Hinduism, Tamils

Who Has The Courage Of Andal To Address Vishnu Thus


I have written on the intimate level in which God is held in Hinduism.

We have many legends historical facts to back this up.

Sanskrit literature abounds in narrating these instances and , if one is of the right disposition, shall bring tears .

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Andal, Srivilliputtur

When Tamil takes position on this?

The result is exquisite.

There are many who have treated God as a Lover, Meera an example.

Andal, an Azhwar by her own right steals the show in this lover role Nayaka Nayaki Bhava.

Her yearning for Vishnu, Krishna is something ephemeral and would melt one’s heart without being erotic.

Tamil calls the satisfaction  in culmination, consummation of Love as pleasure of the Lowest Order while Realizing Reality or communon with God as ecstasy or Bliss.

The former is called as Chirinbam(சிற்றின்பம்)

The latter as Perinbam ( பேரின்பம் )

Andal of Srivilliputhur has composed many exquisite poems and her father Vishnuchitta, Periyaazhvar in One who Blessed even Vishnu!

Of most importance is Andal’s Thiruppavai(which incidentally is being celebrated as a function in  South east Asia), thirty poems oozing Bhakthi and Love for Vishnu, Krishna.

There are such utterances my Andal that bespeaks of her ardent Love.

She has the Love and audacity (?) to call Krishna/ Vishnu as one who was immersed with his wife Nappinnai and instead of asking him to disengage himself, Andal exhorts Nappinnai, Krishna’s wife?

This Poem is recited twice when reciting Thiruppavai (Vagak kadla Kadaintha is also recited twice?

The meaning of the words/sentence in Italics convey more than what has been translated.

I am sure my readers can understand.

Tell me, which religion, or Devotee has the courage and conviction to address as Such?

By the way this is yet another Proof that Lord Krishna married the Pandyan Princess Nappinnai.

Please read my post on this.

Rangamannar in the lap of Andal.jpg Rangamannar in the lap of Andal.

20.முப்பத்து மூவர் அமரர்க்கு முன்சென்று

கப்பம் தவிர்க்கும் கலியே! துயிலெழாய்;

செப்பம் உடையாய்! திறலுடையாய்! செற்றார்க்கு

வெப்பம் கொடுக்கும் விமலா! துயிலெழாய்;

செப்பன்ன மென்முலை செவ்வாய் சிறுமருங்குல்

நப்பின்னை நங்காய்! திருவே! துயிலெழாய்;

உக்கமும் தட்டொளியும் தந்துஉன் மணாளனை

இப்போதே எம்மை நீராட்டேலோ ரெம்பாவாய்.

Translation   By Dr. V.K.S.N. Raghavan

Oh Valiant Lord , who removes the tremblings of the thirty three (crores of) gods , by going to battles (on their behalf) and by being in front of them (in such battles)! Kindly awaken from sleep .Oh Lord , who cares about our protection , and is fully equipped with enormous strength and valour ! Oh Lord , blemishless and pure, and the One who defeats with vigour Your enemies ! Kindly awaken. (now turning to His consort, Nappinnai ) Oh the great Lady Nappinnai , possessing a charming physique –with a jar-shaped soft bosom , enchanting rosy lips and slim waist! Oh the embodiment of Goddess Lakshmi! Be pleased to rise up. May You give us a fan , a mirror and Your Lord as well , and at this time itself , may You help us to take our (ceremonial) bath .

muppaththu  mUvar  amararkku                 mun cenRu *
Thirty      three  immortals (gods) (He who) goes to

kappam         thavirkkum            kaliyE                  thuyilezhaay *
fears (theirs) removes    (You That) heroic one (please) wake up .

ceppam  utaiyaay thiRal      utaiyaay * ceRRaarkku
Perfect one      omni-potent one        enemies (He who)

veppam   kotukkum                vimalaa           thuyilezhaay *
burn(s)  gives (up) , (You That) Lord (please) wake up .

ceppenna               men  mulaic  cev vaayc ciRu    maruNGkul *
Like a perfect vessel  soft breasts red lips  slender waist

nappinnai                            naNGkaay thiruvE            thuyilezhaay *
(You) nappinnai (The Lord's consort) lady     beautiful (please) wake up .

ukkamum    thattoLiyum than^thu                           un   maNaaLanai *
Fan (and)  mirror      give (to us) (please also wake up) your husband (The Lord)

ippOthE        emmai       nIraattu
right now (so) us (we can) bathe .

El                                Or empaavaay
Come (Let us do) (the penance of) paavai nOmbu
Citation.
http://www.ibiblio.org/sripedia/ebooks/tpv/vstp20.html

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Christianity, Hinduism

Samaritans Of Israel Ailas Yadavas Pauravas Of Mahabharata


Mount Meru occupies an important part of Hinduism.

Devi Lalitha is described as sitting in the center of the Mount Sumeru, in Sri Nagara.

Sumeru Mandala Madhyastha Sriman Nagara Nayika- Lalitha Sahasranama.

The Open Secret of India, Israel and Mexico from Genesis to Revelation..jpg The Open Secret of India, Israel and Mexico from Genesis to Revelation.

I have written a few articles on the location of Mount Meru.

Meru is found in all the middle eastern literature , along with the Lotus Motif, a special feature of Devi.

Sumerian culture’s Link with Sanatana Dharma has been dealt with in detail in my earlier Posts.

We have the 786 of Islam being the OM of Hinduism.

There was Shiva Temple in Mecca.

Also in Jordan, Petro Jordan Shiva temple.

The Greeks had a fascination for Krishna and we have many legends of Krishna in Greece and there is enough evidence to suggest that the Greeks worshiped Lord Krishna.

Pillars of Hercules are reported to be a Tribute to Lord Krishna.

Then we have the Tamil connection to Hitti Empire, Mittani,Incas, Aztecs,Mayas.

I have Posts on all these ..

After the epic battle of Mahabharata, exodus from India began .

Many tribes fled from India towards the North and West.

It has come to light that one of the tribes, Ailahs fled to the middle east and the Arabs called their God as Allah, from the Sanskrit speaking tribes Ailah.

Ailas were a part of Yadavas and Pauravs who took part in the Mahabharata battle.

And this tribe did not stop here.

They proceeded further west.

And landed in Samaria.

This is in Israel’s ancient capital.

The Samarians were  mainly concentrated  Mt.Gerer.

We use the word good Samaritans to denote good work.

These Samaritans were of Indian origin.

 

Reference.

The Open Secret of India,Israel and Mexico from Genesis to Revelations by Gene Matlock.
Check out for this book and more.

Assyria, Babylonia & Sumer

Citation.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=VHcANCF9w-AC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=sumeru+mexico&source=bl&ots=t8HeX–nlz&sig=kM2vFnRfU15oF_UQZHwZMXoYZqM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgKahUKEwi2w6vE5JjHAhWOW44KHaUgDG0#v=onepage&q=sumeru%20mexico&f=false

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans

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Hinduism

How Much Do You Trust God


Faith Sustains, Cures, while Reason seeks out explanations.

For those in critical situations, solution to the problem is importnt than the explanations or the rationale.

Help reaches out to those who have Faith, I have seen.

It may not be some thing unnatural or something akin toa miracle.

It could be by an unexpected turn of events , help from an unexpected source or from a Stranger.

Then how come that even for those who have Faith, help does not arrive many a time?

The answer is your return is directly proportional to your investment , in this case , the intensity of Faith.

Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that total, unconditional surrender would beckon Him.

In the Karna Mantra He states,

Sarva Dharman Parthyajyasya Maamekam Charanam Vraja,’

The correct meaning is,

for those who abandon all actions and seek Refuge in Me alone.

He did not come to the aid of Draupadi,also called Krishnai,who was being stripped in an open Hall, though she was crying out to Krishna , at the same time holding on to her clothes.

He came to her when she freed her hands , threw her hands up!

When Tirunavukkarasar( Tamil Saint), called Appar, was  thrown out into the sea with a stone tied around him, he sang,

சொற்றுணை வேதியன் சோதி வானவன் 
பொற்றுணைத் திருந்தடி பொருந்தக் கைதொழக் 
கற்றுணைப் பூட்டியோர் கடலிற் பாய்ச்சினும் 
நற்றுணை யாவது நமச்சி வாயவே. 				4.11.1  Thevaram. by Appar.


Even if you are thrown into the Ocean with a stone around you,

Nama Sivaya, the word of One, Who is,

The Protector of the Word, Vedas,

The Eternal Flame of the Heavens,

For those who worship His feet'

He, The Refuge ,Constant Companion.

This is Thirunavukkarasar's approach.

What does Abhirami Bhattar have to say on this?

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அன்றே தடுத்து என்னை ஆண்டுகொண்டாய், கொண்டது அல்ல என்கை
நன்றே உனக்கு? இனி நான் என் செயினும் நடுக்கடலுள்
சென்றே விழினும், கரையேற்றுகை நின் திருவுளமோ.-
ஒன்றே, பல உருவே, அருவே, என் உமையவளே. Abhirami 30

அபிராமி அன்னையே! என் உமையவளே! நான் பாவங்களைச் செய்வதற்கு முன்பே என்னை தடுத்தாட் கொண்டவளே! நான் பாவங்களையே செய்தாலும், நடுக்கடலில் சென்று வீழ்ந்தாலும், அதனின்று காப்பது நின் கடைமையாகும். என்னை ஈடேற்ற முடியாது என்று சொன்னால் நன்றாகாது. இனி உன் திருவுளம்தான் என்னைக் கரை ஏற்ற வேண்டும் (பந்தபாசக் கடலில் இருந்து முக்திக் கரை ஏற்றுதல்). ஒன்றாகவும், பலவாகவும், விளங்குகின்ற என் உமையவளே!

Mother Abhirami,The One who appears as Many,

You have prevented me from committing Sins and taken over long back,

If I commit sins even now, and I fall in the deep ocean.

It is your Job to take care,

நன்றே வருகினும், தீதே விளைகினும், நான் அறிவது
ஒன்றேயும் இல்லை, உனக்கே பரம்: எனக்கு உள்ளம் எல்லாம்
அன்றே உனது என்று அளித்து விட்டேன்:- அழியாத குணக்
குன்றே, அருட்கடலே, இமவான் பெற்ற கோமளமே. Abhrami Andhadi 90

ஏ, அபிராமி! அழியாத குணக்குன்றே! அருட்கடலே! மலையரசன் பெற்றெடுத்த அழகிய கோமள வல்லியே! எனக்கு உரிமை என்று எப்பொருளும் இல்லை. அனைத்தையும் அன்றே உன்னுடையதாக்கி விட்டேன். இனி எனக்கு நல்லதே வந்தாலும், தீமையே விளைந்தாலும், அவற்றை உணராது விருப்பு, வெறுப்பற்றவனாவேன். இனி என்னை உனக்கே பரம் என்று ஆக்கினேன்.

Let auspiciousness strike me or that which is painful,

I have no idea nor I know of it,

It’s all yours,

For I have you given you all that is supposed to be Mine, including my Mind,

Abhirami, Daughter of The Himalayas,The Ocean of  Graciousness,’

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Hinduism

Whom Did Lord Rama Worship?


My Posts are an attempt to unravel our History, which has been distorted ,erased beyond imagination by the Britishers and other westerners at the instance of the Vatican and the special effort of the Britishers to Divide India and rule it, by sowing seeds of mistrust, disrespect for our scriptures.

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Rameshwaram, where Rama worshiped Shiva.

This was achieved by totally erasing some of our texts,by having the ancient manuscripts shipped abroad, by introducing English as a Medium of instruction totally banishing India Languages, especially Sanskrit and by pseudo Indologists like Max Mueller,a  Missionary by initially trying to write honestly and later interpolating meanings of the Vedas that would make a mockery of Hinduism.

I am trying to piece together our History , thanks to the web, where wittingly or unwittingly the suppressed information about Santana Dharma is available.

It takes a considerable effort to locate them.

That has been the purpose of my Blog, apart from informing the younger generation about how they are inheritors of a Great Culture.

In this process some times information is likely to surface, which may not be palatable to some Hindus even.

For example the information that Vedas do not prohibit women from performing Sraddha or having Upanayana performed for them

Or there is no such thing temple worship.

Or there is no Caste by Birth.

Now I am presenting information about the Avatars of Vishnu,Rama here.

Similar information on other Avatars follows.

After the Vedic period there have been unsavoury pollution of Sanatana Dharam with many schools of Thoughts coming into force, some denying the Vedas, some denying God, but believing in the Vedas,then sects Saivism and Si Vaishnavam

The last one took an ugly turn with each accusing the other and one sect insulting Vishnu and another Shiva.

All are wrong and they do not carry the authority of the Vedas, notwithstanding what the Puranas say.

For a Hindu, the Vedas are The Authority, period,

Now to the question of whom did Lord Rama worship, one depends on Valmiki Ramayana and other Ramayana also by Valmiki.

Now Valmiki Ramayana is the one being accepted as the source.

Lord Rama belonged to Surya Vamsa, the Solar Dynasty.

As such Surya the Sun is their Deity.

That Surya is considered as the expression of Vishnu is another matter.\

However Lord Krishna says , in the Bhagavad Gita,otherwise.

He says He is Vishnu, not as the other way.

Adhityaanam aham  Vishnu and not as

Vishnunnam Aham Adhitya.

So Rama. following family Traditions, worshiped Surya.

Apart from this Rama worshiped Shiva a couple of times the important one being His Worship of Lord Shiva, at Rameswaram to rid of the Brahmahathi Dosha accrued by killing Ravana, a vedicV scholar.

Rama also worshiped Surya in the battle field for mental strength and victory, at the instance of Sage Agastya.

Thus was born the Adhitya Hrudayam Sloka.

Rama also seemed to have worshiped Devi though Valmiki does not mention this in Ramayana.

‘As per Patteeshwaram Ashtabhuja Durga Temple stala, it is noted that the worship of Devi Durga owes its origin to ShreeRam. In the ‘Ramayana’, as it goes, Rama went to ‘Lanka’ to rescue his abducted wife, Sita, from the grip of Ravana, the king of the Demons in Lanka. Before starting for his battle with Ravana, Rama wanted the blessings of Devi Durga . He came to know that the Goddess would be pleased only if she is worshipped with one hundred ‘NeelKamal’ or blue lotuses. Rama, after travelling the whole world, could gather only ninety nine of them. He finally decided to offer one of his eyes, which resembled blue lotuses. Durga, being pleased with the devotion of Rama, appeared before him and blessed him…

..he correctness of Ramayana is that the story is based on the Ramayana, but does not actually come in the Ramayana text of Valmiki. It is found in various Puranas. When Rama was going to cross the ocean, some texts describe that He performed worship of Durga Devi to inform her of His intentions of invading Lanka. The reason for this is that Durga was the protector of Kuvera’s island of Lanka before it was taken by Ravana. As such, it was proper etiquette for Rama, acting as a human king, to inform Durga Devi that He was about to invade her area of control. In this story, Rama acts as a yajaman, and Brahma acts as a priest who performs the sacrifice to please Durga Devi.

In the sattvika puranas, the story is described that Rama prays to Durga, and Durga replies, “I am your external shadow energy. What ever you wish to do, I am your servant.” This is along the lines of the text “shrishti-sthiti-pralaya-sadhana-shaktir eka chayeva yasya bhuvanani bibharti durga” found in the scriptures. Durga Devi (Maha Maya) is the shadow energy of Lord Narayana.

In the rajasika puranas the story is described differently. When Rama calls to Durga, she refuses to appear. Then Rama pierces his eye with an arrow, and Durga Devi appears crying tears of blood.

Throughout the Puranas and various versions of the Ramayana we find a variation of three types of puja Rama did, either to Shiva, Durga or Brahma. It is likely that the variations are due to yuga-bheda, or the minor differences that occur in different ages. The Rama-lila is performed every Treta-yuga, and as such it has occurred thousands of times with many variations. We do not know from which time period the stories are recorded in each book. Thus there are many seemingly contradictory descriptions in the Puranas. It is described that Jambavan, the vanara devotee of Lord Rama, takes part in each incarnation of Rama in the same body. The cosmic cycles of time are moving like seasons, and these histories are played out in every age on schedule.
http://www.bvashram.org/articles/48/1/Di…

Finally, depending on Valmiki Ramayana, the sage Agastiya suggested Rama is found correct and nowhere it is found Durga worship by Rama. Only sage Agastiya adviced Rama to conquer in the battle field by worshipping the Surya, the sun-god rendering Aditya Hridayam. Rama accepted the sage Agastiya’s advice and worshipped.’

I have posted quite a few posts where Rama is shown to have worshiped Shiva many times.

And his ancestor Bhagiratha brought Ganges to Earth by severe peneance to Lord Shiva.

Based on these texts, Lord Rama worshiped Shiva and Surya.

Citation.

https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110509025104AAULkKN

Bhagiratha Worships Shiva, Stuthi.

https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110509025104AAULkKN

PS.Let me add that Shiva and Vishnu are expressions of the Same Reality Brahman and there is no question of who is Greater.

Though comments are welcome, no comment about sectarian issues will be published.

This site is meant for Sanatana Dharam, the underlying principle being,

All Gods are One, May Every One Be Happy.

Sarvam Krishnaarppanam.

Everything Is Dedicated to Krishna.

Maatha Ca Parvati Devi Pitha Devo Maheswaraha,

Baandhavaa siva Bhalthaascha Swadeso Bhvanathrayam

My Mother is Parvati,

Father, Shiva.

Devotees of Shiva are my relatives and

All the three worlds are Mine

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Hinduism

Working Model Of Vishnu Chakra In Melarasur Lalgudi


There are numerous weapons described in the Mahabharata.

I have posted on various weapons used in the Mahabharata Battle and the Weapons of Mass Destruction(WMD).

Vishnu's Discus.

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These are deadly weapons and so far I have been able get information on them through the epics and other texts in Sanskrit/Tamil literature.

And of course one sees many of these weapons in Hindu Temples either as a weapon in God’s hands or as a sculpture/painting in the Prahara of a temple.

Some of these weapons were called Astras, while the others  were known as Sastras.

The Sastras are conventional weapons which can be used by anyone with proper training as one uses a Gun.

But Astras are different in that they can be used only after initiation from a Guru.

And one is expected to chant a specific Mantra.

Brahmastra, the equivalent of Hydrogen Bomb is an Astra.

There is another category of weapon which can be used both as conventional weapon and as an Astra.

This is the Chakra, (Discus)

Famous Chakra is Vishnus’ Sudharshan Chakra.

Lord Krishna also wields this.

Now a working Model of this has been found in Melarasur,near Lalgudi

The news item explains.(image below)

News on Chakram in the Indian Express.image.

News on Chakram in the Indian Express. Click on the Image To Enlarge.

‘The chakram (Devanāgarī: चक्रं; Panjabi: chakkar; Malay: cakeram) is a throwing weapon from India. It is circular in shape with a sharpened outer edge and ranges in size from approximately 12–30 centimetres (4.7–11.8 in) in diameter. It is also known as chalikar[1]‌ meaning “circle”, and was sometimes referred to in English writings as a “war-quoit”. The chakram is primarily a throwing weapon but can also be used hand-to-hand. A smaller variant called chakri was worn on the wrist. A related weapon is the chakri dang, a bamboo staff with a chakri attached at one end…

Earliest references to the chakram come from the Indian epics Mahabharata and Ramayana where the Sudarshana Chakra is the weapon of the god Vishnu. Chakradhaari (“chakram-wielder,” or simply “circle-man”) is a name for Krishna. The chakram was later used extensively by the Sikhs as recently as the days of Ranjit Singh. It came to be associated with Sikhs because of the Nihang practice of wearing chakram on their arms, around the neck and even tied in tiers on high turbans. The Portuguese chronicler Duarte Barbosa writes (c. 1516) of the chakram being used in the Delhi Sultanate.[2]

The people of the kingdom … are very good fighting men and good knights, armed with many kinds of weapons; they are great bowmen, and very strong men; they have very good lances, swords, daggers, steel maces, and battle-axes, with which they fight; and they have some steel wheels,which they call chakarani, two fingers broad, sharp outside like knives, and without edge inside; and the surface of these is of the size of a small plate. And they carry seven or eight of these each, put on the left arm; and they take one and put it on the finger of the right hand, and make it spin round many times, and so they hurl it at their enemies, and if they hit anyone on the arm or leg or neck, it cuts through all. And with these they carry on much fighting, and are very dexterous with them.

From its native India, variations of the chakram spread to other Asian countries. In Tibet, Malaysia, and Indonesia, the chakram was not flat but torus-like. The Mongol cavalry used a similar throwing weapon with spiked edges.[citation needed]

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Chakram are traditionally made from steel or brass which is beaten into a circular shape against an anvil with an indentation for the curvature. Two ends are connected with a piece of brass and then heated, forming a complete circle before the brass is removed. Some chakram, even those used in combat, were ornately engraved, or inlaid with brass, silver or gold.

The chakram is half an inch to one inch wide and is typically between 5-12 inches in diameter. The smaller variations are known as chakriwhile the larger ones are called vada chakra which were as large as a shield.

Throwing Technic.

The chakram’s combat application is largely dependent on its size. Regular-sized (15+ cm dia.) steel chakram could be thrown 40–60 meters, while brass chakram, due to their better airfoil design, could be thrown in excess of 100 meters.[4] If properly constructed, it should be a perfect circle. Warriors trained by throwing chakram at lengths of green bamboo. In single combat, the chakram could be thrown underarm like a modern Aerobie. In battle, it was usually thrown vertically so as to avoid accidentally hitting an ally on the left or right side. A stack of chakram could be quickly thrown one at a time like shuriken. On elephant or horseback, chakram could be more easily thrown than spears or arrows. Because of its aerodynamic circular shape it is not easily deflected by wind.

The most iconic method of throwing a chakram is tajani, wherein the weapon is twirled on the index finger of an upraised hand and thrown with a timed flick of the wrist. The spin is meant to add power and range to the throw, while also avoiding the risk of cutting oneself on the sharp outer edge. An adept user can twirl the chakram while using another weapon with the other hand. The use of tajani in battle was perfected by the Nihang who employed a particular formation to protect the chakram-wielder from harm. Although variants of the chakram would make their way to neighbouring parts of the region, the tajani technique appears to have remained unique to Indian martial arts.

The smaller chakri could also be worn on the arms or wrists and used like knuckledusters. When worn on the arms the chakri could be used to break or cut the opponent’s arms while grappling. The larger vada chakra were worn around the neck and thrown or dropped down on the opponent vertically. In the turban, it could be raked across an enemy’s face or eyes while fighting.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakram

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