Indians Righteous Free Never Invaded, Arrian Greek Historian 2 BC

“No Indian ever went outside his own country on a warlike expedition, so righteous were they.”
“Indians do not put up memorials to the dead; but they regard their virtues as sufficient


History of India handed over and is still being taught is filled with inaccuracies and misinformation.

Rulers of India, The British and Mughals were responsible then.

Now we have psudeo secularists.

The first history of India was James Stuart Mill, after of John Stuart Mill, the Mathematician Philosopher.

James Mill wrote the History of India, sitting in England at a salary of one thousand two hundred pounds per year.

He took seven years.

He never visited India.

Yet he asserts that Indians were a barbaric race, steeped in superstions.!

The book begins with a preface in which Mill tries to make a virtue of having never visited India and of knowing none of its native languages. To him, these are guarantees of his objectivity, and he boldly claims –

A duly qualified man can obtain more knowledge of India in one year in his closet in England than he could obtain during the course of the longest life, by the use of his eyes and ears in India.

However, Mill goes on in this preface to say that his work is a “critical, or judging history”, encompassing singularly harsh attacks on Hindu customs and a “backward” culture which he claims to be notable only for superstition, ignorance, and the mistreatment of women.

Other writers and missionaries followed suit to describe in the foulest terms.

Let us see what earlier Historians have to say on India and Indians.

The following excerpt is from the Greek Historian Arrian(2 BC),in His book Indica.

  • The southern Indians resemble the Ethiopians a good deal, and, are black of countenance, and their hair black also, only they are not as snub-nosed or so woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; but the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians in appearance.”
  • “No Indian ever went outside his own country on a warlike expedition, so righteous were they.”
  • “Indians do not put up memorials to the dead; but they regard their virtues as sufficient memorials for the departed, and the songs which they sing at their funerals.”
  • “This also is remarkable in India, that all Indians are free, and no Indian at all is a slave. In this the Indians agree with the Lacedaemonians. Yet the Lacedaemonians have Helotsfor slaves, who perform the duties of slaves; but the Indians have no slaves at all, much less is any Indian a slave.”
  • “The Indians generally are divided into seven castes, the wise men, farmers, herdsmen, artisans and shopkeepers, soldiers, overlookers, and government officials including army and navy officers.”
  • “The Indians in shape are thin and tall and much lighter in movement than the rest of mankind.”

Reference and Citation.
Arrian; Martin Hammond (Translator); John Atkinson (Translator) (2013). Alexander the Great: The Anabasis and the Indica. Oxford University Press. pp. xi–xiv. ISBN 978-0-19-958724-7.

Brahmins Neither Masters Nor Servants, First In Dignity Greek Historian Diodorous 1 BC

My answer to this is that if Brahmins wanted power, Sage Vasishta could have assumed power when Lord Rama was banished to Forest and his brother Bharatha was unwilling to assume charge,

Chanakya, Kautilya did not usurp power from Chandragupta, who would have willingly given

While Indian History was doctored after the arrival of the British, it continues even today, Greek Historians seem to have recorded Indian History with an amount of integrity.

I shall be writing on the description of India by Greek Historians from antiquity.

Herebelow I am quoting the Greek Historian DIODORUS SICULUS, first century BC.

I am quoting the portion that speaks of Brahmins of India.

Brahmins are being vilified for everything in India.

Be it the hiding of the Vedas from Non Brahmin(the same people say Vedas are rubbish!),

Be it the oppression of some communities in India.

And Brahmins are accused of usurping power!

My answer to this is that if Brahmins wanted power, Sage Vasishta could have assumed power when Lord Rama was banished to Forest and his brother Bharatha was unwilling to assume charge,

Chanakya, Kautilya did not usurp power from Chandragupta, who would have willingly given kingdom to Kautilya,

Nor did Aniruddha Brahmaraya usurp power from Sundara Chola who was the father of Rajaraja Chola.

They were class mates and close friends.

Aniruddha was the Prime Minister of Sundara Chola.

Sundara Chola was quite ill in Thanjavur , his eldest son Aditha Karikala was in Kanchipuram his younger son Arulmozhi who later became Rajaraja, was in Lanka fighting enemies.

The smaller kingdoms under Cholas were in turmoil and were intent on breaking up Chola empire, by aligning with Pandy as.

IT was Aniruddha who was instrumental in getting Rajaraja coronoted. Aniruddha was not the only one who was instrumental in Rajaraja there were many including Sembian Madevi, Kundavai,:Aniruddha s contribution was exceptional.

Now let us see what Diodorous Siculus has to say on Brahmins in his work,Bibliotheca historica

The whole multitude of the Indians is divided into seven castes,14 the first of which is formed of the order of the philosophers, which in number is smaller than the rest of the castes, but in dignity ranks first. For being exempt from any service to the state the philosophers are neither the masters nor the servants of the others. 2 But they are called upon by the private citizens both to offer the sacrifices which are required in their lifetime and to perform the rites for the dead, as having proved themselves to be most dear to the gods and as being especially experienced in the matters that relate to the underworld, and for this service they receive both notable p21 gifts and honours. Moreover, they furnish great services to the whole body of the Indians, since they are invited at the beginning of the year to the Great Synod and foretell to the multitude droughts and rains, as well as the favourable blowing of winds, and epidemics, and whatever else can be of aid to their auditors. 3 For both the common folk and the king, by learning in advance what is going to take place, store up from time to time that of which there will be a shortage and prepare beforehand from time to time anything that will be needed. And the philosopher who has erred in his predictions is subjected to no other punishment than obloquy and keeps silence for the remainder of his life.

Reference and Citation*.html

Nadars Part of Ancient Tamils. Roots of Nadar Community

There is no history evidence to suggest that Nadars being called as Chanars before Caldwell.

They could have been a part of Ezhava of present Kerala, whose history is also distorted.

Kerala was a part of Tamil Kingdom, Chera.

Ancient Tamil lands were forty nine and they were called Nadu.

One of the canards is that the present prosperous community of Nadar, are from Sri Lanka, they were mere hunters, toddy tappers and were at the bottom of the caste system in India.

IT is spread that Nadars were Chanars, சா ணா ர் and later became Nadars.

That they were from the Ezhava community of the present Kerala.

That they were denied equal status with other Castes.

I am unable to find any authentic reference to the word Chanars in Tamil linking Nadars to them.

Etymological lyrics speaking, Chanars means one who sharpens weapons and Ironmonger.

There is no evidence of Nadars being involved in this activity.

Secondly Nadars are called as people who were tree tappers, Palm Tree tappers for native Drink, Kal, கள்.

IT is also stated that they occupied the mountainous region called Kurinji, குறிஞ்சி and were hunters.

If this is wholly true, then they should have been in நெய்தல், Sea and adjoining areas, as classified in Tamil Classics.

Even today we find Nadars in the coastal region around Thiruchendur, Thoothukudi and areas not too far from the sea, like விருதுநகர்.

One does not find their concentration in the hilly regions at all.

The whole misinformation was started by Robert Caldwell, an Irish Missionary to divide Hindus along caste lines.

நாடார் பற்றி கால்டுவெல்

கால்டுவெல் சாணார்கள் பிறப்பிலே பழங்குடியினர் என்கிறார். மேலும், சாணார் சமூகத்தவர்கள் இலங்கையிலிருந்து பனையேறிப் பிழைப்பதற்காக வந்தவர்கள் என்றும், இந்து சமயத்தின் உயர்ந்த நிலையில் இருந்ததேயில்லை என்றும், சிறுதெய்வ வழிபாட்டினையே பின்பற்றி வருகிறார்கள் என்றும் கூறுகிறார். ஒடுக்கப்பட்ட சாதிகளில் உயர்ந்த அடுக்குகளைச் சேர்ந்தவர் என்றோ, மத்திய ஜாதிகளில் கீழடுக்கைச் சேர்ந்தவர்கள் என்றோதான் இவர்களை வர்ணிக்க முடியும் என்கிறார் கால்டுவெல்.’


There is no history evidence to suggest that Nadars being called as Chanars before Caldwell.

They could have been a part of Ezhava of present Kerala, whose history is also distorted.

Kerala was a part of Tamil Kingdom, Chera.

Ancient Tamil lands were forty nine and they were called Nadu.

One who rules Nadu, land was called Nadan.

IT became Nadar with R was used instead of Nadan, as a term of respect.

These people after Tsunami seems to have stayed back in Dravida Desa , while Vaivaswatha Manu left for North.

His son Ikshvaku founded the Surya Vamsa , Solar Dynasty, while his daughter Ila stayed back in the South, Dravida Desa.

Her dynasty if Chandra Vamsa, Lunar Dynasty, named after her husband.

The word Elam that denotes Tamil land was derived from Ila.

One would find the surname, names Ellala , Ella in Lanka.

The Elamite civilization sprung from Ila dynasty.

Nadar seem to have stayed back in the south, serving Kings.

The small kingdoms under the three Tamil Kingdoms of Cherala Chola and Pandyas had Palm Tree in their Flags.

For instance Pazhuvettarayars under King Rajaraja Chola.

There is a view that Pazhuvettarayars could be Vanniars.

After the flood, there was migration to other areas and owing to diminishing power of Nadar after Pallavas, these people might have taken the profession of Tree Tapping as Palm was abundant in the areas where they settled.

As Kerala was earlier part of Tamil Kingdom and Ezhavas were Tamils in the ancient days, and Tamils had settled in Lanka, it is incorrect to say that Nadar are from Lanka.

They are a part of Tamil polity since Lunar Dynasty

They were a sub clan of Pandy as and மகாவம்சம் records Nadar as Fighters in the army and also administrators .

நாடார்களின் தோற்றம் குறித்த தொன்மக்கதை, தேவகன்னிகளுக்கும் சத்திரிய மகரிஷிக்கும் பிறந்த ஏழு குழந்தைகளைப் பத்திரகாளி அம்மன் எடுத்து வளர்த்ததாகவும் அவர்களிலிருந்தே நாடார் சமூகம் தோன்றியதாகவும் சொல்கிறது. இதன் அடிப்படையில் நாடார்களைப் பத்திரகாளியின் மைந்தர்கள் என்று அழைப்பது உண்டு. நாடார்களின் தோற்றம் குறித்துப் பலர் ஆராய்ந்து அறிய முயன்றும் தெளிவான முடிவுகள் எதுவும் எட்டப்படவில்லை. 19ம் நூற்றாண்டில் நாடார்களைக் குறித்து ஆய்வு நடத்திய கால்டுவெல், நாடார்கள் வட இலங்கையில் இருந்து குடி பெயர்ந்தவர்கள் என்னும் கருத்தை முன்வைத்தார். ஆனால் இந்தக் கருத்தைப் பலர் ஆதரிக்கவில்லை. குறிப்பாக நாடார் சமூகத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஆய்வாளர்கள் பலர் நாடர்கள் முன்னர் உயர் நிலையில் இருந்தவர்கள் என்றும், அவர்களின் தோற்றம் அரச குலத்தவரோடு தொடர்புடையது என்றும் கருத்துக்களை முன்வைத்துள்ளனர். மதுரையை ஆண்ட பாண்டியர்கள், இவர்களுள் ஒரு உட்பிரிவினர் எனவும் அவர்கள் கூறினர். மகாவம்சத்தில் காணப்படும் குறிப்புகளும் சேர அரசில் பணிபுரிந்தவர்களின் பல பெயர்களும் நாடார்கள் போர்வீரர்கள் என்பதை உறுதி செய்கின்றன என்பதும் அவர்களது கருத்தாக இருந்தது.

நாயக்கர்களின் படையெடுப்பால் அதிக இன்னல்களுக்கு ஆளான நாடார்கள், தங்கள் பூர்வீக பூமிகளான சிவகாசி, கமுதி, விருதுநகர், மதுரை ஆகிய ஊர்களைவிட்டு வெளியேறி திருச்செந்தூர் போன்ற வறண்ட பகுதிகளுக்கு இடம் பெயர வேண்டியதாயிற்று என்றும், அங்கு பனை மரங்களிலிருந்து பதனீர் இறக்கி வாழ்க்கை நடத்த வேண்டிய நிலை ஏற்பட்டது என்று அவர்கள் கருதினர். பதனீர் இறக்கி வாழ்ந்த காலம் இவர்களின் இருண்ட காலமாகக் கருதப்படுகிறது.

இச்சமுதாயத்தினரைக் குறிக்கும் சாணார், நாடார் போன்ற சொற்கள் சான்றார், சான்றோர், நாடாள்வார் ஆகிய சொற்களில் இருந்து மருவியவை போன்ற கருத்துக்களும் முன்வைக்கப்பட்டன. ஆனால் அதற்குரிய நம்பகமான ஆதாரங்களோ ஆவணங்களோ இல்லை.கால்டுவெல் குறிப்பிட்டது போல் நாடார்கள் தாழ்ந்த நிலையில் இருந்தவர்கள் அல்ல என்றும், பதனீர் இறக்குபவர்கள் மட்டுமன்றி அவர்களிடையே கற்றறிந்தோரும், போர் வீரர்களும், வர்த்தகரும் இருந்தனர்.

இவர்கள் சேர, சோழ மற்றூம்பாண்டிய மூவேந்தர்களின் வழித் தோன்றர்களாக நாடார்கள் கருதப்படுகிறார்கள். நெல்லை மாவட்டம் கல்லிடைக்குறிச்சியில் கிடைத்த 2 தொல்பொருள் ஆவணங்கள் மூலம் சேர, பாண்டிய மன்னர்கள் ஆட்சிக்காலத்தில் இவர்கள் மிகச்சிறந்த நிர்வாகிகளாக திகழ்ந்தது தெரியவந்துள்ளது. அரசின் வரவு- செலவை அவர்கள் கவனித்ததற்கான ஆவணச் சான்றுகள் உள்ளன.

Legend states that Nadar were brought up by Kali.

Many Nadar families have Kali in the form of Village Deities even today.

Reference and Citation.நாடார்

Some more information at

There are great controversy in fixing up the Sangam periods of the Tamils. Three Sangams are recorded in Tamil literatures. Literary reports are found to indicate that there had been five major Uuzhies (Deluges) by which destructions took place to the Tamils and they had to shift their capitals to different places like Ezhuthenganadu, Ezhukurumpanai naadu, Kavaadapuram, Manavoor, Korkai, Then Madurai, Vada Madurai, etc. Tamils consider that Kumari Kandom which was once connected to the African Continent and a vast landscape, now lying submerged under the Oceans, was their ancestral home. The Tamils were lovers of songs and literature. There were several poets in the Courts of the Tamil Kings. In the Sangam period, there was no ‘Caste system’ as we see today. You could find poets of any tribal origin in the King’s Royal Court. Only the land was divided into four types as Marutham (Plain land), Mullai (forests /gracing land), Neithel (Sea-shores) and Paalai (Sandy land). A mixed terrain, Kurunji, was occupied by Vedar or hunters. The land with people was called “Nadu”. The Chief to protect the land was called Naden(Elangulam) Kaalai , Uuran, Kurumpara Naden, Chenon, etc(Elamkulam). When Kingdoms were formed ‘Naden’ was designated as Ko = the King or the ‘Ruler’ otherwise called “Naden”
In the Samgam period there was no such caste-systems. The people used to go for hunting deer, bull or wild animals. They used to go for fishing. They brought the prey into the community, baked it on fire made on ‘Sandalwood’ spreading its good smell all over the village; ate the meat with soft drinks got from short and tall Palm-trees. The strong and courageous used to tap the sweet juice of the Palmyrah palm and cherished it with the meat or other cooked food. The same man may go for hunting, or to catch fishes for his need. The children used to drink Palm-juice in the tender yellow leaf of the Palm-tree, folded as a cup. Their houses were roofed by dry leaves of Palmyrah-Palm or Coconut Palm. The children cherished the tender palm-fruits and later made little carts with them and played around, a practice till followed in the South. They used to climb over the heaps of Paddy stack or run behind the playing deers, or run to the nearby river, taking bath, jumping into the waters, singing songs, or playing flutes. The people were a happy jolly lot living life to its full. Agriculture too was known to them. We find the women folk take cooked rice or porridge for their husbands to the field and also they used to drive away the birds coming to spoil the seeds or crops. There was little difference between the hunter, or the man who ploughed the land, or the toddy tapper who brought the sweet Amrit from the tall heavenly tree or the man who looked after the cattle or the one who made the earthen pots. If they caught a big shark from the Sea, they would eat its meat and take its huge Bone, plant it in the open field and sing songs around it, and even worship it as their lucky god. It was a happy one community for quite a long time. Their ‘Ruler’ rather the ‘Chief’ was called “NADEN” (the present NADAR) or he was also addressed as “KALAI”, all sons of the same soil of the Palmyrah-Culture.
This great Palmyrah-Culture is seen passing through the Ages, all over the globe. It is seen in the National Flag of Bhishmar (flag of Palm-Tree) one of the Martial Heroes (Asans) of the Indian Epics. It is marked in the life of Lord Rama. It is seen with the great god of Indians, the Vrishni-Kula Krishna. The Culture is found depicted in a number of temples of India. It is seen in one way or the other in several kingdoms of India in the South and also among the Rajputs, extending to the North. It is found marked in the Jaina and Buddhist Culture (Depiction found in Java: Art of Indian Asia). It was seen in the great paintings done by King Ravi Varma of Travancore, picturing Shakunthala (18th century AD – unfortunately this palm-tree from his original painting is being hidden in the later reproductions by the killers of history in the recent years – example: the painting now kept at Trivandrum Temple Museum). Even in the early 1700-s, the great Wooden Palace of the world, the Padmanabhapuram, (earlier name, Puthupparakkal Palace) of Kalkulam, in Kanyakumari district was roofed by good Palm-leaves. It was replaced by the modern ‘Ceramic Tiled Roof’ only in c.1870, by C.M.Vaidyanathan Asan (a Nadar) as the Palace Contractor. (Kanyakumari Aspects & Architects). In the ancient Indian Army of the Tamils and the Cholas, there were three Regiments based on the Palm-tree products (History of Cholas).
In the world history also there is a strong reflection of this Palm Culture. The ancient Israel had a settlement of Warrior Class called Palmachin and their commando units were called “Palmach Brigade” (Introducing Israel). They were dependant on the ‘Date Palms’ equivalent to the Ittanatt branch of the Nadars. According to Herodotus, the originators of the Phoenicians were The Purple trading Toddy Tapers from South Kerala(Herodotus- 408 BC). They were also called the “Palm-Asians”. These Palmasians were responsible for establishing the ‘Palmyra’ city of Italy (Herodotus-400-408 BC). Symbolical to the ‘Fish-Flag’ of the Tamil Pandya Kings, early Israelites had a “Fish-Gate” for them. Moreover, early history of the Jews shows that along with the seven candle sticks and the Trumpet of their symbols, there was depicted a bifurcated ‘Lulub’ (Auluvachy – male) ie., the a small branch of the male flower-stalk of Palm-Tree, was attached to it (St. Thomas in India – A Critical View). So we see in history that the Palmyrah Culture of the great Sangam Period of the Tamils is spread over various Nations of the world and it is not to be ignored at all, whereas it deserves a deeper research in itself. A study of the present NADARS show that they were the Masters of this great Culture in a Multifaceted Arts and Sciences.’

First Only Description of Yogi in Rig Veda, Kesin

This was the first system by Lord Shiva and His disciple Patanjali developed a relatively easy system Asthtanga Yoga.

Shiva was the first to practice Vaasi Yoga and He is called the Adi Yogi the First Yogi.

Yogis are Realized Souls.

Yoga, according to Patanjali, is the ‘Cessation of Modification of Chitta’

Yoga has, Chittavrutthi Nirodhithaha-Patanjali Yoga Sutra.

The control and regulations of the mind and through it, The Consciousness is the goal of Yoga.

There is another earlier system of Yoga.

This is called Vaasi Yoga where, by breath control, Consciousness is directly controlled.

This was the first system by Lord Shiva and His disciple Patanjali developed a relatively easy system Asthtanga Yoga.

Shiva was the first to practice Vaasi Yoga and He is called the Adi Yogi, the First Yogi.

If one repeats Vaasi it becomes Siva.

The system of Patanjali was practised widely.

And we have Siddhas who transcend time and apart from Shiva, the early one was Thirumoolar, a Tamil Siddha, who had written a Sastra Thirumandhiram in Tamil. Thirumoolar is dated around 3000BC.

What do the Vedas say of Yoga?

To my knowledge, there is no reference to Yoga in the Vedas, except a description of a Yogi in the Rig Veda, which is dated around 5000 years ago.

Here is the Kesin Mantra of the Rig Veda which describes a Yogi.


1. HE with the long loose locks supports Agni, and moisture, heaven, and earth:
He is all sky to look upon: he with long hair is called this light.
2 The Munis, girdled with the wind, wear garments soiled of yellow hue.
They, following the wind’s swift course go where the Gods have gone before.
3 Transported with our Munihood we have pressed on into the winds:
You therefore, mortal men. behold our natural bodies and no more.
4 The Muni, made associate in the holy work of every God,
Looking upon all varied forms flies through the region of the air.
5 The Steed of Vāta, Vāyu’s friend, the Muni, by the Gods impelled,
In both the oceans hath his home, in eastern and in western sea.
6 Treading the path of sylvan beasts, Gandharvas, and Apsarases,
He with long locks, who knows the wish, is a sweet most delightful friend
7 Vāyu hath churned for him: for him he poundeth things most hard to bend,
When he with long loose locks hath drunk, with Rudra, water from the cup.

Translation by Rig Veda, tr. by Ralph T.H. Griffith, [1896], at

केश्यग्निं केशी विषं केशी बिभर्ति रोदसी । केशी विश्वं स्वर्दृशे केशीदं ज्योतिरुच्यते ॥१॥
मुनयो वातरशनाः पिशङ्गा वसते मला । वातस्यानु ध्राजिं यन्ति यद्देवासो अविक्षत ॥२॥
उन्मदिता मौनेयेन वाताँ आ तस्थिमा वयम् । शरीरेदस्माकं यूयं मर्तासो अभि पश्यथ ॥३॥
अन्तरिक्षेण पतति विश्वा रूपावचाकशत् । मुनिर्देवस्यदेवस्य सौकृत्याय सखा हितः ॥४॥
वातस्याश्वो वायोः सखाथो देवेषितो मुनिः । उभौ समुद्रावा क्षेति यश्च पूर्व उतापरः ॥५॥
अप्सरसां गन्धर्वाणां मृगाणां चरणे चरन् । केशी केतस्य विद्वान्सखा स्वादुर्मदिन्तमः ॥६॥
वायुरस्मा उपामन्थत्पिनष्टि स्मा कुनन्नमा । केशी विषस्य पात्रेण यद्रुद्रेणापिबत्सह ॥७॥

– Rigveda 10.136, 2nd millennium BCE

The Keśin were long-haired ascetic wanderers with mystical powers described in the Keśin Hymn (RV 10, 136) of the Rigveda (an ancient Indian sacred collection of Vedic Sanskrithymns).The Keśin (“long-haired one”) are described as homeless, traveling with the wind, clad only in dust or yellow tatters, and being equally at home in the physical and the spiritual worlds. They are on friendly terms with the natural elements, the gods, enlightened beings, wild beasts, and all people. The Keśin Hymn also relates that the Keśin drink from the same magic cup as Rudra, which is poisonous to mortals.

The Kesin hymn of the Rigveda is the earliest evidence of yogis and their spiritual tradition, states Karel Warner. The Hindu scripture Rigveda uses words of admiration for Kesins.śin

First Tribes Dynasties of The World Solar Lunar Origin Details

People while reading Indian history were and still are dependent on foreign sources with agenda.

Most of the history taught in India is dis/misinformation by the rulers for over five hundred years.

This includes the Mughals and the British.

The Mughals had to keep their religion and empire intact and hence taught what was in their interests.

The Britishers had the same approach.

When one reads History one has to take facts as they are, bearing in mind the geographical differences between then and now, the conditions existing during the period of study.

Unfortunately in India both seem to be at a premium.

People while reading Indian history were and still are dependent on foreign sources with agenda.

Most of the history taught in India is dis/misinformation by the rulers for over five hundred years.

This includes the Mughals and the British.

The Mughals had to keep their religion and empire intact and hence taught what was in their interests.

The Britishers had the same approach.

They went two steps further.

They first divided people based on Religion.

And introduced English. And they had psudeo researchers like Max Mueller to infiltrate Hinduism to make Indians lose respect for their texts.

Some of these Missionaries outwardly Embraced Hinduism and propagated Christianity.

People like Veeramamunivar in Tamil.

The nett result is Indians do not refer Indian texts and even if they do, they do so through English!

So Indian history looks to be confused and looks like fables.

But if one were to study Indian texts diligently with the approach that there was no south, north divide, nor was a linguistic chavunism.

And the land mass of Ancient times was different.

With this, let us look at Indian history.

The first major world war in indiay, called ten Kings war, Dadarjaniya war between two warring groups.

Essentially there were two major tribes or groups in India.

IT is worth remembering that the first Human being was Manuywho belonged to the southern hemisphere, called Dravida டிச.

The term Man is from Manu.

Manu had sons and a daughter.

When a Tsunami struck South, he, along with his son left for Ayodhya.

His son Ikshvaku founded the Surya Vamsa, Solar dynasty.

His daughter, Ila, who was left behind in South, here south meaning from the Saraswathi valley to the present south india, running through the coast of Arabian sea, which was not called thus then.

She married Chandra and had a son Budha.

Then came Puru.

This is the Lunar Dynasty, Chandra Vamsa.

All dynasties of India can be traced back to these two dynasties including the Tamil Kings Chera, Chola and Pandyas.

Please read my articles on Solar, Lunar and Tamil dynasties.

There were sub dynasties like Yadu, Thurvasa.

Some of these migrated outside Bharata kanda and settled around the world.

Hence we find remains of Hinduism everywhere in the world.

India’s name Bharat or Bharat-Varsh is named after a descendant of the Puru dynasty King Bharat.

There were two main Vedic cultures in ancient India. The first was a northern kingdom centered on the Sarasvati-Drishadvati river region dominated by the Purus and the Ikshvakus. The second was a southern culture along the coast of the Arabian Sea and into the Vindhya Mountains, dominated by the Turvashas and Yadus and extending into groups yet further south. These northern and southern groups vied for supremacy and influenced each other in various ways as the Vedas and Puranas indicate. The northern or Bharata culture ultimately prevailed, making India the land of Bharata or Bharatavarsha and its main ancient literary record the Vedas, though militarily the Yadus remained strong throughout history….. ‘

According to Puranic legend the Chandravanshi lineage is:
Brahma -> Atri -> Chandra -> Budha (married to Manu’s daughterIla) -> Pururava -> Ayu -> Nahusha -> Yayati -> Puru andYadu

King Yayati’s elder son Yadu had officially lost the title to govern by his father’s command since he had refused to exchange his youth with his father. Thereby, he could not have carried on the same dynasty, called Somvanshi. Consequently, the generations of King Puru, Paurav or Puruvanshi were the only one to be known as Somvansa.

Yayati divided up his kingdom into five quarters (VP IV.10.1708). To Turvasha he gave the southeast (Bay of Bengal); to Druhya the west Gandhara; to Yadu the south (By Arabian sea); to Anu the north Punjab; and to Puru the center (Sarasvati region) as the supreme king of Earth’

Luna dynasty (also known as Somavansha, Chandravansha and as Ailas) is one of the four principal houses of the Kshatriya varna, or warrior–ruling caste.This legendary dynasty was descended from the moon (Soma or Chandra), ,

According to the Mahabharata, the dynasty’s progenitor Ilaruled from Prayag, while his son Shashabindu ruled in the country of Bahli.

The great sage Vishvamitra the son of king Gadhi of Kanyakubja dynasty was a descendant of Amavasu, the son of Pururava of Chandravansha clan.

Ila’s descendants, the Ailas (also known as Chandravansha), were a dynasty of kings of ancient India. Pururavas, the son of Budha was the founder of this dynasty.

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Brahmins Who Accepted Dakshina From Rama Sanadh Brahmins. Saryupareen Of River Saryu

We spend so much for movies and entertainment.

Now to the issue on hand.

There is a group of Brahmins who accepted Dakshina from Lord Rama.

They were the priests who welcomed Lord Rama when he returned to Ayodhya after killing Ravana.

About a year back one reader asked me that he was informed by his grandfather that they were the priests of Lord Rama and whether I could provide more information on this.

As far as I knew Vasishta was Ikshvaku Dynasty Guru and there was Viswamitra who took Rama and Lakshmana and initiated the Bala and Adi Bala Mantras.


However I told him that I would check and provide when I get the information.

This is it.

Brahmin is one who has realized the Reality, Brahman.

He is selfless and dedicated to the welfare of others.

This sloka tells us who a Brahmin is.

“Adhyaapanam Adhyayanam
Yajanam Yaajanam Tathaa
Daanam Pratigraham Chaiva

Adyayanam-Pracctice of reciting the Vedas, with meaning.

Adhyaapnan-Teaching of the Vedas along with the Astras(scientific Arms) and Satras(Ordinary weapons of war)

Yajanam-performance of the Yagnas and Yagas.

Here there is a small difference between a Yagna and Yaaga.

While a Yaaga is performed with a specific wish to be fulfilled, as a Puthra Kameshti for begetting a Good offspring, Yajna is performed expecting no results, performed because it has to be performed as sanctioned by the Vedas.


Dakshina is an offering made by the receiver to Brahmins and they are expected to be contented with what is offered.

With changed economic and social structure this is not in practice and we have Brahmins who demand Dakshina.

Many are disappointed with this attitude.

My view is that what they do now is not correct for Brahmin.

However, if people do not provide them economic security, which was provided in earlier days right from King’s to common Man, how would a Brahmin live?

Worse still why would they let their children become the torch bearers of the Vedas?

So we see Brahmins taking up all professions, including me, fo economic security.

My submission is that we offer fair Dakshina to Brahmins to help them economically secure so that our Culture thrives.

We spend so much for movies and entertainment.

Now to the issue on hand.

There is a group of Brahmins who accepted Dakshina from Lord Rama.

They were the priests who welcomed Lord Rama when he returned to Ayodhya after killing Ravana.

They are Sanadh Brahmins.

Just as there are Brahmins whose origins are associated with Rama, such as the Saryuparins that came into being when Rama reached Ayodhya after slaying Ravana, and the Sanadhs, who recall their acceptance of dakshina from Ramchandra on the victory over Ravana, there are also Brahmins that are associated in origin from Ravana, and these include the Daves (of Mudgal gotra) of Rajasthan, as well as Gujarat’s Sachoras, the Kanyakubjas of Vidisha in Madhya Pradesh, and the Brahmins of the Kaumara sub-gotra of the Vasistha gotra


‘Sanadya Brahmin or Sanadh Brahmin, or Sanah Brahmin or Sanidya Brahmin are a community of Brahmins. Their main concentration is in Western Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh area of India.’ wiki.

The Hindi poet Keshavdas was a Sanadhya, and praised his community in his Ramachandran.

Saryupareen Brahmins.

Saryupareen Brahmins , also known as Sarvarya Brahmins or Saryupariya Brahmins, are North Indian Brahmins residing on the eastern plain of the Sarayu near Ayodhya. Saryupareen families such as the Chaturvedi, Tripathi, Tiwari, Trivedi, Dwivedi, Pandey, Mishra,Shukla, and Dikshit were involved solely in the research and analysis of Vedas and other religious texts, performing yajnas and other religious practices. These families did not perform ‘pujas for benefactors and did not take dakshinas or donations against such prayers. Hence they were considered to be solely devoted to the quest of learning about the Vedas and spreading knowledge rather than benefiting in any way through benefactors. Along with the other Pancha-Gauda Brahmin communities, the Saryupareen traditionally preserve the customs and traditions as prescribed by ancient Hindu canons.
In the 19th (held at Prayag) and 20th (held at Lucknow) national convention of Kanyakubja Brahmins by Kanyakubja Mahati Sabha, in 1926 and 1927 respectively, it appealed for unity among Kanyakubja Brahmins whose different branches included Sanadhya, Pahadi, Jujhoutia, Saryupareen,Chattisgarhi, Bhumihar Brahmins and different Bengali Brahmins.
The Saryupareen generally dwell in the states of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh with a significant amount of them concentrated in the eastern region of Uttar Pradesh known as Purvanchal. There are also minority Saryupareen communities in Mauritius, where Bhojpuri is a commonly spoken language and the Caribbean.


“Kanyakubj Vanshavali” mentions five branches of Kanyakubja Brahmins as Saryupareen, Sanadhya, Bhumihar, Jujhautiya and Prakrit Kanaujia:
Saryupari Sanadhyashcha Bhumiharo Jijhoutayah
Prakritashcha Iti Panchabhedastasya Prakartitah
These Brahmins are divided into 26 categories
Gautama, Sandilya,Vashista, Parashara,Kaundinya,Garga, Udbahu, Upamanyu, Maunas, Kanva, Vartantu, Bhrigu, Agastya, Kaumasya,Galava, Kasyapa, Kaushika, Bhargava, Savarnaya, Atri, Katyayana, Angiras, Vatsa, Sankritya Jamadagni, Punah. Other than above gotras 1. Krishanatraya, 2. Ghritakausika, 3. Margeya are called mishrit (combined) gotra. However, 261 gotras are mentioned in some source.

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Mahabalipuram Five Thousand Years Old Archeology Finds

Ancient mariners considered this place the land of the Seven Pagodas. There are others who think that Mahabalipuram suffered from a great flood between 10,000 and 13,000 BCE.

Anything found by archeology and experts that is older than 5000 years ago is not encouraged in India.

The reason is the assumption that Indian history beyond this date is fictitious and the blind acceptance of the date of the Rig Veda at 5000 BC Rig Veda being the oldest literature.

Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu is dated twenty thousand years ago. A million year old advanced Tamil civilization site is near Chennai.

Jwalapuram, In Andhra is 74,000 years old.

I have written on these and many more.

These findings have surfaced due to the efforts of private researchers.

Mahabalipuram is assigned Around seventh century AD because of Pallava Dynasty.

However Mahabalipuram is much older.

Mahabalipuram’s early history is completely shrouded in mystery. Ancient mariners considered this place the land of the Seven Pagodas. There are others who think that Mahabalipuram suffered from a great flood between 10,000 and 13,000 BCE. Controversial historian Graham Hancock was one of the core members of a team of divers from Indian National Institute of Oceanography and the Scientific Exploration Society based in Dorset, UK who surveyed the ocean bed near Mahabalipuram in 2002 CE. He is more inclined to believe the flood theory. His exploration also afforded him a fair glimpse of the vast extent of submerged ruins of the city. After his underwater exploration, he reportedly commented, “I have argued for many years that the world’s flood myths deserve to be taken seriously, a view that most Western academics reject … But here in Mahabalipuram, we have proved the myths right and the academics wrong.”

Source. Ancient History Encyclopedia

The SES announced: “A joint expedition of 25 divers from the Scientific Exploration Society and India’s National Institute of Oceanography led by Monty Halls and accompanied by Graham Hancock, have discovered an extensive area with a series of structuresap that clearly show man made attributes, at a depth of
5-7 meters offshore of Mahabalipuram in Tamil Nadu.
“The scale of the submerged ruins, covering several square miles and at distances of up to a mile from shore, ranks this as a major marine-archaeological discovery as spectacular as the ruined cities submerged off Alexandria in Egypt.”
India’s NIO said in a statement: “A team of underwater archaeologists from National Institute of Oceanography NIO have successfully `unearthed’ evidence of submerged structures off Mahabalipuram and established first-ever proof of the popular belief that the Shore temple of Mahabalipuram is the remnant of series of total seven of such temples built that have been submerged in succession. The discovery was made during a joint underwater exploration with the Scientific Exploration Society, U.K.”
NIO said:
Underwater investigations were carried out at 5 locations in the 5 – 8 m water depths, 500 to 700 m off Shore temple.
Investigations at each location have shown presence of the construction of stone masonry, remains of walls, a big square rock cut remains, scattered square and rectangular stone blocks, big platform leading the steps to it amidst of the geological formations of the rocks that occur locally.
Most of the structures are badly damaged and scattered in a vast area, having biological growth of barnacles, mussels and other organisms.
The construction pattern and area, about 100m X 50m, appears to be same at each location. The actual area covered by ruins may extend well beyond the explored locations.
The possible date of the ruins may be 1500-1200 years BP. Pallava dynasty, ruling the area during the period, has constructed many such rock cut and structural temples in Mahabalipuram and Kanchipuram.
The last claim is questioned by Hancock, who says a scientist has told him it could be 6,000 years old.
Durham University geologist Glenn Milne told him in an e-mail: “I had a chat with some of my colleagues here in the dept. of geological sciences and it is probably reasonable to assume that there has been very little vertical tectonic motion in this region [i.e. the coastal region around Mahabalipuram] during the past five thousand years or so. Therefore, the dominant process driving sea-level change will have been due to the melting of the
Late Pleistocene ice sheets. Looking at predictions from a computer model of this process suggests that the area where the structures exist would have been submerged around six thousand years ago. Of course, there is some uncertainty in the model predictions and so there is a flexibility of roughly plus or minus one thousand years is this date.”
If that were true, it would be a spectacular development. Previous archaeological opinion recognizes no culture in India 6,000 years ago capable of building anything much.Hancock says this discovery proves scientists should be more open-minded. “I have argued for many years that the world’s flood myths deserve to be taken seriously, a view that most Western academics reject. “But here in Mahabalipuram, we have proved the myths right and the academics wrong.”
Hancock believes far more research needs to be done on underwater relics.“Between 17,000 years ago and 7000 years ago, at the end of the last Ice Age, terrible things happened to the world our ancestors lived in,” he says. “Great ice caps over northern Europe and north America melted down, huge floods ripped across the earth,
sea-level rose by more than 100 meters, and about 25 million square kilometers of formerly habitable lands were swallowed up by the waves.
“Marine archaeology has been possible as a scholarly disciplinefor about 50 years — since the introduction of scuba. In that time, according to Nick Flemming, the doyen of British marine archaeology, only 500 submerged sites have been found worldwide containing the remains of any form of man-made structure or of lithic artifacts. Of these sites only 100 — that’s 100 in the whole world! — are more than 3000 years old.”
Hancock, who was understandably resentful about the NIO’s silence in his pivotal role in making the diving expedition happen — SES gave him full recognition — was himself quite generous about who deserved the greatest credit:
“Of course the real discoverers of this amazing and very extensive submerged site are the local fishermen of Mahabalipuram. My role was simply to take what they had to say seriously and to take the town’s powerful and distinctive flood myths seriously. Since no diving had ever been done to
investigate these neglected myths and sightings I decided that a proper expedition had to be mounted. To this end, about a year ago, I brought together my friends at the Scientific Exploration Society in Britain and the National Institute of Oceanography in India and we embarked on the long process that has finally culminated in the discovery of a major and hitherto completely unknown submerged archaeological site.”
Interested readers can visit the following Web sites for more information. The Scientific Exploration Society’s Web site at . And Graham Hancock’s Web site at

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