Shiva Thiruvannamalai At The Instant Of Earth’s Creation By Brahma

Earth seen from Apollo .jpg

The Puranas speak of Time on a Huge scale.

There are four Yugas and they are created, destroyed and recreated.

According to Hinduism, destruction is a misnomer.

It is hidden.

Curious enough modern Quantum Physics calls it in a different way as projection of Multi Verses.

Aarati to Tirupati Balaji Moolavar.jpg
Aarati to Tirupati Balaji Moolavar.

I have written a couple of articles on Multi verses in Hinduism.

The Time scale of Sanatana Dharma has the following points.

  1. The Universe is created, hidden and re projected.
  2. This happens at three-time frames called  Manvantara, Kalpa and Yuga.
  3. Three kinds of cataclysms take place.One is water, Another by Fire and another is total darkness each of these correspond to the dissolution at the end of Manvantara, Kalpa and yuga.
  4. The Universe is eternal.
  5. Time is eternal.
  6. Time is non linear.
  7. Time is Cyclic.
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Arunachala Mountaion, Pre historic.

Brahma’s day is divided in one thousand cycles (Maha Yuga, or the Great Year). Maha Yuga, during which life, including the human race appears and then disappears, has 71 divisions, each made of 14 Manvantara (1000) years. Each Maha Yuga lasts for 4,320,000 years.

Manvantara is Manu’s cycle, the one who gives birth and governs the human race. before & after each manvantara there’s a sandhikal as long as krutyuga & in that time there is all water on earth.

Each Maha Yuga consists of a series of four shorter yugas, or ages.

The yugas get progressively worse from a moral point of view as one proceeds from one yuga to another. As a result, each yuga is of shorter duration than the age that preceded it.

The current Kali Yuga (Iron Age) began at midnight 17 February / 18 February in 3102 BC in the proleptic Julian calendar (Year 6898 of the Holocene Era.) kalpa=ahoratra of brahma. Space and time are considered to be maya (illusion). What looks like 100 years in the cosmos of Brahma could be thousands of years in other worlds, millions of years in some other worlds and 311 trillion and 40 billion years for our solar system and earth. The life span of Lord Brahma, the creator, is 100 ‘Brahma-Years’.

One day in the life of Brahma is called a Kalpa or 4.32 billion years.Every Kalpa creates 14 Manus one after the other, who in turn manifest and regulate this world. Thus, there are fourteen generations of Manu in each Kalpa. Each Manu’s life (Manvantara) consists of 71 Chaturyugas (quartets of Yugas or eras). Each Chaturyugais composed of four eras or Yugas: Satya, Treta, Dwapara and Kali. if we add all manvantaras(4320000x71x14)as long as 4 chaturyuga will be missing its because sandhikaal.after & before each manvantara so 15 sandhikaal The span of the Satya Yuga is 1,728,000 human years, Treta Yuga is 1,296,000 human years long, the Dwapara Yuga 864,000 human years and the Kali Yuga432,000 human years.[8] When Manu perishes at the end of his life, Brahma creates the next Manu and the cycle continues until all fourteen Manus and the Universe perish by the end of Bramha’s day. When ‘night’ falls, Brahma goes to sleep for a period of 4.32 billion years, which is a period of time equal one day (of Brahma) and the lives of fourteen Manus. The next ‘morning’, Brahma creates fourteen additional Manus in sequence just as he has done on the previous ‘day’. The cycle goes on for 100 ‘divine years’ at the end of which Brahma perishes and is regenerated. Bramha’s entire life equals 311 trillion, 40 billion years. Thus a second of Brahmā is 98,630 years. Once Brahma dies there is an equal period of unmanifestation for 311 trillion, 40 billion years, until the next Bramha is created. During one life of Brahma there are 504 000 Manus (Vedic “Adams”) are changing, there are 5040 Manus are changing during one year of Brahma, and 420 Manus manifest during one month of Brahmā. (See: List of numbers in Hindu scriptures for more such numeric details).

During the course of my research into Sanatana Dharma I stumbled across these facts which are authenticated by Modern Science.

  1. Thiruvannamali in Tamil Nadu, India is over 3.5 Billion Years old.
  2. Shiva Uma Marraige took place 40 Millionyeas ago.
  3. Tirupati is over 2100 million years old.
  4. An ancient site is Chennai, Tamil Nadu is dated around a Million years
  5. Jwalapuram ,Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh, India is dated around 74,000 years

I wanted to look into this taking into account these points,The Age of Earth as stated by the Hindu Puranas and by Modern science.

Now according to Hindu Cosmology, the earth is .4.32 Billion years old.

The puranic view asserts that the universe is created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles. In Hindu cosmology, a universe endures for about 4,320,000,000 years (one day of Brahma, the creator or kalpa) and is then destroyed by fire or water elements. At this point, Brahma rests for one night, just as long as the day. This process, named pralaya (literallyespecial dissolution in Sanskrit, commonly translated as Cataclysm), repeats for 100 Brahma years (311 Trillion, 40 Billion Human Years) that represents Brahma’s lifespan. Brahma is regarded as a manifestation of Brahman as the creator.

Modern scientific view is that the earth is…4.54 Billion years + or – 5 Billion years!

The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the radiometric ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples.

Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich mineralsshowed that some were in excess of a billion years old.The oldest such minerals analyzed to date—small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia—are at least 4.404 billion years old. Comparing the mass and luminosity of the Sun to those of other stars, it appears that the Solar System cannot be much older than those rocks. Calcium-aluminium-rich inclusions  – the oldest known solid constituents within meteorites that are formed within the Solar System – are 4.567 billion years old, giving an age for the solar system and an upper limit for the age of Earth.

It is hypothesised that the accretion of Earth began soon after the formation of the calcium-aluminium-rich inclusions and themeteorites. Because the exact amount of time this accretion process took is not yet known, and the predictions from different accretion models range from a few millions up to about 100 million years, the exact age of Earth is difficult to determine. It is also difficult to determine the exact age of the oldest rocks on Earth, exposed at the surface, as they are aggregates of minerals of possibly different ages..

Now Thiruvannamalai,Tamil Nadu, India is 3.5 Billion years old!

In Puranic version of Brahma’s creation, the first creation for this kalpa was around 4.32 Billion Years.

In such great stretches of Time 5 to 10 billion years is allowed in calculation.

Hence it is probable Shiva was at Thiruvannamalai when Brahma created the world around 4.32 Billion Years ago!

I shall be exploring this data from other angles as well.



Which Gotra Is Superior?

My article Difference ‘Between Viswamitra Kaushika Gotras Why No Bharata’ is being read widely and there have been comments on it, most of them thanking me for clarifying the issue.

There are some comments which differ from the others.

I am replying for some relevant ,in my opinion important comments.

One of them states that I should refrain from writing articles on this subject as the definition and explanation of Brahma Rishis is not clear.

I quote,

I belong to KAUSHIKA GOTHRA. I still doubt about the concept of BRAHMARISI. Even Sage Vashista as per Mahabharatha is different from BRAHMARISHI VASHISTA.. It is better not to write articles on this for the following reasons. It is a well known fact the PROGENITOR OF BOTH VISWAMITHRA AND KAUSHIKA GOTHRAS is SAGE KUSHIKA –A MANASA PUTHRA OF BRAHMA. hen how can be descendents of KUSHIKA NOT BE CALLED AS BRAHMARISHIS. Further sage Kaushika is one of the five rishis eligible to givE DEEKSHA IN SIVAGAMAS and ne of the FIVE GOTHRAS NOMINATED FOR ACHARYASTHANA. There are different versions about GADHI–THE BRAHMA RAJAN OF KUSHIKA GOTHRAS. As per DEVI MAHATMAYAM he is son of SAGE KATHA OF KUSHIKA LINEAGE and he is mentioned as KADI BROTHER OF KAUSHIKI WHO BECAME A RIVER. Further GODDESS PARVATHI WAS BORN AS A DAUGHTER TO SGE KATHA AS KATHYAYINI. And there is also anoter sage KATHYAYANA son of KATHA RISHI the famous author of KATHYAYANA SUTRA. It is only from RAMAYANA the story of VISWAMITHRA BEGINS. Here the son of KATHA SAGE is mentioned as GADHI AND NOT KATHI. Further the descendents of SAGE KUSHIKA did not want o become purohits and performed RAJAYA DUTIES. They are not born KSHATRIYAS since they did not belong to five clans of KSHATRIYAS–BRAHMA/NAGA/SURYA/SOMA/AGNI VAMSAS. Hence to consider all descendents of KAUSHIKA is incorrect bu they were only Brahmins performing Rjanya duties. Let us restrict ourselves about VIWAMITHRA’S CONTRIBUTION and need not go about whether he is a KSHATRIYA OR NOT’

1.I shall continue writing about what I find in the Sruthi and Smriti.

Saptha Rishis.jpg Saptha Rishis.

I present facts.

If some one has a different view they are welcome to post their comments with authentic source/Links.

If they are authentic, I shall write on the subject with my views, with corrections over my earlier view.

I am of the opinion that Knowledge , especially in Hinduism , is an open source.

So long as the information does not run contradictory to Sruthi, It has to be taken as final .

And this is my view.

I shall be writing on Brahma Rishis in detail.

There seems to be some apprehension in some quarters that the origin of the rishis might reflect on the descendants present social standing.

This is not warranted if one understands that lineage is determined by disposition and Character and not birth as a matter of right.

This is probably the reason for the proverb in Tamil that states that one should not look deeply into the origin of Rishis and rivers for in both the cases the origins may not be worth to begin with.

A Sage like Viswamitra was not recognised among the Rishis when he was a powerful King as Kaushika.

But once he became a Brahma Rishi he was venerated to the extent that his Gayatri Mantra has been the most elevated Status in Hinduism, notwithstanding his origin.

There was another comment which is connected to this comment, though it may not appear so, is

‘Which Gotra is superior?’

If we take the Puranas as the authority all the Puranas name Kashyapa.

We can not really say Kasyapa gotra is superior to all the other  Gotras, because,

Sage Bharatwaja, Atri and Sikleetha were described as the father of Mahalakshmi at different times.

Then there are the Saptha Rishis.

They are eternal and their composition changes Manvantara to Manvantara.

So  they have to be given the utmost respect.

The message is not to look for the origins of the Rishis and engage oneself in debates as to which Gotra is superior, but to follow the Path given by the Rishi assigned to each Family and adhere to the appropriate Sutras.




Difference Between Viswamitra Kaushika Gotras Why No Bharata

I have noticed that there are two Gotras, Lineage associated with Sage Viswamitra.


Gotras in general, refer to the lineage of a specific Rishi.

Gayathri . Gayatri Mantra was  By Viswamitra.jpg Gayathri . Gayatri Mantra was By Viswamitra.

It is customary for Ancient Indian writers to refer either to parents or their preceptor/s, as they were placed in a Higher Status than parents,.

Thus we have the parent,Grand parent referred to in Slokas and Stuthis.

Vyaasam Vasishta Napthaaram, Sakthe Pauthra Kalmasham,

Parasaraathmajam Vande Sukha Naadham Thapo Nidhim-Vishnu Sahasra Naama.

Here the author Vyasa introduces himself as,,

Great Grand son of Vasishta,

Grand son of Sakthi,

Son of Parasara, and

Father of Sukha.

How logically the terms are arranged.

Great Grand Father, Grand Father, Father, Self and son!

In case where the Sages had more than one wife, then the Gotra of the son of each wife is added.

It may be noted in the Pravara,three or Five Rishis are mentioned.

For example, Kasyapa, Apasthara, Naithruva’

This is different from Kasyapa Gotra.

There is another Pravara for Kasyapa Gotra as well.

Kasyapa, Aavatsaara, Daivala.

The same with the other Rishis.

Sometimes three Rishis are mentioned and at times Five.


One view is that these references are to the excellent ancestors from the Gotra.

My view is that , if that be case the first Rishi should always be the founder.

But , as in Nythruva Kasyapa, Kasyapa does not appear as the First Rishi but it is Naithruva.

Reason is that many Rishis have more than one wife and many children through each of them.

Kasyapa had more than one wife.

The Prajapati Daksha gave his thirteen daughters (Aditi, Diti, Kadru, Danu, Arishta, Surasa, Surabhi, Vinata, Tamra, Krodhavasha,Idā, Vishva and Muni in marriage to Kashyapa.

Though the Father is one, mother is different.

To identify and emphasize the differentiate, the three or Five Rishis are mentioned.

Traditionally the first wife’s son carries the Father’s name as Gotra and the others the son of the Second or third wife and but to make the reference correct the founder is mentioned later in the Pravara’

Why No Bharata in Viswamitra Gotra?

In the case of Viswamitra, we have two Pravaras,

  1. Koushika: Vaiswaamitra,Aghamarshana,Koushika.
  2. Viswamitra: Vaiswaamitra,Devaraata, Owtala.

There seems to be no sons mentioned  other than the fifty sons being banished by Viswamitra to Dravida Desa.

(Reference History of Tamils by PT Srinivasa Iyengar)

Their descendant Apasthamba established the Apasthamba Sutra , which is being followed by Brahmins of South India(South of Vindhyas).

Since the Dravidians and Bengalis were considered by the people  viswamitra do not find a mention in the Gotra,

Though King Bharata after whom India is named as Bharatavarsha,is the grand son of Viswamitra(through his daughter Shakuntala), Bharata’s name does not appear in the Gotra because Gotras are through the Male Child.

Why Two Pravaras for Viswamitra?

Viswamitra was called Kaushika in his early days , before he became a Raja Rishi and was christened as Viswamitra(Friend of the Universe)

Because he became a Brahma Rishi he was considered as a Brahmin by behaviour and Penanance.

( This is yet another example of disposition and character determing The Varna, loosely translated as Caste)

So the Kaushika Gotra probably indicates the lineage of Viswamitra in his early days and Viswamitra Gotra , after he became a Raja Rishi.

I am yet to find the name of Viswamitra’s son.

Readers may contribute.

Post follows on Viswamitra.

Saptha Rishis Change Abhijit Nakshatra Astronomy Validates

The concept of Saptha Rishis is known to Hindus.

These are the seven Sages who are to be accorded the highest respect and their works are believed to be the most authentic for the Manvanthara, a Time Scale to Indian Philosophy.

In performing any Hindu rite the mention of the Saptha Rishis is mandatory.

They are the Patriarchs of the Vedic Religion.

For the present Manvantara, the list is,

Atri, Bhrigu, Kuthsa,Vasishta,Gauthama,Gauthama Angirasa.

There is a variation of this as well,

Bhrigu, Atri, Angirasa Vashista, Pulastya, Pulalaha and Kratu.

Sanatana Dharma states that these Rishis change for each Manvanthara.

Manvantara is the astronomical time within an aeon or Kalpa, a “day (day only) of Brahma”, like the present Śveta Vārāha Kalpa, where again 14Manvantaras add up to create one Kalpa.

Please read my post on Manvantara.


Saptha Rishis in the First Manvantara.

Atri, Bhrigu, Marichi, Kashyapa, Vasishta, Pulaha, Pulasthya.

Second Manvantara.

Urja, Stambha, Prańa, nanda , Rishabha, Nischara, and Arvarívat.


Sons of Vashista: Kaukundihi, Kurundi, Dalaya, Śankha, Praváhita, Mita, and Sammita.


Jyotirdhama, Prithu, Kavya, Chaitra, Agni, Vanaka, and Pivara.


Hirannyaroma, Vedasrí, Urddhabahu, Vedabahu, Sudhaman, Parjanya, and Mahámuni.


Sumedhas, Virajas, Havishmat, Uttama, Madhu, Abhináman, and Sahishnnu.

Seventh, the present Manvantara.

Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja.

* there is a differnce in the name of the Rishis for the present Manvantara.

Hindu scriptures declare that the Saptha Rishis change as well as The Pole Star, The Dhruva Nakshatra.

This is validated by Modern Atronomy.

Lord Krishna in The Bhagavad Gita says.


‘I am Arjuna among Pandava and Abhijit among Nakshatras’.

Abhijit is the unseen Nakshatra in Hinduism , the twenty-eighth.


Abhijit is the Sanskrit name for Vega, the brightest star in the northern constellation of Lyra.

Abhijit means “Victorious” or “the One who cannot be defeated”.

This also changes for Manvantaras.


“Once Pluto moved into 10 degrees of Capricorn, it came within orb of Vega, another of astrology’s famous fixed stars.

Vega is one of the brightest stars in the sky – the 5th brightest in the whole of the sky. Back around 12,000 BCE, it was Earth’s pole star. And such cycles being what they are, it will be Earth’s pole star yet again – just prior to the year 14,000 CE…


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Earth procession of precessional pole stars (Note: all the years in this diagram have been rounded off to make it something south of a migraine to create.)
from an Earthly ‘pole pointer perspective’ means Planet Earth is currently pointed almost as ‘away’ from Vega as Earth will ever get. If a planet can ‘look away’ from something, Earth has another 800+ years to go, and it will be ‘pointed’ in as opposite a direction as it can get from Vega. And that’s a rather interesting notion, considering that the astrological Vega is known to be a charismatic position.”
Kratu α UMa Dubhe
Pulaha β UMa Merak
Pulastya γ UMa Phecda
Atri δ UMa Megrez
Angiras ε UMa Alioth
Vashista ζ UMa Mizar
Bhrigu η UMa Alkaid


It may be noted that Vasishta was the Kula Guru of Dasaratha and Lord Rama and Ram’s date is around 5000  BC.


Saptha Rishis Qualification Details

Saptha Rishis, the Seven Sages are revered most in Hinduism and they are given the pride of Place.


They are represented in the sky as the Saptha Mandala.(Ursa Major)


What are the qualifications of these Saptha Rishis?


1.Performing the basic six duties of a Brahmin.


Learning the Vedas,


Teaching the Vedas to the qualified, by way of disposition and discipline, to others.


Perform Yagna,


Perform Yagnas for the others.


Perform Dhana (Donate),


Accept Dhana.


In addition they should have the following qualities.


Run a Gurukula, where the children are taught, at Home and take care of the disciples as their own children.


Enter the family Life only for begetting a progeny.


Regulate the senses.




Treat all the Varnas, loosely translated now as Caste, equally.


Though Brahma Gnanis, remain in the worldly affairs without being affected by it.


The Saptha Rishis change for every Yuga.


Saptha Rishis of  the present Manvantara are,


Atri, Bhrigu, Kuthsa, Vasishta, Gautama, Kasyapa and Angirasa.


Goddess Mahlakshmi was born to Atri  ,Bhrigu.


Vasishta was the Guru of Rama and a Brahma Rishi.


Kasyapa was the Father of all the Devas and asuras,including the Adithyas, including Vishnu as an Aditya.


Angirasa compiled Atharva Veda.


Kuthsa gave 82 Rig Vedic Sukthas 62 Rudra Mantras and Prokshana Mantra.


Gautama is called ‘Dhrusta,, discoverer of Vedic Mantras, he was the husband of Ahalya and Rajaa Guru of Janaka.


Second Manvantara — the interval of Swarochisha Manu

Urja, Stambha, Prańa, nanda , Rishabha, Nischara, and Arvarívat.

Third Manvantara — the interval of Auttami Manu

Sons of Vashista: Kaukundihi, Kurundi, Dalaya, Śankha, Praváhita, Mita, and Sammita.

Fourth Manvantara — the interval of Támasa Manu

Jyotirdhama, Prithu, Kavya, Chaitra, Agni, Vanaka, and Pivara.

Fifth Manvantara — the interval of Raivata Manu

Hirannyaroma, Vedasrí, Urddhabahu, Vedabahu, Sudhaman, Parjanya, and Mahámuni.

Sixth Manvantara – the interval of Chakshusha Manu

Sumedhas, Virajas, Havishmat, Uttama, Madhu, Abhináman, and Sahishnnu.

The present, seventh Manvantara — the interval of Vaivasvata Manu

Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja


* There is a variation in the names of the Saptha Rishis of the present Vaivasvatha Manvantara.



Image.http://www.greatdreams.comUrsa Major