History Of India 1 Ikshvaku To Chandragupta Maurya.

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Most History text books in India begin with Maurya Dynasty and Bimbisara,as if there were no history in india before that period,dismissing them as Legends and hyperbole in the imagination of Poets.

The History conveniently begins prior to Alexander’s invasion of India.

Alexander’s invasion of India is a myth as revealed by Greek historians.

But the real history of India,as revealed by the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana,Mahabharatha,Sanskrit and Tamil literature ,validated by Archeology,foreign literature,especially Greek,Etymological similarities between world languages and Sanskrit and Tamil,Astronomical /Carbon/Infrared dating of artifacts recovered in India and abroad confirm what the Indian texts say.

To understand Indian history,one has to,

Approach Indian texts with open mind,

Verify them with the tools I have mentioned,

Understand that there was no Aryan Invasion,

Sanatana Dharma coexisted with the Tamil culture,which also followedcSanatana Dharma,

There was no North South Divide save the wars between the usual wars between kings,

That the history of India extends to thousands of years,

That the Concept of Time in India is Cyclic and not linear,

There were two major dynasties,Solar and Lunar,Suryavamsa and Chandravamsa and there were many sub dynasties,

The Solar dynasty ,though its ancestor Manu was a Dravidian King,was established in North India,while thexLunar dynasty also flourised in south India,through Ila,Daughter of Manu.

The South Indian  kings trace their ancestry to. Solar ,Ikshvaku Dynasty and also to Lunar dynasty,Chandra vamsa.

The Ikshvahu dynasty frm Treta Yuga ,from million years ago extended upto Dwapara yuga and ended with King Sumitra who was defeated and driven away from Ayodhya.

Then we find continum from that period from Magadha dynasty,which belongs to Lunar Dynasty,Chandravamsa from Bruhatradha.

Lunar, Dynasty,Chandravmsa.image
Lunar dynasty,Chandra vamsa.

‘Barhadradha Dynasty Before the Mahabharata War of 3138 B.C.

1. Barhardradha I :-

According to Mahabharata, Brihadradha-I, the founder of Barhadradha Dynasty was the eldest son of Uparichara Vasu , the seventh in the descent from the Great Kuru, son of Samvarna, a descendant of the Lunar Dynasty (Chandravamsajah) of kings. He founded the kingdom of Magadha probably about 3709 B.C. or 571 years before the Great war of Mahabharata at Kurukshetra between the Pandavas and the Kauravas.

This  battle according to Mahabharata, the important Puranas, and all other ancient Hindu, Bauddha and Jaina authorities and traditions, took place. 36 years before the commencement of the Kaliyuga—the present Yuga.   Kali Yuga  began immediately after the departure of Sri Krishna, son of Vasudeva by Devaki, from this world on the 20th February, 3102 B. C., in the year Pramadhin of the Southern School of Hindu astronomers. (Vide Indian Eras By this author, Kota Venkata Chelam)

Brihadradha married the two beautiful twin daughters of the king of Kasi; and by the blessing of a Rishi, he obtained a most powerful son by name Jarasandha. The king, after installing his mighty son Jarasandha on the throne of Magadha retired into a forest and led an ascetic life. In this context the Mahabharata gave the next prominent dynasty of Jarasandha, leaving some generations of kings in the interval between Brihadradha I and Jarasandha (or Brihadradha II). – (Vide_Mahabharata, Sabha Parva. Adhyayas 14 to 19).

N.B:- The Matsya Purana enumerates all the names of kings between Brihadradha-I and Jarasandha or Brihadradha-II Jarasandha, son of Bhuvana was the 15 th in descent from Kuru and the tenth from Brihadradha-I, the founder of the Magadha Dynasty of kings. The following table shows the order of descent according to Matsya Purana. (Chapter 59):-

1. Samvarna

2. Kuru (The founder of the Kaurava Dynasty who removed his capital from Prayaga to Kurukshetra.)

3. Sudhanvan, Parikshit, Prajana, Jaghnu or Johnu or Yaju

4. Suhotra.

5. Chyavana

6. Krimi (or Kriti)

7. Chaidya or Uparicharavasu or Pratipa

8. (1) Brihadradha-I thefounder of the Magadha Dynasty.(3709 B.C.)

9. (2) Kusaagra

10. (3) Vrishabha or Rishabha.

11· (4) Pushpavat or Punyavat

12. (5) Pushpa or Punya

13. (6) Satyadhrithi or Satyahita.

14. (7) Sudhnvan II or Dhanusha.

15. (8) Sarva

16. (9) Bhuvana or Sambhava.

I7. (10)Brihadradha II or Jarasandha.

http://trueindianhistory-kvchelam.blogspot.in/2009/08/kings-of-magadha-before-great.html )

Visit the above site which is very informative.

‘The Hindu Mahabharata calls Brihadratha the first ruler of Magadha. King Bimbisara of the Haryanka dynasty led an active and expansive policy, conquering Anga in what is now West Bengal.
The death of King Bimbisara was at the hands of his son, Prince Ajatashatru. King Pasenadi, king of neighbouring Kosala and brother-in-law of King Bimbisara, promptly retook the gift of the Kashi province.
Accounts differ slightly as to the cause of King Ajatashatru’s war with the Licchavi, an area north of the river Ganges. It appears that Ajatashatru sent a minister to the area who for three years worked to undermine the unity of the Licchavis. To launch his attack across the Ganges River, Ajatashatru built a fort at the town of Pataliputra. Torn by disagreements the Licchavis fought with Ajatashatru. It took fifteen years for Ajatashatru to defeat them. Jain texts tell how Ajatashatru used two new weapons: a catapult, and a covered chariot with swinging mace that has been compared to a modern tank. Pataliputra began to grow as a center of commerce and became the capital of Magadha after Ajatashatru’s death.’

Haryanka dynasty (c. 600 – 413 BCE)Edit
Bhattiya or

Bimbisara (544-493 BCE)

Ajatashatru (493-461 BCE)

Udayabhadra

Anuruddha

Munda

Nagadasaka
Shishunaga dynasty (413–345 BCE)Edit
Shishunaga (413–395 BCE)

Kakavarna Kalashoka (395–367 BCE)

Mahanandin (367–345 BCE)
Nanda Dynasty (345–321 BCE)Edit
Mahapadma Nanda Ugrasena (from 345 BCE), illegitimate son of Mahanandin, founded the Nanda Empire after inheriting Mahanandin’s empire

Pandhuka

Panghupati

Bhutapala

Rashtrapala

Govishanaka

Dashasidkhaka

Kaivarta

Dhana Nanda (Agrammes, Xandrammes) (until 321 BCE), overthrown by Chandragupta Maurya

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha

From Bimbisara to current day,the History of India is clear and can be studied,though some misinformaion about middlecages remain.

I have traced the Dynasties in Northvand shall write about the Dynasties of South India,including Andhra Ikshvakus and Tamils.

I have taken references to Sanskrit and Tamil among Indian languages as I know only these two.

Related.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/kings-list-india-by-puranas-validated/

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/26/lunar-dynasty-india-chandra-vamsa-of-mahabharata-list/

 

 

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Raghu Rama’s Ancestor Conquered Central Asia China Middle East

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My view that Indian Puranas,Ithihasas,Ramayana,Mahabharatha,Literary works of Kalidasa,Kalhana in Sanskrit and the Tamil Classics of the Sangam Era and later works including the works of Azhwars,the worshipers of Vishnu and Nayanmars,worshipers of Shiva are recorded History of India.

We tend to treat the Puranas and Ithihasas as fiction and figment of imagination and the litereary works as mere hyperbole.

Nothing can be farther from Truth.

Puranas and Ithihasas ,no doubt talk of spirituality but they are also facts.

Similarly the Sanskrit and Tamil literature might contain exquisitely composed allegories,descriptive hyperboles of Kings’achievements and Nature,they also contain facts,geographical and historical.

This is evidenced by a careful reading of these Texts,starting from the Vedas through Ramayana,Mahabharatha,Puranas and Tamil Sangam Classics .

The facts mentioned can be verified against Geological,Historical facts as found in foreign literature and physical verification of Geographical descriptions.

This blog has details of such verified facts and they can be accessed undr Hinduism,Tamils Category.

I have been concentrating on the texts mentioned above save Sanskrit literature.

Now I begin by exploring the Raghuvamsa by Kalidasa,which details the Dynasty of Raghu of Ikshvaku Dynasty.

Lord Rama,who is from Ikshvaku Dynasty,is of such great stature that one does not bither about Rama’s illustrious ancestors,say Dillepa and Raghu.

Raghu was so powerful that Kalidasa named his epic as Raghuvamsa,the Raghu Dynasty.

Kalidasa records that Raghu invaded Cetral Asia and middle east and conquered them

He defeated the Central Asians,the Chinese, the ancestors of the Arabs and White Huns.

Please read my article on Huns.

The warrior Raghu leads a military expedition to Transoxiana. He defeats and subjugates local people along the way (presumably on his march through Central Asia) until he reaches the Vankshu, as the ancient Indians called the Oxus River. There, Raghu’s army battles the Hepthalites, or White Huns, whom the Indians called Hunas and Mlecchas (barbarians). The Hepthalites are defeated, and the Raghuvamsha boasts of “The exploits of Raghu, whose valor expressed itself amongst the husbands of the Huna women, became manifest in the scarlet colour of their cheeks.”

After crossing the Oxus, Raghu and his army encountered the Kambojas, an ancient Indo-Scythian people often mentioned in Indian texts. The Kambojas submitted to Raghu and offered him gifts and treasures. Evidently, the Kambojas dwelt in the vicinity of the Pamirs. Kalidasa describes the preponderance of walnut trees in the Oxus country, this particular region is still known for the cultivation of walnuts…..

Transoxiana (also spelled Transoxania), known in Arabic sources as Mā warāʼ al-Nahr(Arabicما وراء النهر‎‎ Arabic pronunciation: [ˈmaː waˈraːʔ anˈnahr] – ‘what [is] beyond the [Oxus] river’) and in Persian as Farārūd (Persianفرارود‎‎, Persian pronunciation: [fæɾɒːɾuːd]—’beyond the [Amudarya] river’), is the ancient name used for the portion of Central Asiacorresponding approximately with modern-day UzbekistanTajikistan, southern Kyrgyzstan, and southwest Kazakhstan. Geographically, it is the region between the Amu Darya (Ancient GreekΏξος Ốxos) and Syr Darya rivers.[1] The area had been known to the Romans as Transoxania (Land beyond the Oxus), to the Arabs as Mawarannahr (Land Beyond the River), and to the Iranians as Turan, a term used in the Persian national epic Shahnameh…

Hephthalites (or Ephthalites) was the Latinised exonym for a people of Central Asia who were militarily important circa 450-560. They were based in Bactria and expanded east to the Tarim Basin, west to Sogdia and south through Afghanistan to northern India. They were a tribal confederation and included both nomadic and urban, settled communities…

Chinese sources link the Central Asian tribes comprising the Hunas to both the Xiongnu of north east Asia and the Huns who later invaded and settled in Europe.Similarly, Gerald Larson suggests that the Hunas were a TurkicMongolian grouping from Central Asia. The works of Ptolemy (2nd century) are among the first European texts to mention the Huns, followed by the texts by Marcellinus and Priscus. They too suggest that the Huns were an inner Asian people’

Reference and citation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raghuvaṃśa

Image Credit. https://www.google.co.in/search?q=raghuvamsa&client=tablet-android-huawei&prmd=vin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjls4Ghg4TVAhVBq48KHYOeALUQ_AUICigC&biw=1280&bih=800#imgrc=K9mOu81d3RC0LM:

Dravida Lunar Culture Founded By Ila Manu Daughter Ikshvaku Dynasty


Though Sanatana Dharma and the Tamils have mutual respect and lived together, there are some differences.

1. The Worship of Shiva is more pronounced among the Tamils as compared to Vedas.Shiva is not mentioned directly in the Vedas but through Sri Rudram and the name of Shiva is kept in secret in Sri Rudram.There are no special Sukthas for Shiva in the Vedas whereas Shiva was /is considered as the Prime Deity among the Tamils.

Shiva is called the Adi Siddha, the First Siddha and is reported to have founded the Vaasi Yoga, a special Technic of Yoga.

The term Shiva is only a representation of the Vaasi Yoga.The word Vaasi when read  in the reverse or spoken fast becomes Siva.

Shiva’s disciples on Yoga were, among others ,Agastya,Bhoga and Patanjali.

This is from the Tamils.

Kumarikandam
Kumari Kandam ,The Sunken Continent

Sanskrit mentions that Shiva means Auspiciousness and the Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra, though remains the same in essence, is different from Vaasi Yoga.

While Shiva’s activities are limited to His Marriage with Uma and not much is heard of Him in the North Indian Texts, Tamil has a lot of references to Shiva’s Manifestations.

His presence in Madurai is chronicled.

His son Subrahmanya is explained in detail and He, along with Shiva and Sage Agastya are credited to have founded the Tamil Language.

Sage Agastya and Subrahmanya are present in  South East Asian  Cultures the form  as far as New Zealand,Australia,.

Tamil kings were present during the marriages of

Nala and Damayanthi, which predates Ramayana,

Rama Sita ,

Draupadi Swayamvara, and also at

Yudhistra’s Rajasuya Yaga,

Tamil kings participated in the Kurukshetra , Mahabharata War,

Krishna and Arjuna married Pandyan princesses and had children through them,

Balarama visited south and worshiped Subrahmanya called as Murugan in the South…

Lord Krishna attended Tamil Poets’ Conclave,Tamil Sangam…

And Vaivaswatha Manu , ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravida, meditated in Madagascar before migrating to Ayodhya where his son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku Dynasty to which Lord Rama belongs.

It is the Solar Dynasty of India, Suryavansh.

Manu left for the North because of A Tsunami

Tamil is an ancient language of India which runs parallel to Sanskrit.

A Million year old site found near Chennai records an advanced Tamil civilization.

The sunken harbor of Poonpuhar, Tamil Nadu, which is spoken of in detail in the Tamil Epic Cilappadikaram,is dated 20,000 years ago..

Such an old culture refers to Sanskrit and Sanskrit in turn refers to Tamil.

Then there is Sage Agastya who is present both in Tamil and Sanskrit.

So is Sage Valmiki who is considered to be a Siddha and has written poems in Tamil.

Such an intimacy between Sanatana Dharma and Tamuls yet there are differences though they present a unified picture!

This has been a question I have been seeking  an answer to.

The fact that Manu was from the South, Dravida.

  • One has to remember that the landmass in those ancient days was different and it has no relevance to what we call as North or South India now
Jambudweepa,
Jambudweepa, landmass of the Earth as explained in the Puranas. Note the change from present Landmass

Lord Rama refused to fight against the Lemurians while he was fighting the Atlantis people saying that Lemurians were his ancestors,

Ravana,s ancestors Malyavan and Kubera were also from the area we now call as Lemuria

made me check.

Vaivaswatha Manu had a daughter as well.

She was called Ila.

Ila was birth a Man and a woman and he/ she could change genders.

To the skeptics , please check transgender surgeries being performed now

While migrating to Ayodhya, Manu seems to have left his Daughter Ila in the South with a kingdom to rule.

Ila married Budha , son of Moon.

And The Lunar dynasty was born in India.

Ila, daughter of Manu with her husband Budha
Surendrapuri Temple’s Navagraha Temples, Budha with wife Ila.
Chandra vansh
Chandra vansh, Lunar Dynasty. Here one may find Budha, Ila is wife of Budha ) click to enlarge

The Ikshvaku Dynasty to which Lord Rama belongs is the Solar dynasty.

Tamil kings especially the Cholas call themselves as belonging to Solar Dynasty.

So, while Ikshvaku Dynasty prospered in the North as Sanatana Dharma on the banks of Ganges,Sarasvathi and Sindhu, another dynasty founded by the daughter of Manu, Ila prospered in the South, Dravida Desa.

This dynasty seems to have survived the Tsunami by staying at a higher plane near Madagascar which was a part of Lemuria.

Saman was the brother of Ila.

He stayed with his sister Ila in the south.

And also in Mu civilization.

This accounts for both the unity and diversity between Sanatana Dharma and Tamils.

The term Elam, Tamil land seems to have originated from Ila and the descendants of Ila were ruling Elam.

This Elam encompassed a Landmass called Kumarikandam.

There seems to be a controversy a s to whether Lemuria and Kumarikandam are different.

Lemuria and Kumarikandam Verified

Ila (Sanskrit: इल) or Ilā (Sanskrit: इला) is an androgyne in Hindu mythology, known for their sex changes. As a man, he is known as Ila or Sudyumna and as a woman, is called Ilā. Ilā is considered the chief progenitor of the Lunar dynasty of Indian kings – also known as the Ailas (“descendants of Ilā”).

While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

 

In the Vedas, Ilā is praised as Idā (Sanskrit: इडा), goddess of speech, and described as mother of Pururavas.’

(ஈழம் என்று அழைக்கப்பட்ட  மனுவின் மகள் குமரி > ஈழம் என்னும் தமிழ் அரச குமாரி ஆண்டு வந்த. குமரி ஆட்சிசெய்த பகுதிகளை குமரிக்கண்டம் என்று அழைக்கப்பட்டு வந்தது)

குமரிக்கண்டத்தில் இருந்த தென் இந்தியாவின் பழங்குடிகள் பழந்தமிழர்கள் என்பது கருதுகோள். சிலப்பதிகாரம் மற்றும் மணிமேகலை ஆகிய காப்பியங்களில் குமரிக்கண்டம் பின்னர் அழிவுக்குட்பட்தாக கூறப்படுகின்றது பத்தாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பிருந்த [கி.மு.8000] பனி யுகத்தின் போது மாக்கடலில் கடல்நீர் மட்டம் குன்றிக் குமரிக் கண்டம் முழுவதும் புறத்தே தெரியும்படி மேலாக உயர்ந்திருந்தது. தமிழர் தாயக நிலப்பரப்புகளான தமிழ்நாடு, நாகதீவு>( தமிழீழம்) ஆகியவற்றில் வசித்த  தமிழனின் பிறந்தகம். ஆதித் தமிழன் வாழ்ந்த இடம் லெமுரியாக் கண்டம்.கடற்கோள் காரணமாக  லெமுரியாக் கண்டத்தின் பல பகுதிகள் கடலில் மூழ்கின.அதில் எஞ்சிய பன்னிராயிரம் தீவுகளில் ஒன்றே,>கடலில் மூழ்கிய குமரி நிலத்தின் எச்சமே இன்றைய தமிழனின் பிறந்தகம்.மேற்கூறிய சான்றுகளின்படி தற்போதைய இலங்கை தமிழகத்தின் ஒரு பகுதியே என்பதும் அங்கு வசித்தவர்கள் தமிழை தாய்மொழியாக கொண்டவர்கள் என்பதும் தெளிவாகக் புலப்படுகிறது. தமிழ் ஈழம் தமிழினத்தின் பிறப்புரிமை ! 50 ஆயிரம் ஆண்டுக்கால இலக்கிய வரலாறு கொண்ட தமிழே உலகின் முதன் மொழி! குமரிக் கண்டமே தமிழனின் பிறந்தகம். கடலில் மூழ்கிய குமரி நிலத்தின் எச்சமே இன்றைய தமிழீழம், தமிழ்ஈழம்  என்னும் நாகதீவை ஆண்ட மனுவின் மகள் ஈழம் என்னும் தமிழ் அரசகுமாரி ஆட்சி புரிந்த பகுதி> குமரிக் கண்டம் எனப்பட்டதுசிங்களவர்கள் இலங்கைத் தீவின் வந்தேறிகள்.என்பதும் கடலில் மூழ்கிய குமரி நிலத்தின் ஒரு பகுதியே இன்றைய தமிழீழம், என்பதும் தெளிவாகக் புலப்படுகிறது.

மனுசக்கரவர்த்திக்கு ,>சமன்,என்னும் புத்திரனும்,>ஈழம், என்னும புத்திரியும்பிறந்தார்கள். மனுசக்கரவர்த்திக்கு பின் தமிழகம் இந்த இருவராலும் ஆட்சி செய்யப்பட்டு வந்தது. 

தென்னகத்தை மகனாகிய சமனும், அவனது சந்ததியினரும், வடபாகத்தை மகளாகிய ஈழமும் அவளது சந்ததியினரும் ஆண்டு வந்தனர். மனுவின் மகளாகியஈழம் என்பவளுக்கு> குமரி என்று வேறு பெயரும் உண்டு.குமரி என்று அழைக்கப்பட்ட இந்தமனுசக்கரவர்த்தியின் மகள் ஆட்சி புரிந்த பகுதி> குமரிக் கண்டம் எனப்பட்டது. இந்தக் குமரிக் கண்டத்திலேயே  தமிழ்நாடு ,ஈழநாடு, பாண்டி நாடு, சேர நாடு, சோழ நாடு முதலிய நாடுகள் அடங்குகின்றன. ஈழம் என்னும் அரசி அட்சி புரி;ந்த பகுதியே அவளின் பெயரால் ஈழம்நாடு என்று அழைக்கப்பட்டுக் காலக்கிரமத்தில் ஈழநாடு ஆகியது. இந்த நான்கு மண்டலங்களும் ஒரு காலத்தில் ஒரே நிலப்பரப்பாகவே இருந்தன. இடையில் ஏற்பட்ட கடல்கோள்களே ஈழநாடு என்று அழைக்கப்பட்ட ஈழ மண்டலத்தை ஏனைய மூன்று மண்டலங்களிருந்து பிரித்து விட்;டன.எனினும் ஈழமண்டலமாகிய ஈழத்தில் தமிழரே வாழ்ந்து வந்தனர். பிற்காலத்தில்தான் தமிழலரல்லாதோர் இங்கு வந்து குடியேறினர் என்பதனை நாம் மறந்து விடக் கூடாது. வரலாற்றுக்காலத்துக்கு முன்பிருந்தே தமிழர்கள் ஈழத்தில் மிகவும் முன்னேற்றம் அடைந்தவர்களாகவும் நாகரீக வளர்ச்சி பெற்றவர்களுமான ஓர் இனமாக வாழ்ந்து வந்தனர்.

தமிழர்கள் பாரம்பரியமாக வாழ்ந்துவந்த குமரிக் கண்டத்தில் உள்ள ஒரு நகரில் கன்னியாகிய குமரி (ஈழம்) ஆட்சி புரிந்தமையால் அந்நகரம் கன்னியாகுமரி என்று அழைக்கப்பட்டது. இக்கன்னியாகுமரி என்னும் பட்டினம் குமரிகண்டத்துக்குச் சிலகாலம் தலை நகராகி விளங்கியது. பிற்காலத்தில் குமரிக்கண்டத்தின் பெரும் பகுதி கடல் கொள்ளப்பட்டது. இக்கடல் கோல்களினால் நிலப்பரப்பு மாத்திரமன்றிப் பல தமிழ் சங்க மண்டபங்கள், அவைகளில் இருந்த இலக்கண இலக்கிய நூல்கள் எல்லாம் சமுத்திரத்துள் ஆழ்ந்து விட்டது, சமன் ஆண்ட பிரதேசமும் கடலுள் அமிழ்ந்தி விட்டது.மிகுதியான நிலப்பரப்பு பாரத கண்டம் பல தேசங்களாக பிரிந்தது.

  • Some gaps in the history remain.I am researching.People may contribute with authentic Links

 

Reference and citations.

http://m.ilavamcam.webnode.com/%E0%AE%88%E0%AE%B4%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%92%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%954/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

Budha with Ila Image credit.

By SurendrapuriNavagraha.jpg: Arkrishnaderivative work: Redtigerxyz (talk) – SurendrapuriNavagraha.jpg, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8306583

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/12/26/lunar-dynasty-india-chandra-vamsa-of-mahabharata-list/

Two Tamil Empires In India Northwest, South India? Missing History


I have written articles in detail about the Kings of India, as listed in the Puranas and other Sanskrit texts of India.

Kings List of India by Puranas Vaidated

I have also listed the Kings List of Tamil from 400 BC 

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Lord Krishna married a Pandyan Princess and had a daughter whom he married her off to a Pandyan Prince.

Arjuna married a Pandyan Princess from Manalur Tamil Nadu and had a son.

Tamil Chera King Perunchotru Udiyan Neduncheralathan fed both Pandava and Kaurava army during the Mahabharata Battle..

Sahadeva and Balarama  were on a Pilgrimage to South and Balarama worshiped Lord Subrahmanya in Tamil Nadu.

Parashurama established the present Kerala.

One issue intrigued me.

We had the Mahabharata War, there was a deluge later and Dwaraka was submerged.

Sage Agastya took families from Dwaraka and had them settled in what is now Karnataka and those who had settled in Tamil Nadu were called ‘Velirs’ and they had small Kingdoms in places like what is now called Krishnagiri and Dharmapuri.They took sides between the Cheras, Cholas and Pandyas depending on the exigencies.

Kanndigas from Yadava Tribe

This would imply, at the time of the Tsunami which devoured Dwaraka, these people were moved by Agastya to South.

The same Tsunami, called as ‘kadalkol’ in Tamil devoured the South as well.

This Tsunami, incidentally is the third to strike the South, according to Tamil Literature and this is validated by foreign Flood legends and archaeology..

Now the issue is if people were moved from Dwaraka and settled in Tamil Nadu, it should have been after the Tsunami died down.

Then what happened to the Tamils living in the south during the period just before the Tsunami?

Where did they go?

The references to Tamil kings are found in the Ramayana which mention them as belonging to earlier period than Rama.

To be specific Tamil Kings were present in Damayanti Swayamvara.

There is Nala Theertha, a sacred pond where people take bath to be rid of Saturn, Shani’s influence, like Sade Saathi,seven and a half years.

The pond is in Thirunallar, Pondicherry and is famous for Shani temple.

Shiva worship preceded  in south even  before Vedic Period.

While Subrahmanya and  Shiva merit only a limited mention in the Vedas, they are the principle Deities in the Dravida Desa.

And there was a Tamil Kingdom, Elamite, now the term has become corrupted to be Elam.

The Elamite people lived around the present Iran and spoke a Language which has been traced to Tamil.

And some tribes in Iran speak this language which resembles Tamil even today!

The Tamils were referred to as Dramila in Vedic texts.

The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)

(Extracts from ‘The Original Indians — An Enquiry’ by Dr. A. Desai)

How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asi Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili. Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.

South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: “Then follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€

Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.’ https://2ndlook.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/dravidian-history-no-one-talks-about/

Later texts speak of them as Dravida?

Sibi ruled from Pakistan

Not to forget the fact that Vaivaswatha Manu , ancestor of Rama lived in the south and moved to Ayodhya after the Tsunami.Please read my article   on this.

Is there a subtle message here?

Yes,

This accounts for the missing chapters in Tamil and  Bharatvarsha History and this would reconcile the seeming inconsistencies in Indian History.

Detailed article follows

 

Rama’s Genealogy Confirmed Palaeo- Anthropology Genome Study


Sage Vashista explains the Genealogy of Rama to King Janaka at the time of Rama Sita wedding.

Lord Rama's Coronation.jp
Rama Pattabishekam

It is a Hindu Ritual mandated in a Vedic marriage.

It is called Pravara.

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Genealogy of Lord Rama.

I had published articles on the Pravara of Rama and the list of Kings, Ikshvaku Dynasty to which Lord Rama belongs.

Thereupon, VasishTa, the Kula guru of Raghu kula started narrating the details of Gotra, Pravara etc. of Sri Rama:

Yajur vEDa Saakhaa adhyaayinE, VaasishTa, MaitraavruNa KouNDinya trayaarishEya Prvaraanvita, VasishTa

 

GotrOdbhavaaya, Tribhuvanaadheesaaya, AkhilaaNDa kOti BrahmaaNDa naayakaaya, Tattva ateetaaya, Sat chit Ananda

moortayE, Soorya Vamsa Paavanaaya, Akhila jagad aananda kaarakkaya, Ksheeraabdi VaasinE, SaraNaagata vatsalaaya,

Kousalyaananda Vardhanaaya, ThaTakaa ThaaTakEyaantakaaya, Sree Paada rENu paalita Goutama kaLatraaya, Parama

Bhaagavata architaaya, khaNDeekrita tripura chaapaaya, Saadu jana nivaasa vrukshaaya, LakshmaNa agrajaaya, Sreevatsa

 

 Koustuba  haara - kanaka kEyooraadi DivyaabharaNa bhooshitaaya, Vaijayantee Vanamaala sObitaaya, Ikshvaaku Vamsa

 

Udbhavaaya, Naabhaaga VarmaNa: naphtrE, Aja Mahaaraaja VarmaNa: poutraaya, Dasaratha Mahaaraaja VarmaNa: putraaya,

 

Sree Raamachandra VarmaNE Saakshaat NaaraayaNa svaroopaaya varaaya?"

Now Palaeo-anthropology has found amazing, correlation of this genealogy with the genetic profile of humans settled in north, south, east and west of India since the Holocene (about 11000 years BP) to the present. Almost all the important studies in palaeo- anthropology, including those carried out by Kenneth A. R. Kennedy and Cavalli-Sfroza, have concluded that genetic profile of people of the Indian subcontinent has remained the same for last more than 55000 years and that for last 11000 years this profile is of culturally developing people who had started speaking a structured language and were taking cooked food. .”

“A very interesting study was recently conducted by Dr. Gyaneshwar Chaubey of Estonian Biocentre. He scanned genepool of three most ancient tribes mentioned in Ramayana, i.e. Kol (e.g. Guh nishad), Bhil (e.g. Bhilni) and Gond, and compared the results with their neighboring populations and other world populations. It was concluded that the genepool of these tribes was primarily founded over indigenous component, having continuity for last over ten thousand years.’

 

“In the Indian context, we are now familiar with the work of U.S anthropologists Kenneth Kennedy, John Lukacs and Brian Hemphill.3 Their chief conclusion, as far as the Aryan debate is concerned, is that there is no trace of “demographic disruption” in the North-West of the subcontinent between 4500 and 800 BCE; this negates the possibility of any massive intrusion, by so-called Indo-Aryans or other populations, during that period.

Die-hard proponents of such an invasion / migration have therefore been compelled to downscale it to a “trickle-in” infiltration,4 limited enough to have left no physical trace, although they are at pains to explain how a “trickle” was able to radically alter India’s linguistic and cultural landscape when much more massive invasions of the historical period failed to do so.5 Other proponents still insist that “the Indo-Aryan immigrants seem to have been numerous and strong enough to continue and disseminate much of their culture,”6 but do not explain how the “immigrants” failed to leave any trace in the anthropological record.

Citation.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/06/12/pravara-lineage-of-rama-sita-recited-sita-rama-kalyana/

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/lord-ramas-dynasty-ancestors-descendants-list/

http://www.vifindia.org/transcriptions-paper/2012/07/03/scientific-dating-of-ancient-events-from-7000-bc-to-2000-bc

 

http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/genetics-aryan-debate