brand ourselves Liberals to seek acceptance by the West.

For such intellectual giants, I have provided sources whom they adore,the West, in my articles.

Less of Indian sources.

But,

I shall continue my journey of ‘outrageous posts’, so long as they remain disproved, ridicules notwithstanding.

:Asato Ma Sat Gamaya, lead me from Untruth to Truth’

Posts on Pre Islamic Religion and Practices follow.

For more Outrageous Posts Part 1, 41 articles

 

Abraham Descendant Of Indian Kashmiri Brahmins Kaul

The Brahmins of India are a Priestly Class,advisors to Kings and the Devout Jews are King among Priests.

The Nondualistic Concept,Advaitha is found in the Vedas.

Swasthika,a Hindu Symbol of Auspiciousness is found in Judaism.
The so-called Jewish Star which is the emblem of the Jews is a Tantric, Vedic symbol. It consists of two, interlocked triangles with the apex of one facing North and the other South. This symbol is drawn in front of every
orthodox Hindu home in stone-powder design every morning after the house is washed. The desing/drawing is known as Rangawali alias Rongoli. Even its name David is the Sanskrit word Devi, i.e., ” bestowed by the Mother


There are a lot of similarities between Judaism,Jews and Hinduism and Brahmins.

The Brahmins of India are a Priestly Class,advisors to Kings and the Devout Jews are King among Priests.

The Nondualistic Concept,Advaitha is found in the Vedas.

Swasthika,a Hindu Symbol of Auspiciousness is found in Judaism.
The so-called Jewish Star which is the emblem of the Jews is a Tantric, Vedic symbol. It consists of two, interlocked triangles with the apex of one facing North and the other South. This symbol is drawn in front of every
orthodox Hindu home in stone-powder design every morning after the house is washed. The desing/drawing is known as Rangawali alias Rongoli. Even its name David is the Sanskrit word Devi, i.e., ” bestowed by the Mother
Goddess.” The so-called Humayun tomb building in Delhi, which was a Goddess temple, is inlaid with those emblems on the exterior, upper portions of its walls.

Manu is Noah Yayati Yahuda
1000 years before the Hebrews arrived in Israel, the Cannanites erected a temple to worship the god on the hill now known as the Hill of the Nativity in the town of Beit Lachama. Beit Lachama was fertile and had a good water supply. When the Jews came in they would naturally not worship the Canan god Lachma and the distortion of interpretations began.

Lakshmi Pre Jewish Canaanite God

‘One of the major triumphs of modern archaeology was the hair-raising discoveries of Sir Leonard Woolley at Ur. Amidst the ruins of Ur, he unearthed a Ram-chapel but totally missed its relevance in world history. This crucial finding not only bridges the wide gaps between Indian tradition and archaeology but also unfolds the historic bonds that once united ancient India, Iran and Sumer. Ram-Sin of (Larsa) to whose memory this chapel was dedicated must have been Rama of Valmiki. The name Ararama of Larsa may be an echo of Rama. This Ram-Chapel of Ur is the earliest known memorial to the great Rama and may have been erected by Dilmun merchants who resided nearby. Dilmun was always mentioned in the Sumerian texts together with Magan and Melukkha and it is possible that these three states were somehow allied to each other.’

Rama’s Chapel Iraq

There is information that Abraham,common to Judaism,Christianity and Islam seems to have descended from Kauls,A Brahmin sub group from Kashmir.

I have written on the origin of Bacterian Kingdom from Bharatavarsha.

People of what is now called Russia are from the Uttarakuru region of Bharatavarsha and they were from the Kuru Dynasty.

The Kauls hail from Kashmir and Kashmir is named after Sage Kasyapa, Saptharishi.

They were/are worshippers of Shiva and Devi(Shakti)

In his History of the Jews, the Jewish scholar and theologian Flavius Josephus (37 – 100 A.D.), wrote that the Greek philosopher Aristotle had said: “…These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani.” (Book I:22.)

Clearchus of Soli wrote, “The Jews descend from the philosophers of India. The philosophers are called in India Calanians and in Syria Jews. The name of their capital is very difficult to pronounce. It is called ‘Jerusalem.'”

“Megasthenes, who was sent to India by Seleucus Nicator, about three hundred years before Christ, and whose accounts from new inquiries are every day acquiring additional credit, says that the Jews ‘were an Indian tribe or sect called Kalani…'” (Anacalypsis, by Godfrey Higgins, Vol. I; p. 400.)

Martin Haug, Ph.D., wrote in The Sacred Language, Writings, and Religions of the Parsis, “The Magi are said to have called their religion Kesh-î-Ibrahim.They traced their religious books to Abraham, who was believed to have brought them from heaven.” (p. 16.)

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In his book Moisés y los Extraterrestres, Mexican author Tomás Doreste states,

Voltaire was of the opinion that Abraham descended from some of the numerous Brahman priests who left India to spread their teachings throughout the world; and in support of his thesis he presented the following elements: the similarity of names and the fact that the city of Ur, land of the patriarchs, was near the border of Persia, the road to India, where that Brahman had been born.

The name of Brahma was highly respected in India, and his influence spread throughout Persia as far as the lands bathed by the rivers Euphrates and Tigris. The Persians adopted Brahma and made him their own. Later they would say that the God arrived from Bactria, a mountainous region situated midway on the road to India. (pp. 46-47.)

Bactria (a region of ancient Afghanistan) was the locality of a prototypical Jewish nation called Juhuda or Jaguda, also called Ur-Jaguda. Ur meant “place or town.” Therefore, the bible was correct in stating that Abraham came from “Ur of the Chaldeans.” “Chaldean,” more correctly Kaul-Deva (Holy Kauls), was not the name of a specific ethnicity but the title of an ancient Hindu Brahmanical priestly caste who lived in what are now Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Indian state of Kashmir.

“The tribe of Ioud or the Brahmin Abraham, was expelled from or left the Maturea of the kingdom of Oude in India and, settling in Goshen, or the house of the Sun or Heliopolis in Egypt, gave it the name of the place which they had left in India, Maturea.” (Anacalypsis; Vol. I, p. 405.)

“He was of the religion or sect of Persia, and of Melchizedek.”(Vol. I, p. 364.)

“The Persians also claim Ibrahim, i.e. Abraham, for their founder, as well as the Jews. Thus we see that according to all ancient history the Persians, the Jews, and the Arabians are descendants of Abraham.(p.85) …We are told that Terah, the father of Abraham, originally came from an Eastern country called Ur, of the Chaldees or Culdees, to dwell in a district called Mesopotamia. Some time after he had dwelt there, Abraham, or Abram, or Brahma, and his wife Sara or Sarai, or Sara-iswati, left their father’s family and came into Canaan. The identity of Abraham and Sara with Brahma and Saraiswati was first pointed out by the Jesuit missionaries.”(Vol. I; p. 387.)

Reference and citation.

http://www.hermetics.org/Abraham2.html

Moolavar And Utsavar Idols In Pre Islamic Worship,Wathan, Sanam

The Agamas ,which rose later to the Vedas lay down rules for building temples and methods of worship in Temples.

For details on Agamas,why many Gods in Hinduism,please read my articles on the same names.


When we follow the evolution of thought in Religions,one can see a gradual development of Spirituality.

Man first feared Nature and worshipped it’s different aspects.

He assigned them super human powers.

He was scared of Fire,Water,Rains, Thunderbolt, Earthquakes.

He feared them ,appeased them and sought relief.

There were as many Gods as one feared.

On the other hand,when he found benevolent things in Nature,he included them also in the list of God’s.

The practice of worshipping many Gods is called Polytheism.

Hinduism has one essential difference while moving on from Polytheism.

One would find that One God is praised,while others are relegated to secondary or tertiary places in worship.

Thus we find Shiva worshipped as the Supreme Deity and other Deities pushed to secondary places.

The same with Vishnu,Brahma,Agni,Vaayu,Devi,Agni and others.

This practice of praising one God and pushing others back is called Henotheism.

Hinduism ultimately reached Monism,Non Dualism and Qualified Non Dualism,

But this article is on Polytheism.

Here many Gods are worshipped.

Though the Vedas do not advocate Idol worship ,Temple worship, they are followed nevertheless.

This practice was regulated by the Agamas,that is worship in Temples.

The Agamas ,which rose later to the Vedas lay down rules for building temples and methods of worship in Temples.

For details on Agamas,why many Gods in Hinduism,please read my articles on the same names.

In temple worship,one finds Presiding Deity, Moolavar and another Deity for taking out during auspicious occasions.

Thaayar,Varadaraja perumal,Kanchipuram.Moolavar and Utsavar.image
Thaayar,Varadaraja perumal,Kanchipuram.Moolavar and Utsavar

All poojas are performed first to the Presiding Deity Moolavar and then to the Utsavar.

This concept is unique to Hinduism.

While checking up the history of Pre Islamic Polytheism and method of worship, one finds that the Pre Islamic Deities were worshipped in the same way as that of Hindus in Temples,that is they had Moolavar and Utsavar.

Yet another proof of Hinduism being the forerunner of Pre Islamic Religion.

‘The pre-Islamic Arab religion was polytheistic, venerating many deities and spirits through statues, baetylus and natural phenomena. According to the Book of Idols, there are two known types of statues; idols (sanam) and images (wathan). If a statue was made of wood, gold, or silver, after a human form, it would be an idol, but if the statue was made of stone, it would be an image.

Reference and citation.

al-Kalbi, Ibn. The Book of Idols (1952 Nabih Amin Faris translation). pp. 12–13.

Bhoomi Pooja House Building Ceremony Ancient Rome Vishnu Temple Complex

That description is taken from page XXIV of the Introduction to the volume titled Rome and the Campagna by R. Burn (Deighton, Bell & Co., London, 1871).

Those square gateways are a Hindu feature. They may be seen in almost every historic mansion in India. In fact, we would like to suggest a slight amendment. It may probably have escaped the notice of the above-mentioned author Robert Burn (Fellow and Tutor at Trinity College, Cambridge, U.K.) that the gateways have a subtle octagonal feature about them. In the interior, every corner usually has some kind of a joint, which gives it the appearance of a twin, turning the square into an octagon.


I have written on the connection between Sanatana Dharma and Italy.

On,

Rome was founded on Rama Navami April 27, 753 BC

Hindu Kings of Italy Iraq Turkey Syria Labanon

Lakshmi in Pompeii 83 BC

First Pyramid Builder Roman Emperor With Vaishnava Marks

Sharada Devi in Sardinia

Lombardi Indian DNA connection

Vatican Aerial view View Shiva Linga At.Peters Square.

Now more on this Italian connection.

The name Vishnu is pronounced as Vistu even in India, and so it used to be pronounced in Europe. Therefore Vestal Virgins in Rome were girls dedicated to Lord Vishnu.

The entire terminology associated with ancient historic Rome will be found to be Vedic, Sanskrit. The Ventine hill under the monastery of St. Saba derives its name from Avanti, a famous ancient city in India. The monstery of Saba is an ancient Shiva temple. The Paletine Hill in Rome is the counterpart of Palitana, a city in the Saurashtra region of India noted for its hill covered with numerous temples.

At Rome, the vault of the old well-house of the capitol is called the Tullianum. Such well-houses are a common feature of ancient Hindu temples and palaces. They may still be seen in Lucknow, in the Tejo Mahalaya (alias Taj Mahal) temple palace in Agra, and in Ashoka’s palace (wrongly called Ferozshah Kotla) in Delhi and in several other princely capitols. Such well-houses are known as Baoli-Mahals in Hindu parlance.

“The gates of Roma Quadrata on the Palatine were not bare openings in the line of wall but consisted of a square chamber with two doors, one opening inwards and the other outwards. The temple of Janus was a modification of such a gateway chamber.”

That description is taken from page XXIV of the Introduction to the volume titled Rome and the Campagna by R. Burn (Deighton, Bell & Co., London, 1871).

Those square gateways are a Hindu feature. They may be seen in almost every historic mansion in India. In fact, we would like to suggest a slight amendment. It may probably have escaped the notice of the above-mentioned author Robert Burn (Fellow and Tutor at Trinity College, Cambridge, U.K.) that the gateways have a subtle octagonal feature about them. In the interior, every corner usually has some kind of a joint, which gives it the appearance of a twin, turning the square into an octagon.
GaneshGanesh receives homage at the entrance before one enters the sanctum to worship the main deity.

The western side of the Tiber Valley in Rome is bounded by Vatican Hill and the long ridge of the Janiculum.

The Vatican is the Sanskrit name Vatica, i.e. Vedic hermitage. The term Janiculum is the Sanskrit term Ganesalayam, i.e. a temple of Lord Ganesh.

The Capitoline Hill and the Janiculum Hill are opposite to each other. In between them flows the Tiber. On both those hills were temples of Vedic deities. On the Capitoline was the temple of Saturn, and on the Janiculum was that of Ganesh.

Thus, as in the Kaaba (Mecca), in Rome too, Lord Vishnu was surrounded by a number of other deities.

“…Historians and poets of Imperial Rome give us a description of the solemn ceremony observed on the occasion of marking out the limits of a new settlement…. a bull and a cow were yoked together, the cow being placed on the inner side, a furrow was made with a plough round the proposed site. This was done on a lucky day to satisfy religious scruples….”

This procedure of choosing an auspicious day with reference to astrology and breaking the ground for a new city with a plough drawn by kine is Vedic practice. As late as the early 17th century, Shivaji, a Maratha ruler of India, adopted the same procedure when he first arrived in Pune city to look after his fief. He had the land furrowed with a gold-tipped plough.

The Arch of Constantine in Rome is a triple archway with a tall arch in the centre, flanked by two smaller arches. This also is a common sight in India.

“The temple of Hercules Victor was pulled down under Sixtus IV. The statue of Hercules in bronze now in the capitol was found there,” records R. Burn.

Hercules is the Sanskrit term Heri-cul-eesh, meaning the Lord of the clan of Hari, i.e. Vishnu alias Krishna. The term Hercules Victor is the Sanskrit term Hari-Vijay.

Forum Romanum is the ancientmost part of Rome. Romanum is Ramayanam, obviously because that was the central point around which the city of Rama was erected.

“The longer side of this piazza measured about 200 yards. … Round this confined space were grouped the most important buildings of Republican Rome, the temples of the most ancient and venerated gods, the senate hose, the Comitium and the Rostra. … The House of the Pontifex Maximus was a little further along the sacred way (Summae Sacra Via) and was called the Regia, the Atrium Regium or the Atrium Vestae. This Regia was the house of the Pontifex… The sacred spears of the God Mars were kept there….”

The above is a very important passage. It pinpoints the sacred Vedic core of the ancient city of Rome. The city itself was named after Rama, an incarnation of Vishnu, alias Vishtu. Therefore the highway leading from it to the temple was known as the Regia, i.e. “royal way” i.e. Raja Marg in Sanskrit. It was also known as Vestae from Vishnu and Atrium from sage Atri. Ancient Italy was known as Etruria and its civilization was known as Etruscan civilization, and the sea to its east is known as the Adriatic Sea—all from the Vedic sage Atri, who had his Vedic establishment in Rome in remote antiquity. The office of the Pontifex Maximus, that is the chief priest of the Vishnu temple complex in Rome, originates from sage Atri. The Sanskrit term Pantah Mahan has been corrupted to Pontifex Maximus in Latin. His house was naturally a part of this great temple complex, presided over by Lord Vishnu. And as at the Kaaba in Mecca, in Rome too Vishnu was surrounded by the other deities such as His incarnations Rama and Krishna and planetary deities such as Saturn and Mars.

The Italian word “Via” for highway is a truncated form of the Sanskrit term Veethi.

The chief priest (the Pontifex Maximus) was from the time of Constantine forced to call himself a Christian priest. Maximus is the Sanskrit term Mahattamas, i.e. “the topmost”.

Reference and citation.

http://hindureligionn.blogspot.in/search?updated-max=2013-12-10T14:56:00%2B05:30&max-results=20&reverse-paginate=true&start=14&by-date=false


1. — p.1, Preface to A Complete History of the Druids, Their Origins, Manners, Customs, Powers, Temples, Rites and Superstitions, with an Inquiry into Their Religion and Its Coincidence with the Patriarch by Lichfield, printer T.G. Lomax, marketed by Longman, Hurst, Rees and Orms, London Back to text
2. — p.31, Rome and the Campagna by R. Burn
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