Tag: Purana

My Posts On Sanatana Dharma Spread Reply To Crticis


I have been publishing articles on Sanatna Dharma, also called Hinduism, trying to validate with the help of available Archaeological evidence,Astronomy,Etymology.Cultural Language similarity,references in Indian and foreign literature and Architectural similarities if not identities.

For my post ‘World’s Oldest Temple, Gobekli Tepe,built By Brahmins, I have received a lot  adverse comments, though they were out numbered by  positive comments.

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Bhimbetka rock painting showing man riding on horse.30,000 Years old. “Bhimbetka rock paintng1”. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons – http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bhimbetka_rock_paintng1.jpg#/media/File:Bhimbetka_rock_paintng1.jpg

The Major thrust of the adverse comments are.

1.The facts I have quoted are not scientific.

2.The Gobekli site is 11000 Years old and since the Ramayana is dated around 5114!

And the archaeological investigation is not complete.

Hence, what I have written, as one reader put it, making it up.

3.The dating is wrong and people will accept only Carbon dating and scientific dating methods.

My clarification.

‘The facts I have quoted are not scientific’.

I have  and am providing sources for every single article I write from reliable sources.

In some cases I draw inferences by linking various elements,like the archaeological findings,Astronomical events, Etymology, Cultural behavior,Language and architectural affinity.

So they stand as a theory till such time some additional evidence comes along.

But till new evidence comes along my theory is an improvement on the  existing data.

And is more  accurate than the existing ones.

History is the process of trying to reconstruct events by cross referencing, linking various elements as mentioned above.

I do not indulge in misinformation as it is the prerogative of the West.

I do not put on my Blinkers when an Indian source presents itself and refuse to accept it because it is not by a Western Scholar(?)

‘The Gobekli site is 11000 Years old and since the Ramayana is dated around only that period.’

And the archaeological investigation is not complete.

Hence, what I have written, as one reader put it, making it up.”

True that the Gobelki is 11000 years old and Ramayana is dated around 5000 BC.

Rig Veda is also dated at 5000 BC.

Both the dates were by the Western scholars.

Are they assigning Rig Veda and Ramayana the same date?

What about Mahabharata?

 EXACT DATE OF MAHABHARAT WAR
16TH OCTOBER 5561 YEAR B.C.

Does it mean That Ramayana took place just 500 Years before Mahabharata?

We have references to Ramayana and Mahabharata  in Sanskrit Texts and Tamil.

Both these languages are so old it is impossible to date them accurately within the time frame as we know of..

I am providing excerpts on India in Paleolithic age.9Material provided thowards the close of the Post)

People have lived in India 50,000 -75000 Years ago.

I have articles on the age of Tamil Sangam Vedas Puranas and the Temples of India.

So it is possible that the Events in the Puranas have happened earlier than Gobekli Tepe and there are strong possibilities that Sanatana Dharma spread there .

I have provided more evidence that Tamils/Sanatana Dharma was the root for Mayas, Aztecs,Sumerian, Minoan.

People may  check the relevant posts.

On the fact that the archaeological  is incomplete, what is wrong in providing links to the references  found in Indian texts to arrive at a conclusion?

One does not expect a Westerner to know of these references from India.

What is wrong in providing this to enhance knowledge?

While these archaeological  evidence is available on the web, the specific information on Indian references is not for it requires knowledge of ancient Indian Texts exposure to Modern dating technic.

DNA evidence leads to Madurai.

Carbon dating is ideal.

The issue in Carbon dating is,

If you are verifying a vessel, it can date only the material and does not tell you the date when the artifact was made.

In Astronomy also the astronomical events repeat themselves over and over.

So which one do we take reference to?

Hence my attempt has been to synthesize all the elements and provide a theory for people to work on.

I do not manufacture history like the west.

I trust Indian and western sources with skepticism, check them and formulate my view.

“The history of India begins with evidence of human activity of Anatomically modern humans, as long as 75,000 years ago, or with earlier hominids including Homo erectus from about 500,000 years ago.[..

Isolated remains of Homo erectus in Hathnora in the Narmada Valley in central India indicate that India might have been inhabited since at least the Middle Pleistocene era, somewhere between 500,000 and 200,000 years ago.[20][21] Tools crafted by proto-humans that have been dated back two million years have been discovered in the northwestern part of the subcontinent.[22][23] The ancient history of the region includes some of South Asia’s oldest settlements[24] and some of its major civilisations.[25][26] The earliest archaeological site in the subcontinent is the palaeolithic hominid site in the Soan River valley.[27] Soanian sites are found in the Sivalik region across what are now India, Pakistan, and Nepal.[28]

The Mesolithic period in the Indian subcontinent was followed by the Neolithic period, when more extensive settlement of the subcontinent occurred after the end of the last Ice Age approximately 12,000 years ago. The first confirmed semipermanent settlements appeared 9,000 years ago in the Bhimbetka rock shelters in modern Madhya Pradesh, India. Early Neolithic culture in South Asia is represented by theBhirrana findings (7500 BCE) in Haryana, India & Mehrgarh findings (7000–9000 BCE) in Balochistan, Pakistan.[29][30][31]

Traces of a Neolithic culture have been alleged to be submerged in the Gulf of Khambat in India, radiocarbon dated to 7500 BCE.[32]However, the one dredged piece of wood in question was found in an area of strong ocean currents. Neolithic agriculture cultures sprang up in the Indus Valley region around 5000 BCE, in the lower Gangetic valley around 3000 BCE, and in later South India, spreading southwards and also northwards into Malwa around 1800 BCE. The first urban civilisation of the region began with the Indus Valley Civilisation

Citations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India#Stone_Age

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/mahabharat/mahab_vartak.html

Gondswana Proves How Sanatana Dharma Spread


I posted an article on how the Varaha, the Boar incarnation of Lord Vishnu, fits the first Mammals of the Triassic period .

I also postulated that taking into account,

1.Places/ events mentioned in the Ithihasa, Ramayana and Mahabharata check out with archeological finds,

2.The three great Floods mentioned in the Sanskrit and Tamil literature.

3.There are references to Lord Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu having migrated from the South to North to found Ikshvaku Dynasty in Ayodhya,

4.That Shiva and Ganesa left for the Arctic through the Middle east,Europe, Africa, Americas .

5.A Group from the Shiva and Ganesa lineage moved in from the Arctic through Russia and Khyber into India and eventually resettled in the Saraswati Valley.

6.Tamil Literature speaks of events even before Lord Rama and mention these events along with the Tamil Kings in the sunken lands off  Kanyakumari, extending upto what is now Australia.

7.The remains of Sanatana Culture are found everywhere around the world.

I checked up geology and the Formation of Continents.

Indian Puranas mention seven Islands ans d seven oceans.

Jambuu Dweepa; Plaksha Dweepa; Saalmalii Dweepa; Kusa Dweepa; Krouncha Dweepa; Saaka Dweepa and Pushkara Dweepa.

There are three views on the Lost continents.

There was Atlantis, described by Plato,

 

Another is that there was a super continent linking Africa and Australia,Lemuria

 

“About 1875 the scientists Haeckel and Blanford suggested that the distribution of lemurs and their relatives could best be explained by a former land bridge connecting Africa, Madagascar, and the East Indies. P. L. Sclater proposed the name Lemuria for this land, and the word came into general use among geologists. But more recent investigations show that the vanished continent of Lemuria is not necessary to explain the distribution of lemurs, and in fact fails to do so. Lemuria was conceived to be part of a much larger continent, Gondwanaland, which was supposed to have reached three-quarters of the way around the Southern Hemisphere, with a gap in the Pacific. Scientifically, these continents have little to do with Atlantism, and even Gondwanaland is considered speculative, although it is still widely accepted.

 

Gondwana Super Continent which contained Lemuria .

 

At the end of the Jurassic Age Gondwanaland began to break up and, during the Tertiary Age approximately 20 million years ago, Antarctica completely broke away from South America. Due to its isolation, an ocean current formed around the continent, fed by conductive motions caused by water masses of different temperatures, favored by cyclonic type atmospheric circulation , and influenced by the Earth’s rotation.

The breaking up of Gondwanaland, the dispersion of the various continental blocks, the drifting of the Antarctic continent towards polar latitudes and its isolation, are all relatively recent events by the scale of geological time.

The geographical situation of Antarctica, in an isolated polar position and covered with ice, is the consequence of a long and complex geological evolution, which is still taking place and which, at least in part, should be understood and reconstructed. Up until the Jurassic Age 140 million years ago, Antarctica formed part of the supercontinent of Gondwanaland, In the Jurassic Age 140 million years ago, Antarctica formed part of the supercontinent of Gondwanaland, which also included Africa, Arabia, India, Ceylon, Australia, New Zealand and South America, and occupied temperate latitudes.

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Gondswana.

The descriptions found  in the Puraná about the descriptions of the Land Masses, check out.

This could explain why the Sanatana Dharma remains are found everywhere.

It was not difficult for Sanatana Dharma to spread.

By looking at the position of India in the map, one can understand how the Tsunami devoured India and how Sanatana Dharma was right in describing geographical details .

Citation.

http://www.crystallotus.com/Lemuria/01.htm

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/picks-from-the-past/12467/lost-continents?page=3

Puranas As Body Parts Of Vishnu List


Puranas, compiled by Veda Vyasa are said to be the body pats of Lord Vishnu.

 

 

Here is the description.

 

1.Brahma Purana    –  Head

 

2.Padma Purana        –  Heart.

 

3.Vishnu Purana         Right Hand.

 

4.Shiva Purana                Left Hand.

 

5.Bhagavatha Purana-   Thighs.

 

6.Naradha Purana-          -Navel.

 

7.Markandeya Purana- Right Foot.

 

8.Agni Purana                     -Left Foot.

 

9.Bhavishya Purana           -Right Knee.

 

10.Brahma Vaivarta Purana-Left Knee.

 

11.Linga Purana                          -Right Testicle.

 

12.Varaha Purana                       -Left Testicle.

 

13.Kanda Purana                            -Body Hair.

 

14.Vamana Purana                        -Skin.

 

15.Kurma Purana                         -Back.

 

16.Matsya Purana                         -Body Fat.

 

17.Garuda Purana                          -Bone marrow and

 

18.Brahmanda Purana                  -Bones.

 

Source.Padma Purana.

 

 

 

Reality Orders Trimurthis Are Not Brahman Matsya Purana


Reality is the core of Vedas.

 

That the Reality is non dual is Advaita, qualified non dualism Visishtadvaita and Dualism is Dwaita.

 

Normally one does not find Brahman given more importance in the Puranas as each Purana extolls the virtues of the God on whose name the Purana is named.

 

Matsya Purana, Purana meant to extol the Virtues of Vishnu speaks of Brahman ordering and assigning jobs to the Trimurti.

 

What is interesting is that this chapter (Chapter 6)  does not state that a particular God, Shiva, Vishnu as the embodiment of Brahman.

 

Instructions by Brahman.

 

To Narayana.

 

Marry Lakshmi, destroy the wicked and protect the Righteous by taking Avatars.

 

 

To Shiva.

Marry Parvati,be present in Holy places, bless people and perform Creation, Sustenance and Destruction.

 

To Brahma.

Determine the fate of every one based on their Actions.

 

On this basis, Vishnu is present as Naranarayana in Badrinath,Madhava in Prayag,Sri Hari in Haridwar,Renganatha in Srirangam,Venkateswara in Tirupati,and as Krishna in Dwaraka.

 

Shiva is present as,

Somanatha in Saurashtra,Mallikarjuna in Srisailam,Mahakala in Ujjain,Rameswara in  Sethu (Rameswaram) and as in all Dwadasa Kshetras as Jyotir Linga.

 

Parvati blesses as Sakthi

in 18 Sakthipeetas,

and as village deity in villages.

Source.Matsya Purana

Vishnu and Twelve Tectonic Plates Of Earth


While Vishnu was in His Yoga Nidra,two demons emerged from his ears.

 

(Vishnu does not sleep. It is called Yoganidra, it is Wakefulness born of Yoga.Tamil Language has a beautiful word for this, ‘அறிதுயில்’, which means sleeping while being aware of).

 

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Map of 15 Tectonic Plates

 

The world was enveloped in water.

 

They started destroying whatever Brahma has created.

 

Vishnu found it difficult to kill them.

 

So He showed confusion in their minds.

 

While they were confused, Vishnu asked them how Death would embrace them and they replied that they could be killed only in place without water.

 

One has to remember that there was nothing but water.

 

Vishnu had them in His lap and killed them with His Sudarshan Chakra.

 

(Bhavishya Purana)

 

Vishnu killed them by manifesting as Hayagreeva, after Madhu and Kaidabha stole the Vedas, and hid them in the Ocean.

 

Vishnu then retrieved the Vedas.

 

The bodies of Madhu and Kaidabha split into 12 parts(two times  Six)

 

These twelve are the Twelve tectonic plates of the earth.( Padma Purana)

 

Geology lists Seven  Tectonic Plates, six primary, eight secondary.

 

Primary Plates.

 

  • African Plate
  • Antarctic Plate
  • Eurasian Plate
  • Indo-Australian Plate
  • North American Plate

Secondary Plates.

  • Arabian Plate
  • Caribbean Plate
  • Cocos Plate
  • Indian Plate
  • Juan de Fuca Plate
  • Nazca Plate
  • Philippine Sea Plate
  • Scotia Plate

 

Citation.

List of Tectonic Plates Wiki

 

 

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