Sleeping Saptha Rishis In Tombs Quran?

Understanding History is an arduous task.

Seven Sleepers,Byzantine Tombs.jpg Seven Sleepers,Byzantine Tombs.Saptha Rishis?

One must remember that when we record our present times to Posterity and if they were to read it, how would they understand it, if the posterity emerged after a deluge ,were recovering and were evolving from the primitive to the advanced level of Civilisation?

If their knowledge base is limited they would call all our recorded facts as Myths ,legends or stories born of a vivid imagination.

As and when they advance technologically and culturally, they would understand the events narrated by us as facts, albeit grudgingly, as no one wants to believe that te other one’s superior.

Sene Rishis,Saptha Rishis being rescued by Matsya Avatar of Vishnu.jpg Matsya,Fish rescues the Saptarishi and Manu from the great Deluge. Image credit. “The fish avatara of Vishnu saves Manu during the great deluge” by Ramanarayanadatta astri – http://archive.org/details/mahabharata02ramauoft. Licensed under Public Domain via Commons – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_fish_avatara_of_Vishnu_saves_Manu_during_the_great_deluge.jpg#/media/File:The_fish_avatara_of_Vishnu_saves_Manu_during_the_great_deluge.jpg

Apply the same Logic to our understanding of our past.

We are the same as any one else in this respect.

History is a process of exploration and one tries to understand it with available resources by interpreting them with our knowledge base.

I am trying to piece together such information which has been brushed aside as such by dismissing them as Myths.

But the evidence from archeology, astronomy and other sources force me  not to dismiss such things as Myths.

I have been posting articles on these lines, whether it be,

Tiruvannamalai,India being 3 Billion Years old,

Tirupati 2200 Million Years  old,

Sanatana Dharma spread over the world.

Arabaia was Aravastan,

Mecca and Kaaba were Shiva temple,

Noah is the descendant of Manu,

Vedas ( Rig Veda) were composed in te Arctic,

Krishna’s son built a city in Russia,

Russsia was Sthree Varsha,

There is a Russian version of the Vedas,

and many more.

Now, I had through a series of articles conveyed that Arabia was a part of Hindu Empire,Mecca was a Shiva Temple, Prophet Muhammad’s Uncle composed a Hymn on Lord Shiva, 786 is te Flipped OM,Sapthapathi custom of Vedic marriage was prevalent there and the Kings of Arabia were in the habit of awarding bards like the Tamil Kings…..

Now some ting more.

Hinduism talks of Seven Sages who do not die at the time of deluge.

They are the ones who codify which Dharma is to be followed.

They are Atri ,Bhrigu, Kuthsa, Vasishta, Gautama, Kasyapa and Angirasa.

There are variations to these names.

Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama Maharishi, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja.

The names of the current Saptarshis are: Kashyapa, Atri, Vashista, Vishvamitra, Gautama Maharishi, Jamadagni and Bharadvaja. The Saptarishis keep changing for every Yuga. As per Hindu Shastras, there are four yugas: Krita Yuga / Sat Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara Yuga and Kali Yuga. We are at present in the Kali Yuga, which will last for 432,000 years(we are in 5106 year now in 2015); Dvapara Yuga is twice Kali Yuga, Treta Yuga is thrice Kali Yuga and Krita Yuga is four times Kali Yuga. Over all, 4,320,000 years termed as 1 Chaturyuga. 1000 Chaturyugas make the day of 12 hours for Brahma(Creator) and during another 12 hours, Brahma takes rest and there is no creation during this period. Thus 1 day for Brahma constitutes 1000 Chaturyugas(= 4,320,000,000 years). Thus 1 year constitutes 360 x 4,320,000,000 = 1,555,200,000,000 years; lifespan of Brahma is 100 years = 100 x 1,555,200,000,000 = 155,520,000,000,000 years

At the time of the deluge, The Matsya, Great Fish, ferried them in a boat, while Satyavrata Manu was instructed to meditate.

Manu meditated in the Macarene Plateau in Madagascar,Please read my Post on this.

These Rishis vary for each yuga, aeon.

Saptha Rishis are also found in the Sky, The Great Bear.

The legend of these Rishis are found in Russia as well.

Evidence of seven sleeping men is found in the Koran.


It took many centuries of persecutions, wars and massacres for the polytheistic doctrine of trinity to eventually prevail in the Christian world; sura 18 reinstates the historical responsibilities of the early trinitarian church by taking us back to the dark ages of the beginning of the 2rd century when corrupted Christianity didn’t find any other solution but to kill people to impose the concept of Jesus’ deity.

Mathematical signs hidden behind the story of the companions of the cave.

Sura 18 tells us one of the most profound stories in the history of mankind: The companions of the cave fell asleep for three centuries before God awoke them. How many companions stayed in the cave has remained a historical enigma in the Quran that very few people have been able to solve decisively; I promise that it will be by the end of the article. One of the key questions is why is there so much importance given to their number as such a number could easily seem insignificant in itself? As usual in the Quran, there is a profoundly meaningful symbolical dimension hidden behind their number, and one of the goals of this study will be to decipher it, God willing.

Why did they stay specifically “three hundred years and they add nine”, as the Quran puts it literally? We will explain why such a number is written in such a peculiar manner, and also show that the number of years is deeply related to the correct number of companions who remained in the cave.

The story of the companions of the cave is a multiple meaning sign. The signs will, I believe, strengthen the faith of true believers;

We will first propose to the reader to read attentively the beginning of sura 18; we will then comment in depth the verses following a logical path which will gradually lead to the unraveling what I believe is one of the great secret of the story of the companions of the cave.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful,

(18:1) Glory to God, the one who revealed the Book to His servant, and has not allowed in it any deviousness; (18:2) Straightforward, in order to warn about a terrible punishment that will impart from Him; and give good news to the believers who accomplish good deeds that a generous recompense awaits them,(18:3) In which they shall abide eternally. (18:4) And to warn those who say: “God has ascribed a son to Himself”. (18:5) They do not have in this regard any [sound] knowledge, nor do their forefathers. Grievous is the word that comes out of their mouths! All they say is nothing but a lie. (18:6) And you may torment yourself in grief keeping after their footsteps, if they happen not to believe in this narration. (18:7) Indeed, We have turned everything that there is on Earth into a means by which to embellish it, that we may test which one accomplishes the best deeds. (18:8) And indeed, We will make everything on it a barren land.(18:9) Why else have you thought that the companions of the Cave and Al Raqeem were among Our wondrous signs? (18:10) Once the youths retreated to the Cave, they then implored: “May the inherent mercy of your soul be bestowed upon us; help us conduct our affairs in the right way.” (18:11) We then veiled their ears in the Cave for a specific number of years. (18:12) We then awakened them to reveal which of the two groups best calculated how much time they remained. (18:13) We narrate to you this story with absolute truthfulness. Indeed they were youths who believed in their Lord and We increased their guidance. (18:14)We strengthened their hearts when they stood up and proclaimed: “Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the Earth. We will never invoke beside Him any other god. Assuredly, we would otherwise have uttered an enormity.” (18:15) These people of ours have set up gods beside Him. Why do they not bring forward any clear evidence to support them! And Who could possibly be more wicked than he who invents a lie about God? (18:16) And now that you have dissociated [yourself] from them and what they worship beside God, seek refuge in the Cave: Your Lord will bestow His mercy upon you, and will provide a solution regarding your [current] situation. (18:17) You can see the rising sun declining away from the right of their cave, and once it set, disappearing from them to the left, while they stand inside in the enclosed space. This is [indeed] among God’s signs. He whom Allah guides is rightly guided; but he whom He lets go astray, you cannot find any guardian to lead him on the Right Way. (18:18) And you [would] think that they [were] awake, while they [were] asleep. And We turn[ed] them over to the right, and to the left, their dog stretching his two forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned away from them in haste, as their [sight] would most assuredly have stricken you with terror. (18:19) And similarly, we resurrected them, so they would debate among themselves. One of them took the floor and said (lit. “a speaker among them said”): “How long did you remain [asleep]?”They [who were part of the first group] replied: “We remained [asleep] a day, or part of a day.” They [who were part of the second group] said: “Your Lord knows best how long you remained, so send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city, and let him find out which food is best there, and bring you thereof some provisions; let him be cautious not to attract attention on any of you. (18:20) Indeed, if they happen to find out about you, they will stone you [to death], or revert you to their religion and in that case you will never attain felicity.” (18:21) And this is how We allowed the secret about them to come to light, in order for them to know that God’s promise is the truth, and that there is no doubt in it whatsoever regarding the [advent of the] Hour. When they had an argument with each other about their case, they said: “Build over them an edifice; their Lord has full knowledge about them”. Those who prevailed regarding their case said: “We will surely erect a place of worship (masjid) over them”. (18:22)They will [subsequently] say: “They were three, the fourth being their dog.”, while [others] will say: “Five, the sixth being their dog”, taking a guess about the hidden aspect of things; and they will say: “Seven, the eighth being their dog.” Say: “My Lord knows their number; none knows them except a few”. So do not argue with them except with a decisive argument, and do not seek information regarding them from anyone.(18:23) And do not ever say about anything: “I will certainly do that tomorrow”, (18:24) Except “If God so wills”. And remember your Lord when you forget and say: “May this guidance, O my Lord, draw me nearer”. (18:25) And they remained in their cave for three hundred solar years, and they add nine. (18:26)Say: “God knows best how long they [exactly] stayed (i.e. in addition to 309 years); to Him belongs the hidden aspect of the heavens and the Earth; how clearly He sees through it and hears! No one other than Him can serve as a Protector, and He doesn’t share anything in His judgment.”(18:27) And recite what has been revealed to you from the book of your Lord. Nothing can modify His words; you will find no refuge to protect you other than Him. (18:28) And may your soul be patient with those who call their Lord in the morning and the evening seeking His face, and do not let your eyes turn away from them, seeking the beauties of this worldly life, and do not obey the one whose heart we have made heedless of our remembrance and succumbed to his desires, while his affairs were driven to excess.


References and Citations.

http://www.ummulhasanaat.co.za/my-itikaaf-journey-to-the-forgotten-haram-2012-1433-part-1  Image credit.

http://www.quranaloneislam.net/secret-of-the-7-sleepers Text Credit


Please read this article along with my articles on Mesopotamia, Sumeria.


Kaaba Mecca Is Kabaaleswaran Shiva Rare Image Video

History  would have us believe that the Islamic Middle East has no history at all before the advent of the Prophet.

However the rich culture and other practices of the so-called Nomads, (this is how the Arabians pre dating The Prophet were described), belie these assumptions.

Their concept of Family, Extended Families, Clan kinship, hospitality and valour do not bespeak of Nomadic culture.

Kaaba, a Shiva Temple worshiped Image 1950.image.

Kaaba , Mecca is Shiva, Kaabaliswara Temple

I had written articles on the pre-Islamic Heritage of the present Islamic Middle east, how Vikramaditya’s Kingdom extended to Arabia, His inscriptions are found in Kaaba, Arabia was called Aravasthan,meaning land of Horses, which find reference in Tamil literature as well, the practice of awarding poets being a Tamil Kings practice is found in Ancient Arabia,Ganesha Idol was found in Kuwait,Mecca is a Shiva Temple, 786, considered holy by the Muslims is Flipped OM,Mohammad’s Uncle composed a Hymn in Praise of Lord Shiva,Sapthapathi was practiced in pre-Islamic Arabia and Navagrahas were worshiped.

I have found reference to Kaaba in Mecca being called Kaabaaleswaran,a name of Lord Shiva.

One can find Kabaleswaran Temple in Chennai Tamil Nadu and it is quite popular.

Linga being worsiped in Kaaba.jpg

In Mecca city of Saudi Arabia) the ancient Hindu Shiva Linga may still be seen. This cylindrical stone, rendered immovable for security by being fixed in the outer corner of a wall, is the object of reverence of all Muslims. Here Muslims still continue the seven perambulations in the age old Hindu style except that they move anti-clockwise. White silver foil shrouds the stone. The oval uncovered central portion gives the pilgrims an idea of how the stone looks. Syrians had once carried away the stone as a war trophy and kept it for 22 years.

Linga being worshiped in Kaaba.

The source is a Muslim gentleman.

He had also posted the image of Kaaba of the 50’s.

One can see the Shiva Linga with Avudaiyar clearly.

“The word Kabaa may originate from Tamil and the word Kabaalishwaran. Tamil is considered one of the oldest languages of the world.Dravidian’s worshiped Lord Shiva as their Primal Deity – from the Indus valley civilization. Shiva Temple’s in South India are called as Kabaalishwaran temple’s. Kabaali, therefore – refer to Lord Shiva.

There are many other words in Islam that appear to be connected to Hinduism. For example, in Sanskrit Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The Islamic practice of Bakari Eed (Eid) derives from the Go-(M)edh and Ashva-(M)edh Yagnas or sacrifices of Vedic times. Eed in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eed for festive days, signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure Sanskrit word.  [Note: The word Bakari is an Indian language word for a goat. Muslims sacrifice goats during Eid]

Since Eed means worship and Griha means ‘house’, the Islamic word Idgah signifies a ‘House of worship’ which is the exact Sanskrit connotation of the term. Similarly the word ‘Namaz’ derives from two Sanskrit roots ‘Nama’ and ‘Yajna’ (NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.
Recital of the Namaz (Nama-smaranam in Hindi) five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals.

Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom. The devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during that period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period of special vows and austerities in Hindu tradition. Shabibarat is the corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra.

The Islamic term ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’ derives from the ‘Eed of Piters’ that is worship of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate their ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their remembrance. The very same is the significance of ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’ (worship of forefathers).

In ancient Hinduism the ‘demons’ always return to the world to create havoc, misery and suffering and destroy the good that the sacred people have created. Is Islam this demon of our age, distorting itself as a (false) religion, and create its endless problems for other people in the world?

Image credits.








Reply To Abusive Comments on Castes in Islam Post

I have received a lot of criticism for this Post.

List Of 308 Castes In Islam Indian Muslims

I have approved those which have not used abusive language.I am posting some of the comments below.

One says that I have just provided the information from other sources ‘this article of mine is a poor one , I do not even proof read properly, I have not provided references  from other sources(while one says I have provided information from other sources!), I hate Islam, and I do not have Intellectual honesty.

A very poorly written article. Let alone research or referencing, you haven’t even proofread it. There are many duplicate entries. You seem to confuse cultural groups and lineage with castes. Caste is characterised by hereditary occupations and intermingling, among other characteristics. The image at the start lists out different belief systems within Islam; it is not indicative of social/cultural classes or groups, but theological differences amongst Muslims. Most importantly, there is no sanction for castes in Quran/Hadith unlike other religion’s authoritative and definitve texts.

What you’ve compiled (or, just posted perhaps) and passed off as castes, is in fact –
– a repetitive list; Syed, Sayyid, Sayyed, etc. are merely different spellings. What’s with Pathans of X area and Pathans of Y area? This differentiation is hardly ever identified in reality.
– a list of lineages, i.e. – Syed, for instance, implies that they descend from Ali, the Prophet’s cousin and Pathans are those people whose ancestors were from Af-Pak.
– cultural backgrounds; Konkani, Dakhani (of Deccan), Goan, Gujarati, etc. are not castes. These are cultures, not castes.

All those you’ve listed, will and do, stand shoulder to shoulder in the same mosque and pray to the same God and believe in the same things, with some variations in practice and theory. At the most, there may be about 10-15 different groups that wouldn’t share mosques due to major differences in beliefs, and not social status.

For starters, eliminate the duplicate entries. Check ‘Faqir’, for instance – it appears as the 101st, 189th and 264th ‘caste’, besides a couple of entries without numbers. You’d be surprised to know that anybody can be a ‘faqir’ – it’s a way of life wherein one takes an oath to give up material life. Somewhat like sanyaas.
‘Sayyid’, with the same spelling and no variations, appears at 181, 76 and 33 positions. Then, it appears as ‘Sayyid of Gujarat’ as well.’

As I have said in ‘About, , I am not a professional writer and my job is to provide information and leave the reader to judge.

I have also said that at times I do not even proof read and I have requested people to point out my mistakes.On this count I plead guilty and shall try to improve.

I am aware that there are cultural groups mentioned here under Caste.

My question is would people from one group marry from one with another,?

I know from my Muslim friends in Tamil Nadu, that they do not.

“The image at the start lists out different belief systems within Islam; it is not indicative of social/cultural classes or groups, but theological differences amongst Muslims. Most importantly, there is no sanction for castes in Quran/Hadith unlike other religion’s authoritative and definitve texts”

Islam Unified?

What about Shias and Sunnis and other groups?

Some of them do not even stand the sight of another and kill each other.

Let me mention in the passing that one of my closest friends is a Muslim.

Please read my post Where Are These Muslims?

I am aware that there are e duplicate entries.

I have been waiting for Islamic scholar to correct them and I am yet to find a reader who would.

As to Pathans X and Pathans Y, they seem to identify themselves as such.

The fact is that despite saying Islam is One Religion, One Ummah, Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims are treated as inferior in Islamic countries,Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

Where is the concept of One Religion based on Equality?

Yes , I am providing information  from other sources as I am not the original author in some areas and in such cases I provide information from other sources and give credit to these authors as Sources or Citations.

And I provide my views on the subject

This is a normal practice in a  researched article.

‘At the most, there may be about 10-15 different groups that wouldn’t share mosques due to major differences in beliefs, and not social status.”

Exactly what I am trying to convey.

Whether it is 15 or hundred it not ONE as touted.

And I have not talked about Shia Sunni divide here.

You may read about this in the Link below.


What I am trying to convey is that Islam is not what it is purported to be..Caste-less..

Another comment.

‘Sheer ignorance.. You would have consulted some muslim on the validity of what you are putting. You have every right to love or hate Islam but dont be intellectually dishonest.If 2 diff courts give 2 diff judgements,doesnt mean we have 2 constitutions. Same is wd sch of law.Its just 2 interpretations. Your classification fails at Level 1,

If my statements are not valid and do not pass Level 1, may people correct these with facts.

And I am yet to find any corrections !

Excepting abusing me and ascribing motives.

What is being offered as a correction, only confirms my Post!

As to Intellectual dishonesty, I do not proclaim what I am not.

And try to justify it.


Krishna’s Temple Dome of the Rock Krishna Greek God?

Lord Krishna Playing the Flute.

Lord Krishna Playing the Flute.

I have written a number of articles on the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world.

Sri Lanka,










New Zealand,



South America,

Central America,











You may check my posts for each of these countries.

As I have been attempting to study the references to Sanatana Dharma through various sources, including works in other languages, I have requested Beatrix Laurens, France, (a regular reader of my posts)  to suggest French references.

I am aware that French is the most suited langauge suited for Philosophy, apart from Sanskrit.

I was sure that there are bound to be references.

I was suggested a site and I have been promised more.

As I was going through the site, I chanced upon a Link that threw up interesting information about Lord Krishna.

I shall be writing on Rama Influence, sourced from the site mentioned by my friend a later as I have to study the material in-depth as it makes startling revelations.


I have been able to establish from reliable sources that.

1.Christianity was nothing new and was sourced from elsewhere.

2.There was Sanatana Dharma presence in the middle east.

3.Interesting that The Jews were the descendants of the Yadavas, Lord Krishna’s Clan.

Twenty two tribes left India after the Mahabharata War.

Manu is Noah Yayati Yadava


After the epic battle of Mahabharata, exodus from India began .

Many tribes fled from India towards the North and West.

It has come to light that one of the tribes, Ailahs fled to the middle east and the Arabs called their God as Allah, from the Sanskrit speaking tribes Ailah.

Ailas were a part of Yadavas and Pauravas who took part in the Mahabharata battle.

And this tribe did not stop here.

They proceeded further west.

And landed in Samaria.


5.Sumerian culture’s Link with Sanatana Dharma has been dealt with in detail in my earlier Posts.

6.We have the 786 of Islam being the OM of Hinduism.

7.There was Shiva Temple in Mecca.

8.Also in Jordan, Petro Jordan Shiva temple.

9.The Greeks had a fascination for Krishna and we have many legends of Krishna in Greece and there is enough evidence to suggest that the Greeks worshiped Lord Krishna.

10.Pillars of Hercules are reported to be a Tribute to Lord Krishna.

11.Then we have the Tamil connection to Hitti Empire, Mittani,Incas, Aztecs,Mayas.

12.The ancestors of Celts wereBrahmins.

I shall be writing on the similarities between Sanskrit and Irish Languages

Additional information has come to my notice about the Temple of Solomon( I shall be writing on this later) and about  Krishna in Greece and Krishna was the God of the Greeks.

Dome of The Rock.jpg Dome of The Rock.

Abraham's Tomb.jpg Abraham’s Tomb.

‘In about 1900 BC, hundreds of thousands of native Indians emptied Northern and Central India and fled to the Middle East after Krishna’s Dwarka sank under the water.( I have reservations on the date here)

..*his family together and fled either to the Middle East or to what is now Iraq. Only some gigantic natural disasters, such as earthquakes and floods could have caused such an exodus. It was at this time that the Saraisvati and the Indus changed their proper beds. The Saraisvati dried up…( Possible as Krishna’s son Pradhyumans’ city is in Russia-please refer my post on this)

The word Jerusalem is derived from Sanskrit: Yadu-Ishalayam, meaning “The Holy Rock of the Yadu Tribe.” Lord Krishna was a Yadu. The Moslems still revere this huge rock under the Dome of the Rock on Jerusalem Temple Mount.


Until now, I have been wondering why Krishna’s name did not appear in Jerusalem after his arrival there. Yet, the name of the king of Jerusalem,Melchizedek, the mentor of Abraham, did. I once thought thatMelchizedek was the name of a certain person. I made this mistake by thinking that a prince and a son of a Kassite king, Melik-Sadaksina, was a supernaturally endowed prince, magician and spiritual giant. I thought he had accompanied Krishna, Abraham, and Sarah to the Middle East. Later on, I came to realize that the Sanskrit word Sadhaka applies to anyone who is an adept, a magician, one possessed of supernatural powers gained by worshipping a deity or by uttering magical chants……

‘Krishna and his family probably fled to Iraq. But I’m certain that they went to Jerusalem. The word Jerusalem is derived from Sanskrit: Yadu-Ishalayam, meaning “The Holy Rock of the Yadu Tribe.”

Lord Krishna was a Yadu.

The Moslems still revere this huge rock under the Dome of the Rock on Jerusalem Temple Mount.

(The India We Have Lost,Paramesh Choudhary)

I have additionally shown in this article that the New Testament words for Jesus all refer to Lord Krishna and his holy names. The early Christians were convinced that Melchizedek was just a prior incarnation of Jesus Christ, The remains of the Nag Hammadi manuscript entitled Melchizedekseem to confirm this. Melchizedek, king of Jerusalem and mentor of his son Abraham, was none other than ancient India’s God Krishna. The early Christians thought that Jesus was a reincarnation of Krishna, for who else had the name Yesu Kristna, Isa, Krishna, etc.?”



Many people don’t understand what is meant by Joshua’s remark about “the other side of the flood.” They think he was referring to the Noachide flood. He was referring to the time when God Krishna’s Dwarka and Haran province, in today’s Gujarat, sank under water in about 1900 BC. Abraham, Sarah, and their followers escaped southward, to the coastal ports of Kalyan and Sopara (Sophir or Sauvira), in Maharashthra. From there, they sailed northward to the Middle East. Sarah (Sarsvati) embarked from the port of Kalyan. At one time, Kalyan was located closer to the coast, but is now located more than 50 miles inland. Sarasvati is the patron saint of Kalyan. The patron saint of Sophir or Sauvira was Parasu Rama (possibly a name of our biblical Abraham/Brahma).

And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan… (Joshua 24:2-3.)




Vedic Roots Of Arabia Arabic Proof 1850 BC!

I have written articles on the Vedic roots of Saudi Arabia, Shiva Linga in Mecca, 786 is flipped OM of Hinduism, Prophet Mohammed’s Uncle’s Poem, Siva Stuthi.

Hindu Symbols, Saraswati, Rishi in Arabia.jpg Hindu Symbols, Saraswati, Rishi in Arabia.

I had also written on the presence of Sapthapathi, Sarasvati , Navagrahas in Arabia , pre dating Muhammad .

For the last post, I received comment in Facebook asking me not to be foolish about Islam and went on to trace the geneology of Arabia(!?) from the Koran!

I did not seem it fit to reply to the comment.

This comment made me research further about the Vedic roots of Arabia.

Arabia is from the Sanskrit word Asva, Arava meaning Horse and Sthan, Place.

Arabia is thus the place of Horses.

Ancient Tamil Literature abounds in reference to Arabia as the land of Horses and all the Ancient Tamil Kings, Chera, Chola and Pandyas imported Horses from Arabia.


The major land route  to Arabia was from the North West of India and the Arabic people drew spiritual inspiration from India.

‘The Uttarapath (Northern Highway) was the international highway to the North of India. It was via Uttarapath that Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries drew their spiritual, educational and material sustenance from India.

Besides, this Sea-links were formed with India at least 800 years before the advent of Islam.

Basra was the ancient gateway to India because it was at this port that the Arab lands received Indian goods and visitors.

At that time the spoken language was Sanskrit, which later dwindled into the local variation that we now call Arabic.

Thousands of words that were derived from Sanskrit still survive in Arabic today.


Sanskrit Arabic English
Sagwan Saj Teakwood
Vish Besh Poison
Anusari Ansari Follower
Shishya Sheikh Disciple
Mrityu Mout Death
Pra-Ga-ambar Paigambar One from heaven
Maleen Malaun Dirty or soiled
Aapati Aafat Misfortune
Karpas Kaifas Cotton
Karpur Kafur Camphor
Pramukh Barmak Chief


Even various kinds of swords were referred to as Handuwani, Hindi, Saif-Ul-Hind, Muhannid and Hinduani. The Sanskrit Astronomical treatise Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta in Arabic translation is known as Sind-Hind, while another treatise Khanda-Khadyaka was called Arkand. Mathematics itself was calledHindisa .

The Arabs derived technical guidance in every branch of study such as astronomy, mathematics and physics from India. A noted scholar of history, W.H. Siddiqui notes:

“The Arab civilization grew up intensively
as well as extensively on the riches of
Indian trade and commerce. Nomadic Arab
tribes became partially settled communities
and some of them lived within walled towns practised agriculture and commerce, wroteon wood and stone, feared the gods and honored the kings.”

Some people wrongly believe that Arabs used the word Hindu as a term of contemptuous abuse. Nothing could be further from the truth. The people of pre-Islamic Arabia held Hinduism in great esteem as evidenced from the fact that they would endearingly call their most attractive and favourite daughters as Hinda and Saifi Hindi. The fact that Arabs regarded India as their spiritual and cultural motherland long before the damaging influence of Islam is corroborated by the following poem which mentions each one of the four Vedas by name: (The English translation is in black)

“Aya muwarekal araj yushaiya noha
minar HIND-e
Wa aradakallaha
manyonaifail jikaratun”
“Oh the divine land of HIND (India)
(how) very blessed art thou!
Because thou art the chosen
of God blessed with knowledge”
“Wahalatijali Yatun ainana sahabi
akha-atun jikra Wahajayhi yonajjalur
-rasu minal HINDATUN ”
“That celestial knowledge which like
four lighthouses shone in such
brilliance – through the (utterances of)
Indian sages in fourfold abundance.”
“Yakuloonallaha ya ahal araf alameen
Fattabe-u jikaratul VEDA bukkun
malam yonajjaylatun”
“God enjoins on all humans,
follow with hands down
The path the Vedas with his divine
precept lay down.”
“Wahowa alamus SAMA wal YAJUR
minallahay Tanajeelan
Fa-e-noma ya akhigo mutiabay-an
Yobassheriyona jatun”
“Bursting with (Divine) knowledge
are SAM &YAJUR bestowed on creation,
Hence brothers respect and
follow the Vedas, guides to salvation”
“Wa-isa nain huma RIG ATHAR nasayhin
Wa asant Ala-udan wabowa masha -e-ratun”
“Two others, the Rig and Athar teach us
fraternity, Sheltering under their
lustre dispels darkness till eternity”

This poem was written by Labi-Bin-E- Akhtab-Bin-E-Turfa who lived in Arabia around 1850 B.C.

That was 2300 years before Mohammed!!!

This verse can be found in Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry.

It was compiled in 1742 AD under order of the Turkish Sultan Salim.

That the Vedas were the religious scriptures to which the Arabs owed allegiance as early as 1800 B.C. proves not only the antiquity of the Vedas but also the existence of Indian rule over the entire region from the Indus to the Mediterranean, because it is a fact of history that the religion of the ruler is practised by his subjects.

Vedic culture was very much alive just before the birth of Muhammad.

Again let’s refer to the Sair-Ul-Okul. The following poem was written by JirrhamBintoi who lived 165 years before the prophet Muhammed. It is in praise of India’s great King Vikramaditya who had lived 500 years before Bintoi. (The English translation is in red).

“Itrasshaphai Santul
Bikramatul phehalameen Karimun
Bihillahaya Samiminela
Motakabbenaran Bihillaha
Yubee qaid min howa
Yaphakharu phajgal asari
nahans Osirim Bayjayholeen
Yaha sabdunya Kanateph natephi
bijihalin Atadari Bilala masaurateen
phakef Tasabahu. Kaunni eja majakaralhada
walhada Achimiman, burukan, Kad, Toluho
watastaru Bihillaha yakajibainana
baleykulle amarena
Phaheya jaunabil amaray Bikramatoon”

– (Sair-ul-Okul, Page 315)

“Fortunate are those who were born
during King Vikram’s reign, he was
a noble generous, dutiful ruler devoted
to the welfare of his subjects. But at
that time, We Arabs oblivious of divinity
were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting
& torture were rampant. The darkness of
ignorance had enveloped our country.
Like the lamb struggling for its life
in the cruel jaws of a wolf, we Arabs
were gripped by ignorance. The whole
country was enveloped in a darkness as
intense as on a New moon night. But the
present dawn & pleasant sunshine of
education is the result of the favor of
that noble king Vikram whose benevolence
did not lose sight of us foreigners as we
were. He spread his sacred culture amongst
us and sent scholars from his own land
whose brilliance shone like that of the sun
in our country. These scholars & preceptors
through whose benevolence we were once again
made aware of the presence of god, introduced
to his secret knowledge & put on the road to
truth, had come to our country to initiate us
in that culture & impart education.”

Vedic religion and culture were present in Pre-Islamic Arabia as early as 1850 B.C., and definitely present at the time of Mohammed’s birth.

Vishnu’s Footprints in Mecca and more to follow.