Date Of Buddha 9000 BC?

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Archeological findings unearthed recently in Tamil Nadu  shake up traditional historical dates assigned to many events in India.

The finding of Poompuhar,Kaverippommpattinam,Tamil Nadu on the shores off Tamil date pushes the date of Poompuhar by at least 14,000 years.

In fact this can be as far back by 30,000 years.

The place is called Poompuhar. It lies on southeast India’s Coromandel coast facing the Bay of Bengal between modern Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Its immediate offshore area has been the subject of marine archaeological investigations by India’s National Institute of Oceanography since the 1980’s — and numerous non-controversial finds of man-made structures dated between the third century AD and the third century BC have been made in the “inter-tidal zone” close to shore at depths down to 6 feet (approximately 2 metres).

These finds of structures in shallow water (some so shallow that they are exposed at low tide) have been quite widely written-up in the archaeological literature. But for some reason other discoveries that the NIO has made in deeper water off Poompuhar have attracted no attention at all. Most notably these other discoveries include a second completely separate group of structures fully three miles from the Poompuhar shore in water that is more than 70 feet (23 metres) deep. The lack of interest is surprising because to anyone with even minimal knowledge of post-glacial sea-level rise their depth of submergence is – or should be – highly anomalous. Indeed according to Glenn Milne’s sea-level data the land on which these structures were built last stood above water at the end of the Ice Age more than 11,000 years ago.

Is it a coincidence that there are ancient Tamil flood myths that speak of a great kingdom that once existed in this area called Kumari Kandam that was swallowed up by the sea? Amazingly the myths put a date of 11,600 years ago on these events — the same timeframe given by Plato for the end of Atlantis in another ocean.’

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2017/07/06/tamil-sangam-dates-4140-to-14000-bc/

Silappadikaram refers to Buddhism in detail and the author Ilango Adigal,brother of Chera King,Cheran Chenguttuvan,was a Buddhist monk.

The authorship of Silappatikaram is credited to the pseudonym Ilango Adigal (“Prince-Ascetic”). He is reputed to be the brother of Chera king Senguttuvan, although there is no evidence in the Sangam poetries that the famous king had a brother. There are also claims that Ilango Adigal was a contemporary of Sattanar, the author of Manimekalai..The prologues of each of these books tell us that each were read out to the author of the other [Silappatikaram, pathigam 90]. From comparative studies between Silappatikaram and certain Buddhist and Jain works such as Nyayaprakasa, the date of Silappatikaram has been determined to be around the fifth and the sixth centuries CE’

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram

Manimekalai ,another epic of Tamil is also Buddhist in approach and is believed to have been composed around the same time as that of Silappadikaram.

These texts have been assigned between fifth and sixth century BC.

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Poompuhar remains Tamil Nadu,India.

However,as most of the events narrated in Silappadikaram take place in Poompuhar,called Kaverippommpatinam then,and Poompuhar’s date can be pushed back by 14,000 years at least,Silappatikaram can be dated around the same time.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/poompuhar-find-sets-tamilhinduism-by-atleast-20000-years/

More important is the fact that Silappatikaram refers to Buddhism extensively.

This implies Buddhism,The Buddha should be dated 11,000 years back.

But the current date assigned to Buddha is,

Scholars are hesitant to make unqualified claims about the historical facts of the Buddha’s life. Most accept that he lived, taught and founded a monastic order during the Mahajanapada era during the reign of Bimbisara (c. 558 – c. 491 BCE, or c. 400 BCE’

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

How and Why?

*The archeological finding related here and more dates arrived at based on Archeology makes one ponder over the present dates assigned to ancient history and our present concept of Time and Multiverses.

I have written on these issues under Hinduism,Astronomy,Physics.e

I am aware that the date arrived for Buddha places him before Ramayana.

It is interesting to note that many Buddhist concepts are found in the Bhagavad Gita.

Shall be writing on this.

Featured Image Credit.

http://soulwritings.ca/tag/miracles/page/2/

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Sibi Story of Mahabharata In Japan


Many of us are familiar with the story of King Sibi narrated in Mahabharata.

 

A falcon was chasing a Dove and the Dove sought refuge in Sibi, who was the ancestor of Lord Rama.

 

Sibi is recorded as the ancestor of Chola Kings and the Cholas had the title of Sembiyan.

 

The Tamil name for Sibi was Sembiyan.

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Shatial, Karakoram Highway: Buddhist petroglyphs near road: Sibi-Jataka (body offering: rescue of dove by boddhisattva’s offering of his own flesh to the falcon), stupa, inscriptions in Sogdian, Brahmi, Karoshti; after 4th century CE. Pakistan, Northern Areas

 

As the Dove was the natural food for the Falcon, it demanded that it be given its food.

 

To keep up his word and driven by compassion Sibi cut a portion of thigh equivalent to the weight of the Dove.

 

The scale tilted towards the Dove.

 

King Sibi continued to cut away portions of his body, to match the weight of the Dove.

 

As it was not possible, he sat on the scale himself.

 

It was Indra who came in the form of the Falcon.

 

He blessed Indra that His name will be remembered for compassion.

 

(Mahabharata, Aranya parva, adhyayas 130-131.)

 

The story appears in Japan in two versions.

 

One version is  the same. Only the pronunciations are different.

 

Sibi is pronounced as Shibbi (strong empasis on the h) .

 

The other version is from the Jatakamala.

 

In this story Indira dressed as a blind person approaches King Sibbi requesting for eye-sight. King Sibbi pierces his own eyes and gives them to the blind man asking him to use it to retain his eye-sight.

Japanese Version:-

King Shibi is believed to be a previous incarnation of Shakyamuni Buddha. In this story a heavenly being named Bishamon approaches the God Taishaku and tells him ‘There is a great Bodhisattva named King Shibi. Soon he will become a Buddha.’ On hearing this Taishaku decides to test to test the sincerity of the King’s practice in pursuing enlightenment. He transforms himself into a hawk and instructs Bishamon to take on the appearance of a dove.

Chased after by the hawk, the dove to escapes and flies into the arms of King Shibi. Perched on the branch of a tree, the hawk says to the King, “Please let me have the dove back. It is what I have been trying to get.” King Shibbi replies, “No, I can’t because I have vowed to protect all living things. I cannot return it to you.”

The hawk then points out , “I am one of the living things that you have vowed to save. If you take away my food for today, I will be unable to live tomorrow.”

The King then offers to cut off a piece of his own flesh and gave it to the hawk. As the King proceeded to cut his own flesh, the hawk measures it using a balance and found the dove to be consistently heavier than the muscle of the King. No matter how much muscle was added, the weight was lighter than the total weight of the dove. Finally, the King cuts all the flesh off of his body.

The King tries desperately to put his entire body on the balance, but falls to the ground. He then exclaims, “I once made a pledge to save all living beings! I cannot let such minor sufferings defeat me!”

At last he successfully climbs onto the balance. Watching the entire scene, all the heavenly beings praise the King saying, “He did not begrudge his life, even for a bird. He is a person who best suits the title of Bodhisattva.

Suddenly, Taishaku casts off his disguised figure as a hawk and regains his original appearance.

He says to the King, “Don’t you have any pain or regret?” The King replies, “I have no regrets whatsoever. My heart is rather full of joy.”

No sooner did the King utter these words than did his body change back into what it used to be.

 

Image Credit.

http://defence.pk/threads/pakistans-historic-and-rich-architecture.21058/page-13