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Jesus Christ Killed Had Bad Temper Apocrypha Bible


One of the problems, which those who design a Religious text, do not realize that, whatever be the presentation and promotion , Truth will surface.

Especially so, if the Religious text is selected from about 300 versions and only that which suited the Political expediency is accepted.

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Lost Books of The Bible.

The danger is that there are chances that the rejected material shall also come through.

This, being of the same origin as that of the accepted Text will carry the same force as the one accepted.

I am talking about the Bible, which was compiled by a Conclave of Cardinals and only that which suited the political necessities of Empire Constantine was accepted as the Religious text.

There were more than 300 versions reported to have been considered by the conclave of the Cardinals.

Now there are those versions of the Bible that have become available that speak differently of Jesus and His Character.

These Books are called the Lost Books of the Bible, Apocrypha Bible.

Some of the material found in these books are very uncomfortable for a Religion which says it the most Compassionate and Jesus  was a Prince of Peace.

 

No question, the kid portrayed in the “The Lost Books of the Bible” isn’t exactly the Prince of Peace. After recounting three murders in two pages, one passage concludes, “Then said Joseph to St. Mary, henceforth we will not allow him to go out of the house; for everyone who displeases him is killed.”

The “lost books” are part of the apocrypha, quasibiblical works not included in the official Bible. There are several dozen of these, dating from both Old and New Testament eras and exhibiting considerable variety in length, completeness, and credibility. A few of these were considered inspired in some corners of the early church but were ultimately excluded from the formal canon for one reason or another; the remainder, which account for the bulk of the material, have always been regarded as spurious by the mainstream church and include works condemned as heretical or fraudulent…

In 1820 a number of the apocryphal books were compiled into a sort of alternative Bible called the Apocryphal New Testament. This was republished in 1926 as The Lost Books of the Bible and reprinted in 1979; the last version is what you saw. The 1820 book in turn was an aggregation of two English translations published in 1736 and 1737. The original works were a serious attempt to advance bible study, but the subsequent publications, arguably in 1820 and certainly from 1926 onward, were an attempt to sell books by creating scandal.

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The homicidal-Jesus stories come from something known as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. (This is to be distinguished from the better-known but equally apocryphal Gospel According to Thomas, about which more below.) Several versions of the Infancy Gospel have come to light, dating back to about the sixth century AD; all are copies of earlier texts.

As near as scholars can make out, the Thomas story originated in the mid-second century AD, subsequent to the four canonical gospels (that is, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Some say it was based in part on Luke; the two books share the story of Jesus scourging the money lenders at the Temple. It is one of the few portrayals, spurious or not, of Jesus’s early life, which no doubt accounts for its continued circulation after eighteen hundred years…

Gospel According to Thomas, a collection of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus discovered in Egypt in 1945. It is taken more seriously than the Infancy Gospel and while not as outrageous is equally troubling in its way. It ends, “Simon Peter said to them, ‘Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life.’ Jesus said, ‘I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven.’”

Old Testament orders to Kill.

 

Zephaniah 2:12-15

“You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword,” says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great capital, Nineveh, a desolate wasteland, parched like a desert. The city that once was so proud will become a pasture for sheep and cattle. All sorts of wild animals will settle there. Owls of many kinds will live among the ruins of its palaces, hooting from the gaping windows. Rubble will block all the doorways, and the cedar paneling will lie open to the wind and weather. This is the fate of that boisterous city, once so secure. “In all the world there is no city as great as I,” it boasted. But now, look how it has become an utter ruin, a place where animals live! Everyone passing that way will laugh in derision or shake a defiant fist

 

Ezekiel 9:5-7

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.”

 

Matthew henry’s Biblical commentary writes this on Ezekial 9:5-7 :

 

. A command given to the destroyers to do execution according to their commission. They stood by the brazen altar, waiting for orders; and orders are here given them to cut off and destroy all that were either guilty of, or accessory to, the abominations of Jerusalem, and that did not sigh and cry for them. Note, When God has gathered his wheat into his garner nothing remains but to burn up the chaff, Matthew3:12 http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=mt+3:12&t=kjv.

 

  1. They are ordered to destroy all, (1.) Without exception. They must go through the city, and smite; they must slay utterly, slay to destruction, give them their death’s wound. They must make no distinction of age or sex, but cut off old and young; neither the beauty of the virgins, nor the innocency of the babes, shall secure them. This was fulfilled in the death of multitudes by famine and pestilence, especially by the sword of the Chaldeans, as far as the military execution went. Sometimes even such bloody work as this has been God’s work. But what an evil thing is sin, then, which provokes the God of infinite mercy to such severity! (2.) Without compassion: “Let not your eye spare, neither have you pity (Ezekiel 9:5 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:5&t=kjv&gt; ); you must not save any whom God has doomed to destruction, as Saul did Agag and the Amalekites, for that is doing the work of God deceitfully, Jeremiah 48:10 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=jer+48:10&t=kjv&gt; . None need to be more merciful than God is; and he had said (Ezekiel 8:18 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+8:18&t=kjv&gt; ), My eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity.” Note, Those that live in sin, and hate to be reformed, will perish in sin, and deserve not to be pitied; for they might easily have prevented the ruin, and would not.

 

  1. They are warned not to do the least hurt to those that were marked for salvation: “Come not near any man upon whom is the mark; do not so much as threaten or frighten any of them; it is promised them that there shall no evil come nigh them, and therefore you must keep at a distance from them.” The king of Babylon gave particular orders that Jeremiah should be protected. Baruch and Ebed-melech were secured, and, it is likely, others of Jeremiah’s friends, for his sake. God had promised that it should go well with his remnant and they should be well treated (Jeremiah 15:11 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=jer+15:11&t=kjv&gt; ); and we have reason to think that none of the mourning praying remnant fell by the sword of the Chaldeans, but that God found out some way or other to secure them all, as, in the last destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, the Christians were all secured in a city called Pella, and none of them perished with the unbelieving Jews. Note, None of those shall be lost whom God has marked for life and salvation; for the foundation of God stands sure.

Some of the Lost Books.

 

  • Biblical Corruption?

  • The Acts of The Apostle Thomas
  • The Apocalypse of Peter
  • The Apocalypse of Paul
  • The Book of Enoch
  • Eugnostos the Blessed
  • The Book of James – Protevangelium
  • The Book of Jubilees
  • The Dialogue of the Saviour
  • The Didache: Teachings of the 12 Apostles
  • The Epistle of Barnabas
  • The Epistle to the Laodiceans
  • The Essenes and The Dead Sea Scrolls
  • The Essene Gospel of Peace
  • The Essene Book of Revelation
  • The Forgotten Books of Eden: First and Second Book of Adam and Eve:
  • The Gospel of the Egyptians
  • The Gospel of Mary Magdalene.
  • The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary
  • The Gospel of Nicodemus
  • The Gospel of The Perfect Life / Holy (12) Twelve
  • The Gospel of Philip
  • The Gospel of Thomas
  • The Gospel of Truth
  • The Heavenly Prince Melchizedek
  • The Lost Gospel of Peter
  • The Sophia (Wisdom) of Jesus
  • The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel
  • The Lost Years of Jesus
  • The Testament of Abraham
  • The Treatise on the Resurrection

 

Citation and References.

http://thefrt.com/what-are-the-lost-books-of-the-bible-did-jesus-kill-2-boys-a-schoolmaster-because-they-displeased-him/#

http://answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/another_bible_myth.htm

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Jesus ‘mentally ill suffered from paranoia’ Bible Not Historic Study


I chanced upon this.

I thought about skipping it.

But the names associated with it included A. Schweitzer.

Worth reading.

That the Bible was concocted is a fact, that it was compiled by Emperor Constantine to suit his political ambition is true.

As to Christ, I doubt he existed,

Please read my post on this.

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Dead Christ supported_by the madonna and saint John pieta

Even those who deny that Jesus existed – and I am one of them – must agree that whether the gospels are true or not they don’t give us any confidence in the sanity of Jesus Christ.  Even if Jesus didn’t exist the gospels could have been based on stories about eccentrics and fairly obscure prophets of the time who did exist. 

 

If we can prove that the Jesus Christ in them was mad then that is all we need to destroy Christianity.  It would mean that the apostles he chose and the Church he founded were all very silly people indeed.  It would mean that we have to be on guard against any other religious movement because if Christianity was founded on the ravings of a madman and was such a success any other religion could have been the same.

 

We can be sure that there is no evidence for Jesus’ sanity and plenty of evidence against it.

 

You will see plenty of Christian books written in defence of the faith that deny that Jesus was mentally ill and claim that he was the sanest person that ever lived.

 

It is possible that Jesus was a manic-depressive.  He said he was the light of the world (John 9:5) and the only way to God (John 14:6) and the unique Son of God (John 17).  That is the sign of severe mania.  He was unnaturally full of himself.  Even if it were true, we would expect him to let others say he was this great being instead of him trying to convince him.  If he really had the power to influence people through using the Holy Spirit he did not need to make such declarations.”

 

The following information is worth thinking about as it throws quite a few questions about Bible and Jesus.

This study was published in Dutch as: Jezus de Messias. Was het christendom een vergissing ? Antwerpen, EPO, and as:Toen God sliep schreef de mens de Bijbel. De bijbel belicht door een psycholoog. Antwerpen, Facet.

Summary.

This psychopathological study of the Gospel resulted in a revolutionary view on the personality of Jesus and his life, the sources of his spirituality and ideas. The hypothesis of paraphreny was able to explain a number of otherwise unexplained events. Did Jesus survive the crucifixion ? Is the Apocalypse the first Christian document, earlier than the letters of Paul ? Was the resurrection a myth? These questions find an answer in this study.

 

About 1910 three competent psychiatrists: Ch. Binet-Sangle, G.L.De Loosten (G. Lomer) and W. Hirsch concluded after thorough examination of the texts, that Jesus was mentally ill and suffered from paranoia. They were criticised by A. Schweitzer who alleged that from an historical point of view most texts were dubious or certainly not historic, e.g. the quotations from the Gospel of St. John, and from a medical point of view that the alleged symptoms of paranoia or another mental disease were misunderstood.
Three objections seemed essential: first: there is no certainty about the historical truth of the texts, secondly: what seems to us like a symptom was possibly a normal trait, a cultural feature in that civilisation, thirdly: there are not enough sure elements in order to found on them a safe judgment.

If witnesses describe in a text correctly (according to modern psychopathology) a number of elements (symptoms) and if these symptoms are coherent and can be identified with a known syndrome, while these witnesses ignored completely psychopathology and moreover intended to prove a very different interpretation of the facts (a faulty one), there can be no more doubt about the authenticity of the described facts.

The decision consequently about the historicity of the facts will no more depend upon mere philological criteria, but also upon psychopathological ones. Schweitzer supposes incorrectly, that the philological criteria are the only ones that can decide about historicity; in fact: the psychopathological control is more efficient and safe. So the first objection of Schweitzer is eliminated.

The second objection of Schweitzer, that symptoms may be misunderstood cultural features, is at least superficial. It is very clear that the true pathological nature of the observed symptoms is culture-independent, although they may be coloured by the cultural background. Unadapted and strange behaviour as it is seen by extraneous observers, is on account of this fact itself matched against the own cultural background of the observers, but if this background is identical with the background of the subject no cultural interference exists any more. Therefore it is important to study the reaction of the own cultural milieu of the subject…

In the Gospel of Mark a child is described, possessed by the devil. The features, found in the text, are all coherent with the syndrome of epilepsy and especially with an infantile type: perinatal infection of the ear with inflammatory complications, causing thrombo-phlebitis in the brain with the consequence of epileptic seizures and deaf-muteness. In the text of Mark all symptoms are precisely described: the child is mute, falls in the water and the fire (loss of conscience), utters a cry and is agitated, has foam on his mouth, becomes like dead and after a while is “cured”.
2000 years ago nobody was aware of the true nature of epilepsy and the typical features in young children. (Hippocrates described the epilepsy as a disease, but we can consider that this was largely ignored in Judaea.)
In the Bible numerous texts mention the hearing of voices, especially the voice of God. Current exegesis (Kittel, Theologisches Woerterbuch des Neuen Testaments, s.v. “Phone”) interbreeds these texts as metaphorical: hearing the voice of God is simply the expression for a vocation by God. However in psychopathology “hear a voice” is a current expression for an auditive (sensory) hallucination. Often the voice heard is identified as the voice of God. So the question is, if the voices heard by Jesus ( Baptism, desert, Thabor) were hallucinatory ones as even Schweitzer suggests.
The narrative of the baptism of Jesus shows a text-evolution. In the Gospel: as Mark says that Jesus saw the Heaven opened, Matthew says that the heaven opened and that Jesus saw a bird… Luke lays a heavy accent on the physical appearance of a dove and eliminates any allusion to a vision, John adds the testimony of John the Baptist, the latter saw the ghost… The text-evolution seems to intend to change a subjective vision into an objective happening. Of course Mark has always the most original version: Jesus saw the heaven opened, he saw a bird, he heard a voice. This is the evidence, if one considers the complete narrative of Jesus baptism and his stay in the desert. Psychopathological investigation discovers in Mark, Luke and Matthew, regardless of the fact that especially Luke adapted the original version, a number of well-known symptoms of an hallucinatory state: hearing the voices of God and the devil, seeing wild beasts (zoopsie), having the impression to fly (vestibular hallucination), having visions of the whole world, suffering from anorexia (fasting). In that light the vision of the Baptism also is certainly another manifestation of this hallucinatory state: a well-localised (heavenly) vision, seeing a light (opening of heaven) , of a bird, the hearing of a voice, communicating a grandiose genetic message (you are my beloved son), a voice speaking in the second person as hallucinatory voices often do.
Date Contradcition about the date of birth of Jesus
It is important to see the essential difference between the Gospel of Infancy and the baptism-Thabor episode. Most biblical students see the Gospel of Infancy as a mythical corpus in the New Testament and they mention numerous reasons. First there are the chronological contradictory data. According to Matthew Jesus should be born (between 6 and 4 B.C.) during the reign of the great Herod, who died in 4 B.C.; the census which according to Luke, obliged the parents to travel to Bethlehem, was executed by Quirinius, who according to the precise indications of Flavius Josephus, the Jewish historian, became procurator of Syria in 7 A.D.., i.e. 11 to 12 years later. Furthermore the beginning of Jesus public life, when he was about thirty years, is situated by Luke (3,1) in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius (1 October 27-30 September 28). According to that indication Jesus should be born in 4-3 B.C . The historians never solved these difficulties.
Secondly: the divergence between Matthew and Luke is striking. For Luke an angel appears to Mary and to Elizabeth. For Matthew each event is predicted in the Old Testament; for Luke the quotations of the O.T. are replaced by occasional prophecies by Hannah and Simeon. For Matthew a star appears, magicians come, there is a flight to Egypt and a killing of innocents by the great Herod. For Luke there are only shepherds, angels and music, the circumcision in the Temple and a simple return to Nazareth. He does not mention Egypt, or the Innocents. In the Protevangelium Jacobi another series of divergent elements can be found. Herod kills Zechariah, while John is sought for; there is no star, no magicians, no prophecies, only the angels and their message to Mary and to Elizabeth.
Thirdly: the only elements, which all witnesses have in common are: 1° the exceptional pregnancy of Mary, 2° the hesitation of Joseph, 3° the birth of Jesus, 4° the  exceptional sphere of wonders. Each witness surrounds these historical events with a scenery of marvellous elements of his own…
As has been said, if all symptoms coherently are in accordance with a well-known syndrome, there can be no more doubt about the historical truth of the described facts because it was impossible in Hebrew antiquity to describe accurately and correctly what twenty centuries later became known as a mental disease without having observed it. The fact that can be shown is that in the Gospel an image is found of Jesus, which is entirely coherent with the syndrome of paraphrenia, and that it is quite sure that this was not the intention of the authors of the Gospel. Nothing specifically divine or even superior is noted. Paraphrenia has to be understood as a mental disease sometimes also classified in the category of paranoia and opposed to schizophrenia. In opposition to the schizophrenic the paraphrenic remains adapted to his milieu, has a coherent thinking and a well-organised behaviour. Generally hallucinations are rare, but initiate a delusional state, often with a grandiose genetic theme. The paraphrenic is very sensitive to the opposition against his ideas: he is often full of resentment and hate. This is exactly the image the Gospel has painted of Jesus. If miracles are the only argument for the supposed divinity of Jesus, one must take into account that a number of these are certainly pseudo-miracles (cf. the epileptic child ‘(Mc. 9) or the possessed of Gerasa (Mc. 5)).
Citation from the research Papers.
* This Post is to present diverse views.I have posted artciles on Objectiobale material in Hinduism,Islam as well.
So do not conclude this is Christianity bashing.
Contradicting views with research welcome.
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Evidence Jesus Christ Did Not Exist


I posted articles on how the Bible was complied by Constantine through a Conclave of Cardinals to hold on to his empire.

I had also written, albeit, in the passing that Jesus Christ did not exist.

That we still do not know his real name even to-day.

Here let us see how the story of Jesus was built.

Compare this with Lord Rama and Krishna, the Hindu Gods, whose dates and existence has been proved beyond doubt.

This article is dedicated to the Secular Historians, who call Indian history as revealed in the Puranas and Ithihasas to be fantasies and not supported by facts.

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Jesus Christ.

“Most antiquities scholars think that the New Testament gospels are “mythologized history.” In other words, they think that around the start of the first century a controversial Jewish rabbi named Yeshua ben Yosef gathered a following and his life and teachings provided the seed that grew into Christianity.

At the same time, these scholars acknowledge that many Bible stories like the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, and women at the tomb borrow and rework mythic themes that were common in the Ancient Near East, much the way that screenwriters base new movies on old familiar tropes or plot elements. In this view, a “historical Jesus” became mythologized.

For over 200 years, a wide-ranging array of theologians and historians—most of them Christian—analyzed ancient texts, both those that made it into the Bible and those that didn’t, in attempts to excavate the man behind the myth. Several current or recent bestsellers take this approach, distilling the scholarship for a popular audience. Familiar titles include Zealot by Reza Aslan and How Jesus Became God by Bart Ehrman
No first century secular evidence whatsoever exists to support the actuality of Yeshua ben Yosef. 
The earliest New Testament writers seem ignorant of the details of Jesus’ life, which become more crystalized in later texts. Paul seems unaware of any virgin birth, for example. No wise men, no star in the east, no miracles. Historians have long puzzled over the “Silence of Paul” on the most basic biographical facts and teachings of Jesus. Paul fails to cite Jesus’ authority precisely when it would make his case. What’s more, he never calls the twelve apostles Jesus’ disciples; in fact, he never says Jesus HAD disciples –or a ministry, or did miracles, or gave teachings.
3.Even the New Testament stories don’t claim to be first-hand accounts. We now know that the four gospels were assigned the names of the apostles Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, not written by them.
4.The gospels, our only accounts of a historical Jesus, contradict each other.
5.Modern scholars who claim to have uncovered the real historical Jesus depict wildly different persons. They include a cynic philosopher, charismatic Hasid, liberal Pharisee, conservative rabbi, Zealot revolutionary, non-violent pacifist to borrow from a much longer list assembled by Price. In his words (pp. 15-16), “The historical Jesus (if there was one) might well have been a messianic king, or a progressive Pharisee, or a Galilean shaman, or a magus, or a Hellenistic sage. But he cannot very well have been all of them at the same time.” John Dominic Crossan of the Jesus Seminar grumbles that “the stunning diversity is an academic embarrassment….”

How the sorty of Jesus Christ was fabricated follows.

Citation.

https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/2014/12/25/five-reasons-to-suspect-that-jesus-never-existed-valerie-tarico/

 

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Where Is The Reference To The Bible


India and Hinsuim is pilloried for its tardiness in maintaing its History.

 

There  are no historical references, no continuity in Indian History nor any official crdible History.

 

This is the view among most of the Indians, that most of Indian History is a fable.

 

The west is not far from holding this view.

 

Is this a Fact?

 

Let us look at some facts.

 

1.References of Hindu Epics and The Veda are found in the literature that existed in the corresponding period where/when they came  into existence.

 

I have not used the term written as the Vedas, it is believed were not written and they were transmitted orally over Five Thousand Years.

 

 

The Mahabharata refers to the Ramayana.

 

 

The Puranas refer to both Ramayana and the Bible, not to speak of the Vedas.

 

All the literary works in India refer to the Vedas, Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

 

These are works belonging to the years before Christ.

 

2.Post Christ Era.

 

All the works in India refer to all of these at least in the two languages I know, Sanskrit and Tamil, of these Tamil is at least 500 year old.

 

Tamil works of the Sangam period which are t least 500 years older than the Bible quotes the Hindu Epics and the Vedas.

 

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Old Testament.

 

One of the major tools in determing the existence of a Literay work or event is the cross refernce in the  Text, refernce to it by works of the same period

and its refernce to it at least in the earliest succeeding work.

 

Hinduism fulfills these tests.

 

What about the Bible?

 

Bible is taken so seriously that people have fixed even time scale on Christ!

 

Has the Bible been referred to in the works of the same period or in the period immediately succeeding it?

 

I do not seem to find it anywhere.

 

Excepting Bible refrences in the non Cannonical texts of the Bible.

 

All the cannonical texts are taken as  a part of the Bible.

 

This is like Ramayana proving Ramyana in itself!-by taliking about it in The Ramayana.

 

And the Hebrew Bible called Hebrew Bible, also known as the Tanakh by Jews, is the earliest refernce to The Bible.

 

And the Tanakh is dated at  2 Century BC, that is 200 Years before Christ!

 

4.

“Perhaps the most obvious way that the Bible has inspired writers can be seen in the ways that works of literature actually retell stories found in the Bible. John Milton’s Paradise Lost, for example, retells the biblical fall of man in a long, epic poem, including Satan’s rebellion against God and Adam and Eve’s expulsion from Eden.

Similarly, John Steinbeck‘s East of Eden is roughly structured around the biblical story of Cain and Abel. Another example can be seen in C.S. Lewis’s The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Following the biblical story of God as the all-powerful savior, Lewis uses the Bible to create parts of his plot,   by especially with the return of King Aslan, which parallels Jesus’s return.

Other writers take images in the Bible and expand on them or use them as a setting, such as Dante, who used the Bible’s description of the afterlife to create an epic 3-volume poem that explores Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven, titled the Divine Comedy.”

 

 

And Dante’s period is  1265–1321 !, full 1200 Years after Christ.

 

Why there is no reference to The Bible at all in the earlier works between the Bible and the Divine Comedy?

 

 

Perhaps there was no literature!

 

3.The Bible should have been referred to corresponding literature of the same period.

 

I do not find any reference at all.

 

Now which History is credible?

 

Hinduism where Rama’s and Krishna’s dates have been proved,places mentioned have been identified, refernces to them are found every where in Indian Literature,in Japan,Cambodia, Laos,Lanka, Russia, Italy,Americas,and Africa or

 

The Bible and the western History?

 

 

http://education-portal.com/academy/lesson/the-bible-as-literary-influence-references-and-allusion.html#lesson

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“Don’t Respect Other Religions” The Bible


 

If some one has a doubt that Christianity whether Christianity respects other Religions, here is quote and explanation from Edward D. Waller, Ph. D. in

Catholic News.

 

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Catholicism.

 

The statement and the article is directed at Protestants and those who are Non Catholics among the Christians.

 

If this is the attitude towards their sister groups,whom the consider as their mortal enemies, what is there to sa about other Religions?

 

 

If respecting other religions means to refrain from interfering with other people’s beliefs, then how do we reconcile Christ’s words to His apostles before ascending into Heaven? “

And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to Me in Heaven and in earth. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” (Matt.28:18-20)

Christ’s instructions were very clearly given to His apostles. They were commanded to teach ALL (not some) nations ALL things (not some things) whatsoever Christ had commanded them to teach. That is, Christ gave them the revealed truth and all His doctrines. The apostles were not told to respect those nations or beliefs that held different beliefs from Christ’s teachings. Even Christ professed Truth to the elite Rabbis who rejected not only His teachings, but Christ as Son of God. Christ was crucified on the cross because He did not compromise His teachings

 

Is it possible to consider worthy of high regard or esteem other religious beliefs that are contradictions to the Truth found within the Roman Catholic Church? Should we respect religions that allow polygamy, deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ, deny original sin and the Immaculate Conception? Should we respect beliefs of others that allow divorce, abortion and permit homosexuality as a lifestyle?

How can TRUE Catholics hold these beliefs in high regard or esteem and call themselves followers of Christ? As a Catholic I should respect my fellow brothers and sisters. I can hold human beings in high regard and esteem because each one of us has been created in the image and likeness of God. Jesus gave us the commandment to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and to love our neighbor as ourselves. He did not tell us to love sin or beliefs that contradict His teachings. Thus, I will not elevate with high regard or esteem any religion or belief that contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Pope Pius XII states in the same encyclical, “…God has given to His Church a living Teaching Authority to elucidate and explain what is contained in the deposit of faith only obscurely and implicitly. This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church.” He further states that Christ appointed the Church as “guardian and interpreter of the whole deposit of divinely revealed truth”.

God did not send His only begotten Son into the world to establish a multiple of religions equally meriting salvation. If this were the case, there would have been no need for Christ to die on the cross, for all religions would have been equally pleasing to God. Christ came to establish His Church which contains the WHOLE deposit of divinely revealed truth which is the ONLY means to salvation. The present post-conciliar Church has silenced the doctrine of “No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church” as a means of promoting false ecumenism which attempts to establish respect for all religions.

I can not understand how Catholics could fall for such nonsense. Are they unaware that a doctrine can never be revoked. A doctrine is a revealed truth through God that can NEVER change. God is pure Truth and can never deceive us. Only man and the serpent are capable of deceptive ploys.

Pope Pius XII reiterates this doctrine very clearly and precisely. “Some say they are not bound by the doctrine which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian faith. These and like ERRORS, it is clear, have crept in among certain of our sons who are deceived by imprudent zeal for souls or by false science.”..

Since the Second Vatican Council, there has been great emphasis on ecumenism or unity among all religions. We are now hearing from all levels within the Roman Catholic Church that we must RESPECT all religions. We are told that we must refrain from forcing our beliefs onto others. We are told that all religions hold some truth that may lead to salvation of souls. What we have not been told is that this notion is UTTER NONSENSE and contrary to our traditional faith.

In the encyclical, Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII warns the faithful about false “irenics” (ecumenism). He states: “Another danger is perceived which is all the more concealed beneath the mask of virtue. There are many who, deploring disagreement among men and intellectual confusion, through an imprudent zeal for souls, are urged by a great and ardent desire to do away with the barrier that divides good and honest men; these advocate an ‘irenism’ according to which, by setting aside the questions which divide men, they aim not only at joining forces to repel the attack of atheism, but also at reconciling things opposed to one another in the field of dogma.

“…But some through enthusiasm for an imprudent ‘irenism’ seem to consider as an obstacle to the restoration of fraternal union things founded on the laws and principles given by Christ and likewise on institutions founded by Him, or which are the defense and support of the integrity of the faith, and the removal of which would bring about the union of all, but only to their destruction.

“In theology some want to reduce to a minimum the meaning of dogmas: and to free dogma itself from terminology long established in the Church and from philosophical concepts held by Catholic teachers … They cherish the hope that when dogma is stripped of the elements which they hold to be extrinsic to divine revelation, it will compare advantageously with the dogmatic opinions of those who are separated from the unity of the Church and that in this way they will gradually arrive at a mutual assimilation of Catholic dogma with the tenets of the dissidents.

“Moreover they assert that when Catholic doctrine has been reduced to this condition, a way will be found to satisfy modern needs, that will permit dogma being expressed also by the concepts of modern philosophy … Some more audaciously affirm that this can and must be done, because they hold that the mysteries of faith are never expressed by truly adequate concepts but only by approximate and ever changeable notions, in which the truth is to some extent expressed, but is necessarily distorted.”

 “A person sins against faith, first, by not trying to know what God has taught; second, by refusing to believe all that God has taught; third, by neglecting to profess his belief in what God has taught.”

(Baltimore Catechism No. 4, p. 265) False worship is a sin against the First Commandment. “And now that we have the real sacrifice it would be sinful to use only figures, (as in other religions) and it would be a false worship displeasing to God …So, too, all those who leave the true Church to practice a religion of their own have a false worship, for they worship God not as He wants, but as they wish” (Baltimore Catechism No. 4, p. 261).

Citation.

http://www.olrl.org/doctrine/respect.shtml

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