History Of India 2 Eastern India Nation Of The Ganges Bengal Odisha Assam

When we read the History of a vast country like India,with its roots stretching back to over thousands of years,we should remember the landmass and the present poltical maps have no relevance.

The Ancient Indian kingdoms were 56 and I have listed them in another article.

We have to have a rough division of the Bharatvarsha into four regions for better understanding and remember that the borders of the Kingdoms were subject to periodical changes depending on which King won and annexed the vanquished territory.

I shall soon begin a Timeline of the Kings of India,though I had written on the List of Indian Kings.

And we may bear in mind that Bharathavarsha of ancient times was not limited to the present Geographical area of India.

I have written on the Rama Empire that encompassed the world and also that of Emperor Vikramaditya.

Now in the last article I had dealt with the History of India in general ,the Dynasties from Ikshvaku to Chandragupta.

It covered,though it speaks of Bharatvarsha in totality,it concentrated more on Central and North India as we know at present.

In this article,we shall check the Eastern Part of India.

Unlike the History of Central and North India,the Eastern,Southern and Western part of India are interwoven move intricately aming themselves.

For instance,the Eastern India was closely connected to Dravida Desa,the present South India.

The Eastern and Southern people,Dravidas were classified as Dasyus,that is who did not follow the Vedas in its entirety.

And while the Central and North Indian Kings expanded more towards North and North East of India,the Western and Southern  kings expanded their Kindoms towards the east of India to Micronesia and the present Australia.

The Southern ,Dravida kings ,in addition to East ,expanded their Kingdoms towards Middle East,Africa,Greece and the Americas.

The Eastern kingdoms comprised of the present West Bengal,Bangladesh,Assam,Odisha and Northeastern State.

The Eastern Indian polity comprised of five major tribes and were predominantly Kshatriyas and I itiallythey did not accept the Brahmins and the Vedas fully and hence were called Dasyus.

AngasVangasKalingas, Pundras and Suhmas shared a common ancestry.

Some interpretations suggest Dasyu means Slave (Monier Williams)

I take the well researched interpretation of Sri.P.T.Srinivasa Iyengar,in his ‘History of Tamils’that Dasyu means who do not follow Vedas in its entirety.

Hindu scriptures such as the Mahabharata suggest that ancient Bengal was divided among various tribes or kingdoms, including the Nishadas and kingdoms known as the Janapadas: Vanga (southern Bengal), Pundra (northern Bengal), and Suhma (western Bengal) according to their respective totems. ‘

The Vanga Kingdom was the first powerful seafaring nation of South Asia, especially Bengal. They had overseas trade relations with JavaSumatra and Siam (modern-day Thailand). According to Mahavamsa, the Vanga prince Vijaya Simhaconquered Lanka (modern-day Sri Lanka) in 544 BCE and gave the name “Sinhala” to the country. Bengali people migrated to the Malay Archipelago and Siam (in modern Thailand), establishing their own colonies there.

*I do not agree with these dates;they can be pushed earlier.

The Southern ,Dravida kings ,in addition to East ,expanded their Kingdoms towards Middle East,Africa,Greece and the Americas
These kingdoms find reference in thebAtharva Veda and Greek writers refer extensively these areas.

Gangaridai (GreekΓανγαρίδαι; Latin: Gangaridae) was an ancient region corresponding to the Ganges delta region of the Indian subcontinent, which was mentioned in the records of numerous Greco-Roman writers. The term means “nation of the Ganges” in Greek and Latin. It is one of the earliest references to the Bengal region in the Indian subcontinent (now divided between Bangladesh and the Indian state of West Bengal). According to ancient Indian records, the Vanga Kingdom and Samatata Kingdom occupied the region during the same period. The capital of the Gangaridai is thought by some archaeologists to be situated at Kotalipara in present-day Gopalganj District, Bangladesh…..

Diodorus Siculus further describes “Gandaridae”:

Among the southern countries the first under the Kaukasos is India, a kingdom remarkable for its vast extent and the largeness of its population, for it is inhabited by very many nations, among which the greatest of all is that of the Gandaridae, against whom Alexander did not undertake an expedition, being deterred by the multitude of their elephants. This region is separated from farther India by the greatest river in those parts (for it has a breadth of thirty stadia), but it adjoins the rest of India which Alexander had conquered, and which was well watered by rivers and highly renowned for its prosperous and happy condition. –Diodorus Siculus (1st century AD). Quoted from Ancient India as Described in Classical Literature, John W. McCrindle, p. 201.’

Stone Age tools dating back 20,000 years have been excavated in the state.Remnants of Copper Age settlements in the Bengal region date back 4,000 years’

The Vanga Kingdom was an ancient seafaring thalassocracy during the Late Vedic period on the Indian Subcontinent, which originated in the region of Bengal. The boundary of the kingdom was naturally formed by the Padma and Bhagirathi rivers in the West, North and East; while the South was bounded by the Bay of Bengal. Its contemporary neighbouring states include SuhmaAngaPundravardhanaSamatata and Harikela..’

Harikela seems to have been the earliest people.

However ,Bhagadatta seems to have been the earliest king of Naraka dynasty ( sub sect ofcChandravamsa,Lunar Dynasty)

He took part in the Mahabharatha war and he is called Asura,powerful and he is referred to from Dravida Desa,South India..

The Angas were a part of these Kingdoms.

Karna was crowned as the King of Anga by Duryodhana.

The power of Angas did not last long and it ended with Bimbisara.

From Bimbisara, the History Of India seems alright except some misinformation about the middle ages.

It may be of interest to note that the Nishadas were also present in the area of Kerala and they were hunters.

Hunters,according to Tamil Classics were the first people who lived in areas in around mountains,Kurinji and Murugan is the God of Kurinji.

Interesting thread.

Shall write on this and more on the tribes/kings who ruled BengalOdisha and Assam.

Reference and citations.






History Of India 1 Ikshvaku To Chandragupta Maurya.

The South Indian  kings trace their ancestry to. Solar ,Ikshvaku Dynasty and also to Lunar dynasty.

The Ikshvahu dynasty frm Treta Yuga ,from million years ago extended upto Dwapara yuga and ended with King Sumitra who was defeated and driven away from Ayodhya.

Then we find continum from that period from Magadha dynasty,which belongs to Lunar Dynasty,Chandravamsa from Bruhatradha.

‘Barhadradha Dynasty Before the Mahabharata War of 3138 B.C.

Most History text books in India begin with Maurya Dynasty and Bimbisara,as if there were no history in india before that period,dismissing them as Legends and hyperbole in the imagination of Poets.

The History conveniently begins prior to Alexander’s invasion of India.

Alexander’s invasion of India is a myth as revealed by Greek historians.

But the real history of India,as revealed by the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana,Mahabharatha,Sanskrit and Tamil literature ,validated by Archeology,foreign literature,especially Greek,Etymological similarities between world languages and Sanskrit and Tamil,Astronomical /Carbon/Infrared dating of artifacts recovered in India and abroad confirm what the Indian texts say.

To understand Indian history,one has to,

Approach Indian texts with open mind,

Verify them with the tools I have mentioned,

Understand that there was no Aryan Invasion,

Sanatana Dharma coexisted with the Tamil culture,which also followedcSanatana Dharma,

There was no North South Divide save the wars between the usual wars between kings,

That the history of India extends to thousands of years,

That the Concept of Time in India is Cyclic and not linear,

There were two major dynasties,Solar and Lunar,Suryavamsa and Chandravamsa and there were many sub dynasties,

The Solar dynasty ,though its ancestor Manu was a Dravidian King,was established in North India,while thexLunar dynasty also flourised in south India,through Ila,Daughter of Manu.

The South Indian  kings trace their ancestry to. Solar ,Ikshvaku Dynasty and also to Lunar dynasty,Chandra vamsa.

The Ikshvahu dynasty frm Treta Yuga ,from million years ago extended upto Dwapara yuga and ended with King Sumitra who was defeated and driven away from Ayodhya.

Then we find continum from that period from Magadha dynasty,which belongs to Lunar Dynasty,Chandravamsa from Bruhatradha.

Lunar, Dynasty,Chandravmsa.image
Lunar dynasty,Chandra vamsa.

‘Barhadradha Dynasty Before the Mahabharata War of 3138 B.C.

1. Barhardradha I :-

According to Mahabharata, Brihadradha-I, the founder of Barhadradha Dynasty was the eldest son of Uparichara Vasu , the seventh in the descent from the Great Kuru, son of Samvarna, a descendant of the Lunar Dynasty (Chandravamsajah) of kings. He founded the kingdom of Magadha probably about 3709 B.C. or 571 years before the Great war of Mahabharata at Kurukshetra between the Pandavas and the Kauravas.

This  battle according to Mahabharata, the important Puranas, and all other ancient Hindu, Bauddha and Jaina authorities and traditions, took place. 36 years before the commencement of the Kaliyuga—the present Yuga.   Kali Yuga  began immediately after the departure of Sri Krishna, son of Vasudeva by Devaki, from this world on the 20th February, 3102 B. C., in the year Pramadhin of the Southern School of Hindu astronomers. (Vide Indian Eras By this author, Kota Venkata Chelam)

Brihadradha married the two beautiful twin daughters of the king of Kasi; and by the blessing of a Rishi, he obtained a most powerful son by name Jarasandha. The king, after installing his mighty son Jarasandha on the throne of Magadha retired into a forest and led an ascetic life. In this context the Mahabharata gave the next prominent dynasty of Jarasandha, leaving some generations of kings in the interval between Brihadradha I and Jarasandha (or Brihadradha II). – (Vide_Mahabharata, Sabha Parva. Adhyayas 14 to 19).

N.B:- The Matsya Purana enumerates all the names of kings between Brihadradha-I and Jarasandha or Brihadradha-II Jarasandha, son of Bhuvana was the 15 th in descent from Kuru and the tenth from Brihadradha-I, the founder of the Magadha Dynasty of kings. The following table shows the order of descent according to Matsya Purana. (Chapter 59):-

1. Samvarna

2. Kuru (The founder of the Kaurava Dynasty who removed his capital from Prayaga to Kurukshetra.)

3. Sudhanvan, Parikshit, Prajana, Jaghnu or Johnu or Yaju

4. Suhotra.

5. Chyavana

6. Krimi (or Kriti)

7. Chaidya or Uparicharavasu or Pratipa

8. (1) Brihadradha-I thefounder of the Magadha Dynasty.(3709 B.C.)

9. (2) Kusaagra

10. (3) Vrishabha or Rishabha.

11· (4) Pushpavat or Punyavat

12. (5) Pushpa or Punya

13. (6) Satyadhrithi or Satyahita.

14. (7) Sudhnvan II or Dhanusha.

15. (8) Sarva

16. (9) Bhuvana or Sambhava.

I7. (10)Brihadradha II or Jarasandha.

http://trueindianhistory-kvchelam.blogspot.in/2009/08/kings-of-magadha-before-great.html )

Visit the above site which is very informative.

‘The Hindu Mahabharata calls Brihadratha the first ruler of Magadha. King Bimbisara of the Haryanka dynasty led an active and expansive policy, conquering Anga in what is now West Bengal.
The death of King Bimbisara was at the hands of his son, Prince Ajatashatru. King Pasenadi, king of neighbouring Kosala and brother-in-law of King Bimbisara, promptly retook the gift of the Kashi province.
Accounts differ slightly as to the cause of King Ajatashatru’s war with the Licchavi, an area north of the river Ganges. It appears that Ajatashatru sent a minister to the area who for three years worked to undermine the unity of the Licchavis. To launch his attack across the Ganges River, Ajatashatru built a fort at the town of Pataliputra. Torn by disagreements the Licchavis fought with Ajatashatru. It took fifteen years for Ajatashatru to defeat them. Jain texts tell how Ajatashatru used two new weapons: a catapult, and a covered chariot with swinging mace that has been compared to a modern tank. Pataliputra began to grow as a center of commerce and became the capital of Magadha after Ajatashatru’s death.’

Haryanka dynasty (c. 600 – 413 BCE)Edit
Bhattiya or

Bimbisara (544-493 BCE)

Ajatashatru (493-461 BCE)




Shishunaga dynasty (413–345 BCE)Edit
Shishunaga (413–395 BCE)

Kakavarna Kalashoka (395–367 BCE)

Mahanandin (367–345 BCE)
Nanda Dynasty (345–321 BCE)Edit
Mahapadma Nanda Ugrasena (from 345 BCE), illegitimate son of Mahanandin, founded the Nanda Empire after inheriting Mahanandin’s empire








Dhana Nanda (Agrammes, Xandrammes) (until 321 BCE), overthrown by Chandragupta Maurya


From Bimbisara to current day,the History of India is clear and can be studied,though some misinformaion about middlecages remain.

I have traced the Dynasties in Northvand shall write about the Dynasties of South India,including Andhra Ikshvakus and Tamils.

I have taken references to Sanskrit and Tamil among Indian languages as I know only these two.






No Ban On Beef Eating, Read Notification Here. Directive by Supreme Court.

There is no ban on beef eating. Read the notification that has been issued under the directive of the Supreme Court of India.

People take to streets without knowing what they are fighting for.

People are engaging in Beef eating festivals stating that individual freedom is at stake and this is in violation of the Constitution.

There is no ban on beef eating.

Notification in English.


Read the notification here in Hindi.


Under a notification, titled the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Regulation of Livestock Markets) Rules, 2017, those who wish to sell cattle — bulls, cows, buffaloes, steers, heifers and camels — may do so only after they formally state that the animals have not been “brought to the market for sale for slaughter”.

Verification of buyers

At the same time, buyers of cattle at animal markets will have to verify they are agriculturalists and declare that they will not sell the animal/s for a period of six months from the date of purchase.

The rules, notified by the Ministry of Environment, Forest and Climate Change on May 23, demand that buyers “follow the State cattle protection and preservation laws” and “not sacrifice the animal for any religious purpose”. They also prohibit cattle purchased from animal markets being sold outside the State, without permission.

Monitoring committees at the State and district levels will be set up to implement the rules and monitor the functioning of animal markets. Such markets will be identified and registered; any new market that is set up will need the approval of the District Animal Market Monitoring Committee, which will be chaired by the Collector or District Magistrate.

To inhibit smuggling, animal markets may not function within 25 kilometres of a State border and 50 kilometres of an international border.

The notification banning the sale of cattle for slaughter at animal markets under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Regulation of Livestock Markets) Rules, 2017, issued on Friday follows a Supreme Court directive to the government to form an inter-ministerial committee to recommend ways of preventing cattle smuggling.

The SC directive itself was in response to a 2014 writ petition by Gauri Mulekhi of People for Animals.

The committee recommended, among other things, rules to be framed under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1960 to regulate livestock markets.’

Source. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/government-bans-sale-purchase-of-cattle-from-animal-markets-for-slaughter/article18585018.ece

92 Varieties Tamil Nadu Bulls Reason For Cattle Conspiracy.

Many of us think of native, indigenous cattle as one that loiters the road, skinny, sick, eating posters.

We are not aware of our cattle.

Hybrid, Indian cow.
Hybrid and Indian cow

Am providing a list and Link towards the close of this article.

Broadly speaking India has pure breeds numbering 37.

These are classified regionwise.

There are sub classification as well.

For example there are 92 varieties  in Tamil Nadu.

Imagine for the whole of India.

Statistics regionwise is hard to come by.

People from regions may contribute.

Why my sudden interest in Bovines?

It is because of the attempt to eliminate them gradually so that foreign companies can market their Dairy products as a substitute for natural milk.

Instead of finding a solution to improve their yield( though it is higher, but deliberate fudging of statistics showed them as yielding low),steps were taken to crossbreed.

This is not good either for economy or for the nation.

List of 92 Tamil Nadu Cattle.

These are Bulls. Now one can understand the effort to make them extinct.

2. அழுக்குமறையன்
4. ஆளைவெறிச்சான்
5. ஆனைச்சொறியன்
6. கட்டைக்காளை
7. கருமறையான்
8. கட்டைக்காரி
9. கட்டுக்கொம்பன்
10. கட்டைவால் கூளை.

11. கருமறைக்காளை
12. கண்ணன் மயிலை
13. கத்திக்கொம்பன்
14. கள்ளக்காடன்
15. கள்ளக்காளை
16. கட்டைக்கொம்பன்
17. கருங்கூழை
18. கழற்வாய்வெறியன்
19. கழற்சிக்கண்ணன்
20. கருப்பன்

21. காரிக்காளை
22. காற்சிலம்பன்
23. காராம்பசு
24. குட்டைசெவியன்
25. குண்டுக்கண்ணன்
26. குட்டைநரம்பன்
27. குத்துக்குளம்பன்
28. குட்டை செவியன்
29. குள்ளச்சிவப்பன்
30. கூழைவாலன்

31. கூடுகொம்பன்
32. கூழைசிவலை
33. கொட்டைப்பாக்கன்
34. கொண்டைத்தலையன்
35. ஏரிச்சுழியன்
36. ஏறுவாலன்
37. நாரைக்கழுத்தன்
38. நெட்டைக்கொம்பன்
39. நெட்டைக்காலன்
40. படப்பு பிடுங்கி

41. படலைக் கொம்பன்
42. பட்டிக்காளை
43. பனங்காய் மயிலை
44. பசுங்கழுத்தான்
45. பால்வெள்ளை
46. பொட்டைக்கண்ணன்
47. பொங்குவாயன்
48. போருக்காளை
49. மட்டைக் கொலம்பன்
50. மஞ்சள் வாலன்

51. மறைச்சிவலை
52. மஞ்சலி வாலன்
53. மஞ்ச மயிலை
54. மயிலை
55. மேகவண்ணன்
56. முறிகொம்பன்
57. முட்டிக்காலன்
58. முரிகாளை
59. சங்குவண்ணன்
60. செம்மறைக்காளை

61. செவலை எருது
62. செம்ம(ப)றையன்
63. செந்தாழைவயிரன்
64. சொறியன்
65. தளப்பன்
66. தல்லயன் காளை
67. தறிகொம்பன்
68. துடைசேர்கூழை
69. தூங்கச்செழியன்
70. வட்டப்புல்லை

71. வட்டச்செவியன்
72. வளைக்கொம்பன்
73. வள்ளிக் கொம்பன்
74. வர்ணக்காளை
75. வட்டக்கரியன்
76. வெள்ளைக்காளை
77. வெள்ளைக்குடும்பன்
78. வெள்ளைக்கண்ணன்
79. வெள்ளைப்போரான்
80. மயிலைக்காளை

81. வெள்ளை
82. கழுத்திகாபிள்ளை
83. கருக்காமயிலை
84. பணங்காரி
85. சந்தனப்பிள்ளை
86. சர்ச்சி
87. சிந்துமாடு
88. செம்பூத்துக்காரி
89. செவலமாடு
90. நாட்டுமாடு

91. எருமைமாடு
92. காரிமாடு

The names are based on their color, limbs,behaviour.

( list, source.  Copyright rests with the site below. Being published here in public interest with no commercial interest.In case of objections, despite link being provided here to the site, the quoted list will be removed if objection is received)  http://tamil.eenaduindia.com/TravelTime/DiscoverIndia/2017/01/16190830/list-of-native-bull-variety.vpf  )

Native cow varities. Source. http://www.nddb.org/information/stats/pop

Last updated: April 05, 2016
Livestock Population in India by Species
(In Million Numbers)
Species 1951 1956 1961 1966 1972 1977 1982 1987 1992 1997 2003 2007$ 2012
Cattle 155.3 158.7 175.6 176.2 178.3 180.0 192.5 199.7 204.6 198.9 185.2 199.1 199.9
Adult Female Cattle 54.4 47.3 51.0 51.8 53.4 54.6 59.2 62.1 64.4 64.4 64.5 73.0 76.7
Buffalo 43.4 44.9 51.2 53.0 57.4 62.0 69.8 76.0 84.2 89.9 97.9 105.3 108.7
Adult Female Buffalo 21.0 21.7 24.3 25.4 28.6 31.3 32.5 39.1 43.8 46.8 51.0 54.5 56.6
Total Bovines 198.7 203.6 226.8 229.2 235.7 242.0 262.2 275.7 288.8 288.8 283.1 304.4 299.6

Rama Called Buddha A Thief?Rubbish

But there are some well meaning people who do not understand Sanskrit propagate Hinduism do more harm to Hinduism than good.

One such is a piece in Quora where the author states that Lord Rama called Buddha a Thief!

And the article quotes Ramayana of Valmiki.

The harm the Invaders inflicted on Indians and Hindu culture is unimaginable.

Right from Max Mueller,to today’s secular authors.

But there are some well meaning people who do not understand Sanskrit propagate Hinduism do more harm to Hinduism than good.

One such is a piece in Quora where the author states that Lord Rama called Buddha a Thief!

And the article quotes Ramayana of Valmiki.

Shankaracharya on Reality in Brahmasutra

And the author asserts  that there have been interpolations in the Rmayana and people should be careful in reading the Ramayana!

No doubt there have been interpolations in The Ramayana and people are aware of it

Buddha on Reality.Image credit

And one who knows Sanskrit and History also knows how to sift the chaff from the grain.

In the meanwhile, people who very little of Sanskrit mus refrain from writing on these issues without adequate knowledge of Sanskrit and History.

In the present case, the term Buddha means one who discusses things intellectually and nothing more,.

The term Buddha also means enlightened one according Buddhism.

So when the term Buddha is used in the Ramayana  it is in the sense of one who discusses things  as an Intellectual.

Buddha is venerated as a Great Philosopher  for His interpretation of Reality is as aspect of Brahman.

The Sunyavada of Buddhism is very close to Advaita, though not similar.

“Valmiki Ramayana mentions Buddha in bad light.

Valmiki Ramayana has divisons called Kandas like Bala Kanda , Ayodhya kanda , Yuddha kanda etc.

Bala kanda deals with the balyam i.e childhood of sri rama. Ayodhya kanda,  deals mainly with events that happened after the Rama getting married i.e preparation for coronation of Rama and Rama leaving Ayodhya.

In the beginning of Ayodhya kanda Rama was made to leave kingdom resulting in cascade of event like death of Dasaratha death , recalling of Bharatha urgently from his uncles kingdom and now Bharatha comes back to Ayodhya and comes to know about his mothers wishes , Rama’s exit to forests and death of his father .  He feels very sad for the things that happened and now he thinks about going to forest with many important people like his mothers, his ministers , soldiers etc to persuade rama to accept the Ayodhya kingdom and rule as the king.

After meeting Rama the screen play starts, one by one starts requesting Rama to return to Ayodhya  using their oratory and logical skills and  now comes the turn of Jabali i.e one of the ministers of Ayodhya kingdom. In the replay given to Jabali shunning his logical arguments Rama criticises Buddha.

In Ayodhya Kandas chapters called Sargaa. In ayodhya kanda in 109th sarga  has many poems and in the 34 poem Rama calls Buddha as theif and abuses his religion as atheistic  and bad.

Here is the text:

यथा हि चोरः स तथा हि बुद्ध |

स्तथागतं नास्तिकमत्र विध्हि |

तस्माद्धि यः शङ्क्यतमः प्रजानाम् |

न नास्ति केनाभिमुखो बुधः स्यात् २-१०९-३४


yathaa hi choraH sa tathaa hi buddha |
stathaagataM naastikamatra vidhhi |
tasmaaddhi yaH shaN^kyatamaH prajaanaam |
na naasti kenaabhimukho budhaH syaat 2-109-34( Valmiki Ramayana, Ayodhya Kanda,Sarga 109. Sloka 34)

34. yathaahi tathaa hi= It is an exact state of the case; saH= that; buddhaH= a mere intellection; choraH= (is deserves to be punished) as a thief; viddhi= and know; naastikam= an atheist; atra= here; tathaagatam= to be on par with a mere intellectual; tasaat= therefore; yaH= he who; shaN^kya tamaH= is the most suspectable; prajaanaam= (should be punished in the interest of) the people; na syaat= In no case; buddhaH= should a wise man; abhimukhaH= consort; naastikaa= with an atheist.

‘In sarga 110 & shloka 34 of Ayodhyakanda Rama saysto  Bharata, ” Buddha & his followers are thieves. They don’t believe  in God. It is better to be away of them.”

तस्य ज्येष्ठो असि दायादो राम इत्य् अभिविश्रुतः |
तद् गृहाण स्वकम् राज्यम् अवेक्षस्व जगन् नृप || ३४

34. asi = you are; jyeSThaH = the eldest son; tasya = of that Dasaratha; abhivishrutaH = very well known; raama iti = as Rama; daayaadaH = the heir who can claim over the inheritance; nR^ipaiH = O; king!; tat = for that reason; gR^ihaaNa = take over; svakam = your; raajyam = kingdom; avekSasva = look after; janam = your people.

“You are the eldest son of that Dasaratha, very well-known as Rama, the heir who can claim over the inheritance. O, King! Hence, take over your kingdom and look after your people there.”

“It is an exact state of the case that a mere *intellection deserves to be punished as it were a thief and know an atheist to be on par with a mere intellectual. Therefore he is the most suspectable and should be punished in the interest of the poeple. In no case should a wise man consort with an atheist.”

* It is the word that is responding to the chanllenge, which we call intellection. Truth/God is very subtle. A mind that is caught in the net of words/arguments cannot understand truth/God.




Indian National Anthem on George IV Tagore Replies

There is a view that the Indian National Anthem ,Jana Gana Mana was wrttien by Rabindranath Tagore in praise of King George IV.

Rabindranath Tagore who wrote The Indian National Anthem. 

I had written on this.

Tagore had replied  to this criticism  thus,

Tagore was a premier literary figure when Emperor George V and Empress Mary came to the Delhi durbar of 1911. In this context a few royalists asked him to compose a song in praise of the monarch. In answer, Tagore wrote to his friend P.B. Sen thus: “…A certain high official in His Majesty’s service, who was also my friend, had requested that I write a song of felicitation towards the Emperor. The request simply amazed me. It caused a great stir in my heart. In response to that great mental turmoil, I pronounced the victory in Jana Gana Mana(abbreviated, JGM) of that Bhagyavidhata [god of destiny] of India who has from age after age held steadfast the reins of India’s chariot through rise and fall, through the straight path and the curved. That Lord of Destiny, that Reader of the Collective Mind of India, that Perennial Guide, could never be George V, George VI, or any other George. Even my official friend understood this about the song. After all, even if his admiration for the crown was excessive, he was not lacking in simple common sense…”

The song rendered at the Calcutta session of the Indian National Congress that year. The same day, another song, written in praise of the emperor, was also sung. Sections of the press messed up the reporting, and thus started the confusion, that has since persisted.

During his lifetime Tagore was asked more than once about JGM being written in praise of the emperor. His reply was: “I should only insult myself if I cared to answer those who consider me of such unbounded stupidity as to sing in praise of George IV or George V as the Eternal Charioteer leading the pilgrims on their journey through countless ages of the timeless history of mankind.”



I am unable to find a clear statement that Tagore had not written the song in praise of King George IV.

He could have said

‘No, I have not written in praise of King George IV.  The song was written in praise of India’

Instead poetic interpretations ?

Some replies reveal more.

Why Vande Madaram Was Dropped As Indian National Anthem

One should not waste time in trying to tell Muslims what one should do.

They are beyond Nation.

Beyond country’s Laws.

I wrote an article that Indian National Anthem ‘Jana Gana Mana’ written by Rabindranath Tagore was originally written in praise of King George IV.

Vande Madaram by Bankim Chandra Chatterjee.


While there were favorable comments,there have been few criticisms.

I shall write on the explanation provided by Tagore in another post.

In the meanwhile there isca lot of heat with a group calling for Indians to hail India as ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’- Victory unto Bharat(India)’ , Mother.

Predictability Muslims refused this saying that they will not as their Religion forbids worshiping any one other than Allah.


The other side calls them unpatriotic.

During the Freedom Struggle the song Vande Madaram was sung to rouse people and it was quite popular.

There was a concerted move to have this song as Indian National  Anthem.

As expected Muslims objected to this.

Now read on,

But as communalism aggravated, its ‘importance’ got pumped up. The Hindu Mahasabha organised a ‘Vande Mataram Day’ in October 1937. In March 1938, Jinnah wrote: “Muslims all over [India] have refused to accept Bande Mataram… as a binding national anthem.” It was clear the freedom fighters would have to stall these ‘divide and rule’ tactics.

Subhas Chandra Bose and Jawaharlal Nehru approached Tagore for advice. In a remarkable letter to Bose, Tagore wrote: “The core of BM is a hymn to goddess Durga: this is so plain that there can be no debate about it… no Mussulman can be expected patriotically to worship the ten-handed deity as ‘Swadesh’….The novelAnandamath is a work of literature, and so the song is appropriate in it. But, Parliament is a place of union for all religious groups, and there the song cannot be appropriate…” In a post script, he added: “…[S]ince there are strong feelings on both sides, a balanced judgment is essential. In pursuit of our political aims we want peace, unity and good will — we do not want the endless tug of war…”

Not surprisingly, both Tagore and Gandhi came under attack from zealots. However, the national leadership stood firm. By end-October 1937, the Congress Working Committee, which included Nehru, Bose, Vallabhbhai Patel and Abul Kalam Azad, declared that “…[the first two stanzas] described in tender language the beauty of motherland… absolutely nothing in them to which objection could be from the religious or any other point of view…” However, they stated that “[the other stanzas] contain certain allusions and a religious ideology which may not be in keeping with the ideology of other religious groups in India. The Committee recognises the validity of the objection raised by Muslim friends to certain parts of the song… [T]aking all things into consideration therefore, the Committee recommend that wherever the BM is sung at national gatherings only the first two stanzas should be sung with perfect freedom to the organisers to sing any other song of an unobjectionable character…”

A sub-committee was constituted to decide which other songs could be sung at formal gatherings. Thus, while BM remained in use as a slogan, the song per se was sent into ‘retirement’ by the finest of Indians. This was no easy choice, given that many of them had a personal attachment to it. But they were pragmatic enough to banish their ‘musical weapon’ rather than allow the enemy to misuse it.’

This is it.

One should not waste time in trying to tell Muslims what  one should do.

They are beyond Nation.

Beyond country’s Laws.

One cacan not force a guest/ refugee to follow the Nation’s ethos.

For them their ‘Umma’ comes first.


Citation and reference.


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