Tamil Chola Sibi Ruled From Pakistan?

The affinity of Sanskrit, Tamil Culture with Sanatana Dharma is very close.

The Tamil kings are referred to in the Vedas, Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharata.

They predate even Lord Rama.

Tamil ings were present during the Swayamvar of Sita,

They were present during the Swayamvar of Nala and Damayanthi.

Nala was the ancestor of Lord Rama and legends have it that Nala visited Thirunaru, Pondicherry, to be relived of Shani(Saturn’s) effect.

Though there are many  anecdotes of Tamil Kings, who trace their lineage to Solar Dynasty, two stand out.

One is Manu Needhi Chola,means, one who effectively enforced the rules elaborated by Manu.

He ran his son over by his chariot,(he was riding it) because a Cow complained to him by ringing the Bell he installed to hear people’s grievances and informed him that his son ran over its calf.

Manuneedhi Chola atoned it by running his chariot over his son!

The episode is found in the Hitti Civilization-they were the forerunners of the Anatolian Civilization.

Another is Emperor Sibi.

Chakravarthy Sibi is mentioned in the Rig Veda, Ramayana and Mahabharata , apart from references in the eighteen Puranas.

Thereafter, the king when recovered from loss of consciousness and again returned to his breath, called that charioteer for the purpose of getting the report on Rama. Then, Sumantra, who joined his palms in reverence, approached the monarch who was repenting about Rama alone, filled with pain and sorrow, advanced in age, greatly anguished, sighing like a newly caught elephant and reflecting on something as a sick elephant.

 The king, having great distress, spoke to Sumantra, whose body was covered with dust, his face filled with tears, who was miserable and who approached near him (as follows):” Oh, Sumantra! Where can Rama the virtuous man abide, taking refuge at the root of a tree? What that Rama, who enjoyed very many pleasantries, can eat now? Oh, Sumantra! How can Rama the prince, who was habituated to good beds, sleep with such discomfort on a floor like an orphan? Footsoldiers, Chariots and elephants used to follow whenever Rama was marching ahead. How such a man can take shelter and stay in a forest devoid of people? How Seetha Rama and Lakshmana entered forest filled with wild animals and black snakes? How those princes with Seetha the delicate and the poor lady went on foot, after descending from the chariot? You have seen my sons entering the forest, as though divinities of Aswini had entered the Mountain-range of Mandara. You are indeed lucky. After reaching the forest, what words did Rama speak? What did Lakshmana speak? What did Seetha speak?  Tell me where Rama sat, slept and took food. By hearing these things, I shall survive, as Yayati survived in the company of saints.”

Comment: King Yayati, when doomed to fall from heaven requested Indra to cast his lot with saints. He was accordingly sent down to a spot on the earth, where four ascetics- Astaka Pratardana, Vasuman and parva King Sibi had been practicing austerities, and had discourse with them- Mahabharata, Adi Parva.

Ayodhya Kanda, Ramayana, Sarga 58

Sibi was son of King Usinara and queen Madhavi. He was a righteous king. Indra and Agni wanted to test his integrity and so they took the form of birds hawk and dove. The hawk chased the dove and it sought protection from Sibi. Sibi was ready to give the hawk anything except the dove. But the hawk (Indra) was so adamant demanded either the dove or equal measure of meat from the king. When the king cut his flesh and placed it on one pan and the dove on the other pan, it was never equal. The king himself mounted the balance to give himself for the sake of the dove. But Indra and Agni revealed themselves and blessed him. There is another story of Sibi’s eye donation in the Buddhist Jataka.

This story is sung by several poets and they are in Purananuru verses 37, 39, 43 46 and 228. Sibi’s wards were called Saibya in Sanskrit. Sangam Tamil poets Tamilized this word and called the Chozas Sembian. This word is in other Sangam books Aka Nanuru (36) and Natrinai (14)…

King Sibi weighing his Thigh Flesh.Sculpture, Borobudur King Sibi weighing his Thigh Flesh.

The story of Sibi Chakravarthy is so famous that it was sculpted in the Barhut, Nagarjunakonda ,Amaravati bas-reliefs and  Borobudur in Java,Indonesia (see Boropudur sculpture above).

Tamil epics Silappadikaram and Manimekalai gave more details about this link. Since the oldest part of Sangam Tamil literature mentions it no one can reject it. The link is confirmed with other stories as well.

Sibi ruled from the north west of India. There was a Sibi puram on the banks of river Chenab in Punjab. Sibi clan is mentioned in Rig Veda and Brahmanas. Panini referred one Sivapuram may be the same Sibipuram’

Sibi is in Nort west of India, currently in Pakistan.

There are views that Sibi ruled from there and that the Tamils were from North India.

Considering the differences between the Tamil Culture and Sanatana Dharma, thought Tamils were a part of Sanatana Dharma and the archeological evidence,Literature, the structural difference between Sanskrit , I am of the opinion that it is not so.

In the case of Sibi. it is probable that Sibi had the city of Sibi as a second capital.

Sibi (Balochi: بلوچ ) (Urdu: سِبی‎) is a city of Balochistan province of Pakistan. The city is located at 29°33’0N 67°52’60E at an altitude of 130 metres (429 feet)[1] and is headquarters of the district and tehsil of the same name.[2] According to the 2001 census of Pakistan, the population of Sibi is 52,100..



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Hinduism, Tamils

Secret Chambers Ekambareswara Temple Key To Lost Mu Civilization?

I have been researching into the origins of Shiva worship in the South.

I have been referring to, apart from  Sanskrit texts, Tamil Texts,Temple architecture and Temple histories of south and north India.

In this search,I have noticed that there were at least two tsunamis mentioned in the Tamil Classics.

The great Flood is present in almost all the civilizations of the world.

And there are more interesting  nuggets of information.

1.The Sanatna Dharma spread in South East Asia and Westwards of India seem to have been from the South.

2.Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated from the South to the North and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

3.The South Asian spread of Santana Dharma seems to have preceded the spread int he west.

4.The remains of Tamil Culture is found in all the Asian countries , New Zealand and Australia.

5.The Incas whose ancestors were Tamils and they came later than the Africans.

6.The ancestors of the Africans, the Olmecs’ ancestors were Tamils from Godavari Kumtis.

7.This leads to the discrepancy in dating the Tamils and these Cultures.

8. Once we are able to distinguish between the Two Floods, we can see some light in this search.

The Southern part of India, below the Deccan Plateau/ Vindhya/Satpura Mountains seems to have separated from the landmass of India twice, one each at each Flood.

The earliest one formed the Kumari Kandam, which has been referred to by the Tamil Classics.

This spread was east wards towards reaching to Australia.

Later came the Lemuria, which had the Atlantis a part of it.

I have been trying to find the connection between the Mu Civilization and the Tamils.

Detailed Post on this follows shortly.

In the meantime I stumbled on some information I thought worth sharing.

The theory of the Lost Civilization of Mus was floated by James Churchward, a patented inventor, engineer.

‘he had found evidence of a lost civilisation: Mu. Mu was said to have been the Pacific equivalent of Atlantis, though Churchward said it was a colony of Mu. The first man to write about Mu was Augustus LePlongeon, who in archaeological circles has the distinction of being the first to make a photographic record of the ruins of Chichen Itza. In his books “Sacred Mysteries Among the Mayans and Quiches” (1886) and “Queen Moo and the Egyptian Sphinx” (1896), LePlongeon related his decipherment of the so-called “Troano Codex”, which he claimed showed that the Maya were the ancestors of the Ancient Egyptians. The Mayans had originated from a lost civilization, Mu, which was on par with Atlantis, and which had been destroyed by a volcanic eruption. He added that Queen Moo – clearly linked with Mu – had travelled from this continent to Egypt, where she had gone down into the history books under her new name of Isis. Unfortunately, when the Mayan language was deciphered several decades later, it was learned that LePlongeon’s interpretation of this document was completely erroneous, sometimes even using letters that were in fact no such thing. Jack Churchward, a descendent of James Churchward, states that LePlongeon relied on the translation of Brasseur de Bourbourg. Jack Churchward received an email from one of de Bourbourg’s descendants, who stated that the translation was done by channelling a spirit, which explains why LePlongeon erred so much when he interpreted the document based on this translation.
LePlongeon did put the lost civilization of Mu on the books, but left it to Theosophist Helena Blavatsky to popularize the lost continent, claiming it was the mystical birthplace of occult traditions. But the man who brought Mu from theory and speculation to reality was James Churchward, who claimed to have found hard physical evidence for the continent’s existence, when he was shown a secret library in India…

Chruchward reported that he found manuscripts signifying the connection between the Tamils and the Mus ina secret chamber in Ekambareswarar Temple, Kanchipuram,Tamil Nadu.

He had found some Tablets too.

‘Churchward’s discovery became famous when a major article on it appeared on November 10, 1924 in the “New York American” newspaper. In it, the central framework of Churchward’s claims about Mu was put forward. The civilisation was labelled “Empire of the Sun”. It was once a civilisation that had 64 million inhabitants, known as the Naacals, the priestly brotherhood, keepers of the sacred wisdom, who lived 50,000 years ago. All known ancient civilisations – India, Egypt and the Mayas – were decayed remnants of its many colonies.
In 1926, at the age of 75, Churchward published “The Lost Continent of Mu: Motherland of Man”. Where was Mu? It extended from north of Hawaii to the Fijis and Easter Island. Geologists find it hard to imagine dry land here, as the area is crossed by the so-called Andesite Line, making it geologically unlikely there was a landmass here. As Churchward never produced any evidence for his visit to the Naacal Library, several people treat his claims with scepticism.
So was Churchward a liar, or someone with genuine experiences? To understand the man better, it is noted that some aspects of the Mu legend are original to Churchward, some aren’t. It was LePlongeon who had first written about the “Nacaal”, in 1896, where he identifies them as Maya adepts and missionaries, with the word Naacal meaning “the exalted”. But LePlongeon therefore identified their homeland as Central America, not Mu in the Pacific Ocean, which was specific to Churchward.
What about his relationship with Blavatsky? They both claimed that in India, they had been exposed to “lost knowledge”. In the case of Blavatsky, her source of lost knowledge was the “Book of Dzyan”, supposedly written in Atlantis and presented to her by the Indian Mahatmas.
Indeed, though it could be argued that Churchward merely copied from the likes of Blavatsky and LePlongeon in his exploit of Mu, at the same time, it could be said that his story is totally true and that it confirms Blavatsky’s assertions and that Churchward spent several decades cementing his case before he went public and wrote his series of books on the subject.
Churchward was living in India in the 1880s, before he moved to the United States in 1889. It is during his time in India when he allegedly made contact with these Indian adepts – allowing for a period of roughly a decade where he could befriend, learn and study the language – more than sufficient time. Churchward said he studied the language which was said to be Mankind’s original language, which had labelled “Naga-Maya”, for more than two years
After having read the Naacal documents, he continued his searches for further information. In Burma, he visited an ancient Buddhist temple in search of the missing records, carrying letters of introduction from the Indian high priests with whom he studied…

‘His story truly hinges on whether or not he acquainted an Indian priest and saw numerous rare tablets. As a result, for years, the story of Churchward therefore remained a legend, while his books were reprinted. But never, anything new was found that might change the status quo. That changed when the German independent researcher, author and travel agency manager Thomas Ritter claimed he had entered a “secret library” underneath Sri Ekambaranatha temple in Kanchipuram, India in which he has found evidence of the lost civilisation of Mu.
He claims that on July 23, 2010, he was contacted by one Pachayappa, who invited him to enter the underground complex – and even allowed him to photograph some of its contents! Ritter states how “at chamber no. 4 the priest only allowed me to take pictures from two tablets, not from all this books there. The two tablets he showed me, are a little bit damaged. But you can see clearly the inscriptions.”
These two tablets are the so-called Naacal tablets, which James Churchward claimed to have seen many decades before. When Ritter published the material, there was immediately a torrent of disbelief, not helped by the realization that what Ritter apparently showed was a tablet unearthed in Byblos (Lebanon), discovered by French archaeologist Maurice Dunand. Because of the small amount of writing on the tablets, they have so far not been deciphered, though the script is identified – Proto-Byblian – and therefore not related to India. Indeed, the tablet presented by Ritter is in the Beirut Museum (Cat. 16598) and not a secret library in India.
Ritter claims that in July 2010, he was not welcomed by the usual young priest Narjan, whom he knew well, but an elder man, Pachayappa, who unlike Narjan, did not speak English. Pachayappa took him down into the underground structures of the temple complex. Ritter states: “Before an iron-bound door he stopped and pointed with some gesture to the bottom: ‘Rishi place!’” Then he opened the door, behind which the Nacaal library was located.
Whether Ritter is lying or not, he has at least specifically identified a temple as the location of the library: the Sri Ekambaranatha Temple in Kanchipuram, in the state of Tamil (India). The gate of the temple complex measures more than sixty metres tall, making it the largest temple tower in Southern India, and is made from granite, decorated with the images of gods, goddesses and heroes. The complex is a Hindu temple dedicated to Lord Shiva and is one of the five major Shiva temples, each of which representing a natural element. The Sri Ekambaranatha Temple represents the element earth. The temple’s history dates back to at least 600 AD, though could be older and is notorious for its “hallway with a thousand pillars”, as the temple’s inner walls are decorated with an array of 1,008 Shiva lingams, a symbol of the male energy.
But Ritter has drawn attention to the subterranean system of this complex, where he claims there are ten chambers. In nine of these chambers, they stored the tablets. Each room measured 25 meters long and 15 meters wide, with the ceiling quite low – he could touch it when he stretched his arm out. Pachayappa claimed that the inscriptions detailed the Rishi Puranas, the lives of the culture bringers of Ancient India. Inside were black granite tables, and there were tens of thousands of stone tablets. Ritter notes that “both sides of such postcard-sized stone tablets engraved with tiny lines were narrow characters covered in an unfamiliar script. Other plates showed fine geometric patterns on running, technical drawings, maps and astronomical images.” When he asked what they contained, he said it was the legacy of the Seven Sages.
In the first three chambers, the tablets are made from black granite, in the next three from gold. Each golden tablet was fourteen by ten centimeters, and about two to three milimeters thick and were bound like a book.
In the final three rooms, he found silver and bronze tablets that were hard to read, so Ritter used a handkerchief to polish the tablet, restoring it to its original state.
Ritter claims he was only allowed to photograph two tablets. All of these chambers have inscriptions, describing the lives and deeds of the rishis, and has produced photographs of these inscriptions.
The tenth room was located at the end of the corridor. In the middle of the room rose a column of about 1.50 m high from a solid black material, and according to Pachayappa, the material was not stone. Behind the lingam were statues of the Seven Rishis, placed in a semi-circle, and were made from a shimmering metal, which Ritter thought could be gold or silver-plated. One of them he was able to identify as Aghasthiya, who is always depicted as a dwarf.’

Kanchipuram Residents, please contribute.


Secret Chamber in Ekambareswarar Temple



Kumarikandam, Lemuria Are Not the Same

While one reads about the lost continents of Lemuria and Kumarikandam, one is likely to assume that both are the same.

This is due to the hazy impression one gets about the Tsunami that was the cause for the massive upheaval in the south of the Vindhyas, the Dravida Desa.

Geographical Position of Mu.jpg Geographical Position of Mu.


Lemuria, Map.jpg hypothetical sketch of the monophyletic origin and extension of the twelve races of Man from Lemuria over Earth.” From Haeckel, Natürliche Schöpfungsgeschichte, Plate XV. Note the differences in the German version (1868) without Lemuria and the English version (1876) with Lemuria, after 1870 Haeckel adopted and promoted the idea of a sunken continent in the Indian Ocean.

There  (three?) were two Tsunamis mentioned in the Tamil Classics, Silappadikaram, Manimeghalai and Jivaka Chintamani.

Since there were at least two references to Tsunamis and four references to earth quakes in Sangam Tamil and post Sangam Tamil verses we can be sure of some natural catastrophes. The reason for the doubts about their existence came from the big number of kings, big number of poets they sponsored and the years the kings ruled. If we take those years as exaggerated or coded language then we can reconcile the contradictions.

Adirakku Nallar, the commentator of Tamil epic Cilappatikaram had given the geography of the Tamil Land that was devoured by the sea. He wrote that there were seven big areas and each one was divided into seven smaller areas. Seven is a sacred number for Hindus and this type of land division is already in Hindu mythologies. When the first Tamil Sangam at South Madurai went into the sea ,they moved south and established the second academy at Kapatapuram. When that was also devoured by the sea they moved further south and established the third Tamil Sangam in modern Madurai. During the second academy Tolkappiyam was written by Tolkappiyar. At present Tolkappiyam  is the oldest available Tamil work, which is grammar book. Scholars date it to first century BC or AD. Some kings and poets who were part of First (Murinjiyur Mudinagarayar) and Second Sangam wrote a few poems which are included in Sangam corpus of Tamil literature ( Panamparar, Kakkaipatiniyar).

Any student of linguistics will easily find out that their poems were not very old as claimed by the commentator. The language of Tolkappiyam and verses by Muda Thirumaran (King during second Tamil Sangam) and Murinjiyur Mudinagarayar (First Tamil Sangam)betray their age. The language was not very different from other Sangam poems. If we apply the thumb rule followed by Max Muller to date the Vedic literature (two hundred years for language changes) both Tolkappiyam and other Sangam works will be grouped under the same period. Tolkappiyar himself indirectly says that he compiled whatever materials available at that time. He adds in hundreds of places the journalist’s cliché “they say”, “it is said that”. This makes it clear that he was not the one who wrote every bit of the book, but it was only a compilation. If we go by his language we can’t put him back any further than first century. His colleague Panamparar wrote the introduction (prefatory verse) for his treatise. His language was not archaic either.

The commentator of “Iraiynar Agapporul” gives a full account of the three Tamil Sangams .In the background of this linguistic evidence and in the absence of any historical proof, the claim that the  First Tamil Sangam existed for 4400 years under  89 kings and 4449 poets composed poems wont command any credibility. It is the same story about Second Tamil Sangam which existed for 3750 years  under  59 kings and 3700 poets. The third Tamil Sangam existed for 1850 years.’….

I am of the opinion that the dates mentioned around 1 Ad or even 5000 BC may not be correct, considering the references one finds about the Tamils in the Vedas,  when Rig-Veda has been dated around 5000 years ago, the date of Tamils should have been pushed earlier.

Based on the evidence available about the two Tsunamis, it is quite probable, the break of the South, Tamil Nadu could have been in two phases.

One when Lemuria got disengaged from the Indian Mass.

The other, Kumarikandam.

Considering the facts that,

Manu Precede Daksha,

This Manu, of Kali Yuga, Satyavrata Manu, migrated from the South to Ayodhya,

Manu’s are for Manvantaras and hence precede the known history,

Shiva worship was present in the South even before the Tsunamis,

The relics of Shiva Ganesha and Murugan are found in the Middle east, Europe, Americas, Russia and Africa,

Vishnu relics are found in New Zealand and Australia,

it is probable that these two landmasses  were separated b considerable length of Time.

I am looking into which one was submerged earlier b referring ti archeological, Astronomical and linguistic evidence from various cultures from the East and West of the Present India.

Lemuria or Mu is the name of a hypothetical continent that allegedly existed in one of Earth’s oceans, but disappeared at the dawn of human history. The concept and the name were proposed by 19th century traveler and writer Augustus Le Plongeon, (1825-1908), who claimed that several ancient civilizations, such as those of Egypt and Mesoamerica, were created by refugees from Mu – which he located in the Atlantic Ocean. Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land’s demise. Other refugees supposedly fled to Central America and became the Mayans.

After his investigations of the Maya ruins in Yucatan, Le Plongeon claimed that he had translated ancient Mayan writings, which supposedly showed that the Maya of Yucatan were older than the civilizations of Greece and Egypt, and additionally told the story of an even older continent. Le Plongeon actually got the name “Mu” from Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg who in 1864 mistranslated what was then called the Troano Codex using the de Landa alphabet. That was wrong as recent translations of the Troano Codex have shown it to be treaties on astrology. Brasseur believed that a word that he read as Mu referred to a land submerged by a catastrophe. Le Plongeon then identified this lost land with Atlantis, and turned it into a continent which had supposedly sunk into the Atlantic Ocean:..

Churchward claimed that more than fifty years prior, while he was a soldier in India, he befriended a high-ranking temple priest who showed him a set of ancient “sunburnt” clay tablets, supposedly in a long lost “Naga-Maya language” which only two other people in India could read. Having mastered the language himself, Churchward found out that they originated from “the place where man first appeared – Mu.” The 1931 edition states that “all matter of science in this work are based on translations of two sets of ancient tablets:” the clay tables he read in India, and a collection 2,500 stone tablets that had been uncovered by William Niven in Mexico.

Churchward gave a vivid description of Mu as the home of an advanced civilization, the Naacal, which flourished between 50,000 and 12,000 years ago, was dominated by a “white race” that was superior in many respects to our own. At the time of its demise, about 12,000 years ago, Mu had 64,000,000 inhabitants and many large cities, and colonies in the other continents.

Churchward claimed that the landmass of Mu was located in the Pacific Ocean, and stretched east-west from the Marianas to Easter Island, and north-south from Hawaii to Mangaia. He claimed that according to the creation myth he read in the Indian tablets, Mu had been lifted above sea level by the expansion of underground volcanic gases. Eventually Mu was completely obliterated in almost a single night after a series of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, “the broken land fell into that great abyss of fire” and was covered by “fifty millions of square miles of water.

Churchward claimed that Mu was the common origin of the great civilizations of Egypt, Greece, Central America, India, Burma and others, including Easter Island, and was in particular the source of ancient megalithic architecture. As evidence for his claims, he pointed to symbols from throughout the world, in which he saw common themes of birds, the relation of the Earth and the sky, and especially the Sun. Churchward claims the king of Mu was Ra and he relates this to the Egyptian god of the sun, Ra, and the Rapanui word for Sun. He claimed to have found symbols of the Sun in Egypt, Babylonia, Peru and all ancient lands and countries – it was a universal symbol.

Churchward attributed all megalithic art in Polynesia to the people of Mu. He claimed that symbols of the sun are found depicted on stones of Polynesian ruins, such as the stone hats (pukao) on top of the giant moai statues of Easter Island. Citing W.J. Johnson, Churchward describes the cylindrical hats as spheres that seem to show red in the distance, and asserts that they represent the Sun as Ra. He also incorrectly claimed that some of them are made of “red sandstone” which does not occur in the island. The platforms on which the statues rest (ahu) are described by Churchward as being platform-like accumulations of cut and dressed stone, which were supposedly left in their current positions awaiting shipment to some other part of the continent for the building of temples and palaces.He also cites the pillars erected by the Maori of New Zealand as an example of this lost civilization’s art work. In Churchward’s view, the present-day Polynesians are not descendants of the dominant members of the lost civilization of Mu, responsible for these great works, but survivors of the cataclysm that adopted the first cannibalism and savagery in the world.

Churchward’s Books

Volume 1The Lost Continent of Mu set out Churchward’s theory utilizing a “vast knowledge of science, ancient art and history, mythology and the occult” to recreate the splendor and doom of this hidden antediluvian world. Lemuria or Mu was about 5,000 miles long and 3,000 miles wide. The Garden of Eden was not in Asia but on a now sunken continent in the Pacific Ocean. The Biblical story of Creation came first not from the peoples of the Nile or the Euphrates Valley but from this now-submerged continent, Mu – the Motherland of Man…

When ones across the archeological evidence in the areas beig called once belonging to Lemuria, indicate a confirmed Hindu presence and the apread of Tamil culture.

Kumari Kandam Evidence.

According to Silappadhikaram, one of the Five Great Epics of Tamil Literature written in 2nd century CE, states that the “cruel sea” took the Pandiyan’s land, part of which was present between the rivers Pahruli and the mountainous banks of the Kumari. These rivers are said to have flowed in a now-submerged land.

Adiyarkkunallar, a 12th-century CE commentator on the epic, explains this reference by saying that there was once a land to the south of the present-day Kanyakumari, which stretched for 700 kāvatam from the Pahruli river in the north to the Kumari river in the south.
The modern equivalent of the measurement kāvatam, which is also known as kātam in Tamil, is a distance of 6.25 miles (10.06 km).[

Kanakkathikaram, a 15th century Tamil Mathematical literary work which is in the form of poems, defines the length of 1 kāvatam(1 kātam) as 24,000 muzham(33,000 feet, 6¼ miles) and it also defines the time taken to cover it which is the distance that can be covered by normal walk in 7½ Nāzhigai or 1 Sāmam(equivalent to 3 hours).
So, the distance of 700 kāvatam is equivalent to 4,375 miles (7,041 km) in modern day measurements.

This land was divided into 49 nadu(countries), or territories, which he names as seven coconut territories (elutenga natu), seven Madurai territories (elumaturai natu), seven old sandy territories (elumunpalai natu), seven new sandy territories (elupinpalai natu), seven mountain territories (elukunra natu), seven eastern coastal territories (elukunakarai natu) and seven dwarf-palm territories (elukurumpanai natu).
All these lands, he says, together with the many-mountained land that began with KumariKollam, with forests and habitations, were submerged by the sea.
Two of these Nadus or territories were supposedly parts of present-day Kollam and Kanyakumari districts.





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Goddess Abhirami Plays How

There are incidents in one’s Life which defy Logic.

We, those who have not experienced them, brush them aside , saying it is a coincidence,vivid imagination.

Full of Life, we make jest of such things.

But when one faces difficult circumstances, one tends to clutch even a straw.

The difference between Gnani and ordinary mortals is that the former learns and proceeds towards Realization; we ,though for a moment are moved, get on with our Lives as usual!

I have personal experience of such incidents,

I have narrated a couple of them as Posts.

I have a friend, who is running a Media Group in Tamil ,a Film producer,Political commentator and very much down to earth.

Though not an Atheist or an Agnostic, one can not say he is deeply religious.

I met him , on his personal invitation, (after reading my blog,) in Chennai in March 2015 for the first time.

I went to his office around 2 pm and we were discussing many things, mainly Politics, News till 10.30 pm.

As I informed my eldest sister-in-law and my wife that I would be back in about two hours, they were worried and kept on calling me.

Finally I returned home by about 11.30pm.

What did we discuss at length?

As we were discussing politics and other things, topic turned towards Philosophy and Religion.

In the course of our talks he narrated this incident.

Let me narrate it in his words.

‘By now, you know I am not strictly religious, though I Believe in God.

I have been associated with Kanchi Mutt very closely and now have distanced by self after the passing away of the Maha Periyava.

I was then running more Magazines , which were trend setters and  I was kept busy .

During this period my wife fell ill and that too critically.

She was admitted to Apollo Hospitals ,Chennai.

She was on Oxygen and Doctors informed me that they had done their best and the rest is with God.

I was by her side for over eight days.

On the eighth day, I dozed off.

I had a vivid dream, where Goddess Abhirami bade me to come to Thirukkadavur.

I woke up.

I called my driver and proceeded towards Thirukkadavur.

It was Monson time in Tamil Nadu,July/August.

It was raining heavily.

With great difficulty we covered th distance in about ten hours and I reached the temple around 6 am.

The Sanctum had opened just then.

The Kurukkal, Archaka, was awaiting the arrival of Milk for morning Abhisheka.

Time wore by… 6.0..7… 7.30…

The archaka became restless as it was getting late and devotees have gathered and it was raining very heavily.

Then around 7.45 came a boy with an Aluminium Can of Milk.

The Archaka scolded him for being late.

The boy just smiled and went off saying that the Cows were sick.

The Abhishekam went on.

It was concluded by about 9 am.

Then came a man and asked the archaka for his forgiveness.

He stated that he could not provide the Milk that day as his cows were sick!

The archaka told him that a boy had come and delivered the Milk stating that the Cows were sick!

The man replied that he had no assistants!

..The Abhishekam over, Archanai began.

I started to offer details for the Archanai , but the Archaka kept on overlooking me and went on performing Archanai for the others.

I t was 9.30.

I asked him to perform the Archana .

He told me that the next Abhishekam will start shortly and he will perform the Archana, afer the Abhshekam and the mandatory Kattali Abhishekam by some other party, which was scheduled for the day.

I waited.

The Abhishekam over , the Archanai began for the other party who had scheduled the Archana for the day.

I was totally dejected as my archanai was not being done as I felt it was a bad omen.

But I looked on.

The Archanai Sankalpam began.

The Nakshatra was Magha, my wife’ nakshatra!

The name was my wife’s.!

Then the daughter’s name and nakshatra were recited,

They were my daughter’s!

I had realized then,

It was Abhirami’s way of Blessing Me!…

I did not do the Archanai as It had already been done.

…Darshan over, I started for Chennai and it continued raining heavily.

The Driver found it difficult to drive.

In the meanwhile I was running a high fever and was shivering, feeling giddy.

I told the driver to park the Car in a safe place.

I was shivering with fever and was delirious.

The driver said that he would manage by driving carefully.

I had dozed off and after an hour I saw a small girl sitting in the front seat near the driver, talking to him.

She was wearing a Green Petticoat,( a dress worn by young girls in the south)

I was trying to shout at the driver not to pick up hitch hikers.

If he wanted more money I could give it to him.

But no words came!

I slept off.

As I  woke up, the Driver was saying,

‘Sir, We are nearing Chennai, it is 5.30″

I asked him how it could be as I told him to wait and asked him.

‘Where is the girl whom you picked up?

He replied that the girl got down at the outskirts of Tirukkadavur saying that there would be no problem in reaching Chennai.

And that I and asked him to pick her up and was chatting with her!

He said he did not charge her.

We reached the Hospital.

My wife was looking normal and her oxygen had been removed.

She was able to talk and told me that some one who said he was close friend of mine gave her Kumkum prasadm from Thirukkadavur.

She asked me that who it was as she knew all my close friends.

I could not place him even after my wife’s description of him.

Then I remembered the Deity Abhiramai was wearing green Petticoat after the Abhishekam!

Hindusim, Tamils

First Vietnam King A Tamil Thirumaran, Kiu Lien

The spread of Bharatavarsha throughout the world is a fact for those who study History with an open mind.

All the languages of India had/has a agreat role to play in the evolution of Santana Dharma.

As I know only Sanskrit and Tamil, I am writing on the basis of information available in these languages.

Wish I knew more languages!

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Flags Of Tamil Kings.

Tamil ,as one reads History and Sanskrit from Indian sources, would know, it runs parallel to Sanskrit.

I have written quite a few articles on this subject.

The Tamils were followers of Sanatana Dharam and i m of the view that the Sanatana Dharma of the Dravidas,the South of India,preceded the one in North India.

Please refer my posts on this.

I shall be posting a series on Sanatana Dharma Shiva where I shall deal with this subject in detail.

The Kingdom of the Tamils extended beyond the shores both in the West and the East.

Many Western civilisations have their Tamil roots.

It seems the East has its share too.

I have written articles on  Sri Lanka,Indonesia, Malaysia,Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Japan, Fiji,New Zealand and Australian

connection to Tamils/Sanatana Dharma.

The first Vietnam King seems to have been a Tamil Pandya King, Thirumaran.

The first king in Vietnam was known by the name Sri Maran. Translated in to Tamil it is Thiru Maran. We knew several Pandya kings by these names through inscriptions and Tamil Cankam literature. The oldest Sanskrit inscription discovered in Vietnam mentions the name Sri Maran. Unfortunately we did not get the complete inscription. Most of it is not legible.
The inscription is known as Vo-Chanh Inscription. It was inscribed on a rock as two parts. This is about the donation made by the family of the king Sri Maran. We have fifteen lines on one part of the rock and seven more lines on the other side. Of these only nine lines are readable. Scholars who took a copy of the inscription say the poetry part is in Vasantha Thilaka metre in Sanskrit and rest is in prose.
The king donated all his property to the people who were close to him and ordered that it should be honoured by the future kings. The inscription ends abruptly. But we could read the words ‘Sri Mara raja kula’ very clearly. Though we couldn’t get much information about this king from other sources, Chinese historians confirmed that the Hindu empire that existed in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia started with Sri Maran.
Chinese historians named Thiru Maran as Kiu Lien and said that he captured Champa following a revolt. Champa was part of modern Vietnam. The French scholars who excavated most of the South East Asian sites have identified Kiu Lien as Sri Maran. All the kings’ names who followed Sri Maran were in Chinese style and beyond recognition. The revolt started in AD 132 against Chinese and Sri Maran ruled from AD 192.But the kings’ names end with Fan (in Chinese) which is nothing but Varman. As a surprising co incidence we have both Varman and Maran names in the Pandyan Kingdom in Tamil Nadu.
There are more than 800 Sanskrit inscriptions in South East Asia. Mula Varman was another king whose inscription was found in the thick jungle of Borneo (Indonesia).
Now let us look at the Tamil literature to get some corroborative evidence. The last king who ruled during the second Tamil Academy (Second Tamil Sangam) was Thiru Maran. When a tsunami struck his capital he moved his capital to the present day Madurai. May be he or his representative might have ruled Vietnam.
Velvikkudi Copper Plate inscription also mentions Thiru Maran, Sri Maran as titles for a few kings. The king who ruled during the days of Tolkappiyar also had the title Thiru. He was Nilam Tharu Thiruvil Pandyan.

Another early Champa king was Bhadravarman, who ruled from 349-361CE. His capital was the citadel of Simhapura or ‘Lion City,’ now called Tra Kieu. Badravarman built a number of temples, conquered his rivals, ruled well and in his final years abdicated his throne and spent his last days in India on the banks of the Ganges River.

Historic Champa was divided into five regions. Indrapura (present-day Dong Duong) served as the religious center of the kingdom; Amaravati is the present day Quong Nam province; Vijya is now Cha Ban; Kauthara is the modern Nha Trang; and Panduranga is known today simply as Phan. Panduranga was the last Cham territory to be conquered by the Sino-Vietnamese.