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Tantra Tamils Sanatana Dharma Judaism


When I research into the relationship or influence one over another Sanatana Dharma and

Tamils, Shiva and Tamils,Shiva and Sanatana Dharma, I recall the description of Russia by Winston Churchill,

Churchill describes Russia.

Churchill on Russia

Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.’
One may replace the term Russia with Tamil and Sanatana Dharma.
Consider the following facts.
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SAT Chakra Nirupana

  1. Thiruvannamalai ,Tamil Nadu is 3.94 Million Years old.
  2. .Thirupati 2100 Millon years old.
  3. Jwalapuram, Cudaapah 74,000 old.
  4. Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu is 20,00 years old, at least!
  5. Million year old Kannada Brahmi script is found in Karnataka.
  6. A million year old advanced Tamil civilization site is found in Chennai.

The riddle is all these quote the Vedas, the scripture of the Hindus!

The Vedas refer to Tamils and others in the south as Dravidas!!

Which precedes the other is a mystery!.

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Bathing of Shiiva Linga,Thanjavur

And consider that though the worship of Shiva is prominent is North now, Vedas make only a passing reference to Shiva in the Sri Rudram .

However Tamil Literature abounds in Shiva history.

Shiva is believed be the founder of Tamil, an ancient language of India.

It is  a rich language with totally a different linguistic structure from the other languages of India which have their roots in Sanskrit!

Surbrahmanya, son of Shiva is not mentioned in the Vedas as such but by the name Skanda.

The history of Shiva stops with His marriage to Devi in North Indian Traditions.

Nothing more is heard of Him there.

In the south His activities are detailed and they are listed only in the Linga Purana and shiva Purana though not as detailed as in Tamil

Sage Agastya seems to have been the bridge between the North and South.

Lord Ram’s ancestor Vaivastha Manu meditated in the South near Madagascar.

Shiva seems to  migrated westwards from the south because of a Tsunami recorded in world literature and  with more graphic description in Classical Tamil Sangam Literature.

The finding of artifacts in the west, from Saudi Arabia onward to Arctic through Africa, Europe, Russia and again in the Urals( which date  later to the findings of those found in the west)along with Ganesha confirm that Shiva traveled from the middle east towards the Arctic only to come back to India.

And this has been misinterpreted as Aryan Invasion!

Add to this,

1.Lord Rama waged a war with Atlantean people in support of Lemurians to which area he belonged to.

2.Manu tribe and later Yadava tribe migrated to middle east.

3.Sumerian kings list mentions Rama, Dasaratha and Bharatha as Kings.

4.Tamil practices like Makara Sankaranthis is celebrated in Central Ameirca.

5.Hanuman temple is found in Hinduras

6.Manu is Noah.

‘Twenty two tribes left India after the Mahabharata War.

Of the 22 tribes that left the region in quick succession, the tem that preceded North met with disaster and perished.

Out of the remaining 12 a few families dropped off and settled down in regions currently known as Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Egypt Greece and Russia.
That great exodus took place 5,743 years ago. The Passover year which the Jews commemorate provides a tally of the period elapsed from the time they left India. … One of their monarchs was Solomon’

Judaism has its roots in Sanatana Dharma.

There is a research paper, probably with no access to to Bharat Varsha’s Sanatna Dharma history has made an interesting observation on the Dravidas, tantras, and Sanatana dharma, though presenting the case in reverse.

That is Abraham sent his children to India and they met with Dravidians!

Archeological finds of Sanatana dharma predate Judaism History.

Hebrew Qabalah and the North Indian Tantra

Some Qabalists believe that the Semitic mystical tradition reached well beyond the geographical boundaries of the Tigris-Euphrates Valley. Archeological evidence has shown that the trade routes between the Tigris-Euphrates and the Indus Valleys were actively traversed as early as 10,000 BCE.35 When the Indian Buddhists went to China, they were made privy by its rulers to old Chinese texts that described voyages of large junks from the South China Seas to India (at a time when the Saraswati River still ran all the way to the sea), to the Sinai Peninsula, down the western African coast, and beyond. In ancient times, traders were largely the principal conduits for transmitting a variety of information among diverse cultures, including mystical information. It is highly likely that such information traveled to and from the Indus Valley and the Sinai Peninsula along such ancient merchant routes. The arm of historical certainty as yet does not reach very far back in human history, but more and more information is coming to light that confirms worldwide sea travel by ancient Chinese, Mediterranean, and Indonesian cultures long before the relatively recent “discoveries” made by Western Europeans.

In the Lech Lecha section of Torah B’reshith (the Book of Genesis, named “B’reshith” after its first word), several generations of Abraham’s children by Keturah and a number of his concubines are listed. Abraham divided up the branches of his family, “giving them gifts” and sending those children by his concubines “east to the east country.”36 One interpretation of this passage holds that “east country” refers to an area in Syria or Jordan. Another theory postulates that these children of Abraham emigrated east to India over long established sea or overland trade routes, where they established the monotheistic religion of Shiva/Shakti long before the invasion of the Aryans down from the Persian steppes. The sea route could have gone through the Gulf of Aqaba, down the Red Sea, through the Gulf of Aden along the coast of Yemen and Oman, across the Arabian Sea to the mouth of the Indus River, and up into the Indus Valley. In India, this religion is called Tantra, and is often referred to in the West as “the Tantras.” When the Aryans invaded Northern India in the fourteenth century BCE, they encountered a dark-skinned people inhabiting the Sandya Hills above the Indus Valley, for whom the Tantric traditions and rituals of Shiva/Shakti were centuries old.

The Tantric tradition is one of the most poorly understood and misrepresented of the world’s mystical traditions. The written books of the Tantras (called Tantra Shastra), such as the Mahanirvana Tantra and the Satchakracidrupini, are distinct from the Vedic/Upanishadic literature of the Sanatana Dharma. Many of the primary names of the Divine in the Tantras, such as Shiva and Kali, are also found in the Hebrew Torah. The map of the Sefiroth (lit. Spheres) in the Tree of Life (etz ha-chayyim) and the map of the Chakras (lit. Wheels) of the Tantras have much in common. The Kundalini spoken of in the Tantras and the Shekhinah of the Qabalah appear to have the same function. The Kundalini is described as a coiled snake asleep at the base of the Chakric Tree. On page 12 of the Introduction to Tantra Shastra, Sir John Woodroffe says:

Kundalini means ‘coiled.’ Hence, Kundalini, whose form is that of a coiled serpent, means ‘that which is coiled.’ She is the luminous vital energy (Jivashakti) which manifests as prana [ed. same as qi in Chinese, and ruach in Hebrew]. She sleeps in the Muladhara Chakra (Sefirah Kingdom on the Hebrew Tree of Life), and has three and a half coils corresponding in number with the three and half bindus (knots). When, after closing the ears, the sound of Her hissing is not heard, then death approaches.”

Both the Chakric Tree Chakric Tree and the qabalistic Tree of Life have three structural channels. The central channel on the Chakric Tree is called the “Shushumna.” The central channel on the qabalistic Tree is denoted as the “Central Column.” The side channels on the Chakric Tree are called the “Ida” and the “Pingala;” and on the qabalistic Tree, the “Columns of the Right and the Left.” The side channels play a much more prominent role in the Qabalah than they do in the Tantras.

The Kundalini, as Chitshakti (the energy of consciousness), awakens and ascends the Chakric Tree, opening the Chakric lotuses along the Shushumna on Her way to unite with Her Husband Shiva in the Ajna Chakra at the forehead. The ascent by the Kundalini is also called the Satchakrabheda, the “Piercing of the Six Centers.” In the Chintamanistava, attributed to the incarnate sage Sri Shankaracharya, it says:

“This family woman (Kundalini), entering the royal road (Shushumna, Central Column of the Tree), taking rest at intervals in the secret places (Chakras, Sefiroth), embraces the Supreme Spouse (in the Ajna Chakra, forehead center) and makes the nectar to flow (in the Sahasrara Chakra, Sefirah Crown/Above).”

The ascent of the Tree of Life by the Shekhinah is called Shabat (tbs, Sabbath). The Shekhinah is said to be in exile in the Lower Worlds. On the Sabbath, She ascends via the Sefiroth (Spheres) of the Central Column of the Tree of Life and unites with Her Husband Lord YHVH in the Upper Worlds. This is echoed in the song of Rabbi Yitza’aq Luria, commonly found in Hebrew prayer books:

Lekah Dodee Likraht Calah Penay Shabat neQabalah.”
(“Come my Beloved to meet the Bride, Face of Sabbath to receive.”)

The meditation practices employed by both Mystical Qabalists and Tantrikas involve a coordinated use of mantra and yantra.’

Let me add that the Tantra and yogic practices of South India are slightly different from the one practiced in the north as the system of Siddhar’s Yoga is different from Patankali’s Yoga.

The Vaasi Yoga is close to the techniques in Judaism

*Please read my articles on each of the points I have made in this article.

Reference and citation in Block quote

http://www.workofthechariot.com/TextFiles/Back-Tantra.html

 

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Madagascar In Super Continent Nat Geo Confirms Ramayana?


Archaeological finds throughout the world suggest the existence of super Continents.

Coastlines of the present Continents, presence of flora and fauna as fossils found in various places where they had no business to be , rock formations, the artifacts of a different culture than the one present, mostly from other Continents all suggest the existence of different  landmass long back.

The fact that,

Thiruvannamalai, India is 3.93 Billion years old,,

Tirupati 2100 Million Years old,

Jwalapuram, Telengana, india 74,000 years old,

the finding of a Brahmin with  Tuft in Gobbleki Tepe , Turkey,

Nazca lines of Peru, being described in the Ramayana,

Shiva’s third eye Dance being performed by the Aborigines of Australia ,

Hanuman’s and his son’s temple in Honduras,

Rama being mentioned as a King of Sumeria,

The unique Tamil style of celebrating  Makara Sankaranti in South  America.,

……

all this point out to a land mass encompassing the present countries as a Super Continent.

And we have Atlantis and Lemuria to contend with.

Please read my articles on each of these.

I have written an article on the fact that Satyavrata Manu of Lord Rama ancestor,

having meditated near Madagascar  thousands of years ago long way from the present geographical location of the present India.

The reference is found in the Ramayana an the Matsya Purana.

The Ramayana took place in the Treta Yuga, about two million years ago.

Seems to be fairy tale!

Not so.

Consider the evidence.

According to Srimad Bhagavatam 3.1 which is dated at 200 BCE-200CE, the Yugas are much longer, namely 1,728,000 years, 1,296,000 years, 864,000 years and 432,000 years:

The duration of the Satya millennium equals 4,800 years of the demigods; the duration of the Dvāpara millennium equals 2,400 years; and that of the Kali millennium is 1,200 years of the demigods […] As aforementioned, one year of the demigods is equal to 360 years of the human beings. The duration of the Satya-yuga is therefore 4,800 x 360, or 1,728,000 years. The duration of the Tretā-yuga is 3,600 x 360, or 1,296,000 years. The duration of the Dvāpara-yuga is 2,400 x 360, or 864,000 years. And the last, the Kali-yuga, is 1,200 x 360, or 432,000 years in total.

 

Seetha came together with Rama like the light with the Sun. Rama also was seen by me to be mounted on a great elephant with four tusks and equalling a mountain and Rama wandered together with Lakshmana.”

 

(Sundara Kanda Sarga 27 , Verse 12)

 

Now  History of Biology proves that,

 

“The Gomphotheriidae were a diverse taxonomic family of extinct elephant-like animals (proboscideans). Referred to as gomphotheres, they were widespread in North America during the Miocene and Pliocene epochs, 12–1.6 million years ago. Some lived in parts of Eurasia,Beringia and, following the Great American Interchange, South America. Beginning about 5 million years ago, they were gradually replaced by modern elephants, but the last two South American species, in the genus Cuvieronius, did not finally become extinct until possibly as recently as 9,100 BP, and Stegomastodon remains have been dated as recently as 6,060 BP in the Valle del Magdalena, Colombia. Gomphotheres also survived in Mexico and Central America until the end of the Pleistocene

 

Ramayana took place in the Treta Yuga, according to Valmiki and other Puranas.

Rama date one million years

Why this obsession with a Mountain?

I recalled an article I had written on Satyavrata Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama, having lived in the South and migrated to Ayodhya, because of a Great Flood and whose son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

And this Satyavrata Manu is associated with the Great Flood and he is reported to have meditated in a Mountain.

Satyavrata Manu meditated In Madagascar

Now consider the latest finding about a micro continent in the Indian Ocean from National Geographic.

This opens the possibility of what has been said in the Ramayana  and the Puaranas about the land mass to be true and that the events were not a figment of imagination

 

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Evidence of a drowned “microcontinent” has been found in sand grains from the beaches of a small Indian Ocean island, scientists say.

A well-known tourist destination, Mauritius (map) is located about 1,200 miles (2,000 kilometers) off the coast of Africa, east of Madagascar. Scientists think the tiny island formed some nine million years ago from cooling lava spewed by undersea volcanoes.

But recently, researchers have found sand grains on Mauritius that contain fragments of the mineral zircon that are far older than the island, between 660 million and about 2 billion years old.

In a new study, detailed in the current issue of the journal Nature Geoscience, scientists concluded that the older minerals once belonged to a now vanished landmass, tiny bits of which were dragged up to the surface during the formation of Mauritius. (Also see “World’s Oldest Rocks Suggest Early Earth Was Habitable.”)

“When lavas moved through continental material on the way towards the surface, they picked up a few rocks containing zircon,” study co-authorBjørn Jamtveit, a geologist at the University of Oslo in Norway, explained in an email.

Most of these rocks probably disintegrated and melted due to the high temperatures of the lavas, but some grains of zircons survived and were frozen into the lavas [during the eruption] and rolled down to form rocks on the Mauritian surface.”

Prehistoric Atlantis

Jamtveit and his colleagues estimate that the lost microcontinent, which they have dubbed Mauritia, was about a quarter of the size of Madagascar (map).

Furthermore, based on a recalculation of how the ancient continents drifted apart, the scientists concluded that Mauritia was once a tiny part of a much larger “supercontinent” that included India and Madagascar, called Rodinia.

The three landmasses “were tucked together in one big continent prior to the formation of the Indian Ocean,” Jamtveit said.

But like a prehistoric Atlantis, Mauritia was eventually drowned beneath the waves when India broke apart from Madagascar about 85 million years ago. (Also see “Slimmer Indian Continent Drifted Ten Times Faster.”)

Ancient Rocks

Scientists have long suspected that volcanic islands might contain evidence of lost continents, and Jamtveit and his team decided to test this hypothesis during a layover in Mauritius as part of a longer research trip in 1999

The stop in tropical Mauritius “was a very tempting thing to do for a Norwegian in the cold month of January,” Jamtveit said.

Mauritius was a good test site because it was a relatively young island and, being formed from ocean lava, would not naturally contain zircon, a toughmineral that doesn’t weather easily.

If zircon older than nine million years was found on Mauritius, it would be good evidence of the presence of buried continental material, Jamtveit explained.

At first, the scientists crushed rocks from Mauritius to extract the zircon crystals, but this proved difficult because the crushing equipment contained zircon from other sites, raising the issue of contamination.

“That was a show stopper for a while,” Jamtveit said.

A few years later, however, some members of the team returned to Mauritius and this time brought back sand from two different beaches for sampling.

The scientists extracted 20 zircon samples and successfully dated 8 of them by calculating the rate that the elements uranium and thorium inside of the samples slowly break down into lead.

“They all provided much older ages than the age of the Mauritius lavas,” Jamtveit said. “In fact they gave ages consistent with the ages of known continental rocks in Madagascar, Seychelles, and India.”

Missing Evidence?

Jérôme Dyment, a geologist at the Paris Institute of Earth Physics in France, said he’s unconvinced by the work because it’s possible that the ancient zircons found their way to the island by other means, for example as part of ship ballast or modern construction material.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, which are not given by the authors so far,” said Dyment, who did not participate in the research.

“Finding zircons in sand is one thing, finding them within a rock is another one … Finding the enclave of deep rocks that, according to the author’s inference, bring them to the surface during an eruption would be much more convincing evidence.”

Dyment added that if Mauritia was real, evidence for its existence should be found as part of a joint French and German experiment that installed deep-sea seismometers to investigate Earth’s mantle around Réunion Island, which is situated about 120 miles (200 kilometers) from Mauritius.

Citation and Reference. for quoted text and images National Geographic

India was near North Pole

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga#Durations_of_the_four_yugas

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/02/130225-microcontinent-earth-mauritius-geology-science/

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Brahmin Bashing Justified?


It is customary to to point out fingers at Brahmins for everything.

This has been the favorite pastime over the last 50 to 60 years.

Prior to this Brahmins were respected for their contribution to the society.

The advent of Moguls saw a shift in the approach of other communities in India towards the Brahmins.

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The first act of forcing a Brahmin into circumcision  was committed by Mir Qasim, the Invader and he sowed the seeds of mistrust among the other communities about Brahmins

This was followed by all the subsequent rulers and the mistrust reached its zenith during the British regime in India.

The Britishers knew ,as well as the Portugese that so long as Brahmins were respected their religion,Christianity could not grow its roots in India.

The objective was clear to them,

Sow the mistrust and reap the rewards.

This has been paying dividends to such an extent that Brahmins are driven to their back foot, most of them migrating to other states in India where there is relatively less persecution.

Before I proceed further let me narrate two incidents.

About ten years back( I was 55 then), my family went to out maternal grandfathers Naive village, Anaippatti aks Akkaraippatti, Madurai District en route from Madurai to Palani,Tamil Nadu.

My grandfather was a zamindar of sorts then.

When I walked down the fields( we own nothing there in the village now), an elderly man of about 75 years, he was not a Brahmin, looked at me keenly and asked me thus.

Sir, Are you related to Ramaiya Sami ( Ramaih is my grandfathers known name and Sami is a term of repspect in Tamil),

‘Yes,I am his grandson.

Immediately he unwound the turban he had on his head and kept it in his armpit.

I asked him why he should do this.

He replied that it is a form of respect.

I asked him why should he do this and was it because he was scared  of my grandfather when he was alive.

He was greatly agitated and stated that that my grandfather was like the head of his Family and he would always to him for help and advice

And the he was what he was because of my grandfather .

and all the families in the village felt the same way.

I again asked him hat may be he was right but where was the necessity for him to do the honor to me.

He replied if he did not do that even God would not forgive him for his ingratitude!

This noble man , in modern society is classified as a Dalit

Another  instance.

I was on a pilgrimage tour to   and surrounding places.

I stayed in a small village nearby in the Home of elderly man of about 75 years.

When we went in , the elderly man( he is no more now), he was deeply engrossed in conversation with a man whom I came know later to be the Chief of the Village.

He was sitting on the floor while the elderly gentleman was reclining in an Easy chair.

When Lunch neared he asked all of us, including the Viilage Chief, to eat.

The man politely refused and stayed on while we ate.

He left after talking with the  elderly man.

When we left for the temple,we saw him near the end of the street.

I wished him and casually asked him as to why he did not eat along with us and whether it has any thing to do with us being Brahmins and being not one.

He replied that is out of respect for the elderly man’s Family and he felt that eating along with them, despite their invitations, would be a form or disrespect.

I asked him whether he was saying this as I was a guest of the house , he said that he was not bothered about my status and would do what he felt!

This is the amity among the Brahmins and the other communities including Dalits.

Yet people vilify Brahmins of practicing Untouchability.

Despite my vigorous checking, I am yet to find a Brahmin being accused of practicing  Untouchability and charged under the Law!

Other Communities have been named.

“Tamil Nadu figures among the top five States where a high number of cases of atrocities against Dalits have been reported in recent years, according to National Commission for Scheduled Castes (NCSC) Chairman P L Punia.

Statistics show that since 2011, as many as 213 people belonging to Scheduled Castes have been murdered in Tamil Nadu. This year, 16 Dalits have been killed in the State so far. Punia alleged that in many cases of atrocities, the police registered FIRs only after protests or directions from courts.

“In Tamil Nadu, the highest number of sexual assaults against Dalits was recorded in 2011 when 41 rape cases were registered. It came down to 22 in the next year and 23 in 2013. In 2014, the number of rape cases was 18 and in 2015 till now, 14 sexual assault cases against Dalit women had been recorded,” Punia said.

In the last five years, 6,074 cases were filed under Prevention of Atrocities against SC/ST Act. In 2011, it was as high as 1,170, while it was 1,372 in the year 2012 and 1,497 in 2013. In 2014, the number of cases registered under the Act was 1,464 and so far this year, 571 cases had been registered under the Act.

A State level vigilance committee and district level vigilance committees had been set up to review the atrocities against Dalits twice in every year. But the panels have not met after June 2013, Punia alleged.

“Nearly 60 to 70 per cent cases were closed without action and the conviction rate in Tamil Nadu is lower than the national average of 30 per cent,” he added.

On the Dalit engineering graduate Gokulraj’s murder case in Namakkal, Punia said the State DGP had told him that all the accused except one had been arrested and assured that he will be nabbed quickly. The Commission could not interfere in the investigation and it could do so only if it found the enquiry to be unsatisfactory

Source.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Atrocities-Against-Dalits-High-in-Tamil-Nadu-Claims-NCSC/2015/07/10/article2912101.ece

 

Even as Haryana reels from the gruesome murders of two dalit children who were burned alive on Tuesday, allegedly by upper caste men, new statistics show that crimes against dalits, or Scheduled Castes (SCs), rose 19 percent last year, on top of a 17 per cent increase in 2013.
In addition, as many as 744 dalits were murdered last year, up from 676 in 2013. In Haryana alone, 21 dalits were murdered in 2014.( http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Crimes-against-Dalits-rose-19-in-2014-murders-rose-to-744/articleshow/49488994.cms)

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Not even a Single case against a Brahmin.

Then why Brahmins are being accused of practicing Untouchability?

Then the stock answer, is that Brahmins consider as Theettu, and wash themselves or the place where they( Sc/ST) sat.

This is a matter of.personal  habit, though some smritis suggest this and they are not being followed by every one.

Even here he does not ask to to wash yourself.

Nor does he ask you to go away.

Whom one should have interaction with is one’s personal choice.

Smritis do not have the authority  over the Vedas and the Vedas speak of Equality.

How many people can honestly say hat this is being practiced to day?

As I said it is a matter of personal choice.

If some one does not like you, do not go to him.

You can not force some one to love or respect you.

Even by Law.

This may sound harsh, but some one has to say it, as the misinformation is such to warrant a retort.

And who resorts to Honor Killing?

Brahmins?

Brahmins created Vedas to control other communities.

Vedas were not created, let alone by Brahmins.

The greatest mantra of the Hindus is the Gayatri Mantra was given by Sage Viswamitra, a Kshatriya.

The Gods whom we worship and are popular(?) are Krishna and Rama.

Rama was Kshatriya and Krishna a Cowherd!

In what way have Brahmins controlled the others?

Brahmins have been advisors to Kings, even to day they are, but they were requested by the Kings to be so.

If Brahmins were the people who devised the Vedas with the intention of controlling others, would a King, in his normal senses would have a Brahmin as an Advisor?

Another is Manu smriti.

This was a code of ethics mainly meant for Kings and written by a Kshatriya.

Manu was a Kshatriya.

Having been advisors to Kings right from Rama’s Days, what did the Brahmin Gurus get in return?

A Kingdom?

A dakshina, however small it might be, was accepted by a Brahmin.

If Brahmins are dangerous why do people seek their advice from them even today be it Karunanidhi and the other Brahmin Baiting gang?

One needs a Brahmin Doctor, Brahmin Lawyer, Auditor but public you will denigrate Brahmins?

Post on Brahmins’ condition in India follows.

 

http://socialjustice.nic.in/annualreports.php

 

 

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Manu Meditated Malayamarutha Near Madagascar?


I have, through my articles, been able to reconstruct, albeit in a limited way,Indian ancient History which has been obliterated.

Many misconceived notions have been cleared, like the Aryan Invasion theory, Tamil is antagonistic to Sanatana Dharam, Sanatana Dharma is about 5000 years  old,Ramayana and Mahabharata were just stories and legends,Indians were barbarians with no scientific temper,India was insulated from the world,Ancient civilizations rose in Egypt,Babylon…….

This I have been able to unearth with the help of information available in web from sources whose ancestors, have spread misinformation.

Namely, Astrodating, Etymology, Geology, Carbon dating of events,,cultural similarities, infrared dating of Fossils.

I had recently written an article on Lord Rama’s war with the Atlantis people .

While researching for the material to support my view, I had come across information about the Malaya Mountain, Malayamarutha.

Malayamarutha is often mentioned in the Ramayana and repeatedly in Tamil Literature.

Tamil is so obsessive with Malaya Mountain, even the Gentle breeze is named after it, Malaya Marutham.

This wind is recorded to have emanated from the south.

This breeze is soft, gentle and invigorating.

There is a Raaga, Muscial Note, by the name Malayamarutha.

It is one of the Janyaragas in Carnatic Music, which is highly mathematical.

Janya Ragas are Carnatic music ragas derived from the fundamental set of 72 ragas called Melakarta ragas, by the permutation and combination of the various ascending and descending notes. The process of deriving janya ragas from the parent melakartas is complex and leads to an open mathematical possibility of around thirty thousand ragas. Although limited by the necessity of the existence of individual swaroopas (unique identities) for the janya ragas, a list is never comprehensive or exhaustive.’

Why this obsession with a Mountain?

I recalled an article I had written on Satyavrata Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama, having lived in the South and migrated to Ayodhya, because of a Great Flood and whose son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty.

And this Satyavrata Manu is associated with the Great Flood and he is reported to have meditated in a Mountain.

‘The Sanskrit-language Bhagavata Purana (dated 500 BCE-1000 CE) describes its protagonist Manu (aka Satyavrata) as the Lord of Dravida (South India). TheMatsya Purana (dated 250–500 CE) also begins with Manu practicing tapas on Mount Malaya of South India. Manimeghalai (dated around 6th century CE) mentions that the ancient Chola port city of Kavirippumpattinam (present-day Puhar) was destroyed by a flood. It states that this flood was sent by the Hindu deity Indra, because the king forgot to celebrate a festival dedicated to him’

 

Shraddhadeva was the king of the Dravida Kingdom during the epoch of the Matsya Purana. According to the Matsya Purana, Matsya, the avatar of Vishnu, first appeared as a shaphari (a small carp) to Shraddhadeva while he washed his hands in a river flowing down theMalaya Mountains.

The little fish asked the king to save him, and out of compassion, he put it in a water jar. It kept growing bigger and bigger, until the king first put it in a bigger pitcher, and then deposited it in a well. When the well also proved insufficient for the ever-growing fish, the King placed it in a tank (reservoir), that was two yojanas (16 miles) in height above the surface and on land, as much in length, and a yojana (8 miles) in breadth.[5][6] As it grew further, the king had to put the fish in a river, and when even the river proved insufficient, he placed it in the ocean, after which it nearly filled the vast expanse of the great ocean.

It was then that Vishnu, revealing himself, informed the king of an all-destructive deluge which would be coming very soon.The king built a huge boat which housed his family, saptarishi, nine types of seeds, and animals to repopulate the earth, after the deluge would end and the oceans and seas would recede. At the time of deluge, Vishnu appeared as a horned fish and Shesha appeared as a rope, with which the king fastened the boat to horn of the fish.

The boat was perched after the deluge on the top of the Malaya Mountains. After the deluge, Manu’s family and the seven sages repopulated the earth.’

Lemuria Location.jpg Tamil Land.The arrow points at Kumari Mountain and the red dot Kapadapuram(Kavata).Image Credit jaysreesaranathan blog, Tamizhanthiravidana blog spot.

Atlantis Lemuria Location Map.jpg Atlantis and Lemuria Location.Image credit. alternative research.

According to historians, Kuadam was very close to Tiruchendur. Abraham Pandithar says that Greeks in those days named it as Periplus port’ ( Wiki)

The Tami land extended from Kapadapuram to Then Madurai.( South Madurai, which is differnet from the Madurai now in Tamil Nadu , where Meenakshi Amman Temple is.

The distance is about 7460Kms and the western side the land stretched to Africa!( 700 Katham)

In this area there were 49 Tamil Kingdoms, called Ezheezh Nadukal( 7*7 countries)…

Note the Kumari Mountain , indicated by an arrow in the First Image, and it starts from what is the presently known as the Western Ghats and extends to Madagascar, where the Mascarene plateau lay in ancient times.

Since Satyavrata Manu was meditating on t a higher plane because of the great flood, the Mascarene plateau   fits.

As He is reported to have meditated in Malayamarutha, I am of the opinion that the Malayamarutha lay somewhere in  Mascarene plateau..

The Mascarene Plateau is a submarine plateau in the Indian Ocean, north and east of Madagascar. The plateau extends approximately 2,000 km (1,200 mi), from the Seychelles in the north to Réunion in the south. The plateau covers an area of over 115,000 km2 (44,000 sq mi) of shallow water, with depths ranging from 8–150 m (30–490 ft), plunging to 4,000 m (13,000 ft) to the abyssal plain at its edges. It is the largest undersea plateau in the Indian Ocean…

Mascarene Plateau with Mountains.jpg Mascare Plateau marked by a Circle and two other ellipical circles are Kumari Malai(Mountain and 90Degree Mountain).Image credit.Jayasreesaranathans Blog

The northern part of the Mascarene plateau includes the Seychelles and Agaléga Islands. The southern part of the Mascarene plateau includes the Mascarene Islands, Saya de Malha Bank, Nazareth Bank, Soudan Banks, and Hawkins Bank. The Mascarene Islands are the mountainous islands of Mauritius, Réunion, Rodrigues, and the Cargados Carajos Shoals..

The Indian subcontinent was at one time next to the east coast of the Seychelles, but seafloor spreading has moved the landmass to its current position, where it has collided and fused with the continent of Asia.

The northern part of the Mascarene plateau is formed of granite, and is a fragment of the ancient supercontinent of Gondwana. The granite is topped with deposits of limestoneand basalt. The basalt deposits in the Seychelles are from the Deccan Traps eruption, which occurred in the central part of the Indian subcontinent 66 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period.

And this lies close to what was Thenmadurai.

Location of Thenmadurai.bmp Location of Thenmadurai.Image credit,Jayasreesaranathans blog

As the Malayamarutahm is recorded to have come from the south of Thenmadurai(South Madurai which is different from the Madurai in Tamil Nadu now), Satyavrata Manu , this could have been the Mountain range where Satyavrata Manu meditated .

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascarene_Plateau

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuria_(continent)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_Kandam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shraddhadeva_Manu

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/malaya-mountains/

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/rama-atlantis-war-kavatam-periplus-port-window-of-lemuria/

 

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Hinduism

Bhrigu From Greece Greek Priests in Rig Veda?


When people talk of the spread of Sanatana Dharma one is struck by the fact that the Sanatana Dharma was present throughout the world.

Please read my posts on each Country, Civilization  and its Link to Hinduism Sanatna Dharma.Sanskrit/Tamil.

Shiva and Dionysus.jpg. Shiva and Dionysus.

And when one reads the origins of the European and other counties in all the continents we have now, we find that people seem to have just come there from Asia, which incidentally coincides with the great Flood reported in India then called Bharatavarsha and mingled with the people already present there..

In that case where had these  people who had been residing there, from?

After all one should have either been in one place or have come from somewhere.

( In this sense, all of us are immigrants from somewhere!)

This is anomaly I have faced when I research into Human migration and read it along with the Sanatana Dharma.

The only plausible is explanation is that the land mass was different in ancient times and there was one huge landmass which was peopled by one group.

Please read my Post on Shiva Uma Marriage.

This group, based on the available evidence is the people from India then called Bharatavarsha.

The entire landmass was following Sanatana Dharma and there were frequent interactions and occasional  migration from one part of the landmass from another.

This is the only explanation for the presence of all notable figures of the other Cultures(other than Sanatana Dharma) being found in Hindu texts, ranging from The Vedas, Puranas, Ithihasas and Tamil.

In one form or the other, names from the history of India are found in these cultures and references and names from those cultures in India.

Not merely names, archeological sites, language. Customs and culture buttress this view.

Kindly read my posts on these.

One more connection of Sanatana  to Greece has been found in the relationship of Dionysus and Shiva.

Dionysus may be Shiva Himself because He migrated to the West during the great flood while Vaivaswataha Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama moved to Ayodhya.

Dionysus is found in the Atharva Veda.

Bhrigu and others are also found in Greece.

by the pre-historic times the devotees Dionysus’s  used to travel to India since it was a pilgrimage for them. The  priesthood genes got developed into various tribes. So there are the Bhrigu (Bhryges), the Avanti (Avantes), the Kurus (Kuris), the Panchas(Panchaioi) theKoshas (Koes), the Sindhu (Sindu). They originate from different parts of Greece’

The Kurus and the Panchas originate from Crete and might be the oldest ones. The Avanti from Evoia. A part of them joined with A part of Kuris and created the priesthood Korivantes, who ruled Asia Minor. Bhriges, Koshas and Sindu were from Thrace, an area that covered this time all North Greece. A part of Bhriges moved to Anatolia and a part of Sindu to south cost of black sea. Bhrigu in ancient Greek means “to burn” and it is referred to the sacrificial ritual. Sindu in Thracian dialect means river. So is it possible the oldest name of Indus river deriving from them? Even nowadays in North Greece there is the municipality of Sindos. Most of the western researchers either don’t understand or they don’t want to accept the common roots of those cultures. But as I heard in Harvard they teach that the Sanskrit Soma has common etymological root with Greek saima that means originally the holly blood of the sacrificed God. Saimon was a holy mountain of Dionysus in Thrace, meaning blood..

Vassiliki States that  the Greek priests moved to Indus valley in prehistoric times (Before Rig Veda). Their names are found in Vedic texts and in ancient Greek Mythology

There is another possibility. In Rig Veda 7,18,16, it is written that half of humanity ignores Indra, that means that half of humanity the time of Rig Veda was worshiping Indra. Indra means the “Archetypal man“, existing in Ancient Greek as Andra or Andreus with the same meaning. It was epithet of Dionysus and ofDias. Andrineia was a Dionysus’s festival. Some ancient Greek text (been in Batican) says that there were eight Dionysi in ancient times. One of them was the God (non incarnated) and the others were sages. In between them there was an Indian one, who was supposed to be the oldest. In this case, we can make the hypothesis that this cult was given as a revelation to many parts of the earth, carrying a common theological language. But even if the Indian Dionysus originates from Greece, obviously he selected Indus valley as his pilgrimage because it had already a spiritual background.

Soma means blood and it was the red sweet wine, they were drinking in his sacraments. A traditional kind of wine in Eastern islands of Greece is called Souma and derives from the ancient sacraments. In prehistoric Greek blood is called saima. In ancient Sanskrit Soma is existing also as sauma and souma. It symbolizes the blood of the sacrificed Dionysus or Purusha (Grk: Proseios= rising sun).

My observation is that the was no Greece as we know it to-day but it was ( as all the other countries)a part of Sanatana Dharma.

https://sites.google.com/site/greekinfluenceonindia/rig-veda-and-it-s-origin

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