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Manu Dravida Ancestor Precedes Daksha Dravida Sanatana Dharma


I was intrigued by the fact that the Shiva worship starts with Daksha, who is the first Human being by Brahma for each Yuga.

And Daksha Kingdom was in the North of the Vindhyas.

Daksha’s daughter married Shiva.Daksha with Veerabhadra.jpg “Painting on paper depicting ‘Virabhadra The red-hued deity is coiffed exactly like Śiva. This is an unusual rendering of Virabhadra. The face of the Ganga peeps out of the dreadlocks, while loose jatas fly around his head. On his forehead is a prominent tripundra. Side fangs protrude from his mouth and a bushy moustache grows on his upper lip. In his upper right hand is a damaru, in his upper left hand a flame, the lower right hand carries a sword and the lower left a buckler. The attributes in his upper hands are unusual, as they generally bear the bow and the arrow. He is dressed in a dhoti adorned by sashes on the sides and an angavastra is draped on his elbows. Among his ornaments is a long white garland. On his feet are toe-knob sandals. At his left stands the ram-headed Daksha, sporting tripundra marks on his forehead and arms dressed in dhoti and with the angavastra tied around his hips.” Image credit.”Virabhadra Daksha” by Unknown – http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/search_object_details.aspx?objectid=3058344&partid=1&output=Places%2f!!%2fOR%2f!!%2f41361%2f!%2f41361-2-20%2f!%2fPainted+in+Thanjavur%2f!%2f%2f!!%2f%2f!!!%2f&orig=%2fresearch%2fsearch_the_collection_database%2fadvanced_search.aspx&currentPage=1&numpages=10. Licensed under Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virabhadra_Daksha.jpg#/media/File:Virabhadra_Daksha.jpg’

Vishnu worship seems to have been later than that of Shiva in the South, Dravida worship.

Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated from the South to Ayodhya, where his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty..

If Daksha were to be the first Human being created then how do we account for Manu?

Manu seems to pre date Daksha as,

1.Daksha came later, in the beginning of the Yuga, whereas Manu is for Manvantara.

A Manu’s lifespan is 71 Mahayugas (306,720,000 years).

‘Yuga  is the name of an epoch or era within a four age cycle. According to Hindu cosmology, life in the universe is created and destroyed once every 4.1 to 8.2 billion years,] which is one full day and night for Brahma. The lifetime of Brahma himself believed to be 311 trillion and 40 billion years as per Hindu cosmology.’

Manus and Saptha Rishis are for every Manvantara..

One of the Saptha Rishis is Agastya.

‘The earliest list of the Seven Rishis is given by Jaiminiya Brahmana 2.218-221: Vashista, Bharadvaja, Jamadagni, Gautama, Atri,Visvamitra, and Agastya, followed by Brihadaranyaka Upanisad 2.2.6 with a slightly different list: Gautama and Bharadvāja, Viśvāmitra and Jamadagni, Vashiṣṭha and Kaśyapa, and Atri, Brighu. The late Gopatha Brāhmana 1.2.8 has Vashiṣṭa, Viśvāmitra, Jamadagni, Gautama, Bharadvāja, Gungu, Agastya, Bhrighu and Kaśyapa..’

We find Agastya in the South advising Rama in the battle field not to lose heart and chant Adhitya Hrudayam on Lord Surya to win the war against Ravana.

Then we have Lord Shiva as the Father of Tamil Language.

Of course Sanskrit is also from Shiva’s Damaru, Maheswara Sutras.(Please read m Post on this)

We find the legends of Shiva in the north from the marriage of Sati ,daughter of Daksha with Shiva.

Nothing more of Shiva is mentioned in these North Indian Legends.

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‘In The Immortals of Meluha, Manu is said to be a prince from south India. His family, the Pandyas having ruled the mythical land of Sangamatamil for many generations. The decadence of the Kings incurred the wrath of the gods. A great deluge submerged the entire civilization. Manu having foreseen this escaped with his followers to the higher northern lands. Manu turned into an ascetic. Eventually Manu’s prayers pacified the gods and the water abated.

In the South Shiva worship has been in vogue much earlier as Adi Shiva, The Silent Teacher,Dakshina Murthy,First Yogi who initiated Agastya, who initiated Bhogar and Kriya Babaji.

The we have Lord Subrahmanya called as Murugan and His worship is quite old.

Though the Tamil Grammar, earliest of Tamil works assigns Varuna, Indra, Vishnu, Murugan(Subrahmanya), and Devi to each of the landmass , Kurinji,Marutham, Mullai, Neydhal and Palai, Shiva always remains in the background as the Chief.

He is called as the Ancient of the Ancients.

‘Munnai Pazhamprutkum Munnaip Pazham Porule’

He is also called Pirva Yaakaip Periyon’

That is Eldest though Unborn.

Sanskrit also calls Him as Ayonija, one who does not stay in the womb.

We have a lot of references to the South in the Puranas and Ithihasas about Tamils.

‘Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.5.38-40
kritadishu praja rajan
kalav icchanti sambhavam
kalau khalu bhavishyanti
narayana-parayanah
kvacit kvacin maha-raja
dravideshu ca bhurisah
tamraparni nadi yatra
kritamala payasvini
kaveri ca maha-punya
pratici ca maha-nadi
ye pibanti jalam tasam
manuja manujesvara
prayo bhakta bhagavati
vasudeve ‘malasayah
SYNONYMS
krita- adishu — of Satya and the
other earlier ages; prajah — the
inhabitants; rajan — O King; kalau —
in Kali-yuga; icchanti — they want;
sambhavam — birth; kalau — in Kali;
khalu — certainly; bhavishyanti —
there will be; narayana- parayanah —
devotees who dedicate their lives to
the service of Lord Narayana; kvacit
kvacit — here and there; maha-raja —
O great monarch; dravideshu — in
the provinces of South India; ca —
but; bhurisah — especially
plentifully; tamraparni — named
Tamraparni; nadi — the river; yatra —
where; kritamala — Kritamala;
payasvini — Payasvini; kaveri —
Kaveri; ca — and; maha- punya —
extremely pious; pratici — named
Pratici; ca — and; maha-nadi — the
Mahanadi; ye — those who; pibanti —
drink; jalam — the water; tasam — of
these; manujah — humans; manuja-
isvara — O lord of men (Nimi);
prayah — for the most part; bhaktah
— devotees; bhagavati — of the
Personality of Godhead; vasudeve —
Lord Vasudeva; amala- asayah —
having spotless hearts.
TRANSLATION
My dear King, the inhabitants of
Satya-yuga and other ages eagerly
desire to take birth in this age of
Kali, since in this age there will be
many devotees of the Supreme Lord,
Narayana. These devotees will
appear in various places but will be
especially numerous in South India.
O master of men, in the age of Kali
those persons who drink the waters
of the holy rivers of Dravida-desa,
such as the Tamraparni, Krtamala,
Payasvini, the extremely pious Kaveri
and the Pratici Mahanadi, will
almost all be purehearted devotees(
of the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, Vasudeva.(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvars)

..

ाः तस्याम्
दिशि सुदुर्गमाः |
कपीइशः कपि मुख्यानाम् स तेषाम्
समुदाहरत् || ४-४१-७
7. tasyaam dishi = in that, direction
of compass; su dur gamaaH = verily,
impossible, to pass – highly
impassable; ye ke cana = which of
those few; sam ut deshaaH = well,
intended, countries – some countries
that need be explained; about them;
saH kapi iishaH = he that, monkeys,
king of – Sugreeva; teSaam kapi
mukhyaanaam = to them, monkey,
prominent ones; sam udaaharat =
well, illustrated – gave a picture of.
The king of monkeys Sugreeva gave a
picture about some of the highly
impassable countries available in
southern quarter that need an
introduction to those prominent
monkeys bound south. [4-41-7]

सहस्र शिरसम् विंध्यम् नाना द्रुम
लता आयुतम् |
नर्मदाम् च नदीम् रम्याम् महोरग
निषेविताम् || ४-४१-८
ततो गोदावरीम् रम्याम् कृष्णावेणीम्
महानदीम् |
वरदाम् च महाभागाम् महोरग
निषेविताम् |
मेखलान् उत्कलाम् चैव दशार्ण
नगराणि अपि || ४-४१-९
अब्रवंतीम् अवंतीम् च सर्वम् एव अनुपश्यत
|
विदर्भान् ऋष्टिकान् चैव रम्यान्
माहिषकान् अपि || ४-४१-१०
8. sahasra shirasam = thousands, of
heads [crests]; naanaa druma lataa
aayutam = numerous, trees,
climbers, abounding in; vindhyam =
Vindhya Range; mahaa uraga ni
Sevitaam = great, snakes, adored by;
ramyaam narmadaam nadiim ca =
delightful one, Narmada, river, also;
tataH = then; ramyaam godaavariim
= wonderful one, River Godavari;
mahaanadiim = River Mahaanadi;
kR^iSNaaveNiim = River Krishnaveni,
or Krishna; mahaa bhaagaam =
highly, auspicious one; mahaa uraga
niSevitaam = by great, snakes,
adored by; varadaam ca = River
Varada, also; mekhalaan utkalaam
caiva = Mekhala, Utkala [in
territories,] also thus; dashaarNa
nagaraaNi api = Dashaarna, in cities,
also; abravantiim avantiim ca =
Abravanti, Avanti, also; vidarbhaan
R^iSTikaan caiva = Vidarbha,
Rishtika, also, thus; ramyaan
maahiSakaan api = charming
[kingdom,] in Maheeshaka, even;
sarvam eva anu pashyata = all
[everywhere,] thus, closely, see –
search thoroughly.
“Search the thousand crested
Vindhya mountains abounding with
numerous tress and climbers, then
the delightful Narmada river
coursing a little southerly to that
range, which is adored by great
snakes, along with wonderful River
Godavari, as well as River
Krishnaveni and Maha Nadi, and
then the greatly auspicious River
Varada which is an adoration to
great snakes. And the territories of
Mekhala, Utkala, the cities of
Dashaarna, kingdoms of Abravanti,
Avanti, and Vidarbha, also thus the
charming kingdom of Maheehaka, are
to be searched thoroughly. [4-41-10] Valmiki Ramayana Valmiki Ramayana – Kishkindha Kanda – Sarga 41

We have references to a Tamil King Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralaathan performing Tharpana for the dead in the Mahabharata War in Chera Kingdom.

He also provided food for both Kaurva and Pandava Armies during the Mahabharata war.

Vedas mention the spices , Peacocks, Special sandalwood.elephants being imported from the South.

During Draupadi Swayamvara Tamil Kings were present.

Tamil Kingas attended Rama and Sita Marriage at Mithila.

The vanaras were in Kishkinta pre dating Rama and were Shiva worshipers.

Hanuman is one and is considered to be an Amsa of Shiva, some say He is an Avatar of Shiva.

Considering all these facts and admitting these facts provided by the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana and Mahabharata, it is quite probable that he Sanatana Dharma was in place much before what is found in the North.

Please refer my posts on Shiva’s Marriage date. Agastya Date, Ramayana Mahabharata Dates,Ram’s ancestor Satavrata Manu being a Dravida,Thiruvannamalai Billion Year Old and many more.

Inputs welcome.

Citation.

http://historum.com/asian-history/63682-rama-king-cholar-solar-dynasty-9.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_(Hinduism)#Lifespan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daksha

The references in Sanskrit on Tamil are numerous.

I have quoted only a few.

Tamil references on Sanana Dharma, Vedas, Ramayana and Mahabharata are much more.

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Pre Sanatana Dharma Shiva In South Predates Sanatana Dharma?


A study of the Sanatana Dharma and Tamil throws some interesting questions.

The Vedic Dharma seems, it has been held, to have originated in the North of Vindhyas, Sarasvati valley.

Shiva as a Yogi.jpg Shiva as a Yogi.

Recent studies, excavations of archeological sites relating to Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma around the world, from Australia to South America,Europe, Africa, Russia,China and information on the practices of the aborigines in various parts of the world,indicates that the Sanatana Dharma was prevalent in one form or another in all these places,

Western scholars used this to invent the Aryan Invasion Theory, that is a Group called Aryans, invaded India thought the Khyber Pass in the Northern part of India and had influenced the thought processes of the people living in India.

This Theory, deliberately floated by the British mainly, to subjugate India , now stands discredited.

Please read my detailed Post on The Aryan Invasion Theory, Myth.

The Aryan theory could not explain the references to the Sanatana Dharma in Tamil Literature, South India.

Tamil language dates back to thousands of years and the Vedas quote them and they, in turn quote Tamil.

The oldest Tamil site has been found in Pallavaram, Chennai .(dated around  a Million years.)

‘Archaeologists have discovered India’s oldest stone-age tools, up to 1.5 million years old, at a prehistoric site near Chennai. The discovery may change existing ideas about the earliest arrival of human ancestors from Africa ‘.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/million-year-tamil-site-pallavaram-chennai-dated-report/

Lord Krishna participated in the Tail Sangam as an Invitee.

Please refer my Post on this.

He married a Pandyan Princess and had a daughter through her, and got his daughter arrived to a Pandyan Prince , gave her a dowry of one hundred Yadava families to provide her and her children with Milk and Curds.

The Chera King Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan participated in the Mahabharata War as the provider of food to both the Kaurava and Pandava armies.

He had Tharpana performed for those who died in the War.

Now comes the curious part.

Lord Rama ‘s ancestor Satyavrata Manu migrated fro the Dravida Desa(South of Vindhya Mountains) with his sons and his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku founded the dynasty, named after him, Lord Rama Belongs to this dynasty.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/30/manu-ramas-ancestor-migrated-from-south-india-5000-bc/

Shiva and His son Ganesha left, during the Great Flood, the time when Satyavrata Manu migrated to North, through the Middle east, traveling through europe, Africa,South America, North America((US), Central America, finally landing in the Arctic, where the Rig Veda was composed.

Please refer my Post on this.

Then they returned to India, then called the Bharata varsha and this entry was used to be denoted as the entry of the Aryans.

The Artifacts, archeological finds, cultural similarities, Languages of the found around the world indicates this.

Please read my posts on this.

Now Six avatars of Vishnu are from the South.

Matsya is from the Ocean and as such we can not ascribe a location on the earth.

Kurma is in the Ocean again, but there is a Temple where Kurma avatar took place.

Kurmnatha is housed in Sri Kurmam Temple, Srikakulam, Andhra Pradesh.

Vamana Avatar was in Kerala and the place where Bali had his kingdom was on the banks of Narmada, where the capital of Bali was situuated.

The place Varaha killed Hiranyakasipu is in Nepal, V(B0araha Kshetra), yet there is legend that Varaha is from Tirupati which is Adivaraha Kshetra.

Narasimha is from Ahobilam ,Andhra Pradesh.

Parashurama Avatar is from the South, Kerala.

Kalki is expected to manifest in the South.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/08/20/six-vishnu-avatars-in-south-confirm-south-sanatana-dharma/

Later Avatars from Lord Rama are from the North of Vindhyas.

Now Shiva is not mentioned in the Vedas excepting in the Sri Rudram,

‘Nama sivaaya cha, Siva dharayacha’

No special Sukthas directly addressed to Shiva are found.

Shiva means Auspiciousnees , as he etymology goes.

There is not much reference in the North of Vindhyas  of Shiva as much as Vishnu or Rama, Krishna.

Shiva is considered to be Chief deity among the Tamils, though the early Tamil Literature has Gods assigned for each landmass as Murugan, Krishna, Kotravai(Durga)Varuna and Indra.

But Shiva is taken as the First Siddha, followed by Agastya and others.

The Thirumandiram of Thirumoolar contains the Yoga thoughts, Advatita and Tantric practices  that are unique.

And this is much earlier to Ramayana and Agastya is referred to have founded Tamil , being handed over by Lord Shiva.

Ravana entered into a treaty with a Pandya King.

Many of the Tamil practices were incorporated by Apasthamba in the Vedic rituals, like the Mangalya Sutra.

Though there are common factors between the Sanatana Dharma and the Tamils, yet there is a uniqueness in Tamil practices, which are, curiously enough, not against the Vedic practices but reinforces them.

Many of the Avatars of Shiva have not been reported in the Literature of the North of the Vindhyas, though Puranas, mention Shiva avatars in the South,

Shiva is described as Piravaa Yaakaip Periyon,The Eldest, though Unborn.

He is considered as the First Guru, Adi Shiva, the First Siddha, the First Yogi.

The sixty-four avatars of Shiva in Madurai are not mentioned in the North.

The Agamas which came later to Vedas specified rules for the construction of Temples, though Temple worship is not mentioned in the Vedas.

Tamil Kings followed this and one finds ancient temples, both for Vishnu and Shiva in the South in the Agama style.

These temples, though the Agamas started with out the authority of the Vedas gained currency and helped Hinduism.

Considering all these facts, I tend to think the worship of Shiva in the South preceded the Sanatana Dharma of the North.

And one may note that the Rig Veda was composed in the Arctic.

Sanatan Dharma in the south, Dravida seems to have preced the Sanatan Dharma fro the North of the Vindhyas.

Inputs welcome.

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Egyptians Ancestors Tamils Religion Sanatan Dharma


I have ben exploring the spread of Sanatana Dharma and Tamil.

I have written articles that Iran,Iraq,Mesopotamia),Sumeria,Russi,Arctic,Indonesia,Vietnam, Cambodia,Japan, Bali , Philippines, New Zealand Australia had the Sanatana Dharma as their roots.

The Incas were the descendants of the Tamils

I have found that wherever Sanatana Dharma is found Tamil is found!

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Vanadevata’s (wood spirit) hand issuing from tree trunk offering water.

Deceased drinking water offered by tree divinity.iamge.jph

Deceased drinking water offered by tree divinity.
Egypt

The Mayans had Sanatana Dharma origin (please read my Post on this).

More to follow on this.

Now it seems that the Egyptians were the descendants of the Tamils!

The presence of Narasimha as Naram Sin, Images of Rama, Sita and Lakshmana,Ancient Tamil scripts being found in Oman and Egypt(I have posts) point in the direction of Sanatana Dharma having been in Egypt.

Of more interest is that the Ancestors of the Egyptians were the Tamils.

 

‘”Under the reign of Viswamitra, first king of the Dynasty of Soma -Vanga, in consequence of a battle which lasted five days, Manu -Vina, heir of the ancient kings, being abandoned by the Brahmans , emigrated with all his companions, passing through Arya , and the countries of Barria, till he came to the shores of Masra [Cairo].” (History of India, by Collouca-Batta). Unquestionably this Manu-Vina  and Menes , the first Egyptian King, are identical.Arya , is Eran (Persia ); Barria, is Arabia, and Masra, was the name of Cairo, which to this day is called,Masr, Musr, and Misro. Phœnician history names Maser as one of the ancestors of Hermes .”

This tallies with the information that Viswamitra banished his sons to the Dravida Desa (History of Tamils by P.T.Srinivasa Iyengar)

“The four principal groups in ancient India were the Asuras (Assyrians or Indus Valley people), Panis (Phoenicians), Yakhus or Yakshas (subjects of Kubera, god of gold and treasure a.k.a. Nagas) and Mayas. We know them today as the Dravidians (Tamils, Malayalam, etc.)

The non Indus Valley people in ancient days were exceedingly superstitious and fearful of the Mayans. The latter were excellent international shippers and traders, builders and astronomers. Their superstitious enemies thought their accomplishments had to be magic and beyond human ability. They were ultimately driven to Ceylon where they inhabited the province of Maya. Later, they went to the Americas, having been taken there by Kubera and his Yakshas.”  ‘Ceylon’ in those ancient times was more than likely the now sunken land to the south of India and connected geographically to the Ceylon of today, Sri Lanka. This is the ancient Tamil country of which today’s Tamil Nadu in India is but a small remnant:

 

“Egypt  herself had, in those unknown ages when Menes  reigned received her laws, her social institutions, her arts and her sciences, from pre-Vedic India.”

Menes the Ancient Egyptian King was Manu.

‘Menes is undoubtedly the Manu of the second subrace (5.2 Ancient Egypt) and there is a close connection to India which persists to this day – as any traveler to both nations will attest. If the Mayans have a ‘perfect identity of the rites, ceremonies, traditions’ of Egypt then it is further proof that their genesis is in India, also known as ‘Bharata’ in ancient times.

This strenghtens my thory that the Sanatana Dharma was in the South and spread throughout the world and the ancient people of Sanatana Dharma lived in the Dravida Desa.

Please read my post Ram’s ancestor Manu, a Dravida.

 

References.

Isis  Unveiled  I, H.P. Blavatsky. p.627.

Will the Maya Prophecy Really Happen? Gene D. Matlock.

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Manu Adhitya Adisesha Agastya In New Zealand Maoris


Everything about Human migration started with Tsunami.

All world culture have reference to Tsunami or the Great Flood.

The  migration began.

Ancient Tamil literaure speaks of three Tsunamis.

And the land mass had a different look from what we know of  today.

We had two Super Continents Gondwana and Laurasia.

The landmass of India was connected most of Australia, Africa.

The legends and etymology of the cultures of the world point to Sanatana Dharma connection everywhere.

Now in this article we shall look into some of them  relating New Zealand.

References to Manu, Adhitya and Agastya are found in the Maori tribes of New Zealand.

Agastya.

 

‘The Gamilaraay or Kamilaroi (see below for other spellings) language is a Pama–Nyungan language of the Wiradhuric subgroup found mostly in south-east Australia. It was the traditional language of the Kamilaroi people, but is now moribund—according toEthnologue, there were only 35 speakers left in 2006, all mixing Gamilaraay and English.[6] However, there are thousands of people of mixed descent both within the native populations as well as immigrant populations, who identify themselves as Kamilaroi. Kamilaroi is also taught in some Australian schools.

The meaning of Southern Cross in the language is “meeting place under the Southern Cross’ .

Crux /ˈkrʌks/, located in the deep southern sky, is the smallest yet one of the most distinctive of the 88 modern constellations. Its name is Latin for cross, and it is dominated by a cross-shaped asterism that is commonly known as the Southern Cross. Although visible to the Ancient Greeks, it was seen as part of the constellation Centaurus, and not defined or accurately mapped till the 16th century.

It is he Trishanku spoken of in Hinduism.

This star was used to point the South as the Pole Star was to identify the North by the Navigators.

 

The star Canopus which was used as a south polar star for ship navigation in the southern hemisphere, was named for Agastya Kumbhaja. That Kumbhaja star rises in March near the Southern Cross as the Indian Ocean becomes
calm before the monsoon trade winds begin blowing from India towards Asia. Agastya also means “from the mind of Indra and Shiva”. 2500 years ago, Agastya Kumbhaja was the uncle of Kaundinya in Tamil Nadu, and a Kaundinya prince ruled the first Hindu kingdom in Cambodia, 2000 years ago. Australia has names and legends of the Southern Cross, and Gamilari language has a word meaning “meeting place under the Southern Cross’. The South Pole is on the axis of Meru. Coombadjha is sacred to Bundjalung and Gambaingirr people.

I have posted an article as to how the Star Canopus validates the Puaranas and Tamil lterature.

Maori tribes have several names for Agastya/Canopus star:

Ariki= High born (one of the seven virtues of sages is high birth)

Atutahi, Aotahi = all these are corrupted form of AGATHI (ya)

Tapu = Tapas (penance).

 

Food is offered to the star as offering. This shows the respect and worship of Maoris.

One mythology says that Atutahi was left out of the basket when Tane wove it. This is a Hindu story where he was known to be born out of a pot (basket). Agastya is called Kumbha muni, Kalasi Suta, Ghatodbhava and Kumbha sambhava all meaning pot born or basket born. Atutahi sounds Agathi.

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The Southern Cross Star.

It is interesting to compare the veneration, worship, food offering and star status with that of the Hindu Agastya. Hindus also has his name in Sraddha mantra ( ancestor worship). Sanskrit saying praises him as the patron saint of the sailors:

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Agastya In New Zealand.

Agastyodaye jalani  prasidanti = when the star Agastya rises, the waters become calm.

Manu.

 

Now, interestingly, our history states that around 1000AD, a “new wave” of Polynesian peoples arrived in New Zealand (Maoris), speaking the Malayo-Polynesian tongues. Coincidence they arrived the same time as the Tamil Navigators here?

It is more plausible, since this is about the time of the great Sailendra Dynasty, that these Maori peoples speaking related languages to the Indonesians etc. of S. E. Asia, were distributed throughout the Pacific by Tamil traders and Ships, that arrived in New Zealand.

The sacred Maori serpent and water-monster is the Taniwha (pron. ‘Tani-pha’). New Zealand has no serpents, showing it is an imported myth, and these people have some kind of serpent-worship ancestory. We note that In Vedic Dharma, Twashtar is the Creator-God who was father of the Serpent-King Vritra. Perhaps this is who they trace their ancestory from.

The Maori tale states Maui (counterpart of Manu) pulled New Zealand out of the sea in the form of a Fish – relating to the Vedic tale of Manu and the fish, Matsya, who saved him. Maori, hence, also trace back to Manu Satyavrata – linking them, once again to Vedic mythology and Asia.

The Supreme of Maori society was known as “Ariki”, which meant Chief, Leader or Priest. It can hence be related to the term for Vedic Kshatriyas (warriors) and Brahmins (priests) – ‘Arya’ or Aryan, which denoted a noble – a common term used to denote the great Vedic peoples.

The Indonesian Malayo-Polynesian languages’ Indic shades are hence also found in the Polynesian branch, showing a direct link with India – and again supporting the view that maoris came across from these lands during the Sailendra reign, as migrants on Tamil ships.

The Maori word for the Sun is “Ra” – which is very close to ancient Egyptian and the Sanskrit Solar God-King Rama – of renown fame throughout Indonesia and other S. E. Asian lands through Ramayana. His triumph over the Rakshasas of Lanka who ruled S. E. Asian lands and freed them, is well-known. Ramayana mentions Yavadvipa (Java, Indonesia).

This, again, connects Maoris even closer with the Vedic culture of S. E. Asia and suggests the earlier Moriori were also an Indic peoples of this clan. For, how did the Tamils get here at the same time as Maori otherwise? New Zealand hence, must have been known.

Adhitya.

The Maori term for “God” or deity is “Atua” – close to the Vedic “Aditya” – meaning Luminary or Sun-God. It is also cognate to Deva or God in the Rig Veda, showing such Vedic ties, also.

In dress and architecture, the Maori resemble the Naga peoples of Eastern India and S. E. Asia and those of the Americas – hence forming one of the many Naga peoples. We note of the Nahuatl language in the Americas and the ancient King Nahush of ancient India – who became demonic and was cursed to become a Naga (serpent) by the Sage Agastya (who is associated with teaching in Southern India, Sri Lanka and S. E Asia).

The Maori also share the S. Indian flood tales, associated with Agastya. According to Bhagavata – Manu Satyavrata was a Dravida (S.Indian) King that sailed into Himalayas after the last flood, along with the Rishis. Dravida lands include Gujerat and Tamil Nadu – where ancient Kingdoms, some 7000 years old have recently been found under the waters.

The Legend of Maui fishing up Aotearoa

Whilst out fishing with his brothers in a canoe, Maui hauls a magnificent fish-land out of the sea which he caught on a hook made from the jaw bone of his sorcerer grandmother. The fish-land is complete with houses and birds.

Maui is worried what the Gods will think about what he’s done so he leaves his brothers to seek forgiveness.

His brothers argue over possession of the fish and their ensuing struggle leaves marks from their weapons on the face of the fish. These marks are the valleys and mountains of New Zealand.

The fish-land ‘Te ikaroa a Maui’ becomes the North Island the hook or ‘Te matau a Maui’ is Mahia peninsula in the Hawkes Bay. The canoe they brothers were fishing in ‘Te waka a Maui’ is now the South Island and the anchor holding the boat ‘Te punga a Maui’ is Stewart Island.

Taranga was the name of Maui’s mother, when he was born (the fifth son) she thought he was stillborn and so wrapped him in her tikitiki (hair-knot) and threw him into the sea. Maui was saved from the sea by his tupuna (ancestor) whom he learned magic from as he grew up.

Reference.

Legend of Maui

Maori Hindu Connection

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Hinduism, Tamils

Tamil Adhiyaman Ikshvahu Introduced Sugarcane To World


It is said that sugarcane was introduced to the world by New Guinea.

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Sugcarcane introduced by amilKing,and Ikshvahu.

‘Sugarcane is indigenous to tropical South and Southeast Asia.Different species likely originated in different locations, with Saccharum barberi originating in India and S. edule and S. officinarum in New Guinea. Approximately 70% of the sugar produced globally comes from S. officinarum and hybrids using this species. It is theorized that sugarcane was first domesticated as a crop in New Guinea around 6000 BC. New Guinean farmers and other early cultivators of sugarcane chewed the plant for its sweet juice. Early farmers in Southeast Asia, and elsewhere, may have also boiled the cane juice down to a viscous mass to facilitate transportation, but the earliest known production of crystalline sugar began in northern India. The exact date of the first cane sugar production is unclear. The earliest evidence of sugar production comes from ancient Sanskrit and Pali texts.’

Fact do no not support this.

Hindu Puranas state that  the Earth consisted of Seven Islands.

For details please read my post.

The Seven Islands and Seas.

Continent/ Island Ocean
Jambūdvīpa Lavanoda (Salt – ocean)
Ghatki Khand Kaloda (Black sea)
Puskarvardvīpa Puskaroda (Lotus Ocean)
Varunvardvīpa Varunoda (Varun Ocean)
Kshirvardvīpa Kshiroda (Ocean of milk)
Ghrutvardvīpa Ghrutoda (Ghee ocean)
Ikshuvardvīpa Iksuvaroda (Ocean of Sugarcane Juice)
Nandishwardvīpa Nandishwaroda

Goddess Lalithambika and God of Love,Manmatha hold Sugarcane in their hands.

Sugarcane abhisheka is performed for the Deities.

The ancestor and the founder of Lord Rama’s Dynasty,Ikshvahu name means ‘Sugarcane’

As I have posted earlier Ikshvahu’s ancestor, Satyavrata Manu,also called Vaivasvatha Manu,migrated from the South,Tamil Nadu with his sons to the North.

The Dravidas , people of the South,knew the cultivation of Sugarcane.

There is a mention of this in Tamil Poet,Avvayar’s poem on King Adhiyaman .

 

‘அரும்பெறல் மரபின் கரும்பு இவண் தந்தும்,
நீர்அக இருக்கை ஆழி சூட்டிய
தொன்னிலை மரபின் நின் முன்னோர் போல,
ஈகைஅம் கழற்கால் இரும்பனம் புடையல்,
பூவார் காவின், புனிற்றுப் புலால் நெடுவேல்,
எழுபொறி நாட்டத்து எழாஅத் தாயம்
வழுவின்று எய்தியும் அமையாய், செருவேட்டு,
இமிழ்குரல் முரசின் எழுவரொடு முரணிச்
சென்று, அமர் கடந்து, நின் ஆற்றல் தோற்றிய
அன்றும், பாடுநர்க்கு அரியை; இன்றும்
பரணன் பாடினன் மற்கொல், மற்று நீ
முரண் மிகு கோவலூர் நூறி, நின்
அரண் அடு திகிரி ஏந்திய தோளே!
வட்கர் போகிய வளரிளம் போந்தை
உச்சிக் கொண்ட ஊசி வெண்தோட்டு,

The Italicised portion means,’ you (Adhiyaman) has given the wolrd Sugarcane(Karumbu)

Tamils,Kannadgas and Telugus celebrate New year with Sugarcane, though the the first day of the New Year varies from the tamils for the Kannadigas and Telugus.

It may be noted that the Sanskrit word Sharkara is the root for the word Sugarcane.

 

Their first Thirthankara Rishabadeva (Adi Nath) was the one who taught the people of extraction of sugarcane juice. So he was known as Ikshvaku. Another version is that he took sugarcane juice after a year of fasting.( Jain Puranas)

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