Cholas Ancestors of Rama?


The genealogy of Manu is very interesting.

Manu is reported to be the first Man.

Hence the name Manusha(Sanskrit),Manithan(Tamil), Man (English).

Manu meditated in Madagascar while a Tsunami struck and His son Ikshvaku left for Ayodhya with his sons.

His son Ikshvaku founded the Ikshvaku dynasty ,the Solar Dynasty , to which Lord Rama belongs.

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But what happened to Manu’s daughters?

A detailed research reveals interesting information.

Manu had a daughter Ila.

She was married to Chandra,Moon and the offspring was Budha.

While many versions of the tale exist, Ila is usually described as a daughter or son of Vaivasvata Manu and thus the sibling of Ikshvaku, the founder of the Solar Dynasty. In versions in which Ila is born female, she changes into a male form by divine grace soon after her birth. After mistakenly entering a sacred grove as an adult, Ila is either cursed to change his/her gender every month or cursed to become a woman. As a woman, Ilā married Budha, the god of the planet Mercury and the son of the lunar deity Chandra (Soma), and bore him a son called Pururavas, the father of the Lunar dynasty. After the birth of Pururavas, Ilā is transformed into a man again and fathered three sons.

In the Vedas, Ilā is praised as Idā (Sanskrit: इडा), goddess of speech, and described as mother of Pururavas. ‘

She begot a son Pururavas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_(Hinduism)

Hence the descendants of this Dynasty were called the Lunar Dynasty, Chandra Vamsa.

The Kuru Dynasty of Mahabharata,which was named after one of the ancestors.

Manu had a grand daughter through his daughter called Dakshina,one meaning of the term is South.

It is probable that she was the founder of the Lunar Dynasty , she was also called Ila.

Ila’s son was called Ellalan,who ruled the south.

Ellalan in Tamil means ‘one who rules the boundaries’

He was a king of the present Sri Lanka.

Mahavamsa of Sri Lanka records that he was a Chola and a noble king.

 

He was also called as Manu Needhi Chola, A Chola King in Dravida Desa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellalan

 

Now there is the famous Emperor Sibi who belonged to Solar Dynasty.

 

His date preceds Rama’s.

‘The words “Kumari Kandam” first appear in Kanda Puranam, a 15th-century Tamil version of the Skanda Purana, written by Kachiappa Sivacharyara (1350-1420).[3] Although the Tamil revivalists insist that it is a pure Tamil name, it is actually a derivative of the Sanskrit words “Kumarika Khanda”.The Andakosappadalam section of Kanda Puranam describes the following cosmological model of the universe: There are many worlds, each having several continents, which in turn, have several kingdoms. Paratan, the ruler of one such kingdom, had eight sons and one daughter. He further divided his kingdom into nine parts, and the part ruled by his daughter Kumari came to be known as Kumari Kandam after her. Kumari Kandam is described as the kingdom of the Earth. Although the Kumari Kandam theory became popular among anti-Brahmin anti-Sanskrit Tamil nationalists, the Kanda Puranam actually describes Kumari Kandam as the land where the Brahmins also reside, where Shiva is worshipped and where the Vedas are recited. The rest of the kingdoms are described as the territory of the mlecchas.[5]

He ruled from the north and conquered the south, defeating his maternal cousins.

This is recorded in the Temple history of Thiruvellarai, temple dedicated to Lord Vishnu as Pundarikaksha.

Please read my detailed article on this.

This Vishnu temple is older than Sri Rangam Ranganatha Temple in Tamil Nadu.

Ramayana records that Vibhishana requested the Idol of Lord Ranganatha from Lord Rama and though Rama gave him, Vishnu,Ranganatha stayed back at Sri Rangam, where He faces Sri Lanka.

So the Cholas were the ancestors of Rama and not the other war around.

(I have written earlier that Cholas were descendants of Rama. As this blog is research oriented I write as I come by evidence. So there is updation and clarification and there is no contradiction.)

Considering the facts,

‘Manu left for the North because of A Tsunami

Tamil is an ancient language of India which runs parallel to Sanskrit.

A Million year old site found near Chennai records an advanced Tamil civilization.

The sunken harbor of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu, which is spoken of in detail in the Tamil Epic Cilappadikaram,is dated 20,000 years ago..

Such an old culture refers to Sanskrit and Sanskrit in turn refers to Tamil.

Then there is Sage Agastya who is present both in Tamil and Sanskrit.

So is Sage Valmiki who is considered to be a Siddha and has written poems in Tamil.

Such an intimacy between Sanatana Dharma and Tamils, yet there are differences though they present a unified picture!

This has been a question I have been seeking  an answer to.

The fact that Manu was from the South, Dravida.

  • One has to remember that the landmass in those ancient days was different and it has no relevance to what we call as North or South India now…

Lord Rama refused to fight against the Lemurians while he was fighting the Atlantis people saying that Lemurians were his ancestors,

Ravana,s ancestors Malyavan and Kubera were also from the area we now call as Lemuria

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/dravida-lunar-culture-founded-by-ila-manu-daughter-ikshvaku-dynasty/

It may be noted that,

Shiva worship  in the Dravida desa  preceded Vedic  period,

The Tamils though a part of Sanatana Dharma , their methods of worship of Shiva was different,

The Siddha system and Yoga pre date Patanjal’s Yoga Sutra.

The influence of Tamil mode of worship in fareastern countries is greater than Vishnu worship.

 

It stands to reason to postulate thar the Cholas preceded Ramayan and this can also be confirmed by the fact tha Tamil Kings were present during Damayanti’s Swayamvar.

Nala and Damayanti predate Rama.

One may also note thar there is Ila people in Zambia.

A tribe in Cameroon still speak Tamil.

Hittie civilization has its in Tamils.

The genealogy of Manu dynasty .

Maitreya said: Svāyambhuva Manu begot three daughters in his wife Śatarūpā, and their names were Ākūti, Devahūti and Prasūti.

SB 4.1.2: Ākūti had two brothers, but in spite of her brothers, King Svāyambhuva Manu handed her over to Prajāpati Ruci on the condition that the son born of her be returned to Manu as his son. This he did in consultation with his wife, Śatarūpā.

SB 4.1.3: Ruci, who was very powerful in his brahminical qualifications and was appointed one of the progenitors of the living entities, begot one son and one daughter by his wife, Ākūti.

SB 4.1.4: Of the two children born of Ākūti, the male child was directly an incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His name was Yajña, which is another name of Lord Viṣṇu. The female child was a partial incarnation of Lakṣmī, the goddess of fortune, the eternal consort of Lord Viṣṇu.

SB 4.1.5: Svāyambhuva Manu very gladly brought home the beautiful boy named Yajña, and Ruci, his son-in-law, kept with him the daughter, Dakṣiṇā.

SB 4.1.6: The Lord of the ritualistic performance of yajña later married Dakṣiṇā, who was anxious to have the Personality of Godhead as her husband, and in this wife the Lord was also very much pleased to beget twelve children.

SB 4.1.7: The twelve boys born of Yajña and Dakṣiṇā were named Toṣa, Pratoṣa, Santoṣa, Bhadra, Sānti, Iḍaspati, Idhma, Kavi, Vibhu, Svahna, Sudeva and Rocana.

SB 4.1.8: During the time of Svāyambhuva Manu, these sons all became the demigods collectively named the Tuṣitas. Marīci became the head of the seven ṛṣis, and Yajña became the king of the demigods, Indra.

SB 4.1.9: Svāyambhuva Manu’s two sons, Priyavrata and Uttānapāda, became very powerful kings, and their sons and grandsons spread all over the three worlds during that period.

SB 4.1.10: My dear son, Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his very dear daughter Devahūti to Kardama Muni. I have already spoken to you about them, and you have heard about them almost in full.

SB 4.1.11: Svāyambhuva Manu handed over his daughter Prasūti to the son of Brahmā named Dakṣa, who was also one of the progenitors of the living entities. The descendants of Dakṣa are spread throughout the three worlds.’

http://vanisource.org/wiki/SB_4.1:_Genealogical_Table_of_the_Daughters_of_Manu

Please read my articles on Daksha in Antarctica.

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3 thoughts on “Cholas Ancestors of Rama?

  1. This article is a very good research. It dispels the wrong notion in some quarters which try to confine Lord Rama as just a north Indian hero.This article proves that he had his origin in south i.e. Tamil.

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  2. Simply and surly just WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
    Told you afore, saying it again: PLEASE TO MAKE Mee YOUR ‘SISHIYA’ (y)

    From various sources, i am ready to also believe that TAMIL IS OLDER THAN SANSKRIT!!!

    HARI AUM TAT SAT BRAHM

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