Kumari Kandam.image

Tamil Chola Kings List From 3020 BCE to 245 BCE,Missing 160 Million Years


The study of Puranas and ancient Tamil literature is exciting.

Thanks to the educational system introduced by the British, we have been trained to take Indian history as legends and figment of imagination.

Till the advent of Internet we had no means of checking whether what is mentioned in Indian texts is fact or fiction.

Now resources are available in the Internet, not only in English but in other languages as well.

If one cares to check these resources one would find corroboration of Indian Texts.

Astro dating, linguistics, anthropology, archeology, Carbon dating, Infrared dating resources are aplenty to validate Indian texts.

Cross referencing Indian texts with Foreign authors,right from Plato,Thucycides is possible.

Some interesting facts about ancient Indian history emerge.

There was Sanatana Dharma of India which preceded all civilizations.

It was present throughout the world.

The current date assigned to Rig Veda, Hinduism as 5000 BC is no longer valid as Sanatana Dharma goes back possibly by million years!

Another curious fact is the presence of Dravidas in the south of Vindhya ranges.

This civilization quotes Vedas and they quote Tamil,a Dravidian culture.

Enough material is available to prove that the Dravidian Kings were the forerunners of Sanatana Dharma and the first Man Manu was a Dravidian King.

The Cholas were cousins of Ikshvaku Dynasty,by virtue of Manu’s daughter having been Married to a,Chola King.

Tamil kings,Chera,Chola and Pandyas were respected by the kings from the region where Sanatana Dharma was flourishing.

Three kings,Aryavarman,Ariyappadaikadantha Neduncheralaathan and Imayavarmban Neduncheralaathan invaded North India and settles people there.

One can find Brahui,a Dravidian language is found in Balochisthan and Afghanisthan even today.

Tamil is spoken among the Cameroonians even today.

Traces of Tamil culture is found among Hitties,Elamites,Aztecs and Mayans.

The Home of Tamils ,Lemuria is 230 million years old and Himalayas was not even formed then.

Himalayas were formed about 70 million years ago.

The issues that confounds are,

Who influenced whom,Sanatana Dharma, Tamil or is it the other way around?

If Dravidians/languages are found throughout the world and especially in the North of India,how come they were in South ,when did they move and why.

What was lying in the north of Vengadam,Seshachalam hills,the northern boundary of Lemuria between 230 million years ago and 70 million years ago when Himalayas was formed?

One finds details of Shiva in Lemuria, but only limited information about him in Sanatana Dharma,that too relating to Himalayas and His marrying Uma.

Why?

I am searching ,through I have written articles on these issues.

To unravel this one has to check the Kings List of Tamil Nadu.

There are references in foreign sources and Puranas about these Prehistoric kings and I intend finding out the Truth.

For instance, Chera king was named as Aryavarman and the term varma is of Sanatana Dharma origin where the Kshtriyas,Kings use Varma as surnames.

This king is mentioned in Iranian legends!

I had written on Tamil Kings List from 404 BC,where I have covered Cheras and later Cholas.

I am yet to write on Pandyas.

Herebelow I provide list of Tamil Kings from

  • Eri Oliyan Vaendhi C. 3020 BCE
  • Maandhuvaazhi C. 2980 BCE
  • El Mei Nannan C. 2945 BCE
  • Keezhai Kinjuvan C. 2995 BCE
  • Vazhisai Nannan C. 2865 BCE
  • Mei Kiyagusi Aerru C. 2820 BCE
  • Aai Kuzhi Agusi Aerru C. 2810 BCE
  • Thizhagan Maandhi C. 2800 BCE
  • Maandhi Vaelan C. 2770 BCE
  • Aai Adumban C. 2725 BCE
  • Aai Nedun jaet chozha thagaiyan C. 2710 BCE
  • El Mei Agguvan a.k.a. Keezh nedu mannan C. 2680 BCE
  • Mudiko Mei Kaalaiyam Thagaiyan C. 2650 BCE
  • Ilangok keezh kaalaiyan thagaiyan a.k.a. Ilangeezh nannan C. 2645 BCE -start of Kadamba lineage by his brother Aai Keezh Nannan
  • Kaalaiyan gudingyan C. 2630 BCE
  • Nedun gaalayan dhagayan C. 2615 BCE
  • Vaengai nedu vael varaiyan C.2614 BCE
  • Vaet kaal kudingyan C. 2600 BCE
  • Maei Ila vael varaiyan C. 2590 BCE
  • Sibi Vendhi C. 2580 BCE
  • Paru nonji chaamazhingyan C. 2535 BCE
  • Vaeqratrtri chembiya chozhan C. 2525 BCE
  • Saamazhi chozhiya vaelaan C. 2515 BCE
  • Uthi ven gaalai thagan C. 2495 BCE
  • Nannan that kaalai thagan C. 2475 BCE
  • Vel vaen mindi C. 2445 BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 2415 BCE
  • Nedu nonji Vendhi C. 2375 BCE
  • Maei Vael paqratrtri C. 2330 BCE
  • Aai Perun thoan nonji C. 2315 BCE
  • Kudiko pungi C. 2275 BCE
  • Perun goep poguvan C. 2250 BCE
  • Koeth thatrtri C. 2195 BCE
  • Vadi sembiyan C. 2160 BCE
  • Aalam poguvan C. 2110 BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 2085 BCE
  • Perum paeyar poguvan C. 2056 BCE
  • Kadun jembiyan C. 2033 BCE
  • Nedun kathan C. 2015 BCE
  • Paru nakkan C. 1960 BCE
  • Vani sembiyan C. 1927 BCE
  • Udha chira mondhuvan C. 1902 BCE
  • Perun kaththan C. 1875 BCE
  • Kadun kandhalan C. 1860 BCE
  • Nakka monjuvan C. 1799 BCE
  • Maarko vael Maandhuvan Aaththikko C. 1786 BCE
  • Musukunthan Vaendhi C. 1753 BCE
  • Peru nakkan Thatrtri C. 1723 BCE
  • Vaer kaththan C. 1703 BCE
  • Ambalaththu Irumundruvan C. 1682 BCE
  • Kaari mondhuvan C. 1640 BCE
  • Vennakkan Thatrtri C. 1615 BCE
  • Maarko chunthuvan C. 1565 BCE
  • Vaer parunthoan mundruvan C. 1520 BCE
  • Udhan kaththan C. 1455 BCE
  • Kaariko sunthuvan C. 1440 BCE
  • Vendri nungunan C. 1396 BCE
  • Mondhuvan Vendhi C. 1376 BCE
  • Kaandhaman C. 1359 BCE
  • Mundruvan Vendhi C. 1337 BCE
  • Kaandhaman C. 1297 BCE
  • Monjuvan Vendhi C. 1276 BCE
  • Ani sembiyan C. 1259 BCE
  • Nungunan Vendhi C. 1245 BCE
  • Maarkop perum Cenni C. 1229 BCE
  • Monjuvan Nanvendhi C. 1180 BCE
  • Kop perunar chenni C. 1170 BCE
  • Monthuvan jembiyan C. 1145 BCE
  • Narchenni C. 1105 BCE
  • Caet chembiyan C. 1095 BCE
  • Nakkar chenni C. 1060 BCE
  • Parun jembiyan C.1045 BCE
  • Venjenni C. 998 BCE
  • Musugunthan C. 989 BCE
  • Maarkop perun jembiyan C. 960 BCE
  • Nedunjenni C.935 BCE
  • Thatchembiyan C. 915 BCE
  • Ambalaththu iruvaer chembiyan C. 895 BCE
  • Kaariko chenni C. 865 BCE
  • Venvaer chenni C. 830 BCE
  • Kaandhaman, C. 788 BCE
  • Kaandhalan C. 721 BCE
  • Caetchenni C. 698 BCE
  • Vani nungunan C. 680 BCE
  • Mudhu sembiyan Vendhi C. 640 BCE
  • Peelan jembiyach chozhiyan C. 615 BCE
  • Maeyan gadungo C. 590 BCE
  • Thiththan C. 570 BCE
  • Perunar killi Porvaiko C. 515 BCE
  • Kadu mundruvan C. 496 BCE
  • Kopperunjozhan C. 495 BCE
  • Narkilli Mudiththalai C. 480 BCE
  • Thevvan go chozhan C. 465 BCE
  • Naran jembiyan C. 455 BCE
  • Nakkam peela valavan C. 440 BCE
  • Iniyan thevvan jenni C. 410 BCE
  • Varcembiyan C. 395BCE
  • Nedun jembiyan C. 386 BCE
  • Nakkan aran jozhan C. 345 BCE
  • Ambalathu irungoch chenni C. 330 BCE
  • Perunar killi C. 316 BCE
  • Kochaet Cenni C. 286 BCE
  • Cerupazhi Erinda Ilanjaetcenni, C. 275 BCE
  • Nedungop perunkilli C. 220 BCE
  • Cenni Ellagan C. 205 BCE
  • Perun gilli C. 165 BCE
  • Kopperun jozhiyav ilanjaetcenni C. 140 BCE
  • Perunar killi Mudiththalai ko C. 120 BCE
  • PerumpootCenni C. 100 BCE
  • Ilam perunjenni C. 100 BCE
  • Perungilli Vendhi aka Karikaalan I C. 70 BCE
  • Nedumudi Killi C. 35 BCE
  • Ilavanthigaipalli Thunjiya Maei Nalangilli Caet Cenni, C. 20 BCE
  • Aai Vaenalangilli C. 15 BCE
  • Uruvapakraer Ilanjaetcenni, C. 10 – 16 CE
  • 16–30 CE Kingdom ruled by a series of Uraiyur chieftains
  • Karikaalan II Peruvalaththaan, C. 31 CE
  • Vaer paqradakkai Perunar killi, C. 99 CE
  • Perun thiru mavalavan, Kuraapalli Thunjiya C. 99 CE
  • Nalangilli C. 111 CE
  • Perunarkilli, Kula mutrtraththu Thunjiya C. 120 CE
  • Perunarkilli, Irasasuya vaetta C. 143 CE
  • Vael kadunkilli C. 192 CE
  • Kochenganaan C. 220 CE
  • Nalluruththiran C. 245 CE
  • Source and citation.
  • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendary_early_Chola_kings

Tamils Homeland Lemuria Kumarikandam Three Million Years Old


I had written about the antiquity of Tamils and its close connections to Sanatana Dharma.

One intriguing fact,I have mentioned in many articles,is about Shiva Worship.

While Shiva is mentioned rarely in the Vedas directlty,save Srirudram,no Sukthas directly addressed to Shiva,Tamil literature speaks extensively about Shiva.

While the legend of Shiva is limited to His Marriage with Uma(Parvathi,daughter of Himavan,Daksha) her self immolation in the sacrificial fire in the Yagnya conducted by Her father,And Shiva carrying the body of UMA and the coming into being of the 108 Shakti Peetas,the Tamil literature speaks of 64 Avatars of Shiva,His formulation of Tamil as a language,his sons,apart from Ganesha,Murugan(Subrahmanya)Veerabaahu,Navaveeras,Rudrasena.

And Shiva is called the First Yogi with Sage Agastya,Bhogar and Patanjali as His disciples among others.

Rama is reported to have worshipped Shiva in many places in South India,including Rameswaram.

This probably is one of the strongest clues that Shiva cult preceded Ramayana.

The Sangam classics,dated around 3000 BC,speak of Shiva.

In the light of archelogical findings at Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu sets the Sangam classics by 30,000 Years.

So this is another clue.

The next is Tamil being spoken ,even today,in Afghanisthan as a dialect and in Nortwest frontier province of Pakistan.

I had written that Tamils had a second Capital in the Nortwest of India.

Kind Sibi,a Chola king ruled from there.

He invaded the south and built a Temple in Thirivellarai,near Srirangam,Tamil Nadu for Pundarikaksha,(Vishnu).

Sibi and Manu(not Manusmriti Manu) were Cholas and ancestors of Lord Rama

*please read my articles on these.

So we have two issues.

Tamils preceded Ramayana.

They were present in the northwest of India.

There is evidence that the Tamils lived somewhere near the Gulf of Cambay,Gujarat.

Shall write a detailed article on this.

The present article is about the date of Tamils,whose homeland was Lemuria,/Kumarikandam,/MU)

These three could have been one landmass are different but what can not be disputed is that the land was Tamils homeland.

How old is this land and the people?

Before proceeding further it would be relevant to know about the geographical landmarks provided in Tamil classics.

Sangam literature mentions ‘Thrivengadam’Vada Vengadam’ as the Nothern boundary of Tamil Homeland.

Currently,Tirupati is taken as Venkatam.

This forms a part of Seshacham range of hills and it dates back to 200 million years.

Himalayas were formed only about 70 million years ago.

The reference to Himalayas are not found in Lemuria.

What we have now in Tamil is the works belonging to the The Third Tamil Sangam and one finds reference to Himalayas.

The earlier works belonging to second and first Tamil Sangam were lost due to Tsunami.

They could have contained more references to Lemuria.

The reason why Himalayas is not found in Lemuria is because Himalayas was not formed then while Seshachalalam, Vada vengadam was in existence.

I shall be writing on the mountains,rivers of Lemuria as found in Tamil classics.

In as much as Vengadam is mentioned and not Himalayas,it is safe to postulate that Tamils refer to a period when Seshachalam was in existence and Himalayas yet to be Formed.

Thiruvannamalai,which has a Shiva temple representing Shiva as Fire is 3.94 Billion years old.
Thirupati,Seshachalam is 2100 million years old.

Thirupati Balaji aarthi. image

Thirupati Balaji,Seshachachalam.

These dates have been verified by Tectonics and Infrared imaging technology.

Now more evidence about Lemuria,Home of Tamils,being 200 million years old.

Featured image credit. http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/lemuria-australia-pacific/#

This page created for  trivia and commentary regarding the Tretya Yuga [Silver Age]and the continent of Mu, or Lemuria. [- E.M.]

*Trivia: “[….] The Tretya Yuga, or Silver Age, came after the breakup of the previous age, when Lemuria, by earthquakes and tidal waves, went down under the seas. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, p. 113, Second Edition – 1988] 

*Trivia: “[….] These records tell us that the legendary paradise of man, thought of as the Garden of Eden, was laid on the lost continent of Lemuria which was sunk by earthquakes and tidal waves fifty thousand years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 107]

   Considered to be Earth’s first great civilization, Mu [Lemuria] could naturally be placed in the *Golden Age [about 3,891,102 B.C. – 2,163,102 B.C.] in order to fit a popular mythological paradigm of four [Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron] great ages. My dates for these four ages [Yugas] were figured by using 3,102 B.C. as a starting date for Kali Yuga [Iron Age] and subtracting the appropriate fractions from 4,320,000 years to determine the rest. Most remarkable, perhaps, is the fact Paul Twitchell appeared to suggest two dates [separated by nearly 2 million years] for the destruction of Lemuria: roughly 2 million B.C. & 50,000 B.C. What are the reasons for these two dates? Can a continent sink twice? Or, during his research, was Paul Twitchell faced with more than one popular paradigm concerning the beginning of civilization? [- E.M.]

* See: pp. 16 and 98 (or Index page reference for Yuga / Satya) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book One, by Paul Twitchell; p.77 (or Index page reference for Age / Golden) The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book Two, by Paul Twitchell; pp. 55 and 163 (or Index page reference for Satya Yuga & Tretya Yuga) The ECK-VIDYA Ancient Science of Prophecy, by Paul Twitchell.

*Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth some hundreds of thousands of years ago. It was a land of the Aryans who spread the empire throughout the world. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, seventh printing, 1982, p. 97 & eighth printing, 1986, p. 97 ]

*Trivia: “[….] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the crust of the earth that formed some hundreds of thousands of years ago. [….]” [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition – 1988, p. 112]

*Note: “Paul Twitchell died in September, 1971.” [– E.M]

   The foregoing two sections of text appear not entirely the same. The newer edition [1988] contains the words that formed. To me [at least for now], this appears to suggest that [hundreds of thousands of years ago] gas pockets were formed under the crust of the earth. The older version of this text [1982 & 1986], however, “appears to suggest” it was the destruction of Lemuria that happened hundreds of thousands of years ago. That is, before the beginning of the Tretya Yuga about 2 million B.C. [- E.M.]

Col. James Churchward suggests a starting date for Mu [Lemuria] at about 200,000 B.C. He bases this date, allegedly, on ancient Nacaal tablets. According to the position of certain stars recorded on those tablets [according, that is, to the conclusion of certain astronomers], he thus determines the date. On the other hand, the final destruction of Mu, according to Churchward, appears to have taken place between 10,000 & 11,000 years B.C.” [- E.M.]

   So here we have a case of popular apparent history for one of the oldest recorded civilizations on earth. One that, according to such history, apparently sank beneath the waves of the Pacific Ocean anywhere from 2 million to 10,000 years B.C.
Even more astonishing, perhaps, is the classic church story about how the Garden of Eden and the beginning of the world began at just around 4,000 B.C. Only in the last two hundred years have other older dates for creation really begun to gain public attention. Writers contemporary with the 20th and 21st centuries were once engaged with promoting dates of between ten and fifteen thousand years B.C. for the Biblical flood; not to mention the beginning of man on earth – which probably goes back even further. Of course, some contemporary authors now favor the idea of all four Hindu yugas corresponding – more or less – with the popular 5,000-plus-year cycle for Mayan “suns”, which could have the oldest of them beginning around the 4th millennium B.C.
Obviously, a paradigm shift has been taking place for a number of years. A regular see-saw of dates, or a “hall of mirrors” that “seems to matter”. [- E.M.]

Source. 

http://mirrorh.com/mu.html 

Quote on Tholkaapiyam by a scholar.image.

 Lemuria The Home of Tamils My Tedtalk at Coimbatore.


I delivered a talk under the aegis of Tedx ,Combatore on April 8th.

The event was streamed live.

I am yet to receive the video or the photographs from the event organisers.

I saw the photos at Tedx Coimbatore site.

Ramanan. Image.

Ramanan at Tedx Coimbatore.

This is is at Flickr.

Ramanan Tedtalk.image.

Ramanan Tedtalk Coimbatore.

Kumarikandam.image.

Kumarikandam, Ramanis blog

 

Many readers ,who have watched the event Live, have been asking me to share the material.

As I had told the organisers I am very uncomfortable speaking from a prepared text or notes and I speak extempore.

As the time allotted was 13 minutes, I had to prepare notes and it was a novel and nerve racking experience for me to take notes and rehearse at 1.30 am(?), with two people with Timers.

It is a different matter that I did not follow the prepared text to the letter in the Talk,though I was  informed stuck to points and ppt thrown up on the screen.

I am reproducing the Talk from the notes I had prepared.

I shall share the video as and when received.

‘ Earth .1 Billion Years Ago. Note India near the present Arctic.

Rodina ,Super Continent. Image.

Rodina,the Super Continent 1.1 billion years ago.

Lemuria Boundary.

Lemuria,the sunken Continent .

Gadira,Spain, in the West

Australia, in the East

Vindhya Mountains in the North

Then Madurai in the South.

Southern  End of Lemuria  was located to the south of Kanyakumari,Then Madurai

Covered an area of 700 kavatam- Nakkerar in his commentry of Iraiynar Agapporul

One Kavatam Is Ten Miles.

Sage Agastya is found in New Zealand

Shiva Trinetra Dance by Australian Aborigines

Cookes Island,Lake Pukkaki. ,New Zealand referred in Sundarakanda,Ramayana

Kanyakumari to New Zealand 11204 km or 7002 miles

Lemuria From North to South .Vindhyas to Then Madurai(near New Zealand)

Population of Lemuria.

64 Million

(James Churchwad.)

Lands in Lemuria.
Elu teñku natu (“Seven coconut lands”)

Elu Maturai natu (“Seven mango lands”)

Elu munpalai natu (“Seven front sandy lands”)

Elu pinpalai natu (“Seven back sandy lands”)

Elu kunra natu (“Seven hilly lands”)

Elu kunakarai natu (“Seven coastal lands”)

Elu kurumpanai natu (“Seven dwarf-palm lands”)’ –

-Adiyarrkku Nallar in commentary on Silappadikaram.

Lemuria, Timeline.

200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of “the Tamilian or Homo Dravida”,ca. 200,000 to 100,000 BC: beginnings of the Tamil language50,000 BC: Kumari Kandam civilisation20,000 BC: A lost Tamil culture of the Easter Island which had an advanced civilisation16,000 BC: Lemuria submerged6087 BC: Second Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king3031 BC: A Chera prince in his wanderings in the Solomon Island saw wild sugarcane and started cultivation in Tamilnadu.1780 BC: The Third Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king7th century BC: Tolkappiyam (the earliest extant Tamil grammer)…

-Tamil Etymological Dictionary Project,Govt. Of Tamil Nadu.

Tamil Sangam Literature.

Ettuththogai-Eight Works

Pathuppattu-Ten Works.

Pathinen Melkanakku-Eighteen Works

Pathinen Keezhkkanakku-Eighteen Works.

These belong to Sangam Period.,possibly the Third Sangam

Agathiyam,First Sangam- Lost

Tholkaapiyam ,oldest available work is dated 865 BC

Lemuria,Proof.

1.Naan Madol Ruins in  Federated States of Micronesia,Western Pacific.
2.Poompuhar

An old port  Poompuhar, mentioned in early Tamil Classics, especially in detail in the Silappadikaram, has been found and it reveals a Man made Port of 11000 Years!
3.Attirampakkam site

Stone Age Site 60 km from,Chennai

One hundred and fifty years ago, on May 30, 1863, young geologist Robert Bruce Foote bent down and picked up a stone tool on the Parade Ground at Pallavaram cantonment, near Chennai. It turned out to be an epochal discovery. Foote’s discovery revolutionised the study of India’s pre-history.

Attirampakkam (13°13′50″N, 79°53′20″E, 38.35 m a.s.l), is an open-air Palaeolithic site situated near a meandering tributary stream of the river Kortallaiyar, northwest of Chennai.

4.Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralaathan Provided food Mahabharata War.

Malayathwaja Pandya,Madurai Meenakshi’s father took part in the War.

Krishna Married a Pandyan Princess,had a daughter.

Balarama worshiped Murugan.

Satyavrata Manu,Rama’s ancestor, was a Dravida King.

Sibi,ancestor of Rama built a Vishnu Temple,Thiruvellarai,near Srirangam.

5.Tamil names in Harappa,Mohenjadaro Region,includes Town names.
சிந்துவெளி மற்றும் அரப்பாவில் ”கொற்கை, வஞ்சி, தொண்டி வளாகம்”சிந்துவெளியில் சங்கத் தமிழரின் துறைமுகங்கள், தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் ஊர்களின் பெயர்கள்பாகிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Gorkai. Gorkhai), வஞ்சி (Vanji), தொண்டி(Tondi), மத்ரை (Matrai), உறை (Urai), கூடல் கட் (Kudal Garh) மற்றும் கோளி (Koli); ஆப்கானிஸ்தானிலுள்ள கொற்கை (Korkay. Gorkay). பூம்பகார் (Pumbakar) ஆகிய ஊர்ப் பெயர்கள் சங்க இலக்கியங்களில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ள தலைநகரங்கள் மற்றும் துறைமுக நகரங்களின் பெயர்களான கொற்கை. வஞ்சி. தொண்டி. மதுரை. உறையூர். கூடல். கோழி. பூம்புகார் ஆகியவற்றை நினைவுபடுத்துகின்றன.’
6.The present formations of India, Arabia, Africa, Antarctica, South America and Australia started breaking up due to natural upheavals and moving to different parts of the earth at the rate of 15,000 years per mile on an average and found their places in the Asian Continent. The movement of the earth mass, called Navalam Theevu in Tamil, caused the formation of the present continent of India.(McKenzie and Sclater American Geologists).

7.Lemuria, one of the world’s oldest civilizations, about 2.5 lakh years ago, in Indonesia. Hence, Lemuria and Kumari Kandam, which existed in southern part of India, are different lands.

(Frank Joseph, Secretary for Ancient American Association, in his book “The Lost Civilization of Lemuria”, )

8.It was only during the final days of Atlantis that the Lemurians broke these seals and thus saved many surface dwellers from certain death. These people formed a society that subsequently returned for a time to the surface and became the Rama Empire situated in Southern Asia. Then the Great Flood of 8,000 BC ended this attempt to save humanity from the dark ways of the Anunnaki.  (Atlantis Legend)

The points mentioned are explained in detail in the site, Category ,Tamils.

I shall locate them and share as, as usual I forgot.

This was what I intended to speak.

Question: Who here can remember the name of their great, great

grandfather?

Glory of Tamil Language

1) A language which is so structured that the sounds of the alphabet

are reflected in its very name – Tamil

2) Complex and Noble thoughts – 7 words – Tirukural. Long poetic

story in 1 sentence without full stop – Silapadikaram

3) Helps you think clearly and express precisely – because of its

mathematically oriented grammatic structure (Short example)

4) Ranked on par with Sanskrit – Evolved to grammatical precision

over 1,50,000 years

Where did this language come from? My research has revealed

that it comes from a lost continent – a continent called Kumari

Kandam.

(Describing geography and size of Kumari Kandam)

1) Kumari Kandam – Named after Kanyakumari

2) It was immense having a land mass of 34 million square miles –

approximately 29 times the size of present India. And it had a

population of 64 million.

3) It extended to Newzealand, spain etc.

4) Traces of Lemuria can be found even today – Agastya in New

Zealand, Shiva dance in Australia, Boomerang as an ancient

weapon.

5) So diverse – It was divided into 7 groups of 7 each, totalling 49

territories – Mango land, coconut land etc

6) And there was something special about those territories –

Question to audience – How many here have family deities –

please raise hand. Actually very ancient custom – In Kumari

Kantam they assigned different Gods to different lands.

What kind of a society did they have?

Very intricate and elaborate society structure. For instance, lets take

marriage – how many types of marriage do we have today? I would say

3 types – Arranges, Love and Elopment/Running Away.

In Kumari Kantam they had 7 types of marriage… What happened to this society?

Unfortunately a tsunami destroyed Kumari Kandam in1780 BC

approximately. Only remnants of this great society can be found

throughout the world. Let’s look at a few remnants in India.

1) Remnants of Great literature

2) Poomphuhar etc.

3) Traditions such as Ancestory worship, Pongal, Adi Perukku, Chitra

Pournami

Conclusion

In conclusion , I’d like to leave you with a few thoughts on the

amazingly pervasive nature of Tamil culture.

1) Manu – Man, First human being was a king of Tamil nation

2) A Tamil Chera king was such a legendary figure for his honesty

and integrity that he was appointed to feed the warring armies

in Mahabarata.

3) Tamil has a great soul! City is mine and everyone is my relativE.

What I actually spoke will be known when I receive the Video.

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Kerala Kingdoms Date Back to Ramayana Mushika Ays


Contrary to popular belief,there were five Kingdoms of the Tamils and not three kingdoms,Chera,Chola and Pandya.

The five Kingdoms are,

Chera,

Chola,

Pandya,

Mushika and

Ay.

While the Chera Kingdom extended ,

‘By the early centuries of the Common Era, civil society and statehood under the Cheras were developed in present-day western Tamil Nadu. The location of the Chera capital is generally assumed to be at modern Karur (identified with the Korura of Ptolemy). The Chera kingdom later extended to the plains of Kerala, the Palghat gap, along the river Bharathappuzha and occupied land between the river Bharathappuzha and river Periyar, creating two harbour towns, Tondi (Tyndis) and Muciri (Muziris),where the Roman trade settlements flourished.

The Chola and Pandya Kingdoms were in the interior parts of the present Tamil Nadu.

The western coastal areas were ruled by Cheras,Mushikas and Ays Dynasties.

As the first Chera has been mentioned as having participated in the Mahabharata battle, Chera kingdom is mentioned in the  Aitreya Aranyaka of the Rig Veda Ramayana,Sumerian texts and by various historians of Greece,these Kingdoms are to be dated at least towards 5000BC,when Ramayana took place.

For date of Ramayana,please read my article on the date of Ramayana.

Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu,also called as Vaiwasvatha Manu was from  the south of Vindhya mountains and the region where he reigned was located  near and included Madagascar.

And this was a part of Lemuria/MU.

So the date of these Chera kingdoms,of which the present State of Kerala was a part,may safely pushed back to 5000 BC.

And the landmass then was different,it was in Lemuria/MU.

lemuria

‘The Cheras were an ancient Dravidian royal dynasty of Tamil origin. The first to establish an historical ruling dynasty in the area, they ruled wide-ranging areas of Tamil Nadu and Kerala in south-eastern and south-western India respectively, areas that had been settled since at least 5000 BC, when Neolithic carvings had been left in Edakkal Caves. Chera territory included regions such as Venad, Kuttanad, Kudanad, Pazhinad, and others, encompassing the area between Kanya Kumari in the south to Kasargod in the north (now in the far north of Kerala). Also included in this list are Palghat, Coimbatore, Salem and Kollimalai, although they quite probably did not rule all of these areas at all times as ancient borders could be quite fluid at times. Their core territory was in Kerala, while the later rise of the Pallavaspushed them out of Tamil Nadu. However, they did establish a capital at Vanchi, which was known by the Romans as Muzris after an active sea-borne trade sprang up between the two powers.’

The first Chera King was Vanavaramban” Perumchottu Uthiyan Cheralathan.

He took part in the Mahabharata War as the provider of food both to Pandava and Kaurava armies.

He had two sons,each ruling a part of Chera kingdom.

Mushika Kingdom.

‘The Mushika Kingdom (Mushaka Rajya, also called Ezhimalai Rajya, Puzhinadu, Kolathunadu, Chirakkal Rajya among the more common names) was an ancient kingdom of the Tamil Sangam period in present-day Kerala, India, ruled by a royal dynasty of the same name. Its dominions, for most of its recorded history, covered the present-day regions of Northern Kerala, Tulunadu and Coorg, between the western slopes of the Western Ghats in the East and the Arabian Sea in the West.It was one of the five primary ruling dynasties in the ancient Tamilakam of recorded history, and in the Tamil Sangam Period, along with the Cheras, the Pandyas, the Cholas and the Ays. Ezhimalai Nannan was the most powerful ruler of Ezhimalai. He expanded the kingdom to include Gudalur and Coimbatore in his lifetime.

Reference to Mushikas in Mahabharata.

The Mahabharata mentions the Mushika as one of the kingdoms of South India, and is grouped with the Cheras, Pandyas and Cholas.The Mushika Dynasty in the Mahabharata indicates the Ay Dynasty in Thiruvananthapuram area possibly before the formally known Mushika Dynasty branched out.

The Tamil Sangam period is replete with mention of the Mushika Family, and especially that of their most famous ruler Nannan, who had his capital at Pazhi (Pazhayangadi).

The Greek traveler Strabo, who lived around 100 BCE, mentions the kingdom of Mushika in his accounts. The Greek geographer Ptolemy mentions the Ay Dynasty, the mother dynasty of Nannan (Mushika) in the Second Century C.E, and refers to it as “Aoi”

Ays.

The Ay dynasty (I / Ai dynasty) (later known as the Venad and subsequently the Thiruvithamkur Dynasty) ruled parts of southern India from the early Sangam age, which spanned from c. 3rd century BC to c. 4th century AD, till the Independence of India. At their zenith, the dynasty ruled an area extending from Tiruvalla in the north to Nagercoil in the south including western Ghats inn the east.One part of the Ayi Kingdom was headquartered in Mavelikkara while another was headquartered at Periyaoor, later called Keezhperoor, Aykudi, Alwarkurichi,Tenkasi (Ayiraperi village), .

References and citations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ay_kingdom

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chera_dynasty

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushika_Kingdom

 

This king is mentioned in the eighth decade of the century by the poet Arisil Kilar after winning a great victory at Takadur against the Adiyaman and two great kings. However, his position in this list is highly subject to change, and he is never shown in the same place twice in other lists. He also goes by the name of Karuvar-Eryia-ol-val-ko-Perunceral Irumporai. It seems likely that he is the son or descendant of Yanaikat-sey Mantaran Cheral (of the second century AD), but the Barr List places him first (as does the Pillai list), ahead of the more traditional founder of the dynasty, Perumchottu Uthiyan Cheralathan, who is shown as the third ruler.

The succession after Peruncheral is where things become really complicated. The kingdom appears to divide in two or, more probably, forms a boundary region that is governed by a junior member of the royal house. Each of Peruncheral’s sons gain a throne of their own with one, seemingly the Vanavar (Vanavarambanas) branch, being the senior.

Natuvan (or Antuvan) Cheral Irumporai and Udiyan Cheral have been connected together as those two sons, since they are already accepted as being brothers. However, it is not certain that Peruncheral is their father. The accepted story is that Udiyan, carrying the dynastic name Vanavaramban, succeeds his father and conquers territory to the north, but he later places his brother Antuvan in charge there to begin a co-ruling ‘dynasty’ while he rules the main kingdom

Source.http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsFarEast/IndiaCheras.htm

Tamraparni River Flowed in Lemuria


References in Indian literature might be wished away,if one language mentions a fact.

But it can not be if two languages,which are totally different from each other in Grammar,literature mention the same fact.

Mahabharata

Listen as I now recount the isle of Tamraparni below Pandya-desa and KanyaKumari, gemmed upon the ocean. The gods underwent austerities there, in a desire to attain greatness. In that region also is the lake of Gokarna…Pulastya said… Then one should go to Gokarna, renowned in the three worlds. O Indra among kings! It is in the middle of the ocean and is worshipped by all the worlds. Brahma, the Devas, the rishis, the ascetics, the bhutas (spirits or ghosts), the yakshas, the pishachas, the kinnaras, the great nagas, the siddhas, the charanas, the gandharvas, humans, the pannagas, rivers, ocean and mountains worship Uma’s consort there”. Mahabharata. Volume 3. pp. 46-47, 99.’

One must also remember that the culture of people who spoke and wrote in these languages was different,though there is unity lying underneath the surface.

I am referring to Sanskrit,two of the ancient languages of not only of India,but of the world.

These two repeatedly mention the Tamraparani River,now flowing in the south of Tamil Nadu.

Tamraparni is referred to in Tamil Classic Kalithogai and Sanskrit texts.

Tamraparani,aka Thammabanni in Pali flowed into Sri Lanka and Vijaya,the first King of Lanka was from Tamils.

The river flowed into Sri Lanka as well.

Kumari Kandam.image

Kumari kandam

Considering this and Manu having meditated in Madagascar, I postulate that Tamraparni flowed into Lemuria in ancient times and dynasties flourished.

While researching for the material to support my view, I had come across information about the Malaya Mountain, Malayamarutha.

Malayamarutha is often mentioned in the Ramayana and repeatedly in Tamil Literature.

Tamil is so obsessive with Malaya Mountain, even the Gentle breeze is named after it, Malaya Marutham.

This wind is recorded to have emanated from the south.’

Manu meditated in Madagascar

Sakatdvipa was 25,600,000 mile

 

The 49 lands

This land was divided into 49 Naadu, or territories (probably of the size of small districts) between Kumari river and Pahruli / Prahuli / Pakruli river. These are named as seven coconut territories (Ezhu Tenga Natu), seven Madurai territories (Ezhu Maturai Natu), seven old sandy territories (Ezhu Mun-palai Natu), seven new sandy territories (Ezhu Pin-palai Natu), seven mountain territories (Ezhu Kunra Natu), seven eastern coastal territories (Ezhu Kuna Karai Natu) and seven dwarf-palm territories (Ezhu Kurum Panai Natu). All these lands, together with the many-mountained land that began with Kumari-Kollam, with forests and habitations, were submerged by the sea.

Tamil Nadu was not the whole Tamil Kingdom.

Block quote from,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamraparni is the reference for this article.

‘an ancient name of a river proximal to Tirunelveli of South India and Puttalam of Western Sri Lanka.A toponym, “Tamraparniyan” is eponymous with the socio-economic and cultural history of this area and its people. Movement of people across the Gulf of Mannar during the early Pandyan and Anuradhapura periods, between the Tirunelveli river of Pothigai, Adam’s Peak and the estuary of the Gona Nadi/Kala Oya river of Northwest Sri Lanka, Java and Sumatra led to the shared application of the name for the closely connected region’s culture.The entire island of Sri Lanka itself was known in the ancient world as “Tamraparni”, with use dating to before the 6th century BC. It is a rendering of the original Tamil name Tān Poruṇai of the Sangam period, “the cool river Porunai”

‘the original Tān Poruṇai river in the Eṭṭuttokai anthlogy, meaning “the cool river Porunai”, to Tān Poruṇdam then Tamira Porunai, to Tamraparni then Tambraparni and now called Thamirabarani River.A meaning for the term following its derivation became “copper-colored leaf”, from the words Thamiram (copper/red) in Tamil/Sanskrit and parani meaning leaf/tree, translating to “river of red leaves”

‘The region stretching to Sri Lanka south of Tirunelveli – the citadel of the Pandyan kingdom around the Tān Poruṇai river in Tamil Nadu – was referred to as Tamraparna by extension in the ancient period; Korkai, one of the Pandyan kingdom’s early capitals and the epicentre of the pearl trade, was located at the river’s mouth.Referring to pearls, Kautilya in his Arthasastra speaks of two varieties, “Pandya-Kavadaka” (of Kavadapuram) and “Thamro Par nika, that which is produced in the Tamraparni”, and notes the Pandya country is famed for its gems and pearls. He describes Tamraparni as “a large river, which went to meet and traverse the sea (samudram avaghate) containing the row of islands”. In the grammar anthology Tolkāppiyam, the Chera king Yanaikatchai Mantaran Cheral Irumporai, a contemporary of Pandyan king Nedunjeliyan II c. 135 AD, is mentioned in the phrase honouring the Lord of the river Tān-Poruṇai thus, Vitar-c-cilai poritta ventan vali, Pun-tan porunai-p-poraiyan vali, Mantaran ceral mannavan vali which describes “Long live the king who engraved in the hill, Long live the lord of the river Porunai filled with flowers and cool water, Long live the King Mantaran Chera”