Satavahana Dynasty Gautamiputra Satakarni Satavahavana Dynasty 9600 BC

The first king is Simuka.

One of the greatest kings was Gautamiputra Satakarni.

He assisted the Chera King Cheran Senguttuvan.

As Senguttuvan is dated around 9600 BC,Gautamiputra Satakarni and the Satavahavana dynasty may be dated from the present First Century BC to 9600-9500 BC.

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I have come across the curious reticence of Historians when they write on Indian history.

They are prepared to take as authentic texts/books by Authors from the West,from Plato, Thucydides,Xenophon,Ptolomey, Strabo,Megasthanes,Huan -tsuang,The Bible,Iliad,Odessey,Koran ,they brush aside Indian texts as myths,legends and the works of ancient Indian writers as figment of overworked imagination!

But facts of Indian history are being confirmed by Archeology, Etymology, Cultural cross references,asro dating,Archeoastronomy,Carbon dating,Sea floor movements,Glacial movements,Strata verification , Plate Tectonics ,Cave paintings,and Epigraphs.

Western history,as revealed by these tools,are quite nascent when compared to the Timeline of India.

The earlier western texts can not quote the much more ancient Indian texts because they had no access or even if they had,their knowledge was limited because of their poor understanding of Sanskrit ,Brahmi of various hues and the Ethos of Indian culture.

And nearly all of them miss out sources other than those in Sanskrit.

There was and is Tamil,Kannada,Telugu, Bengali.

These languages are also ancient and they have vast literature.

References found in these sync with what is found in Sanskrit.

Sanskrit and these languages quote each other on historical events.

Thus we find that,

Kannada and Tamil kings took part in the Mahabharata war,

Bengal was over twenty-five Thousand years old,

Varanasi is the oldest continuously inhabited city of the world,

……..

So ,when foreign authors write on Indian history,they record what they have seen and not on what happened earlier in India.

Yet some of them like Strabo,Megasthanes,Huan-tsusang,Fa-hien refer to the antiquity of India.

Strabo and Megasthanes refer to Tamil and Lanka in detail.

The assignment of dates in Indian history now is based nearly wholly on these western sources,and not much on Indian sources.

If one were to devote time to study Indian texts and cross reference them among Sanskrit,Pali,Tamil,Kannada texts and further check with Epigraphs found in Indian temples,real Indian history would emerge.

It stands to reason to trust these multiple sources as they were independent of each other , region wise language wise and the kings of these countries were at war with others at many a times.

The problem arises when the current date assigned to an event in Indian history is way Off the mark by as much as 10,000 years!

Yet, the evidence is compelling.

One such is the the dating of Tamil Chera kings and the Satavahavana dynasties.

Satavahavana dynasty ruled initially from Prathistana,Amravathi and their kingdom encompassed Central India,Andhra, Maharashtra, Karnataka.

They succeeded the Kanva dynasty.

The first king is Simuka.

One of the greatest kings was Gautamiputra Satakarni.

He assisted the Chera King Cheran Senguttuvan.

As Senguttuvan is dated around 9600 BC,Gautamiputra Satakarni and the Satavahavana dynasty may be dated from the present First Century BC to 9600-9500 BC.

Gautamiputra Satakarni coin.image.
Gautamiputra Satakarni coin, Satavahavana.

This declaration by this king happened in the first century CE. This is known from the fact that this king was a friend of Gautamiputra Satakarniwhose time period has been documented. The name Satakarni is “Nootruvar kannar” in Tamil. He provided boats to enable Cheran’s army to cross the Ganges. From there onwards, till their destination in the Himalayas, they had met with some resistance. Silappadhikaram makes a mention that this Cheran king won over the “ill-mouthed Yavanas” before reaching the Himalayas (from where he procured the stone for making the image of Kannagi)..

A cross reference comes from the Nashik inscription on the mother of Gautamiputra Satakarni that her son (Satakarni) subdued Yavanas too besides Shakas and Pahlavas. There is no other reference to when and how he made this happen. But just 2 lines from Silappadhikaram on the Cheran king’s victory over Yavanas give a complete picture of what happened.
In Mahabharata, the Yavanas, Shakas and Pahlavas are grouped together as having kinship among themselves. Their location was in North West India at the base of Himalayas which is in today’s Pakistan or Afghanistan. It is obvious that the stone for making the deity was collected from that part of the Himalayas for which the Cheran army and Satakarni army had gone together. They had faced resistance from the Yavanas and others but successfully overpowered them.
The exact cause for the war with them can be guessed from the Tamil text. It refers to the Yavanas as “ill-mouthed” (van sol). The Yavanas must have hurled abuses at the Cheran king and Satakani which was promptly paid back by them.
This victory has found a mention in the Nashik inscription while it finds a fleeting mention in Silappadhikaram. The absence of reference to Pahlavas and Shakas is due to the fact all Mlecchas were referred to as Yavanas in Tamil texts.

Source.

Jayasreesaranathan

The Satavahana power was revived by Gautamiputra Satakarni, who is considered the greatest of the Satavahana rulers.Charles Higham dates his reign  103 – c. 127 CE. S. Nagaraju dates it 106–130 CE. The king defeated by him appears to have been the Western Kshatrapa ruler Nahapana, as suggested by Nahapana’s coins overstuck with names and titles of Gautamiputra. The Nashik prashasti inscription of Gautamiputra’s mother Gautami Balashri, dated to the 20th year after his death, records his achievements. The most liberal interpretation of the inscription suggests that his kingdom extended from the present-day Rajasthan in the north to Krishna river in the south, and from Saurashtra in the west to Kalinga in the east. He assumed the titles Raja-Raja (King of Kings) and Maharaja (Great King), and was described as the Lord of Vindhya.

During the last years of his reign, his administration was apparently handled by his mother, which could have been a result of an illness or military preoccupation.According to the Nasik inscription made by his mother Gautami Balashri, he was the one …

… who crushed down the pride and conceit of the Kshatriya; who destroyed the Sakas (Western Satraps), Yavanas (Indo-Greeks) and Pahlavas (Indo-Parthians),… who rooted out the Khakharata family (the Kshaharata family of Nahapana); who restored the glory of the Satavahana race.

 Inscription of Queen Mother Gautami Balashri at Cave No.3 of the Pandavleni Caves in Nashik.

Source.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satavahana_dynasty

Second Great Tamil Tsunami 13000 BC Chera Dynasty Silappadikaaram 9600 BC?

Therefore,both Ilango Adigal,Cheran Senguttavan may be anti- dated from the present Third century BC, to 11600 CE.

And the Tsunami of Sangam priod,the Second one,which Silappadikaaram mentions must be earlier to 15,000 years ago.


I had written on Human migration stating that History of India stretches back to 1.5Million years in the light of archeological finds .

The site at Attirampakkam,Chennai,Tamil Nadu us dated at 1.5 million years.

Bhimbedka in North India,Edakkal cave paintings are dated 75000 years and about 100,000 years respectively.

Then Thiruvannamalai,India is dated around 3.94 Bikkion years.

Jwalapuram,near Cuddapah in Andhra,India is dated around 74,000 years.

There are many more ancient sites than Ramayana and Mahabharata.

(I have written on these sites.)

Acheulian stone tools which is about 1.51 million years old, have been discovered in Chennai near Attirampakkam. These stones were found by researchers from the Chennai-based Sharma Centre for Heritage Education.

The discovery indicates that early humans (hominins), used these tools. The tools are much older than those found in Europe. These tools are also found in several countries in South Asia, including India, Nepal, and Pakistan.

More than hundreds of different tools have been discovered from the Attirampakkam site. The most common ones are hand-axes, cleavers and small flakes. The stone axes are elongated teardrop or ovate-shaped with bifacial symmetry.

Unlike the hand-axes, the cleavers have broad cutting edges.

https://www.newsreporter.in/million-years-old-acheulian-tools-were-found-in-chennai

The fact that Lemuria existed and migration took place from the south of present India gets strengthened.

  • . 60,000 BCE – 32,768 BCE
    Human habitation of India.
  • 5,500 BCE
    Cotton cultivation begins in India.
  • c. 5,000 BCE – c. 1,500 BCE
    The Indus Valley (or Harappan) Civilization.
  • c. 5,000 BCE
    Evidence of religious practices in the Indus Valley.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/india-1-5-million-years-old-first-human-migration-from-southern-coast-india/

Poompuhar,the famous port of Chola kings has been found and it is dated around 11,500 ago.

Taking into consideration the advanced construction of the remains found in Poompuhar and the richness of the Tamil language as revealed and found in Silappadikaaram,one of the Five Epics of Tamil indicate that the Tamil language should have been in existence at least five thousand years earlier.

This is a conservative estimate.

References to Tamil,Tamil kings are found in Sanskrit texts including Ramayana and Mahabharata.

Poompuhar evidence.

Most notably these other discoveries include a second completely separate group of structures fully three miles from the Poompuhar shore in water that is more than 70 feet (23 metres) deep. The lack of interest is surprising because to anyone with even minimal knowledge of post-glacial sea-level rise their depth of submergence is – or should be – highly anomalous. Indeed according to Glenn Milne’s sea-level data the land on which these structures were built last stood above water at the end of the Ice Age more than 11,000 years ago.

Is it a coincidence that there are ancient Tamil flood myths that speak of a great kingdom that once existed in this area called Kumari Kandam that was swallowed up by the sea? Amazingly the myths put a date of 11,600 years ago on these events — the same timeframe given by Plato for the end of Atlantis in another ocean.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/poompuhar-find-sets-tamilhinduism-by-atleast-20000-years/

Ilango Adigal who wrote Silappadikaram was the younger brother of the Chera king Cheran Senguttuvan.

The happenings in Silappadikaaram took place during the lifetime of these two.

Therefore,both Ilango Adigal,Cheran Senguttavan may be anti- dated from the present Third century BC, to 11600 CE.

And the Tsunami of Sangam priod,the Second one,which Silappadikaaram mentions must be earlier to 15,000 years ago.

Will be writing on the First Tsunami and the second in detail.

And the Chera dynasty to around 11,600 years ago.

I had written earlier with the available evidence then about the Kings List of Tamil Nadu.

This now stands revised.

Chera Kings List.

Udiyancheralatan
Antuvancheral
Imayavaramban Nedun-Cheralatan (56–115 AD)
Cheran Chenkutuvan (from 115)
Palyanai Sel-Kelu Kuttuvan (115–130)
Poraiyan Kadungo (from 115)
Kalankai-Kanni Narmudi Cheral (115–140)
Vel-Kelu Kuttuvan (130–185)
Selvak-Kadungo (131–155)
Adukotpattu Cheralatan (140–178)
Kuttuvan Irumporai (178–185)
Tagadur Erinda Perumcheral (185–201)
Yanaikat-sey Mantaran Cheral (201–241)
Ilamcheral Irumporai (241–257)
Perumkadungo (257–287)
Ilamkadungo (287–317)

Kanaikkal Irumborai(367-397).

That there were two Tsunamis mentioned in Tamil literature.The first Tsunami devoured the Thenmadurai ,in Lemuria.

The second one consumed Kapadapuram.

This is mentioned in Silappadikaaram thus.

வடிவே லெறிந்த வான்பகை பொறாது

பஃறுளி யாற்றுடன் பன்மலை யடுக்கத்துக்

குமரிக் கோடுங் கொடுங்கடல் கொள்ள

– நாடு காண் காதை.

The Tsunam devoured The river Pahruli and Kanyakumari,which was near the montain range.

Ilango Adigal’s Grandfather was Udiyan Cheralaathan and he was the first known king of Chera dynasty.(with available evidence now)

So we can date Silappadikaram,Ilango Adigal around to 9600 BC and Tsunami around 13,000 BC.

Yagnya Vedic Symbols In Tamil Coins 11000 Years Palyagasalai Mudukutumi Peruvazhuthi

If the city where the action in Silappadikaaram took place,as found in Poompuhar,is now dated around 11,000 years,how can one assign 300 BC to the Grandson of the king in Silappadikaaram,as 300BC?

And Silappadikaaram st 600 BC?


Thanks to internet,one is able to collate information from various sources, especially from foreign authors,ehile researching the History of India.

Hitherto,Indian history has been dated to 5114,this date being assigned to the Rig Veda.

Researches and archeological studies have enabled one to push this date and othet dates pertaining to India.

Arikkamedu,Adhichanallur,Mangulam, Poompuhar,Thirukkoilur and a host of other sites including the one near Chennai,which is dated about a Million years ago,prove the antiquity of Tamils and Hinduism.

As these facts emerge,what has hitherto been assumed to be legends and stories are now being accepted as historical facts.

For instance,Silappadikaaram,one of the Five Epics in Tamil,an ancient language of India,was dated around 300 BC.

But recent excavation of Poompuhar off the coast of Tamil Nadu has been dated now around 11,500 years ago.

The reference to Tamil kings found in Silappadikaaram has to be,therfore needs revision.

The Pandya kings’dates need revision.

  1. The Sanskrit texts and Sangam literature mention that the Chera king Udiyan Chearalaathan fed both Pandava and Kaurava armies during the Mahabharata battle.
  2. Sarangadwaja,also called Makarathwaja,A Pandyan king,fathet of Madurai Meenakshi fought on the side of Pandavas in Mahabharata.
  3. And another Chera kind Palyagasalai Mudukudumi Perivazhuthi’s date need revision.
  4. His grandfather,Nedunchezhiyan is the Pandya king mentioned in Silappadikaaram.

If the city where the action in Silappadikaaram took place,as found in Poompuhar,is now dated around 11,000 years,how can one assign 300 BC to the Grandson of the king in Silappadikaaram,as 300BC?

And Silappadikaaram st 600 BC?

His date ,now assigned at 300 BC may be assigned around 11,000 years ago.

And Sangam literature dates may also be pushed back to the same period.

And,in the process,the lie that Tamils were against Sanatana Dharma is nailed for Peruvazhuthi issued coins with Vedic Symbols.

The name Palyagasalai Mudukudumi Peruvazhuthi means the ‘King who performed Many Yagnyas and had sported a Tuft:

Another series of coins, all made of copper and found near Madurai, have the fish symbol on the reverse and among other symbols on the obverse, have the legend Peruvaluthi written in the Tamil-Brahmi script. They have been assigned a date of around 200 BCE and are considered to have been issued by the Pandyan king Peruvaluthi. These coins are represent some of the few instances where the names of Sangam kings appear in non-literary sources.

Sangam literature mentions the importance attached to Vedic sacrifices by Tamil kings including the Pandyan Mudukudumi Peruvaludhi.

This fact is also corroborated by the discovery of several Pandyan coins that are referred to as the Vedic sacrifice series. These coins have symbols on their obverse that depict the sacrifices, such as a horse tied to the yuba-stambha, a yagna kunta and a nandhipada’

Source.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_of_ancient_Tamil_history

Chola Tamil Kings Enforced Laws of Manu Thiruvaarur Thyagaraja Temple Epigraph.

It is found in the North wall of the second Prakaara.

The epigraph is about Vikrama Chola.

It may be noted that the Chola Kings used the epbithet,’one who followed the Laws of Manu’.


Indian history as described in Sanskrit texts and Tamil texts of yore are in agreement in terms of the Dynasties of Kings, especially of the Tamil Kings.

It is a pity that Tamil is being portrayed as anti Vedic and Sanatana Dharma.

The Laws of Manu are being quoted as an evidence of Aryan, North Indian domination of Dravidas and Tamils.

Facts speak otherwise.

Here we shall see how the Tamil kings enforced and followed the Laws of Manu.

As an aside,I have written on Manu being a Dravida king and Lord Rama belinged to Chola as Manu was a Chola king.

Manu’s son Ikshvaku founded the Surya vamsa,the Solar dynasty.

In this sense Lord Rama belonged to Chola Dynasty and not the other way around.

The Tamil kings followed The Laws of Manu.

One Chera king,Cheras being one of the three dynasties that ruled the south,Perunchotru Udiyan Cheralaathan,provided food for both the Kaurava and Pandava Armies during the Mahabharata War.

He also allotted lands, villages to Brahmins and Sangam literature records this and the fact that he would see if the Smoke of Yagnya fire rises in the morning from these villages allotted to Brahmins.

Another King,Malathdwaja ,A Pandyan King,the third dynasty of the south,took part in the Mahabharata War on the side of the Pandavas and gave a stiff fight to Aswathama.

Tamil and Sanskrit literature record many more instances.

The earliest temple inscription indicating that the Laws of Manu were followed is found in the Thiruvaarur Thyagaraja temple.

It is found in the North wall of the second Prakaara.

The epigraph is about Vikrama Chola.

It may be noted that the Chola Kings used the epbithet,’one who followed the Laws of Manu’.

This title is called Meykkeerthi,meaning the Adjective to be used while using the King’s Name,a Honorary title.

Information on the Tamil kings having followed the Laws of Manu are confirmed by the eligraphs of Sundara Pandya and the epigraphs at Puthur and Mappedu in Chengalpet District,Tamil Nadu.

This information is also found in many chola temples.

திருவாரூர் தியாகராயர் கோவிலின் இரண்டாம் பிரகாரத்தில் வடக்குச் சுவரில் உள்ள விக்கிரமச் சோழன் கல்வெட்டில் (தெ.இ.க. 5; 456) மனுநீதிச் சோழன் பற்றிய குறிப்புக்கள் இடம் பெற்றுள்ளன. இக் கல்வெட்டில் மனுநீதிச் சோழனின் அமைச்சனது பெயர், இங்கணாட்டு பாலையூருடையான் உபயகுலாமவன் என்று குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதன் வாயிலாக மனுநீதிச் சோழனின்அமைச்சனுக்கு ஒரு தெளிவான அடையாளம் வழங்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. சேக்கிழார் காலத்துக்குப் பிந்தைய கல்வெட்டு இது.
சோழர் ஆட்சிக்காலத்தி;ல் அரசநீதியாக மனுநீதி விளங்கியது. இதை சோழர்கால மெய்கீர்த்திகள் வாயிலாக அறியலாம். ‘மனுவாறு விளங்க’, ‘மனுநெறி’, ‘மனுவொழுக்கம்’ என்ற சொல்லாட்சி சோழர்கால மெய்கீர்த்திகளில் பரவலாக இடம்பெற்றுள்ளது.
மூன்றாம் குலோத்துங்கச் சோழனின் பதினொன்றாம் ஆட்சியாண்டுக் கல்வெட்டில் (தெ.இ.க III பகுதி 1, 2; 86, 87) மெய்கீர்த்தியாக மனு நீதி முறை வளர மனு நீதி தழைத்தோங்க என்ற தொடர்கள் இடம்பெற்றுள்ளன.
செஙகல்பட்டு மாவட்டம் மப்பேடு கிராமத்து சிவன் கோவிலிலும், தஞ்சை மாவட்ட கடம்பவனேசுவரர் கோவிலிலும் மனுநீதிச் சோழன் தொடர்பான சிற்பங்கள் உள்ளன (தகவல்: முனைவர் வெ. வேதாச்சலம், கல்வெட்டாய்வாளர்).
பெரிய புராணத்தை அதன் மூலத்திலிருந்து விலகாது உரைநடையில் எழுதிய தி. பட்டுசாமி ஓதுவார் (2005; XIII) மனுநீதிச் சோழன் என்ற தலைப்பில் “இவன், ஏழரான் (ஏழ் 10 ஆரன்ளூ ஏழு மாலைகளை அணிந்தவன் அல்லது ஏழு அரசரை வென்று சூடிய ஏழு மாலைகளையுடையவன்) என்னும் பெயர் உடையவன் கி.மு. 2 ஆம் நூற்றாண்டின் இடைப்பகுதியில் இலங்கை மீது படையெடுத்து அசேலன் என்பவனை வெற்றி பெற்றவன்.” என்ற குறிப்பை எழுதியுள்ளார்.

Source.

https://mukkulamannargal.weebly.com/16-297030153006299629923021-299729922994300629933009–299030092993302129653006299429903021-2951297530162965302129653006299429903021-298630072993302.html

Essence Of Devotion Bhakti Twelve Azhwars of Tamil Overview

Goosebumps all over,Flowing Tears from the eyes,

Overflowing Bliss makes one lose one’s mind,

Failed words, all these make one lose balance,

If these be the Divinity of Abhirami Experience,may it be the Best’

Azhwars have also explained on similar forceful lines of Divine Experience.

Will be writing on them individually.


I have been blessed with friendships with some great personalities in the field Arts, Literature and Philosophy.

In the field of Arts I had the fortune of gaining the friendships of Poet Laureate,Kavignar Kannadasan ,who was a great Film Lyricist and a Classical Tamil poet.

And Ranganathan,called Vaali,Film Lyricist and a Tamil poet of great learning.

If Kannadasan’s lyrics ,poems drew from life,experience ,touched one’s heart,Vaali,touched you with imagery and the handling of Tamil language.

Once I asked Vaali as to how he could write such exquisite Lyrics,using slightly modified Classical Tamil and why he professes the Name of Subrahmanya,Murugan at all times,sports Kumkum on the forehead,despite him being Vaishnava.

To the second question he replied that Tamil was his passion and Murugan being identified with Tamil, he was fond of Murugan.

He also added that his song on Murugan’Karpanai Enraalum Karchilai enraalum Kandahar Unai Maraven,made him popular.

(Be it be said you are a figment of imagination,or be a Stone, Never will I forget you).

As to his mastery over Tamil he said that if one were to read the poems of Azhwars,Naalayira Divya Prabhandham,it is more than enough,though reading all Azhwars may take A Lifetime.

True.

If one were to look for Absolute Surrender to God,get immersed in Bhakti and could express the exquisite experience, it was Azhwars.

Nayanmars,the Devotees of Shiva also belong to this class.

What is this experience like?

Abhirami Bhattar ,in His Abhirami Andhadhi Describes thus,

விரும்பித் தொழும் அடியார்விழி நீர்மல்கி,

மெய்புளகம் அரும்பித் ததும்பிய ஆனந்தமாகி, அறிவிழந்து,

கரும்பிற் களித்து, மொழிதடு மாறி முன் சொன்ன எல்லாம்

தரும் பித்தர் ஆவரென்றால் அபிராமி சமயம் நன்றே.-94
Read More at: bhakthiplanet.com/2012/06/abirami-andhadhi-lyrics/ © BHAKTHIPLANET.COM

Goosebumps all over,Flowing Tears from the eyes,

Overflowing Bliss makes one lose one’s mind,

Failed words, all these make one lose balance,

If these be the Divinity of Abhirami Experience,may it be the Best’

Azhwars have also explained on similar forceful lines of Divine Experience.

Will be writing on them individually.

Azhwars represent total surrender,Saranagathi,echoing the Karna Mantra in The Bhagavad-Gita,

Sarvakarmmaan parithyasja,maameva Charanam vraja,

Aham thva sarvapaapebyo Mokkshamichaami ,Ma Sucha.

Azhwar surrenders thus,

ஊரிலேன் காணியில்லை உறவு மற்றொருவர் இல்லை

பாரில் நின் பாதமூலம் பற்றிலேன் பரம மூர்த்தி

காரொளி வண்ணனே என் கண்ணனே கதறுகின்றேன்

ஆருளர்க் களைகண் அம்மா அரங்க மாநகருளானே.

No place to Dwell,No Property to Own,

Nor do I have anyone,

Neither have I clung to Your Feet,

Krishna,hear my cries of Anguish,

Relieve me ,The One,who is at Srirangam.

And one Azhwar Even Blesses God Vishnu!

பல்லாண்டு பல்லாண்டு பல்லாயிரத்தாண்டு

பலகோடி நூறாயிரம்

மல்லாண்ட திண்தோள் மணிவண்ணா! உன்

சேவடி செவ்வித்திருக்காப்பு

May You Live for Over Thousands of Years,

Over many more,

One who with strong shoulders hardened over many a battle,

May I proceed by Praying your Feet

This item by Periyazhwar,father of Andal,who is also an Azhwar.

Lord Ranganatha married Andal,the adopted daughter of Periyazhwar.

So Vishnu is Azhwars Son in law.

It is traditional in Hinduism forefather in law to Bless thereon in law.

And Azhwar does that.

When?

As was and is the custom in Hinduism,the Bride and the Bridegroom, went around the town after marriage.

Now it has become the case of Reception before marriage!

The Bride was Andal and the Bridegroom,Lord Vishnu.

Place, Madurai.

So handsome were the couple that Father-in-law,Periyazhwar felt Evil Eye might be cast on Vishnu.

Hence this poem to Bless Vishnu?

Which Religion can relate to God at this Personal level?

Or that of a lover,Andal addressing Vishnu thus,

‘This Poem is recited twice when reciting Thiruppavai (Vagak kadla Kadaintha is also recited twice?

The meaning of the words/sentence in Italics convey more than what has been translated.

I am sure my readers can understand.

Tell me, which religion, or Devotee has the courage and conviction to address as Such?

By the way this is yet another Proof that Lord Krishna married the Pandyan Princess Nappinnai.’

There are twelve Azhwars.

The Term Azhwar means’ One who is immersed in’

The word azhwar has traditionally been etymologized as from Tamil. ‘Azh’ (ஆழ்), ‘to immerse oneself’ as ‘one who dives deep into the ocean of the countless attributes of god’ .However recently Indologist S.Palaniappan has shown that what was originally Āļvār (ஆள்வார்) meaning ‘One who rules’, or ‘(Spiritual) Master’ got changed through hypercorrection and folk etymology to Āzhvār (ஆழ்வார்) meaning ‘One who is immersed’.

There is another interpretation.

The term Azhwar can be written and spelled as ஆள்வார்.

This is is written as Alwar in English.

One who rules’ is the meaning.

This could be because the Alwars ruled Tamil Language or to mean ‘those who are immersed in Vishnu would Rule over Mokkshamichaami or Destiny.

Itlaics is my interpretation.

Palaniappan cites inscriptional evidence and even literary evidence from Vaisnhavaite tradition itself for a gradual sound change from āļvār to āzhvār over a period of two centuries from the 9th to the 11th century involving references to religious leaders in Vaishnavism, Shaivism and even Jainism and to political personalities. He states: “āzhvār is but a corrupt form of āļvār which has been used interchangeably with nāyanār in secular and religious contexts in the Tamil land” and “… Notwithstanding the Vaishnava claim of unbroken teacher-student tradition, the fact that Nathamuni has used the form āļvār but Piļļān [A disciple and younger cousin of Rāmānuja] ended up using the form āzhvār suggests that there has been an error in transmission somewhere along the teacher-student chain between the two teachers. This error was obviously due to the influence of the sound variation that has occurred in the Srirangam area and elsewhere”.

The original word ஆள்வார் compares with the epithet ‘Āṇḍãḷ’ ((ஆண்டாள்) for the female canonized Vaishnava saint Gōdai ((கோதை) and they share the same verb Tamil. āḷ ((ஆள்), the former being the honorific non-past (or present-future) form and the latter the feminine past form of that same verb.’

Dates of Alwars are,as usual in Indian History,are disputed,ranging from 4000 CE to 8 Century AD.

The twelve Azhwars List.

These Alwars were born in various parts of our country but they were all united in a common subject, ie dedicating their lives and praising the Lord.

Poigai Alwar, Bhoodath Alwar and Pei Alwar are collectively called as “Mudhal Alwars” were found in the same period of time.

Thirumazhisai Alwar, who thought the Perumal as his friend and has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal.

Thirumangai Alwar, who was a great king in his starting of life but later, changed his life to work for the Perumal and for his bhaktaas.

Thondaradippodi Alwar, who is also named as “Vipra Narayanar” led his life as the slave to the Perumal and worked for the Perumal by dedicating him with Garlands.

Thiruppaan Alwar, who belonged to the Paanar family, praised the Perumal through his beautiful songs and Paasurams.

Periyalwar, is considered as the Mother, Father for Sri Andal and Father-in-Law to Perumal has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal.

Sri Andal, who is also called as “Soodikkodutha Sudar Kodi” is said to be the daughter (brought up) of Periyalwar has created “Thiruppavai” in which she considers Sriman Naryanan as her husband. She is the only lady alwar.

Nammalwar, who sat below the Tamarind tree without having any food and sleep got Gnana and has sung Mangalasasanam on Perumal and he has worked hard to spread Sri Vaishnavam.

Madhurakavi Alwar, who is said to be the Sishyan (Student) of Nammalwar is also one among 12 Alwars.

Kulasekara Alwar, have a great bhakti towards Sri Ramar have also done Mangalasasanam on the Perumal particularly in Malayala Naatu thriuppathigal.

Will be writing more on Azhwars ,their dates,works.

Reference and citation.

http://www.divyadesam.com/alwars.shtml

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvars

கடவுள் பெயரை மறைத்து வெளியிட்ட தமிழ்த் தாய் வாழ்த்து நீராரும் கடலுடுத்த


தமிழ்த்தாயின் வாழ்த்து என்ற பெயரில், பாடலின் அனைத்து வரிகளையும் வெளியிடாமல், கடவுளைப் பற்றி புகழ்ந்து உள்ள வரிகளை நீக்கி விட்டு, தமிழ்த் தாய் வாழ்த்து என்ற பெயரில், வெளியிட்ட வர்கள், தமிழ் க் காவலர்!

தமிழை மற்றும் சுந்தரம் பிள்ளையையும் ஏமாற்றுவது அல்லவா!

நான் தமிழை மறைத்த கூட்டம் என ஆங்கிலத்தில் எழுதி ய பதிவு இதோ.

Group in Tamil Nadu has been systematically suppressing a portion of History of the Tamizh which speak about the Vedas and The Purans.

 

This group,boot-lickers of the British Raj,fueled by the false and dis-proven Theory of Aryan Invasion , mainly promoted by the Justice party,

 

purported to look after the welfare of the Tamils(interestingly

 

the Leaders of the Party were not Tamils, but Telugu Theagaraya Chettiar and a Malayali!)

 

suppressed the truth.

 

The self-styled rationalist Periyar, EVR, Leader of the Tamils(again self-proclaimed)Karunanidhi and his minions were abetting this fraud.

 

Their intention was to hide the fact that the Tamils had strong roots with The Sanatana Dharma.

 

What they forgot(Really?)  is that in the process the Richness and the cultural Heritage, even the Date of the Tamil Sangam Literature was made to look recent!

 

Let me quote.

It is a fact that archaeology in the South has so far unearthed little that can compare to findings in the North in terms of ancientness, massiveness or sophistication�: the emergence of urban civilization in Tamil Nadu is now fixed at the second or third century BC, about two and a half millennia after the appearance of Indus cities. Moreover, we do not have any fully or largely excavated city or even medium-sized town�: Madurai, the ancient capital of the Pandya kingdom, has hardly been explored at all�; Uraiyur, that of the early Cholas, saw a dozen trenches�;[5] Kanchipuram, the Pallavas� capital, had seventeen, and Karur, that of the Cheras, hardly more�; Kaveripattinam,[6] part of the famous ancient city of Puhar (the first setting of the Shilappadikaram epic), saw more widespread excavations, yet limited with regard to the potential the site offers. The same may be said of Arikamedu (just south of Pondicherry), despite excavations by Jouveau-Dubreuil, Wheeler, and several other teams right up to the 1990s.[7]

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/tamil-group-hid-tamil-history-veda-references/

முழுமையான தமிழ்த் தாய் வாழ்த்து.

நீ ராரும் கடலுடுத்த நிலமடந்தைக் கெழிலொழுகும்
சீராரும் வதனமெனத் திகழ்பரதக் கண்டமிதில்
தெக்கணமும் அதிற்சிறந்த திராவிடநல் திருநாடும்
தக்கசிறு பிறைநுதலும் தரித்தநறும் திலகமுமே!
அத்திலக வாசனைபோல் அனைத்துலகும் இன்பமுற
எத்திசையும் புகழ்மணக்க இருந்தபெரும் தமிழணங்கே!

*பல்லுயிரும் பலவுலகும் படைத்தளித்துத் துடைக்கினுமோர்
எல்லையறு பரம்பொருள்முன் இருந்தபடி இருப்பதுபோல்
கன்னடமுங் களிதெலுங்கும் கவின்மலையாளமும் துளுவும்
உன்னுதரத் தேயுதித்தே ஒன்றுபல வாகிடினும்
ஆரியம்போல் உலகவழக்கழிந்தொழிந்து சிதையாவுன்
சீரிளமைத் திறம்வியந்து செயன்மறந்து வாழ்த்துதுமே!”
– மனோன்மணியம் சுந்தரனார்

*இப்பகுதி அரசின் தமிழ்த் தாய் வாழ்த்தி ல் இடம் பெறவில்லை.

 

திருத்தப்பட்ட தமிழக அரசு அறிவித்த தமிழ்த் தாய் வாழ்த்து இதோ.

நீராருங் கடலுடுத்த நிலமடந்தைக் கெழிலொழுகும்

சீராரும் வதனமெனத் திகழ் பரதக் கண்டமிதில்
தெக்கணமும் அதிற்சிறந்த திராவிடநல் திருநாடும்
தக்கசிறு பிறைநுதலும் தரித்தநறுந் திலகமுமே
அத்திலக வாசனைபோல் அனைத்துலகும் இன்பமுற
எத்திசையும் புகழ்மணக்க இருந்தபெருந் தமிழணங்கே!
தமிழணங்கே!

உன் சீரிளமைத் திறம்வியந்து
செயல்மறந்து வாழ்த்துதுமே!
வாழ்த்துதுமே!!
வாழ்த்துதுமே!!!”

மனோன்மணீயத்தில் இடம்பெற்ற தமிழ்த் தாய் வணக்கப் பாடலான நீராருங் கடலுடுத்த நிலமடந்தைக் கெழிலொழுகும்என்ற பாடல் தமிழ் நாடு அரசினரால் தமிழ்த்தாய் வாழ்த்துப்பாடலாக ஜூன் 1970 இல் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டது.

Source.

https://ta.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%86._%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%88#%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D

Pallava Dynasty Descended From Aswathama?

Chera dynasty seems to lie with Ila,the term Elam seems to be from this word(daughter of Vaiwastha Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama, the First Human, who migrated to Ayodhya due to a Tsunami in South India.

Manus son Ikshvaku founded the Surya vamsa , the Solar dynasty from Ayodhy


The origin of the Tamil dynasties is quiet old and Tamil /Tamils are referred to in the Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Vishnu Purana, Sanskrit literature, for example in Kalidasa’s Raghuvamsa.

The Pandyas trace their ancestry to Lord Shiva whom they considered to be their Family Elder.

Cholas trace themselves to Suryavamsa, Solar Dynasty to which Rama belonged and some records indicate they trace themselves to Sage Kasyapa.

Chera dynasty seems to lie with Ila,the term Elam seems to be from this word(daughter of Vaiwastha Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama, the First Human, who migrated to Ayodhya due to a Tsunami in South India.

Manus son Ikshvaku founded the Suryavamsa , the Solar dynasty from Ayodhya.

The Cheras seem to belong the female lineage of Manu.

Now, there is another dynasty which was powerful.

IT was the Pallava Dynasty which ruled from Kanchipuram,Tamil Nadu.

The Mahabalipuram shore temples are the handiwork of Mahendra and his son Narasimhavarma Pallava.

Simha vishnu was the father of Mahendra Varma Pallava.

The inscription in Amaravathi Andhra refers that Simhavishnu was from the lineage of Aswathama.

But interestingly, the Pallava kings of Kanchi, had this legend about their genealogy, described in an inscription found near Amaravathi, Andhra, from the reign of Simhavarma Pallava,

According to which, a child was born to Aswattama and an celestial dame (apsara?) in the woods and was abandoned in a bed of creepers. And that child eventually started the dynasty.

The words for “creepers” is Pallavam, Pouthram in Sanskrit and in Tamizh, “thulir, thondai”. Hence the Pallavas aka Botharasas aka Thondaimaans.

Reference. https://www.quora.com/Did-Ashwathama-from-the-Mahabharatha-marry

There is another reference to the Pallava Dynasty in the old Tamil Epic Manimekalai , which is one of the Five Epics of Tamil, which states that the Thondamans were the descendants of Aswathama.

Cholas are also traced this way.

The earliest documentation on the Pallavas is the three copper-plate grants, now referred to as the Mayidavolu, Hirahadagalli and the British Museum plates (Durga Prasad, 1988) belonging to Skandavarman I and written in Prakrit. Skandavarman appears to have been the first great ruler of the early Pallavas, though there are references to other early Pallavas who were probably predecessors of Skandavarman.Skandavarman extended his dominions from the Krishna in the north to the Pennar in the south and to the Bellary district in the West. He performed the Aswamedhaand other Vedic sacrifices and bore the title of “Supreme King of Kings devoted to dharma”

In the reign of Simhavarman IV, who ascended the throne in 436, the territories lost to the Vishnukundins in the north up to the mouth of the Krishna were recovered.The early Pallava history from this period onwards is furnished by a dozen or so copper-plate grants in Sanskrit. They are all dated in the regnal years of the kings.

..

attributes the origin of the first Pallava King from a liaison between the daughter of a Naga king of Manipallava named Pilli Valai (Pilivalai) with a Chola king, Killivalavan, out of which union was born a prince, who was lost in ship wreck and found with a twig (pallava) of Cephalandra Indica (Tondai) around his ankle and hence named Tondai-man. Another version states that “Pallava” was born from the union of the Brahmin Ashvatthama with a Naga Princess also supposedly supported in the sixth verse of the Bahur plates which states “From Ashvatthama was born the king named Pallava”. The Pallavas themselves claimed to descend from Brahma and Ashwathama.

Though Manimekalai posits Ilam Tiriyan as a Chola, not a Pallava, the Velurpalaiyam plates dated to 852, do not mention the Cholas. Instead, they credit the Naga liaison episode, and creation of the Pallava line, to a different Pallava king named Virakurcha, while preserving its legitimising significance:

…from him (Aśvatthāman) in order (came) Pallava, the lord of the whole earth, whose fame was bewildering. Thence, came into existence the race of Pallavas… [including the son of Chūtapallava] Vīrakūrcha, of celebrated name, who simultaneously with (the hand of) the daughter of the chief of serpents grasped also the complete insignia of royalty and became famous.

Historically, early relations between Nagas and Pallavas became well-established before the myth of Pallava’s birth to Ashvatthama took root

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