Million Year Proven History Of India A Lie? No. Details

The dating of Ramayana based on Astronomy ,Flora and Fauna descriptions found in the Valmiki Ramayana pushes its date to million years.

Hindu texts mention Ramayana date to be in Treta Yuga,which is agreement with Million year dating.

The same with Mahabharata which took place around six thousand years ago,Dwapara Yuga.

The remains of Dwaraka city has been dated now at 32,000 years.

The Indian language is dated around two thousand years ago.


Timeline of Indian History is staggering and unbelievable.

Ramayana,one of the two great Epics of India is now dated around 5114 BC.

The dating of Ramayana based on Astronomy ,Flora and Fauna descriptions found in the Valmiki Ramayana,pushes its date to million years.

Hindu texts mention Ramayana date to be in Treta Yuga,which is agreement with Million year dating.

The same with Mahabharata which took place around six thousand years ago,Dwapara Yuga.

The remains of Dwaraka city has been dated now at 32,000 years.

And one finds the deaths of Lord Rama and Krishna are separated by only 200 years!

But according to Purchase, these two events were separated by about a Million years!

The Indian language  Tamil is dated around two thousand years ago.

The remains of the city of Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu pushes the date to 11,000 years ago.

This is based on ocean floor mapping and carbon dating.

We find Million year old Kannada Brahmi script in Karnataka.

Bengal is dated over 25000 years ,so is Thiruvananthapuram,Kerala,India.

Thiruvannamalai is dated 3.94 Billion years.

Thirupathi 2100 Million years.

The point is that all the above conclusions are based from scientific study using advanced methods and equipments in Astronomy,Geology,Infra Red ,Sea floor Mapping,Study of Glaciers and Tectonic shifts.


If we accept these dates,then we have to discard the present history taught on Evolution,Geology and Anthropology,because during the dates mentioned as Million years the earth was hot and there could have been no life.

But more evidence compels one to rethink the present history taught.

Obviously either the world evolved much later as is being taught,or that it  evolved over millions of years  earlier ,as revealed by Hindu texts.

Interestingly the Age of Earth as explained in Hindu texts is accepted by Geology,that is over a three billion years ago .

The civilization called Hindu existed as found in Vedic texts.

Which is true?

One has to understand the concept of Time and the inadequacy of our Knowledge and Equipments.

Carbin dating is useless for dating objects over 50,000 years.

Infra red,Geo Mapping, Tectonic study become useless for Atomic blasts allter the atmosphere and our readings from them are fallacious.

To our knowledge ,there has been an Atomic blast in Hiroshima and Nagasaki during Second World War.

We know countries have been conducting Nuclear tests.

So the evidence from these sources are,as stated earlier, are not reliable.

So what is the truth?

This drives one to the Concept of Time.

We consider Time as Linear.

That is Time moves forward and in a straight line.

That is we have yesterday,today and tomorrow.

Can we say when a day ends and a new day begins?

We have kept 12 midnight as the end of one day and the beginning of a New Day.


If we had kept 10 am  instead of 12 midnight what will happen?


We will be beginning the new day at 10am.

Then what happened to this 12 ‘o’ clock business?


It never was, nor has it disappeared.

It is only our way of understanding Time by imagining and fixing a cut off time to mark the passage of Time.

Then we have different Time Zones in the world and some Nations have more than one ,for instance the US.

Which is the correct Time?

The Time where we Live is taken as the correct Time for our Environment.

So our conception of Time is Relative.

This is the concept of Time as Linear.

In absolute terms there is no beginning for/of Time or Space.

Our Mind is not equipped to understand them as they Are.

Space and Time are the two spectacles through which we Perceive anything.

You can never think of anything without referring these,Time and Space.

So in Absolute terms Time and Space can not even be imagined.

For instance the diameter of Large Cluster Galaxies.

Their diameter is about 200 to 300 Crore Light years!

That is 3000000000* the velocity of Light!

( light velocity Kilo meters per Hour 1080 million (1.08×109)!

That we can not imagine it,does not alter the fact.

So what we understand is limited.

This applies to everything in the Universe.

So what is the Truth?

Time is beginningless ,endless.

It is indescribable.


We know it is there but can not describe it.

Much less understand It.

When we Perceive,our Perception is limited to/by our senses.

We Perceive what we can.

As there are many indiduals,so are Perceptions.

But our Mind categorises different perceptions of different people,assigns a general frame of1 reference which we accept as acceptable.

This is to help the organism to Survive.

From the point of view of the individual,The Limitless Time,Time,in the view of the Perceiver,recoils Itself.

That Time is an endless cycle,a continuous Flow,

That there is no past,present and Futre.

All are either present or All are absent.

In which case what has happened,continues to happen and will happen.

So events that happened continue to happen to day and will happen in future.

In common terms ,as an example,Ramayana,if it had happened is Happening now and will Happen tomorrow.

And all of them at the same Time.

This depends on the Perceiver.

Where and how?

Quantum mechanics has just proved that,

An Atom can be present at more places than one At the Same Time,

When you Perceive a thing yoy Alter it and it Alters you,

That is one can be present at many places at the same Time.

That is the dates arrived at for Ramayana, Mahabharata and other history by Indian Texs are true.

Yet seem to be anamolies by our understanding.

This is Hindu Thought and Advaita.

Everything is Illusory ,yet at the same time Real for the Time Frame in which they are Perceived.

That Everything never was,is Buddhism,Sunyavada.

Absolute Time Relative Time Bharatvaja Newton Einstein Agree Details. 

So you shall be dividing the Space between A and B INFINITELY.
This means you will be traveling from A to B INFINITELY.
This means Motion or in this case Travel is Infinite.
IT other words you will never reach Bangalore.
This impasse was solved by Sage Bharatwaja in

These are two concepts that are yet to be clearly understood or defined.

What we now have of them are descriptions at the most in various forms, some of them in the form of Formulae.

To understand what time is let us look at two examples.

1.Let us imagine that we are travelling to Bangalore from Chennai by car.

For easy calculations let us assume the distance between them is 500 miles.

If we travel @ 500 miles per hour we shall reach Bangalore from Chennai.

If the speed is 1000 miles, we shall reach in half an hour.

If it is 2000 miles we will reach in fifteen minutes.

If it is 8 000 miles, we will reach in 3.75 minutes.

At this rate at a particular speed we shall be reaching Bangalore before we left Bangalore.

At the rate of 128000 miles per hour we would reach Bangalore  in. 0039 seconds!

The calculation.



If we extend this logic, we would at a point of speed will be reaching Bangalore before we leave/left Chennai!

That is Time runs backwards.

Einstein, unable to solve the issue in his earlier years declared that nothing can travel faster than Light and if it does, it is not Matter.

Later he revised his views.

But notwithstanding this explanation the question remains.

Another illustration.

Let us imagine that an object has to Travel from point A to B.

Before reaching B from point A you should cross half the distance between A and B.

Let’s call it C.

To reach from A to C  one should pass half the distance between A and C

Call it D.

To reach from A to C, you have to cross half the distance from A and D.

Now remember, Space is infinitely Divisible.

So you shall be dividing the Space between A and B INFINITELY.

This means you will be traveling from A to B INFINITELY.

This means Motion or in this case Travel is Infinite.

IT other words you will never reach Bangalore.

This impasse was solved by Sage Bharatwaja in his work Amritbhoshini.

He distinguishes betwee two classes of Time.

Absolute and Relative.

Absolute Time belongs to a higher plane.

That of Reality where Time is Absolute.

Time as Vedas describe is an aspect of Brahman, the Reality.

The other concept of Time is what we use daily.

IT is Relative Time.

This Time is used when the Nirguna , Beyond Attributes, evolved into Saguna Brahman, the world of Names and Forms.

This is what Bharatwaja says.

Vachya, the Absolute Time, coexistant with Brahman, the Reality and

Avachar, Relative Time of Saguna Brahman, the world of Names and Forms.

This has been stated by him in his work Amshu Bodhini.

This is a book of Aphorisms, Sutra.

The same Thought was expressed by Sage Parashurama in his work Antha Kausthuba Sastra.

I have been able to find a list on this topic along with higher mathematics.

They are twenty four in number.

Shall be writing on these books and the Sutra with explanation.

Now let’s see What Newton, and Einstein have to say on Absolute Time.

Originally introduced by Sir Isaac Newton in Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica, the concepts of absolute time and space provided a theoretical foundation that facilitated Newtonian mechanics.[3] According to Newton, absolute time and space respectively are independent aspects of objective reality:[4]
Absolute, true and mathematical time, of itself, and from its own nature flows equably without regard to anything external, and by another name is called duration: relative, apparent and common time, is some sensible and external (whether accurate or unequable) measure of duration by the means of motion, which is commonly used instead of true time …
According to Newton, absolute time exists independently of any perceiver and progresses at a consistent pace throughout the universe. Unlike relative time, Newton believed absolute time was imperceptible and could only be understood mathematically. According to Newton, humans are only capable of perceiving relative time, which is a measurement of perceivable objects in motion (like the Moon or Sun). From these movements, we infer the passage of time.
Absolute space, in its own nature, without regard to anything external, remains always similar and immovable. Relative space is some movable dimension or measure of the absolute spaces; which our senses determine by its position to bodies: and which is vulgarly taken for immovable space … Absolute motion is the translation of a body from one absolute place into another: and relative motion, the translation from one relative place into another …

— Isaac Newton

Quoted below from his later papers, Einstein identified the term aether with “properties of space”, a terminology that is not widely used. Einstein stated that in general relativity the “aether” is not absolute anymore, as the geodesic and therefore the structure of spacetime depends on the presence of matter.[13]
To deny the ether is ultimately to assume that empty space has no physical qualities whatever. The fundamental facts of mechanics do not harmonize with this view. For the mechanical behaviour of a corporeal system hovering freely in empty space depends not only on relative positions (distances) and relative velocities, but also on its state of rotation, which physically may be taken as a characteristic not appertaining to the system in itself. In order to be able to look upon the rotation of the system, at least formally, as something real, Newton objectivises space. Since he classes his absolute space together with real things, for him rotation relative to an absolute space is also something real. Newton might no less well have called his absolute space “Ether”; what is essential is merely that besides observable objects, another thing, which is not perceptible, must be looked upon as real, to enable acceleration or rotation to be looked upon as something real.

— Albert Einstein, Ether and the Theory of Relativity (1920)[14]’

Reference and Citation.

# Explanation of the Featured Image.

Two spheres orbiting around an axis. The spheres are distant enough for their effects on each other to be ignored, and they are held together by a rope. The rope is under tension if the bodies are rotating relative to absolute space according to Newton, or because they rotate relative to the universe itself according to Mach, or because they rotate relative to local geodesics according to general relativity.

England Followed Hindu Vikrama Saka Calendar Before 1752?

Which Calendar did people use before Julian Calendar?

There have been two methods.

One based on the movement of the Sun,Solar Calendar.


The other is based on the movement of the Moon,Lunar Calendar

The Solar Calendar is called Surya Maanasa and the Lunar,Chandra Manasa.

Both are in vogue in India.

There are some more caledars based on important events ,like King Vikramaditya’s reign.

There are,

Hindu ,




Bengali and

Nana Sakhi.

While India has been traditionally following either the Solar or Lunar Calendars, in the West,there has been confusion galore.


In India,though two primary Calendars,Solar and Lunar, for religious purposes to fix the Nakshatra ,the Solar Calendar is followed because the Sun was recognised as a Star by ancient Hindus and for Thithi,which deals with the movement of the Moon is followed.

As mentioned at the beginning of this article, there is also a Vikrama Calendar,Vikrama Samvatsara.

The curious fact is that England, Wales and Scotland were following the Vikrama Samvatsara till 1752 when they changed it.

Yet another proof of India having once ruled England is the fact that until 1752 A.D. the English New Year began on March 25.

That is the exact time of the year when the Indian New Year begins.

In 1752 by an act of Parliament England arbitrarily changed over to January 1 as the New Year Day.

As March 25 marks the beginning of the Indian Vikram Samvat it is plausible that England was part of Vikramaditya’s Indian empire.

Please read my article Vikramaditya Date and His World Kingdom

Reference and citations.

Beginning in 1582, the Gregorian calendar replaced the Julian in Catholic countries.

This change was also implemented in Protestant and Orthodox countries some time later.

In England and Wales, Ireland, and the British colonies, the change of the start of the year and the changeover from the Julian calendar occurred in 1752 under the Calendar (New Style) Act 1750.
From the 12th century to 1752, the civil or legal year in England began on 25 March (Lady Day) so for example the execution of Charles I was recorded at the time in Parliament as happening on 30 January 1648 (Old Style).

Vikram Samvat or Bikram Samvat is a calendar era used in a Hindu calendar.

It uses lunar months and solar sidereal year.

The new year begins with the first day after the new moon, in the month of Chaitra, Chaitra Shuddha 1 or Chaitra Shukla Paksha Prathama; which usually falls in March–April in the Gregorian calendar.

The Vikrama Samvat is said to have been founded by the legendary Indian king Vikramaditya, variously considered to be a partly historical figure or a purely mythical character.

According to the popular tradition, Vikramaditya started the Vikrama Samvat era in 57 BCE, after defeating the Shakas.

For this reason, those who believe him to be based on a distinct historical figure place him around the 1st century BCE.

However, this era is mentioned as “Vikrama Samvat” only after the 9th century CE.

When Did Kali Yuga Begin

Kali yuga is reported to have begun after the departure of Lord Krishna and after Yuga Sandhi.

Yuga Sandhi is the Interregnum is the period between two yugas.

When did Kali Yuga begin?

Indians follow an almanac system based on

Indian texts texts speak of Time as one continuous flow, that it is Cyclic and Non Linear.

That is Time flows in a Circle and Time recoils on itself.

There are four Aeons, Yugas.

Krutha or Satya Yuga,

Tretha Yuga, when Rama lived,

Dwapara Yuga, when Krishna lived and  the present one in which we are living


Time in Hinduism is Cyclic
Time in Hinduism. Yugas



Image credit.

By Ingo Kappler –Inka 23:32, 8 May 2005 (UTC) – Own work, CC BY-SA 2.0 de,

The Mahabharata  War took place towards the closing years of the Dwapara yuga.

Kali yuga is reported to have begun after the departure of Lord Krishna and after Yuga Sandhi.

Yuga Sandhi is the Interregnum  is the period between two yugas.

When did Kali Yuga begin?

Indians follow an almanac system based on the movement of the Sun and Moon.

Time is divided into finest parts and large numbers are also discussed..

This Almanac is called Panchanga s it takes into account five factors,Pancha means Five.

The Five are,

Thithi, waxing and waning of the Moon,

Vaara, Day,

Nakshatra, Stars and their Movements,

Yoga,  a specific time of the day which indicates auspiciousness or otherwise and

Karana, yet another parameter of time to calculate auspiciousness.

The Panchanga is used by the Hindus daily to find out the auspicious dates.,movement of the Moon.

The Panchanga is read at the beginning of a year.

Panchanga predicts, among other things like natural calamities, general world status, weather.

And it predicts the Eclipses so accurately which tallies with modern scientific  calculations.

Based on the Panchanga , the date when Kali Yuga began is arrived at.

This is how it has been done.


The description is detailed to year-month-days of each and every king who ruled. By adding the total number of years of the four dynasties from Yudhishthir to Vikramaditya, it comes to 3,178 years which is 3141 Kali era or 39 AD, which represents the date when Vikramaditya left this earth planet.

According to the Bhavishya Puran and Rajtarangini, Vikramaditya lived between 102 BC and 15 AD; and according to the above details his period ends by 39 AD. There is only a difference of 24 years in the date-wise record of 70 kings who ruled Hastinapur for 3,085 years. A discrepancy of 24 years in 3,000 years of record could be a copying or printing mistake, and is thus negligible when we are dealing with a longer span of years. In this way the predicted period of the dynasties of Magadh and the historic records of the dynasties of Hastinapur correspond with each other and justify their correctness, and vice versa.

Ancient Kings India
Magazine Text detailing the Early King list of India


This is only a section of the magazine. It gives full date-wise detail of each and every king who ruled Hastinapur from Yudhishthir up to Vikramaditya. This is one of the rarest records that survived through this magazine.

The beginning of kaliyug, 3102 BC.

We have taken the beginning of kaliyug as the fixed point to determine the chronological dates of the events, kings, Divine dignitaries and the important personalities of our history. It is a common understanding that kaliyug started about 5,000 years ago (in round figures) and we never had any problems in the past in accepting this fact. But only after the arrival of the English people in India, all sorts of baseless criticisms started regarding our history and religion that were promoted and fostered by them. We had hundreds of such evidences regarding the date of Mahabharat war and the beginning of kaliyug in our history books that were destroyed by the British, still we have more than enough material to fully establish this fact.

(1) Astrological.

(a) We still follow the ancient astrological tradition. There is a most prestigious, 48 page detailed date-wise journal (panchang) with all the astrological facts and figures called “Vishva Panchangam,” established in 1925 and published by Kashi Hindu Vishvavidyalaya (Benares Hindu University), Varanasi. It gives all the three eras: Kali era, Vikram era and (Shalivahan) Shak era.

It is as thus:

It says on page 3 that 5,100 years have already elapsed before 2056 Vikram year which is 1999 AD. It means that the existing Kali era is 5101 in 1999 AD, which comes to (5101 – 1999) 3102 BC.

(b) Another panchang of India called “Shree Saraswati Panchangam” published from Navalgarh, Rajasthan, also gives all the calculations and says that 5,100 years of kaliyug had already elapsed before 1999.

(c) The “Vishva Vijay Panchangam” of Solan, Himachal Pradesh, says,

It means that 5,100 years of kaliyug had already elapsed before 1999 and 426,900 years of kaliyugare still left. Kaliyug is of 432,000 years (so, kaliyug started in 3102 BC).

Thus, the best team of the scholars of astrology all over India give the same figures of 3102 BC and publish it in the panchang (journal) every year.

These astrological journals are run by a group of the most learned astrologers of India, and thus it is mindlessness if any astrologer or scholar unnecessarily tries to argue about their accuracy.

(2) Others.

Alberuni. “Alberuni’s India,” first Indian print 1964 (S. Chand & Co., New Delhi) Volume I. In the second part of this book on page 4 Alberuni writes, “…the time which has elapsed since the beginning of kaliyug before our gauge-year, 4132 years, and between the wars of Bharat and our gauge-year there have elapsed 3479 years.” In the Annotations (p. 358) of the same book Alberuni tells about his gauge-year, which is: “A.D. 1031, 25th February, a Thursday.”

There is a difference of 968 years between 1031 AD and 1999 AD. Thus, adding 968 years to 4,132 years comes to 5,100 years, the period that has already elapsed since the beginning of kaliyugand up till today (1999), and this is exactly what is mentioned in the astrological journals of India.

Alberuni also mentions about Vikram era (57 BC) and also the Shalivahan Shak era which starts 135 years after the Vikram era.

Aryabhatt. The greatest astronomer and mathematician, Aryabhatt, was born in 476 AD. His work in astronomy is an asset to the scholars. He gave an accurate figure for pi ( ) 3.1416. He finished his book “Aryabhattiya” in 499 AD in which he gives the exact year of the beginning ofkaliyug. He writes,

“When the three yugas (satyug, tretayug and dwaparyug) have elapsed and 60 x 60 (3,600) years ofkaliyug have already passed, I am now 23 years old.” It means that in the 3,601st year of Kali era he was 23 years old. Aryabhatt was born in 476 AD. Thus, the beginning of kaliyug comes to 3,601 – (476 + 23) = 3102 BC.

‘According to KD Abhyankar, the starting point of Kaliyuga is an extremely rare planetary alignment, which is depicted in the Mohenjo-Daro seals. Going by this alignment the year 3102 B.C is slightly off. The actual date for this alignment is February 7 of 3104 B.C.'(wiki Kali yuga)

Kali yuga, therfore began on 7 February 3104 BC

Citation in block quote and References .

Garbhodaki Vishnu Balarama Lakshmana In Quantum Wormhole

Vishnu is often depicted as resting on Shesha. Shesha is also considered a servant as well as a manifestation of Vishnu. He is said to have descended to Earth in two human forms or avatars: Lakshmana, brother of Rama; Balarama, brother of Krishna.

“Shesha” in Sanskrit texts, especially those relating to mathematical calculation, also implies the “remainder” – that which remains when all else ceases to exist.”

I have written a number of articles on the concept of Time in Hinduism which is different from that of the west.

While the Western Science designates Time as Linear, Hinduism calls it Circular and Non Linear(Please read my post Time Non Linear, Cyclic)

Now Quantum theory has proved that Time is not linear.

To understand Hindu History one should have an eye for facts, allegories, Facts and allegories combined together and allegorical stories to instill morality.

Vishnu in Anatha Sayana.jpg Garbhodaki Vishnu.

However one can easily identify the last mentioned by the statement in the body of the story or towards the end it to be a Moral story.But the Puranas, Vedas and the Ithihasas, Ramayana and Mahabharata belong to another genre .

Adi Sesha in Patala Loka.jpg. Adi Sesha Supporting the Earth.

Puranas and Ithihasas record facts as has been proved.

Gharbodhaka Ocean.jpg
Gharbodhaka Ocean.

Vedas belong to a category of Knowledge that is intuitively grasped and it is not through the senses we possess.

We can verify even this if we follow the laid down rules.

The Puranas contain facts as well as Higher Physical truths.

Some of these Truths enunciated in the Puranas are called as Lower Knowledge.

One such is the much overlooked Adi Sesha on whom Lord Vishnu reclines.

People are aware that Adi Sesha is the Bed on which Lord Vishnu reclines and he was born as Lakshmana in Ramayana and Balarama in Mahabharata times.

The importance of Sesha can be understood by the fact that  Lord Vishnu was born as a Younger brother to Balarama, an Avatar of Sesha, whom Lord Vishnu served diligently.

This is the expression of gratitude to Sesha by Lord Rama to Krishna hen he said to Lakshmana,

‘You have served me diligently sacrificing everything in your Life in order to serve me.

I shall repay it by serving as diligently to you in the next Avatar.

Lord Krishna executed His Machiavellian Schemes in the Mahabharata, be it the slaying of Drona,Fixing of the Muhurat for the Mahabharata war by switching the Full Moon Day(Bodhayana Amavasya), killing of Bhishma by placing Sikandi in front of Bhishma,The taking away of the fruits of Karna’s Good deeds by taking them away from Karna in the Battlefield,hiding the Sun to enable Arjuna to kill Jayathratha,of advising Bhima by slapping his thighs to indicate that Bhima as to hit Duryodhana below Duryodhana’s Thighs, the list is endless…

in the absence of His elder brother Balarama , an Avatar of Adi Sesha.

If Lord Krishna listened to in the Mahabharata at all it as only Balarama and no body else.

Such was his devotion to Balarama.

Apart from the incidents narrated thus about the respect shown to Balarama,is there any deeper meaning behind the importance given to Balarama by Lord Krishna?

From the scientific angle?

To me , it seems so.

Krishna represents, among other things the embodiment of the Universe, as He displayed it to Arjuna in Kurukshetra in His Viswaroopa.

Krishna, an Avatar of Vishnu is beyond Time and Space and in fact He is Time and Space.

Vishnu has three aspects,the fact many of us are unaware.

Please read my post on Three Visnus.

They are,

In Gaudīya Vaishnavism, a school of VaishnaVaishnavism, the Sātvata-tantra describes three different forms, or aspects, of Vishnu as Mahā Vishnu, Garbhodakaśāyī Vishnu andKsirodakaśāyī Vishnu (Paramātmā), with each form having a different role in the maintenance of the Universe and its inhabitants:

“For material creation, Lord Krishna’s plenary expansion assumes three Vishnus. The first one, Mahā Viṣṇu, creates the total material energy, known as the mahat-tattva. The second, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, enters into all the universes to create diversities in each of them. The third, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Vishnu, is diffused as the all-pervading Supersoul in all the universes in heart of every living being and is known as Paramātmā. He is present even within the atoms. Real object of meditation in Yoga is a Paramātmā. Anyone who knows them can be liberated from material entanglement.”(Satvata Tantra)


Now to Adisesha,

Shesha is said to hold all the planets of the universe on his hoods and to constantly sing the glories of the god Vishnu from all his mouths. He is sometimes referred to as Ananta Shesha, which translates as endless-Shesha or Adishesha “first Shesha”. It is said that when Adishesa uncoils, time moves forward and creation takes place and when he coils back, the universe ceases to exist.


Please refer my posts on this.

I have also written on the Singularity in Blackholes,describes the Brahman described in the Vedas.

Time runs backwards,

It recoils.

Ina Blackole, all events appear to be at a Standstill, though it is not.

There is a Singularity in a Black hole which one can not perceive.


In the centre of a black hole is a gravitational singularity, a one-dimensionalpoint which contains infinite mass in an infinitely small space, where gravitybecome infinite and space-time curves infinitely, and where the laws of physics as we know them cease to operate. As the eminent American physicist Kip Thorne describes it, it is “the point where all laws of physics break down”.

There is a reference in the Ramayana that Hanuman entered into a Black hole/wormhole in the Vindhya Mountains during His search of Sita.

And Lakshmana wentdown the Sarayau River to Patala Loka.

Balarama entered Patala Loka as a white serpent,( basic Light) .

‘In Ramayana, Lakshmana went to the Sarayu river, ended life by engaging in meditation and stopping his breathing. It is said his soul went to Patala Loka’

Adishesha lies on the Garbhodaka Ocean. This universe lies inside Hiranyagarbh which also has 14 planetary systems. Beneath the 14 planetary system is the cosmic ocean known as Garbhodaka ocean.

According to SB 5.23.9, the last planetary system is Patala. Further 30,000 yojanas(ancient distance measurement unit) below, Adishesha lies on Garbhodaka ocean but doesn’t hold any planetary systems.

According to SB 2.7.1

Only under certain conditions do the planets float as weightless balls in the air, and as soon as these conditions are disturbed, the planets may fall down in the Garbhodaka Ocean, which covers half the universe. The other half is the spherical dome within which the innumerable planetary systems exist. The floating of the planets in the weightless air is due to the inner constitution of the globes, and the modernized drilling of the earth to exploit oil from within is a sort of disturbance by the modern demons and can result in a greatly harmful reaction to the floating condition of the earth.’

Hinduism describes 14 Lokas belonging to This Universe and there are many more and these are explained in the Devi Mahatmiyam and in the Puranas that speak of Devi.

The point that there are unobservable Universes is agreed upon by Quantum and they admit to 10 such places.

Hinduism mentions 14.

I had written on these issues .

So, in the present context, The Time Principle is enumerated in the form of Lakshmana and Balaram where they had gone into the Garbhodaka Ocean which is the outer limit of our present Universe, though unobservable and all these rest on Garbhohaka Vishnu.

Please read my posts on Quantum in order to know more on this topic.

Related articles.

Moon Dial Konark Calculate To A Minute Sun Dial

Many would have visited the one at New Delhi.

But how does one calculate Time with the help of a Sun Dial?

Take the famous Sun Dial at Konark, Odisha, India.

There are eight spokes in the Wheel.

Many of us are aware of Sun Dials.

Sun Dial, Konark,India.png Sun Dial, Konark,India.

Many would have visited the one at New Delhi.

But how does one calculate Time with the help of a Sun Dial?

Take the famous Sun Dial at Konark, Odisha, India.

There are eight spokes in the Wheel.

‘The sundial has 8 major spokes that divide 24 hours into 8 equal parts, which means that the time between two major spokes is 3 hours. There are 8 minor spokes as well. Each minor spoke runs exactly in the middle of 2 major spokes. This means that the minor spoke divides the 3 hours in half, so the time between a major spoke and a minor spoke is an hour and half or 90 minutes.

Now, at the edge of the wheel, you can see a lot of beads. If you observe carefully, you can see that there are 30 beads between a minor and a major spoke. So, the 90 minutes are further divided by 30 beads. This means that each bead carries a value of 3 minutes. The beads are large enough, so you can also see if the shadow falls in the center of the bead or on one of the ends of the bead. This way we can further calculate time accurately to the minute.

The sundial shows time in an anti-clockwise fashion. At the top, the major spoke stands for midnight and this spoke stands for 3 A.M and this one for 6 A.M and so on. When I place a finger or a pen at the tail of the animal in the axle, the shadow will fall on the edge of the wheel. Now, I simply note the bead where the shadow falls. Using the math we did before, I can easily tell the current time precisely down to the minute. Imagine how much time and coordination would have happened between the astronomers, engineers and sculptors to create something like this 750 years ago.

Now if you are observing closely, you would have 2 questions in your mind right now. The first question would be, what happens when the sun moves from east to west. Since the wheel is carved on a wall, the sun would not shine on this wheel at all. How can we tell time in the afternoons? Now, the Konark temple has another wheel or sundial, located on the west side of the temple as well. You can just use the other sundial that will work perfectly from afternoon, until sunset.

This is the second and the most interesting question. How do you tell time after sunset? There would be no sun, and hence no shadows from sunset till the next morning’s sunrise. After all, we have 2 sundials in the temple which work only when the sun shines. To this question, I want to point out that the Konark temple does not have just 2 wheels like this. The temple has a total of 24 wheels, all accurately carved just like the sundials. Have you heard of the Moondial? Do you know that the moondials can work just like sun dials during night time? What if the other wheels in the temple could be used as moondials?

Many people think that the other 22 wheels were carved for decorative or religious purposes and do not have an actual use. This is what people thought about the 2 sundials as well. Believe it or not, people thought that all the 24 wheels were just carved for beauty and as Hindu symbols. About 100 years ago, it became known that this was a sundial when an old yogi was seen calculating time secretly. Apparently selected people were using these wheels for generations and for 650 years no one else knew about it. They say that when they asked him about the purpose of the other 22 wheels, the yogi refused to talk and simply walked away.

And our knowledge of just these 2 sundials themselves is actually very limited. You can see how there are multiple circles of beads. You can see carvings and markings all over these sundials, and we don’t the meaning of most of them. For example, this carving on a major spoke has exactly 60 beads. Notice how in some carving you can see leaves and flowers which may mean Spring or Summer. Notice how in some carvings you can see lemurs mating, which only happens during winter. So, these sundials could have even been used as an almanac for a variety of different things. Now you can understand how limited our knowledge is about the rest of the 22 wheels.

Notice that there are clues on these wheels that people have overlooked for centuries. Notice how a woman wakes up and looks at a mirror in the morning. Notice how she is stretching, being tired and ready to go to sleep. And you can also see that she is engaging in sexual activity during night. For centuries, people have ignored these hints and thought that these were carvings of Hindu Goddesses.
This is also a perfect example of how people think ancient unexplainable carvings are just for beauty or religious purposes. If ancient people spent a lot of time creating something, there is a very good chance that it was done for a valuable, scientific purpose.

Moondials are time pieces similar to a sundial. The most basic moondial, which is identical to a sundial, is only accurate on the night of the full moon. Every night after it becomes an additional (on average)[note 1] 48 minutes slow, while every night preceding the full moon it is (again on average) 49 minutes fast, assuming there is even enough light to take a reading by. Thus, one week to either side of the full moon the moondial will read 5 hours and 36 minutes before or after the proper time.

More advanced moondials can include charts showing the exact calculations to get the correct time, as well as dials designed with latitude and longitude in mind.


Large Numbers Modern Maths Tamil Classics

In the highly complex world of Astronomy, where very huge distances are to be measured special numbers are needed to count.


The presence of Large numbers indicate that knowledge of such huge numbers were necessitated .


That is possible only when Knowledge of such numerals are needed.

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World’s Largest Number.


And such a field is Astronomy.


Unless one has a very deep insight into the working of the Universe , one would not have devised the numbers and more importantly  would not have systematized them.


The largest Number used now ,


When a number represents a quantity rather than a count, SI prefixes can be used—thus “femtosecond”, not “one quadrillionth of a second”—although often powers of ten are used instead of some of the very high and very low prefixes. In some cases, specialized units are used, such as the astronomer’s parsec and light year or the particle physicist’s barn.

Nevertheless, large numbers have an intellectual fascination and are of mathematical interest, and giving them names is one of the ways in which people try to conceptualize and understand them.

One of the first examples of this is The Sand Reckoner, in which Archimedes gave a system for naming large numbers. To do this, he called the numbers up to a myriad myriad (108) “first numbers” and called 108 itself the “unit of the second numbers”. Multiples of this unit then became the second numbers, up to this unit taken a myriad myriad times, 108·108=1016. This became the “unit of the third numbers”, whose multiples were the third numbers, and so on. Archimedes continued naming numbers in this way up to a myriad myriad times the unit of the 108-th numbers, i.e., (10^8)^{(10^8)}=10^{8\cdot 10^8}, and embedded this construction within another copy of itself to produce names for numbers up to \left((10^8)^{(10^8)}\right)^{(10^8)}=10^{8\cdot 10^{16}}. Archimedes then estimated the number of grains of sand that would be required to fill the known Universe, and found that it was no more than “one thousand myriad of the eighth numbers” (1063)….


The Largest Standard Dictionary Number, on date, is, Centillion ,10303.


Tamil Classics name, 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 = MAHAYUGAM = Ten Undecillion = 10 37.


This is 10 steps later to Decillion.


That is adding the power.


The basic computation in a Language that is over 5000 Year old….?


Shall be posting on minute measurements in Tamil and on Large and smallest numbers in Vedic System.




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