British Descendants Of Bharata ‘Phoenicians Barat’

The races of the world seem to have originated in ancient India.

When one checks European History one would find that the first migration there was from Asia and no further investigation was done as who these people are in Asia.

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Family Tree of Bharata.
Click to enlarge the Image.

This calls for early geological evidence and references to indian literature,both Religious Texts and Classics in Sanskrit an Tamil.

I am including Tamil here because the reference are found on this subject and I am looking into other languages of India to buttress my claims.

Scholars in Indian Languages may contribute.

I have written about Goddess Lakshmi Being the Goddess of the Canaanites and Phoenicians and that Krishna’s son Pradhyumna founded a city.

The Phoenicians are reported to be the descendants of the Yadavas, the clan to which Lord Krishna belonged to.


,The Mahabharata, states, “The able Panch (पञ्च) setting out to invade the Earth, brought the whole world under their sway”. – Book 1, ch.94, shloka 3738

The able ‘Panch’ have been interpreted by some western philologist, foremost among them British researcher Laurence Waddell (1854-1938), as the ancestors of the people who later came to be known as ‘Britons’, Anyone who has read the Mahabharata knows that the ‘Panch’ are the ‘five’ Pandava’ brothers.

The word ‘Panch’ appears in the names of many Mahabharata tribes – one such tribe was the ‘Panchal’ (पञ्चाल) – the tribe to which Draupadi belonged. The first five tribes of the Vedic-Kshatriyas were known as Pancha-janya (पाञ्चजन्य) or ‘Five People’. In Vedic literature the ‘Pancha-janya’ are described as the ‘five major races’ of the Mahabharata. The Maha-Bharata is the chronicle of the Bharata dynasty. Bharat was a legendary emperor of India, the son of Dushyanta and Shakuntala, and his empire is known to have extended way beyond even what is referred to as greater India. 

Laurence Waddell traces the origins of the Britons to the descendants of King Bharata, via the Phoenicians. Waddell quotes the following verse from the Mahabharata – “And King Bharat gave his name to the Dynastic Race of which he was the founder; and so it is from him that the fame of that Dynastic People hath spread so wide.“..
Waddell says that the descendants of King Bharata included the branch that later came to be known as Phoenicians. The ‘later Phoenicians’ also gave themselves the title ‘Barat’ which they spelled as ‘Parat’, ‘Prat’ or ‘Prydi’.’
References and Citation.

What Is Wrong With Indian History? This

If you want to subjugate a people, you have to destroy their language, make them lose their respect for their culture.

This is not mine,

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Indian Influence in Souh East Asia.
Greater India: The expansion of Indian culture and influence both in Central Asia and the South East towards the countries and islands of the Pacific is one of the momentous factors of world history.
(image source: A Survey of Indian History – By Sardar Kavalam Madhava Panikkar).

A gist of what Macaulay spoke in the British Parliament about the introduction of English as a medium of instruction in India.

We have people like Max Mueller who were planted by the Church to destroy the Sanatana Dharma from within.

Read my posts on these subjects.

Indian History, as I was taught some 45 years ago was thus.

There was Vedas ,ancient texts, they were concerned with Religion, many gods were worshiped,

There were Mythologies of Ramayana and Mahabharata, Rama and Krishna  who were worshiped as Gods.

The Vedas and Puranas were oppressive.

Then Buddha came along.

Aryans invaded through the Khyber Pass.

Alexander Invasion of India, he defeated Indian Kings and signed a treaty with Porus, forgiving him.

Appointed Seleucus.

Then there was Chandra Gupta Maurya and His dynasty.

It goes on up to Harshavardhana.

There is a gap of about 200 to 300 years.

Then Kanishka.

Later Mughals and the British.

What is wrong with this?

1.Vedas have been brushed as Religious texts, with no details about the high scientific and technical skills they possessed.

2.No mention of the Vedic empires.

3.There is a gap of about 300 years between Panini and Daruis.

4.No mention of the Tamil and Southern Kingdoms which existed around the early Vedic age.

5.Ramayana and Mahabharata were facts and not Fables, while Bible ,Christianity, Islam and the prophet were given the status of History.

6.No mention of Sanskrit and Tamil, the two earliest languages of civilization.

7.While there is mention of Alberoni, Fahien, Huansuang, there is no mention of courtiers sent from India abroad.

8.Again there is a gap of about 200 years from Fahien in 400 AD to 600 AD when Harshavardhana came to power.

9.From 800 AD to 1500 AD no mention of Indian History in detail regarding the South Indian Kings and their empires.

10.No mention of Indian empire having been extended to South Asia during the entire History of India excepting bland statements that Indians had commercial contacts with Rome, and Some Tamil Kings conquered some portions of Indonesia,.

11.No mention of the great Floods in Souh India which triggered off migration to Europe ans rest of the world from India.

And that was how the early settlements in these areas began

12.Ashoka is reported to be first King to have established contacts with Sri Lanka by sending his daughter/son, omitting the Tamil connection which was earlier by about 1000 years.

I am providing information which is slightly better than what we were taught from the link I have provided below.

The gaps in the improved version is also glaring.

Less said about the western scholarship(?) the better.

I shall be writing on the hidden History of India with evidence for these periods.

Two technics were adopted in burying our culture.

One is suppression of Facts and evidence, as in archeological finds and Tamil History.

Second is wilful misinterpretation of facts as Max Mueller did.

Readers may contribute with evidence.

Rock Shelters of Bhimbetka (9000 BC to 7000 BC)*
The earliest records of the Indian history exist in the form of the Rock Shelters of Bhimbetka. These shelters are situated on the southern edge of the central Indian plateau, in the foothills of the Vindhyan Mountains. There are five groups of rock shelters, each of them adorned with paintings that are believed to date from the Mesolithic Period right through to the historical period.Mehrgarh Culture (7000 BC to 3300 BC)*
Mehrgarh is one of the most significant sites belonging to the Neolithic Age. At the same time, it is one of the oldest sites that indicate the introduction of the concept of farming and herding. Situated on theKachi plain of Baluchistan (Pakistan), it lies to the west of the Indus River valley. The site ofMehrgarh, spread over an area of 495-acre, was discovered in the year 1974.Indus Valley Civilization (3300 BC to 1700 BC)*
The Indus Valley Civilization was discovered in the 1920s. The major events in the timeline of the Indus Valley are given below:Early Harappan Phase (3300 BC to 2600 BC)*
The early Harappan Phase lasted for approximately 700 years, starting with the Ravi Phase. It is one of the three earliest urban civilizations and made use of an early form of the Indus script, known as Harappan script, for writing purposes. Around 2800 BC, the Kot Diji phase of the Indus Valley Civilization started.

Mature Harappan Phase (2600 BC to 1700 BC)*
The Mature Harappan Phase started around 2600 BC. Large cities and urban areas started emerging and the civilization expanded to over 2,500 cities and settlements. Urban planning, excellent sewage and drainage system, system of uniform weights and measures, knowledge of proto-dentistry, etc are some of the other elements that characterize the mature phase.

Late Harappan Phase (1700 BC to 1300 BC)*
The Late Harappan Phase began around 1700 BC and came to an end around 1300 BC. However, one can find many elements of the Indus Valley Civilization in later cultures.

Vedic Period/Age (1700 BC to 500 BC)*
The Vedic Period or the Vedic Age refers to the time of the compilation of the sacred Vedic Sanskrit texts in India. Situated on the Indo-Gangetic Plain, the Vedic Civilization formed the basis of Hinduism and the sIndian culture. The Vedic Period can be divided into the following two phases:

Early Vedic/Rig Vedic Period (1700 BC to 1000 BC)*
Early Vedic Period represents the time period when the Rig Veda was compiled. During this period, the king was believed to be the protector of the people, who took an active part in the government. The caste system started becoming rigid and the families started becoming patriarchal. The major events of this time are:

  • 1700 BC – Late Harappan and Early Vedic period coincide
  • 1300 BC – The end of Cemetery H culture
  • 1000 BC – Iron Age of India
Later Vedic Age (1000 BC to 500 BC)*
The emergence of the later Vedic period was marked with agriculture becoming the dominant economic activity and a decline in the significance of cattle rearing. The political organization changed completely, with the reduction in the involvement of people in the administration. The major events are:600 BC – The formation of Sixteen Maha Janapadas (Great Kingdoms)
599 BC – The birth of Mahavira, founder of Jainism
563 BC – The birth of Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha), founder of Buddhism
538 BC – Cyrus the Great conquered parts of Pakistan
500 BC – Earliest written records in Brahmi
500 BC – Panini standardized grammar and morphology of Sanskrit, converting it
into Classical Sanskrit. With this, the Vedic Civilization came to an end.Ancient India (500 BCE – 550 AD)Rise of Jainism and Buddhism
Jainism or Jain Dharma is the religious philosophy that originated in the Ancient India. The religion is based on the teachings of the Tirthankaras. The 24th Tirthankara, Lord Mahavira, is credited with propagating the religion in the various parts of the world. Buddhism is based on the teachings of Lord Buddha, who was born as Prince Siddhartha Gautama. After attaining Enlightenment, Lord Buddha set on a task of teaching others how to achieve nirvana. His teachings were later propagated throughout the world by Emperor Asoka. The other major events of the Ancient Indian period are:

333 BC – Darius III was defeated by Alexander the Great. The Macedonian Empire was established
326 BC – Ambhi, King of Taxila surrendered to Alexander, Battle of the Hydaspes River
321 BC – Chandra Gupta Maurya established the Maurya Empire
273 BC – Emperor Ashoka took over the Maurya Empire
266 BC – Ashoka conquered most of South Asia, Afghanistan and Iran
265 BC – The battle of Kalinga, after which Emperor Ashoka embraced Buddhism
232 BC: Ashoka died and was succeeded by Dasaratha
230 BC – Satavahana Empire was established
200 to 100 BC – Tholkappiyam standardized grammar and morphology of Tamil
184 BC – Collapse of Maurya Empire with the assassination of Emperor Brihadrata, Establishment of the Sunga dynasty
180 BC – Establishment of the Indo-Greek kingdom
80 BC – Establishment of the Indo-Scythian kingdom
10 BC – Establishment of the Indo-Parthian kingdom
68 AD – Establishment of the Kushan Empire by Kujula Kadphises
78 AD – Gautamiputra Satkarni took over Satavahana Empire and defeated Scythian king Vikramaditya
240 AD – Establishment of the Gupta Empire by Sri-Gupta
320 AD – Chandragupta I took over the Gupta Empire
335 AD – Samudragupta took over the Gupta Empire and started expanding it
350 AD – Establishment of the Pallava Empire
380 AD – Chandragupta II took over the Gupta Empire
399 to 414 AD – Chinese scholar Fa-Hien traveled to India

Medieval Period (550 AD to 1526 AD)
The medieval period can be divided into the following two phases:

Early Medieval Period (Upto 1300 AD)
606 AD – Harshavardhana became the King
630 AD – Hiuen Tsiang traveled to India
761 AD – First Muslim invasion by Mohammed Bin Qasim
800 AD – The birth of Shankaracharya
814 AD – Nripatunga Amoghavarsha I became Rashtrakuta king
1000 AD – Invasion by Mahmud of Ghazni
1017AD – Alberuni traveled to India
1100s AD – Rule of the Chandelas, Cholas, Kadambas, and Rashrakutas
1120 AD – Kalyani Chalukya Empire attained peak, Vikramaditya VI introduced Vikrama Chalukya Era
1191 AD – First battle of Tarain between Mohammed Ghori & Prithivi Raj Chauhan III
1192 AD – Second battle of Tarain between Ghauri and Prithivi Raj Chauhan III
1194 AD – Battle of Chandawar between Ghauri and Jayachandra
1288 AD – Marco Polo came to India

Late Medieval Period (1300 AD to 1500 AD)
1300 AD – Establishment of the Khilji Dynasty
1336 to 1565 AD – Vijayanagar Empire
1498 AD – First voyage of Vasco-da-Gama to Goa

Post-Medieval Era (1526 AD to 1818 AD)
The major events in the post medieval era are:

1526 AD – Babur, the Mughal ruler of Kabul, invaded Delhi and Agra and killed Sultan Ibrahim Lodi
1527 AD – Battle of Khanwa, in which Babur annexed Mewar
1530 AD – Babur died and was succeeded Humayun
1556 AD – Humayun died and was succeeded by his son Akbar
1600 AD – East India company was formed in England
1605 AD – Akbar died and was succeeded by Jehangir
1628 AD – Jehangir died and was succeeded by Shah Jahan
1630 AD – Shivaji was born
1658 AD – Shah Jahan built Taj Mahal, Jamia Masjid and Red Fort.
1659 AD – Shivaji defeated Adilshahi troops at the Battle of Pratapgarh
1674 AD – Maratha Empire was established
1680 AD – Shivaji died
1707 AD – Aurangzeb died and was succeeded by Bahadur Shah I
1707 AD – Maratha Empire broke into two divisions
1734 AD – Pamheiba invaded Tripura
1737 AD – Bajirao I conquered Delhi
1740 AD – Bajirao I died and was succeeded by Balaji Bajirao
1757 AD – Battle of Plassey was fought
1761 AD – Third battle of Panipat ended the expansion of Maratha Empire
1766 AD – First Anglo-Mysore War
1777 AD – First Anglo-Maratha War
1779 AD – Battle of Wadgaon
1780 AD – Second Anglo-Mysore War
1789 AD – Third Anglo-Mysore War
1798 AD – Fourth Anglo-Mysore War
1799 AD – Tipu Sultan died, Wodeyar dynasty was restored
1803 AD – Second Anglo-Maratha War
1817 AD – Third Anglo-Maratha War begins
1818 AD – End of the Maratha Empire and British control over most of India

Colonial Era (1818 AD to 1947 AD)
The Colonial Era started with the British taking control over almost all the parts of India and ended with the freedom of India in 1947. The major events that took place during the Colonial Era are:..”

*I have writtten articles on these.
Refernce and citation.

Why No Foreign Culture History Religion Remains in India

The remains of Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism,Culture,Architecture,Languages,practices are found through out the world.

The references found in the Pali,Sanskrit texts have been found to be true,Vedas, Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharata,Raghuvamsa,Silappadikaram,Manimekalai,Puranaanuru,Pathiruppathu,and many Tamil Sangam Works.

https://ramanan50.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/7feea-1395221_652195111491738_2119399268_n.jpg?w=696 Bharata varsha,The Hindu Empire.

Be it.

The Narada Mountain of Nardonya,Archaim of Russia,

Maya, Aztec remains in Mexico,Central America,

Natural Vishnu Temple in Grand Canyon,

Nazca Lines of Peru,

Agastya in New Zealand,

Shiva’s Third Eye dance in Australia,

The places mentioned in the Ramayana, Ravana Palace, Sita’s prison,Pushpaka Vimana runway,in Sri Lanka.

Reference to Dhanu in Danube delta,

The legend of Hindus among the Celts,

Nataraja as the Protector of Buddhism in China,…..

List is endless.

Please read my posts with authentic Links filed under Hinduism.

The sources are from reputed archeologists,astronomers, linguists, anthropologists.

And the artifacts have been validated by , in many cases , by Carbon dating.

Now if Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma is a Myth and foreign history is correct,and that those civilizations, including the Sumerian, Minoan, Aztecs, Mayas, Incas,were advanced civilizations, then their cultural, historical, and religious remains should have been found in India, just as Hinduism remains are found throughout the world.

But none whatsoever!

Whatever has been found,relates to events that happened later tha what our Texts say.

And the reference back to this information comes back to India !

When Megastanes writes about India, the reference found in his works are found to refer to Greek connection with India before Megasthanes.

Read my posts on Megasthanes.

But we have the gift of ridiculing our Texts and trust the western sources.

We will question Ramayana/Mahabharata though its date is proven,but will believe The Iliad and Odyssey of Homer !( though Homer, Iliad and Odyssey are proven, the facts contained are not)

But Rama is found in Sumerian Kings List and Krishna is found in Greece!

We will belive the Bible where it is not proven , Jesus whose existence is not proved  as scientifically as Rama and Krishna.

We do not even know Jesus’s name!

Such is the hold of colonial mindset we accept our own culture having been invaded by our own people(Aryan Invasion)

The answer to the Post title is,

Bharat History is ancient, proven, others follwed suit and they had no lasting  influence on Sanatana Dharma as it had on them save the latest British type institutions,, Education and worse the slave mindset.


Blogging, Hinduism

Ramani’s Blog Sources Sankara and Sanitary Napkin Reply

This blog receives notice among the netizens and is often quoted in Texts, both in English and Tamil as well.

This is also rated as the 15th authentic site on Hinduism by a site and 30th in the world by another.

It is my duty to disclose my sources to lend more authenticity  and credibility ,though I provide relevant sources and links in the Posts.

There is another reason.

Ramana Maharishi On Consciousnes.quote,jpg. Ramana Maharishi On Consciousnes..

The colonial mindset implanted in us is so great that people even when they look at facts of Indian Origin and Indian Texts, refuse to look into them.

Brush aside as non sense.

Worse still is that some make funny remarks.

One of the readers in a Facebook community commented  for the Post Shankaracharya Intellectual Giant,where I listed the  His works as follows,

‘So, He could have invented sanitary Napkins!’

I did not respond to this comment.

The point is that we have to let it be known our treasures with authority, which was eroded by the British as they have done for the whole world, including their own Irish.

I will take personal insults.

But I can not take any disrespect to Adi Shankaracharya.

The information I am sharing here in the blog is not my invention nor I am a Gnani or a self-styled Guru.

I am more like a curious child who is awestruk.

I refer sources, cross check them and publish.

If contrary evidence comes along I publish it too.

The sources of my Posts( Relevant Link is provided in each Post)

1.Rig , Shukla, Krishna Yajur , Sama and Atharva Vedas.( Includes all the parts of the Vedas)

2.Satapada Brahmana.

3.Puranas, specifically,the Vishnu Purana and Bhagavatham.

4.Ramayana of Valmiki, Tulsidas, Kamban, Adyatma ramayana, Jain Ramayana.

5,Mahabharata By Vyasa..

6.Commentaies of Adi Shankaracharya, Sri Ramanuja, Vallabhacharya,

7.Buddha Deepika.

8.Lalita Sahasranama.

9.Vishnu Sahasranama.

10.Surya Siddhantha,


12.Agastya Samhita.

13.Raja Tharngini .

14.Harsha Charitha.

15.Magha’s Sisupala vadha.

16.Raghuvamsa of Kalidasa.


18.Yuan susuang.

19.Akbar nama by Firdausi.








25.Siddhar paadalgal.


27.u.Ve. Swaminatha Iyer.

28,Vaiyapuri  Pillai.

29.PT. Srinivasa Ayyanagar.

30.Works of Swami Vivekananda,.

31.Theory of Relativity by Einstein.

32.Plato’s Republic.

33.Rene Descartes.





38.Edward Gibbon, the Rise of fall of Rome.


40.Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, Practical Reason.

41.Histroy of Time by Stephen Hawking.

42.Nicholas Tesla.

43.Lobsabg Rampa.

44.Bertrand Russel.

45.Bishp Berkeley.

46.David Hume.


48.Neils Bohr.

49.Edward Schordinger.



52.Sir John Woodroffe.

53.Maurice Maeterlinck,

54.Huston Smith

55.Pierre-Simon Laplace

56.Tarikh al-Yaqubi, The Foundations of the Composite Culture in India,

57.Carl Sagan.

58.Romain Rolland, The life of Vivekananda and the universal gospel

59.Zend Avestha

60.Indian Acheology .( Government of India)


62.Thirukoilur Plates.

63.Rajaraja Plates.


65.Dwaraka Remains.

66.Rajeda Chola Plates.

67.Tectonic plate movements.

68.Stephen Knapp.

69.Grahama Hancock.

In addition Astronomy, Etymology are some of the tools I have used.Links have been provided in the Posts.

62.Archeology online,

63.Jayasree Saranathans Blog.


I can recall only this much off the hat.

Shall update frequently.


Genetic Study Proves Dravidan Movement To North,The World

The study of genes is very interesting.

I have written a few articles on this subject.

Human Migration.Image.

Human Migration.

There have been attempts to manipulate data by assigning Caste to genes.

While we are advanced in Genetics, we are not advanced enough to assign a caste marker to Gene.

The information, rather the misinformation is provided by the Government of India.

They have taken distance as the factor to determine Caste!

That is if you are away from India, you do not have caste!

Apart from the fact we do not have the technology to assign caste to genes, people forget the Geology of 5000 ago.

India was not as it is.

The landmass encompassed a wider area.

Who set the boundaries for those areas?

Same logic applies to determine languages based on Genes.

Proof for this has o be found elsewhere, in archaeology, linguistics and cultural behavior.

Again, my researches indicate the presence of Indians as far away in Ireland, Russia and in some places Brahmin practices were found , according to Archaeological  finds and cultural practices.

Now to the study.

‘R1a is typical in populations of Eastern Europe,Indian Subcontinent and parts of Central Asia. It has a significant presence in Northern Europe,Central Europe, Iran, Altaians and Xinjiang(China) as well as in Siberia. R1a can be found in low frequencies in the Middle East, mostly inIndo-European speakers or their descendants…

The Modern studies for R1a1 (M17) suggest that it could have originated in South Asia. It could have found its way initially from Western India (Gujarat) through Pakistan and Kashmir, then viaCentral Asia and Russia, before finally coming to Europe”…”as part of an archaeologically dated Paleolithic movement from east to west 30,000 years ago

Points and inferences from this study.

1.That Human genes originated in south Asia.

This is supported by archaeology,astronomy ,linguistics and culture.

2.’It could have found its way initially from Western India (Gujarat) through Pakistan and Kashmir, then viaCentral Asia and Russia, before finally coming to Europe”…”as part of an archaeologically dated Paleolithic movement from east to west 30,000 years ago’

Here the point is that the early Genes were linked to South India, to be specific near Madurai, Tamil Nadu.

The implication is that there has been a movement from the south necessitated by a Tsunami, which has been recorded in History and validated.

This has been found in Tamil Classics and world legends of Floods.

Note the time frame in another study.

‘The dates we report have significant implications for Indian history in the sense that they document a period of demographic and cultural change in which mixture between highly differentiated populations became pervasive before it eventually became uncommon. The period of around 1,900–4,200 years BP was a time of profound change in India, characterized by the deurbanization of the Indus civilization, increasing population density in the central and downstream portions of the Gangetic system, shifts in burial practices, and the likely first appearance of Indo-European languages and Vedic religion in the subcontinent. The shift from widespread mixture to strict endogamy that we document is mirrored in ancient Indian texts. [notes removed -Razib]’

Taking these facts into account, it is sane to theorize that the earliest genes were from the south of India and there was a shift to the north around 4000/5000 BC.

This is the time when the Tsunami struck in the south and people emigrated from the south.

Towards which direction is the question.

They could have moved towards the north of India, east and west.

Hindu Texts state that Satyavrata Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama moved towards north with his sons to found the Iksvaku Dynasty.

Please read my Post .

They could not have moved to wards the south as they were deep down the south as the land mass ended here as described in the Tamil Classics of the First Sangam and in Sanskrit texts.

Another direction they could have moved towards  is the west

This is worth considering because of these facts.

a)There has been worship of Shiva and Murugan in deep south then but not much is known about Vishnu though mention is made of Mayon(Vishnu),in the earliest available Tamil text Tholkaapiyam.

b)Tamil Kings attended the Swayamvara of sita of Ramayana and even Nala and Dmayanti not not to forget the Swayamvara of Draupadi.

c)Tamil Kings participated in the Mahabharata battle.

d)Lord krishna and Arjuna visited Tamil Nadu then the Dravida Desa, married there and had children through Tamil princesses .

e)Balarama worshiped Lord Subrahmanya, called Murugan in Tamil, in South India.

f) Kapila who compiled the Purananuru, a Sangam Classic states that he was from Dwaraka.

g) Parashurama came from south and though he is considered an avatar of Vishnu he worshiped Shiva and received Pasupathasrara.

h)Arjuna received Pasupathastra  in the south.

Now Satyavrata Manu moved to North.

Who had been left behind and who and where had Shiva, Ganesha and Murugan gone?

My research indicates  that Shiva and Ganesha left through the middle east ,traveling through Europe, Africa, what is now called Americas, to Arctic and returned to India  through the Khyber pass. leaving behind a trail of Sanatana Dharma .

Nothing else could account for the artifacts , language affinity and cultural heritage found throughout the area.

Their home-coming through the Khyber has been interpreted or misinterpreted as Aryan Invasion.

Thus the genes prove that the early humans were from the south , moved northwards and westwards.

They could have moved towards he east as well.

This is certain because of the spread of Santana Dharma in the far east, extending up to New  Zealand and Australia.

Please check mu Pots on all these.

One of the advantages of not  being a scholar is that I am not bound by one study.

I can study various studies, research  papers and collate with Indian sources and arrive at a Theory.

If west can rely only on western sources, why not rely on western and Indian sources?

Excerpt ,Sources from different studies

The first group spread across the upper and middle reaches of the map, the Austro-Asiatics (the tribals or Adivasis) were clustered in the centre and east, the Dravidians covered the south as far up as Andhra Pradesh and the Tibeto-Burmans were confined to small border areas to the north.

“Now look at these. This stuff was very unexpected.” He pointed at the coloured circles on the map. “You will see that Indians are more similar than you would think across the country. There are membership exchanges within these four groups. It’s all mixing up, even with the Dravidians.”

Now I understood the circles: they showed genetic groups where you would least expect to find them. In Kashmir, there were people who were genetically similar to Dravidians. In Gujarat and eastern Orissa the same was true, though the markers were weaker. In parts of Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka in the south of the country, the situation was reversed: here were Indo-Europeans. In Madhya Pradesh in central India, you could find groups whose ancestors had come from the Himalayas. So people who thought they were a product of a place where their family had lived for in infinite generations were genetically closer to Indians who lived a thousand miles away, and spoke a different language.

When I pointed to a spot on the map and asked Dr Mukhopadhyay exactly where it was, he hesitated. “We don’t say the place names. We agreed, because of the political risks, not to release the ID of the blood-sampled groups — Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs. This is uncomfortable territory.” He touched two red circles near Pakistan. “They probably would not eat in one another’s home. How deep are our genetic relationships, and yet how different are our social relationships. The cultural structures we are following are new: it takes time for practices like not marrying into another community to come out genetically. It takes a few thousand years.”

Tens of thousands of years?

“No, thousands of years.”

So with all this mixing and complexity, could you test for caste?

“There is no scientific basis to say you could have a caste gene. For a start, in our research we use samples of fifty or a hundred people, not individuals. If you test a population group in India and look at twelve genetic markers — DNA sequence variations — you have nearly a 100 per cent chance of knowing if they are tribals or not, and an 85 per cent chance of establishing their language group. The data would not tell you the caste, because there is no basis.( http://www.hindustantimes.com/books/a-brahmin–in-your-genes/article1-650873.aspx )

This would tell you the Russian, Arctic connection of Hindus.

‘I want to highlight one aspect which is not in the abstract: the closest population to the “Ancestral North Indians”, those who contributed the West Eurasian component to modern Indian ancestry, seem to be Georgians and other Caucasians. Since Reconstructing Indian Population History many have suspected this. I want to highlight in particular two genome bloggers, Dienekes and Zack Ajmal, who’ve prefigured that particular result. But wait, there’s more! The figure which I posted at the top illustrates that it looks like Indo-European speakers were subject to two waves of admixture, while Dravidian speakers were subject to one!