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Manu Adhitya Adisesha Agastya In New Zealand Maoris

In Hinduism on February 15, 2015 at 07:50

Everything about Human migration started with Tsunami.

All world culture have reference to Tsunami or the Great Flood.

The  migration began.

Ancient Tamil literaure speaks of three Tsunamis.

And the land mass had a different look from what we know of  today.

We had two Super Continents Gondwana and Laurasia.

The landmass of India was connected most of Australia, Africa.

The legends and etymology of the cultures of the world point to Sanatana Dharma connection everywhere.

Now in this article we shall look into some of them  relating New Zealand.

References to Manu, Adhitya and Agastya are found in the Maori tribes of New Zealand.

Agastya.

 

‘The Gamilaraay or Kamilaroi (see below for other spellings) language is a Pama–Nyungan language of the Wiradhuric subgroup found mostly in south-east Australia. It was the traditional language of the Kamilaroi people, but is now moribund—according toEthnologue, there were only 35 speakers left in 2006, all mixing Gamilaraay and English.[6] However, there are thousands of people of mixed descent both within the native populations as well as immigrant populations, who identify themselves as Kamilaroi. Kamilaroi is also taught in some Australian schools.

The meaning of Southern Cross in the language is “meeting place under the Southern Cross’ .

Crux /ˈkrʌks/, located in the deep southern sky, is the smallest yet one of the most distinctive of the 88 modern constellations. Its name is Latin for cross, and it is dominated by a cross-shaped asterism that is commonly known as the Southern Cross. Although visible to the Ancient Greeks, it was seen as part of the constellation Centaurus, and not defined or accurately mapped till the 16th century.

It is he Trishanku spoken of in Hinduism.

This star was used to point the South as the Pole Star was to identify the North by the Navigators.

 

The star Canopus which was used as a south polar star for ship navigation in the southern hemisphere, was named for Agastya Kumbhaja. That Kumbhaja star rises in March near the Southern Cross as the Indian Ocean becomes
calm before the monsoon trade winds begin blowing from India towards Asia. Agastya also means “from the mind of Indra and Shiva”. 2500 years ago, Agastya Kumbhaja was the uncle of Kaundinya in Tamil Nadu, and a Kaundinya prince ruled the first Hindu kingdom in Cambodia, 2000 years ago. Australia has names and legends of the Southern Cross, and Gamilari language has a word meaning “meeting place under the Southern Cross’. The South Pole is on the axis of Meru. Coombadjha is sacred to Bundjalung and Gambaingirr people.

I have posted an article as to how the Star Canopus validates the Puaranas and Tamil lterature.

Maori tribes have several names for Agastya/Canopus star:

Ariki= High born (one of the seven virtues of sages is high birth)

Atutahi, Aotahi = all these are corrupted form of AGATHI (ya)

Tapu = Tapas (penance).

 

Food is offered to the star as offering. This shows the respect and worship of Maoris.

One mythology says that Atutahi was left out of the basket when Tane wove it. This is a Hindu story where he was known to be born out of a pot (basket). Agastya is called Kumbha muni, Kalasi Suta, Ghatodbhava and Kumbha sambhava all meaning pot born or basket born. Atutahi sounds Agathi.

The Southrn Cross Star.jpg

The Southern Cross Star.

It is interesting to compare the veneration, worship, food offering and star status with that of the Hindu Agastya. Hindus also has his name in Sraddha mantra ( ancestor worship). Sanskrit saying praises him as the patron saint of the sailors:

Agastya In New Zealand.jpg

Agastya In New Zealand.

Agastyodaye jalani  prasidanti = when the star Agastya rises, the waters become calm.

Manu.

 

Now, interestingly, our history states that around 1000AD, a “new wave” of Polynesian peoples arrived in New Zealand (Maoris), speaking the Malayo-Polynesian tongues. Coincidence they arrived the same time as the Tamil Navigators here?

It is more plausible, since this is about the time of the great Sailendra Dynasty, that these Maori peoples speaking related languages to the Indonesians etc. of S. E. Asia, were distributed throughout the Pacific by Tamil traders and Ships, that arrived in New Zealand.

The sacred Maori serpent and water-monster is the Taniwha (pron. ‘Tani-pha’). New Zealand has no serpents, showing it is an imported myth, and these people have some kind of serpent-worship ancestory. We note that In Vedic Dharma, Twashtar is the Creator-God who was father of the Serpent-King Vritra. Perhaps this is who they trace their ancestory from.

The Maori tale states Maui (counterpart of Manu) pulled New Zealand out of the sea in the form of a Fish – relating to the Vedic tale of Manu and the fish, Matsya, who saved him. Maori, hence, also trace back to Manu Satyavrata – linking them, once again to Vedic mythology and Asia.

The Supreme of Maori society was known as “Ariki”, which meant Chief, Leader or Priest. It can hence be related to the term for Vedic Kshatriyas (warriors) and Brahmins (priests) – ‘Arya’ or Aryan, which denoted a noble – a common term used to denote the great Vedic peoples.

The Indonesian Malayo-Polynesian languages’ Indic shades are hence also found in the Polynesian branch, showing a direct link with India – and again supporting the view that maoris came across from these lands during the Sailendra reign, as migrants on Tamil ships.

The Maori word for the Sun is “Ra” – which is very close to ancient Egyptian and the Sanskrit Solar God-King Rama – of renown fame throughout Indonesia and other S. E. Asian lands through Ramayana. His triumph over the Rakshasas of Lanka who ruled S. E. Asian lands and freed them, is well-known. Ramayana mentions Yavadvipa (Java, Indonesia).

This, again, connects Maoris even closer with the Vedic culture of S. E. Asia and suggests the earlier Moriori were also an Indic peoples of this clan. For, how did the Tamils get here at the same time as Maori otherwise? New Zealand hence, must have been known.

Adhitya.

The Maori term for “God” or deity is “Atua” – close to the Vedic “Aditya” – meaning Luminary or Sun-God. It is also cognate to Deva or God in the Rig Veda, showing such Vedic ties, also.

In dress and architecture, the Maori resemble the Naga peoples of Eastern India and S. E. Asia and those of the Americas – hence forming one of the many Naga peoples. We note of the Nahuatl language in the Americas and the ancient King Nahush of ancient India – who became demonic and was cursed to become a Naga (serpent) by the Sage Agastya (who is associated with teaching in Southern India, Sri Lanka and S. E Asia).

The Maori also share the S. Indian flood tales, associated with Agastya. According to Bhagavata – Manu Satyavrata was a Dravida (S.Indian) King that sailed into Himalayas after the last flood, along with the Rishis. Dravida lands include Gujerat and Tamil Nadu – where ancient Kingdoms, some 7000 years old have recently been found under the waters.

The Legend of Maui fishing up Aotearoa

Whilst out fishing with his brothers in a canoe, Maui hauls a magnificent fish-land out of the sea which he caught on a hook made from the jaw bone of his sorcerer grandmother. The fish-land is complete with houses and birds.

Maui is worried what the Gods will think about what he’s done so he leaves his brothers to seek forgiveness.

His brothers argue over possession of the fish and their ensuing struggle leaves marks from their weapons on the face of the fish. These marks are the valleys and mountains of New Zealand.

The fish-land ‘Te ikaroa a Maui’ becomes the North Island the hook or ‘Te matau a Maui’ is Mahia peninsula in the Hawkes Bay. The canoe they brothers were fishing in ‘Te waka a Maui’ is now the South Island and the anchor holding the boat ‘Te punga a Maui’ is Stewart Island.

Taranga was the name of Maui’s mother, when he was born (the fifth son) she thought he was stillborn and so wrapped him in her tikitiki (hair-knot) and threw him into the sea. Maui was saved from the sea by his tupuna (ancestor) whom he learned magic from as he grew up.

Reference.

Legend of Maui

Maori Hindu Connection

Tamil Adhiyaman Ikshvahu Introduced Sugarcane To World

In Hinduism, Tamils on February 9, 2015 at 18:04

It is said that sugarcane was introduced to the world by New Guinea.

Sugcarcane introduced by amilKing,and Ikshvahu.jpg

Sugcarcane introduced by amilKing,and Ikshvahu.

‘Sugarcane is indigenous to tropical South and Southeast Asia.Different species likely originated in different locations, with Saccharum barberi originating in India and S. edule and S. officinarum in New Guinea. Approximately 70% of the sugar produced globally comes from S. officinarum and hybrids using this species. It is theorized that sugarcane was first domesticated as a crop in New Guinea around 6000 BC. New Guinean farmers and other early cultivators of sugarcane chewed the plant for its sweet juice. Early farmers in Southeast Asia, and elsewhere, may have also boiled the cane juice down to a viscous mass to facilitate transportation, but the earliest known production of crystalline sugar began in northern India. The exact date of the first cane sugar production is unclear. The earliest evidence of sugar production comes from ancient Sanskrit and Pali texts.’

Fact do no not support this.

Hindu Puranas state that  the Earth consisted of Seven Islands.

For details please read my post.

The Seven Islands and Seas.

Continent/ Island Ocean
Jambūdvīpa Lavanoda (Salt – ocean)
Ghatki Khand Kaloda (Black sea)
Puskarvardvīpa Puskaroda (Lotus Ocean)
Varunvardvīpa Varunoda (Varun Ocean)
Kshirvardvīpa Kshiroda (Ocean of milk)
Ghrutvardvīpa Ghrutoda (Ghee ocean)
Ikshuvardvīpa Iksuvaroda (Ocean of Sugarcane Juice)
Nandishwardvīpa Nandishwaroda

Goddess Lalithambika and God of Love,Manmatha hold Sugarcane in their hands.

Sugarcane abhisheka is performed for the Deities.

The ancestor and the founder of Lord Rama’s Dynasty,Ikshvahu name means ‘Sugarcane’

As I have posted earlier Ikshvahu’s ancestor, Satyavrata Manu,also called Vaivasvatha Manu,migrated from the South,Tamil Nadu with his sons to the North.

The Dravidas , people of the South,knew the cultivation of Sugarcane.

There is a mention of this in Tamil Poet,Avvayar’s poem on King Adhiyaman .

 

‘அரும்பெறல் மரபின் கரும்பு இவண் தந்தும்,
நீர்அக இருக்கை ஆழி சூட்டிய
தொன்னிலை மரபின் நின் முன்னோர் போல,
ஈகைஅம் கழற்கால் இரும்பனம் புடையல்,
பூவார் காவின், புனிற்றுப் புலால் நெடுவேல்,
எழுபொறி நாட்டத்து எழாஅத் தாயம்
வழுவின்று எய்தியும் அமையாய், செருவேட்டு,
இமிழ்குரல் முரசின் எழுவரொடு முரணிச்
சென்று, அமர் கடந்து, நின் ஆற்றல் தோற்றிய
அன்றும், பாடுநர்க்கு அரியை; இன்றும்
பரணன் பாடினன் மற்கொல், மற்று நீ
முரண் மிகு கோவலூர் நூறி, நின்
அரண் அடு திகிரி ஏந்திய தோளே!
வட்கர் போகிய வளரிளம் போந்தை
உச்சிக் கொண்ட ஊசி வெண்தோட்டு,

The Italicised portion means,’ you (Adhiyaman) has given the wolrd Sugarcane(Karumbu)

Tamils,Kannadgas and Telugus celebrate New year with Sugarcane, though the the first day of the New Year varies from the tamils for the Kannadigas and Telugus.

It may be noted that the Sanskrit word Sharkara is the root for the word Sugarcane.

 

Their first Thirthankara Rishabadeva (Adi Nath) was the one who taught the people of extraction of sugarcane juice. So he was known as Ikshvaku. Another version is that he took sugarcane juice after a year of fasting.( Jain Puranas)

Manu Rama’s Ancestor Migrated From South India 5000 BC

In Hinduism, Tamils on December 30, 2014 at 20:33

We seem to accept legends,folklore from the West s History if they are quoted even if these sources are do not stand scrutiny.

Thus we have sources like Greek mythologies,Legends on Roman Empire,The Bible,legends associated with the Prophet.

When one studies them and try to cross reference them with archeological findings,astronomical phenomenon one comes with a near blank.

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Lord Rama

For instance, take the case of the Bible.

It the legends in the Bible are true,they should have some points of reference to astronomical phenomena which one can verify,or reference to them in world literature of its times,; no such references.

Or take the western History of Immigration and Human settlements in Europe,Latin America.

One is informed that there was an initial wave from the east,Asia, and these people settled themselves in Bulgaria, Yugoslavia.

Then the , second wave.

Now these people moved on to other parts of Europe and to Spain, Portugal, North Africa.

What is missing is the explanation as to from where did these people come from.

And these people were reported to have mingled with the people who were already living in these places.

If the first migration was from the East, how come there were people already living in these areas?

From where did they come?

For more on this, read my post Rama’s ancestor Dravida.

But the Puranas and Tamil Classics provide information that can be checked with astronomical phenomenon, cross checked with other literature, archeological findings.

One such information is the so-called Legends of the Tamil Sangams.

Sangams are Poets’ Conclaves held by the Tamil Kings.

There were three such Sangams held.

 

The Tamil Sangams or Cankams were assemblies of Tamil scholars and poets that, according to traditional Tamil accounts, occurred in the remote past. Scholars believe that these assemblies were originally known as kooṭam or gathering.[1][2][3] which was also a name for Madurai. Three assemblies are described. The legend has it that the first two of which were held in cities since “taken by the sea”, and the third of which was held during the 5th century BC in the present-day city of Madurai. The word sangam has its mention in the sense of an ‘academy’ in several Tamil literary works like Tevaram, Thiruvilayadal puranam, periyapuranam and Irayanar Ahaporul. Also legend has it that Nammazwar’s Thiruvaimozhi was approved in an assembly of 300 poets.[4]

The Sangam period extended from roughly 350 BC to 300 AD (early chola period before the interregnum), when the earliest extant works of Tamil literature were created (also known as Sangam literature).[5][6] However, the name Sangam and the associated legends probably derive from a much later period.[7] Whilst the accounts of first two Sangams are generally rejected as ahistorical, some modern scholars, such as Kamil Zvelebil,[8] find a kernel of truth in them, suggesting that they may be based on one or more actual historical assemblies. Others reject the entire notion as infactual.[9] Nevertheless, legends of the Sangams played a significant role in inspiring political, social, and literary movements in Tamil Nadu in the early 20th century.”

References to Sangams abound in Tamil Classics.Silappadikaram,Sangam Literature.

Sage Agasthya is reported to have formulated  the Tamil Language at the behest of lord Shiva.

This Agasthya is not a an imaginary figure.

His existence has been proved by checking up the fact of his crossing the Vindhya Mountains to proceed south on the orders of Lord Shiva to maintain the equilibrium f the earth.

By calculating the position of the Star Visaka and constellation Canopus Agasthya has been proved.

Agasthya’s date by this method is around 5000 BC.

 

If sage Agastya was the first to cross
the Vindhyas from the north, he would
have been the first northerner to see the
star. Hence the star has been named after
him, just as the Magellanic clouds in the
southern sky are named after the navigator Magellan,
who first saw them as he
sailed southwards.
This fixes an epoch of 5000 BC
for sage Agastya. This date is
based on the assumption that for a star to
be visible its meridian altitude has to be at least 5°
. If we make 8°meridian altitude as the criterion for visibility,
the date of Agastya would be shifted to about
4000 BC.
The dates 5000 and 4000 BC
should therefore bracket the probable epoch
of Agastya crossing the Vindhyan mountains.’

 

The Sangam dates to 9000 BC.

 

I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

 

That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.

 

Agasthya is referred to in the Ramayana Yuddhakanda asking Lord Rama in the battlefield to recite Adithya Hrudhayam.

 

Shabri is stated to be belonging to the Bhil tribe. Shri Rams’ army, which succeeded in defeating Ravana, was formed by various tribes from Central and South India.

 

Taking into account these details the Birth date of Lord Rama  is January 10 in the year 5114 BC

 

This and Agasthya’s date tally.

Therefore if Rama’s ancestor has left for Ayodhya from Dravida , it should have been before 5000 BC.

“Manu had many sons of whom 50 perished quarrelling with one another. Ten sons survived, one of whom was Ikshvaku.

The Brahma Purana (Chapters 7 and 8) provides details on Manu’s 10 sons and their descendents as follows.”(check the Link below).

 

This places the time Manu,Satyavrata Manu left Dravida Desa, South India around 5000 BC.

This is corroborated by the end of The  Second Sangam period by Tsunami.

That is 9000-3700=5300 BC

 

If credence is given to the commentary of Irayanar Ahapporul, the beginning of sangam should be placed somewhere in 9000 B.C.

The second Sangam (iṭaicaṅkam)idaichangam was convened in Kapatapuram. This Sangam lasted for 3700 years and had 59 members, with 3700 poets participating.”

Citation.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/08/09/ramas-ancestor-manu-dravida-bhagavatha-purana/

 

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/ramayana-lord-ramas-exile-date-and-other-details/

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Sangams#Sangam_legends

 

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/lord-ramas-dynasty-ancestors-descendants-list/

 

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/agastya-canopus-validates-sanatan-dharma-tamil-dates/

Tamil Chola Kings Descendants of Manu Rama

In Hindusim, Tamils on December 8, 2014 at 21:20

If there is one One culture ,One advanced civilization that matches the Sanatana Dharma, it is the Tamil Culture, Literature .

 

It has been in existence for such a long period that the Vedas and Puranas quote Tamil language,Culture,Spices,Pearls,Elephant Tusks, Tamil Scholars.

 

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Chola Dyansty Time Line.

 

Valmiki has written a Tamil Classic,Vanmikar Arupthu,Vlmiki’s Sixty, a work dealing with practical life and Philosophy.

 

Ramayana describes the princes from Tail Kingdom being present in Sita’s Swamvar.

 

Mahabharata speaks similarly on Draupadi’s Swayamvar.

 

Chera King Udiyan Chralathan fed both the Panadava and kaurava Armies during the Mahabharata War.

 

The Pandya King fought along with the Pandavas as the Pandya Princess was married to Arjuna.

 

Krishna  married a Pandyan Princess,Pandyah, Megasthanes says and had a daughter through her.

 

Arjuna married a Pandya Princess and had a son Babruvahana, who was the only person who killed Arjuna,that Arjuna was revived is another matter.

 

In its turn Tamil quotes extensively the Vedas.

 

A King Sibi was the ancestor of Rama.

 

There are numerous references  that speak of the close relationship of the South Dravida with the Sanatana Dharma.

 

I have posted extensively on this in posts where it is warranted(Under Hinduism/Tamils)

 

I have posted an article, based on archeological, geographical evidence that Lord Rama’s ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from the South to Ayodhya to found  his kingdom.

 

Shiva with his son Ganesha left by the Arabian sea towards the middle east.

 

Now let us consider the following .

 

Tamil People settlement dates back to Palaeolithic Age.

 

That is Prehistoric Age, 1,510,000 BCE until around 3000 BCE.

 

A discovery of a rare fossilized baby brain in Viluppuram district, by a team of archeologists was reported in April 2003, It is estimated to be about 187,000 years – 200,000 years or older.

Then came the Neolithic and Iron Ages.

 

Considering the fact that Sibi and manu Needi were Cholas and are quoted by extensively by Puranas and Tamil Literature, there is definitely a possibility that the Cholas descended from the  Solar Dynasty.

 

Cross checking with the Thirvalangadu Copperplate, the Dynasty of the Tamil Kings are traced back to Solar Dynasty.

 

Genealogy from the Chola Inscriptions.

 

  • Manu
  • Ikshvaku
  • Vikukshi
  • Puranjaya
  • Kakutstha
  • Kakshivat
  • Aryaman
  • Analapratapa
  • Vena
  • Prithu
  • Dhundhumara
  • Yuvanasva
  • Mandhatri
  • Muchukunda
  • Valabha
  • Prithulaksha
  • Parthivachudamani
  • Dirghabahu
  • Chandrajit
  • Sankriti
  • Panchapa
  • Satyavrata
  • Rudrajit
  • Sibi
  • Marutta
  • Dushyanta
  • Bharata
  • Cholavarman
  • Rajakesarivarman
  • Parakesarin
  • Chitraratha
  • Chitrasva
  • Chitradhanvan
  • Suraguru (Mrityujit)
  • Chitraratha
  • Vyaghraketu
  • Narendrapati
  • Vasu (Uparichara)
  • Visvajit
  • Perunatkilli
  • Karikala
  • Kochchengannan

Genealogy from the Purana Timeline.

 

  • Eri Oliyan Vaendhi C. 3020 BCE
  • Maandhuvaazhi C. 2980 BCE
  • El Mei Nannan C. 2945 BCE
  • Keezhai Kinjuvan C. 2995 BCE
  • Vazhisai Nannan C. 2865 BCE
  • Mei Kiyagusi Aerru C. 2820 BCE
  • Aai Kuzhi Agusi Aerru C. 2810 BCE
  • Thizhagan Maandhi C. 2800 BCE
  • Maandhi Vaelan C. 2770 BCE
  • Aai Adumban C. 2725 BCE
  • Aai Nedun jaet chozha thagaiyan C. 2710 BCE
  • El Mei Agguvan a.k.a. Keezh nedu mannan C. 2680 BCE
  • Mudiko Mei Kaalaiyam Thagaiyan C. 2650 BCE
  • Ilangok keezh kaalaiyan thagaiyan a.k.a. Ilangeezh nannan C. 2645 BCE -start of Kadamba lineage by his brother Aai Keezh Nannan
  • Kaalaiyan gudingyan C. 2630 BCE
  • Nedun gaalayan dhagayan C. 2615 BCE
  • Vaengai nedu vael varaiyan C.2614 BCE
  • Vaet kaal kudingyan C. 2600 BCE
  • Maei Ila vael varaiyan C. 2590 BCE
  • Sibi Vendhi C. 2580 BCE
  • Paru nonji chaamazhingyan C. 2535 BCE
  • Vaeqratrtri chembiya chozhan C. 2525 BCE
  • Saamazhi chozhiya vaelaan C. 2515 BCE
  • Uthi ven gaalai thagan C. 2495 BCE
  • Nannan that kaalai thagan C. 2475 BCE
  • Vel vaen mindi C. 2445 BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 2415 BCE
  • Nedu nonji Vendhi C. 2375 BCE
  • Maei Vael paqratrtri C. 2330 BCE
  • Aai Perun thoan nonji C. 2315 BCE
  • Kudiko pungi C. 2275 BCE
  • Perun goep poguvan C. 2250 BCE
  • Koeth thatrtri C. 2195 BCE
  • Vadi sembiyan C. 2160 BCE
  • Aalam poguvan C. 2110 BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 2085 BCE
  • Perum paeyar poguvan C. 2056 BCE
  • Kadun jembiyan C. 2033 BCE
  • Nedun kathan C. 2015 BCE
  • Paru nakkan C. 1960 BCE
  • Vani sembiyan C. 1927 BCE
  • Udha chira mondhuvan C. 1902 BCE
  • Perun kaththan C. 1875 BCE
  • Kadun kandhalan C. 1860 BCE
  • Nakka monjuvan C. 1799 BCE
  • Maarko vael Maandhuvan Aaththikko C. 1786 BCE
  • Musukunthan Vaendhi C. 1753 BCE
  • Peru nakkan Thatrtri C. 1723 BCE
  • Vaer kaththan C. 1703 BCE
  • Ambalaththu Irumundruvan C. 1682 BCE
  • Kaari mondhuvan C. 1640 BCE
  • Vennakkan Thatrtri C. 1615 BCE
  • Maarko chunthuvan C. 1565 BCE
  • Vaer parunthoan mundruvan C. 1520 BCE
  • Udhan kaththan C. 1455 BCE
  • Kaariko sunthuvan C. 1440 BCE
  • Vendri nungunan C. 1396 BCE
  • Mondhuvan Vendhi C. 1376 BCE
  • Kaandhaman C. 1359 BCE
  • Mundruvan Vendhi C. 1337 BCE
  • Kaandhaman C. 1297 BCE
  • Monjuvan Vendhi C. 1276 BCE
  • Ani sembiyan C. 1259 BCE
  • Nungunan Vendhi C. 1245 BCE
  • Maarkop perum Cenni C. 1229 BCE
  • Monjuvan Nanvendhi C. 1180 BCE
  • Kop perunar chenni C. 1170 BCE
  • Monthuvan jembiyan C. 1145 BCE
  • Narchenni C. 1105 BCE
  • Caet chembiyan C. 1095 BCE
  • Nakkar chenni C. 1060 BCE
  • Parun jembiyan C.1045 BCE
  • Venjenni C. 998 BCE
  • Musugunthan C. 989 BCE
  • Maarkop perun jembiyan C. 960 BCE
  • Nedunjenni C.935 BCE
  • Thatchembiyan C. 915 BCE
  • Ambalaththu iruvaer chembiyan C. 895 BCE
  • Kaariko chenni C. 865 BCE
  • Venvaer chenni C. 830 BCE
  • Kaandhaman, C. 788 BCE
  • Kaandhalan C. 721 BCE
  • Caetchenni C. 698 BCE
  • Vani nungunan C. 680 BCE
  • Mudhu sembiyan Vendhi C. 640 BCE
  • Peelan jembiyach chozhiyan C. 615 BCE
  • Maeyan gadungo C. 590 BCE
  • Thiththan C. 570 BCE
  • Perunar killi Porvaiko C. 515 BCE
  • Kadu mundruvan C. 496 BCE
  • Kopperunjozhan C. 495 BCE
  • Narkilli Mudiththalai C. 480 BCE
  • Thevvan go chozhan C. 465 BCE
  • Naran jembiyan C. 455 BCE
  • Nakkam peela valavan C. 440 BCE
  • Iniyan thevvan jenni C. 410 BCE
  • Varcembiyan C. 395BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 386 BCE
  • Nakkan aran jozhan C. 345 BCE
  • Ambalathu irungoch chenni C. 330 BCE
  • Perunar killi C. 316 BCE
  • Kochaet Cenni C. 286 BCE
  • Cerupazhi Erinda Ilanjaetcenni, C. 275 BCE
  • Nedungop perunkilli C. 220 BCE
  • Cenni Ellagan C. 205 BCE
  • Perun gilli C. 165 BCE
  • Kopperun jozhiyav ilanjaetcenni C. 140 BCE
  • Perunar killi Mudiththalai ko C. 120 BCE
  • PerumpootCenni C. 100 BCE
  • Ilam perunjenni C. 100 BCE
  • Perungilli Vendhi aka Karikaalan I C. 70 BCE
  • Nedumudi Killi C. 35 BCE
  • Ilavanthigaipalli Thunjiya Maei Nalangilli Caet Cenni, C. 20 BCE
  • Aai Vaenalangilli C. 15 BCE
  • Uruvapakraer Ilanjaetcenni, C. 10 – 16 CE
  • 16 CE – 30 CE Kingdom ruled by a series of Uraiyur chieftains
  • Karikaalan II Peruvalaththaan, C. 31 CE
  • Vaer paqradakkai Perunar killi, C. 99 CE
  • Perun thiru mavalavan, Kuraapalli Thunjiya C. 99 CE
  • Nalangilli C. 111 CE
  • Perunarkilli, Kula mutrtraththu Thunjiya C. 120 CE
  • Perunarkilli, Irasasuya vaetta C. 143 CE
  • Vael kadunkilli C. 192 CE
  • Kochenganaan C. 220 CE
  • Nalluruththiran C. 245 CE

Many scholars dispute this despite evidence from from the Puranas and Chola Inscriptions.

 

Purana evidence is disputed despite the fact the geographical features mentioned in them, Kings reign tally with other verified facts and accredited by archeology.

 

Chola inscription are also not due credence because it happens to be excavated mostly by Indians and it does not agree with the concocted story of Aryan Invasion Theory.

 

What a scholarship!

 

The fact that Ramas’ ancestor was from the South, the Floods mentioned in the Tamil Classics tally with this event, I am of the opinion that the Cholas descended from te common parentage of Lord Rama.

 

One group migrated to North, another towards  the Middle-east and yet another survived and stayed back in the south.

 

* I will be tracing the Pandya and Chra Dynasty as well.

 

Citations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hinduism On Children Illegitimate Children

In Hinduism on October 23, 2014 at 11:52

Hinduism accords importance to Familial relationships.

 

Duties of each member of the Family is set,Man,Wife,children,Brother,Sister and elders.

 

However the emphasis  is more on the duties of the son.

 

Hindu Symbol OM.jpg

Hindu Symbol OM

 

Hinduism considers the begetting of a male child to be auspicious as they believe that the son prevents the parents entering the Hell called ‘Puth’

 

The name for son is Puthra, one who prevents parents from entering Puth.

 

The Smritis state that a son is to be treated as,

 

a King till he is Five years old.

 

as Slave from 5 to Fifteen and

 

a friend after Fifteen years.

 

A son is not to be praised in his face.

 

His mistakes are to be pointed out.

 

a son has to be educated within one’s  means.

 

As children can not understand the difficulties of running a family(till they are fifteen NoFamily affairs are not to be discussed with them nor their opinion sought even for their education.

 

Once they are married all decisions are to be taken after discussing with them, not necessarily following them.

 

They have to be taught etiquette  and discipline as set forth in the Taittriya Upanishad in Siksha Valli.

 

The son , when he comes of age is expected to run the family and he parents have to maintain themselves , either by staying in the family or withdrawing to the forest as a vanaprastha.

 

If the Mother is not willing she has to be left in the care of the son.

 

The son  is the Guardian of the Mother.

 

The son is the next authority in running the Family and he has to take of his sisters as a father.

 

His wife occupies the next place in the Family after the Mother and Father.

 

The son is to perform the Funeral rites of the Parents.

 

He shall perform all the duties of  the Father, including  the performance of all Poojas and Rituals prescribed for the Family, after the Seemantha for his wife is performed.

 

If a Man does not have a child, he has to adopt his daughter’s child as his son.

 

Following ceremonies are performed for the Son.

 

1.Punyahavachana.

2.Namakarana, naming the child.

3.Ayush Homa till he attains Five Years.

4.Ear-piercing,Karnabhushana.

5.Head tonsuring.

6.Upanayana.

7.Marriage.

8.Seemantha for His wife.

 

Illegitimate children.

 

Children of an Unmarried woman,

 

Child of son’s pregnant Bride,

 

Son of twice married woman,

 

Son of an adopted daughter,

 

Adopted son,

 

All belong to the family

 

In the absence of legitimate  children, the illegitimate children  receive one-fourth of the Estate.

 

Gautama Sutra 28.18.

 

Manu on Illegitimate Children

By the sacred tradition the woman is declared to be the soil (or the field), the man is declared to be the seed; the production of all corporeal beings takes place through the union of the soil with the seed.” (Manu. IX.33)

“Those who, having no property in a field, but possessing seed-corn, sow it in another’s soil, do not receive the grain of the crop which may spring forth.” (Manu.IX.49)

“If (one man’s) bull were to beget a hundred calves on another man’s cows, they (i.e., the calves) would belong to the owner of the cows; in vain would the bull have spent its strength.” (Manu.IX.50)

“Thus men who have no marital property in women, but sow their seed in the soil of others, benefit the owner of the woman; but the giver of the seed reaps no benefit.” (Manu.IX.51)

 

Citation.

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/advaitin/conversations/messages/55496

 

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_children.asp

 

 

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