Krishna’s Son Pradhyumna’s City In Por Bajin Siberia

Even ancient Hindu mythology states that the forefathers of the Hindus came down in successive waves from Eastern Siberia (Uttara Kuru). Even now, the major tribes in Eastern Siberia bear virtually the same names as the three major grass-roots Indian groups: Saka, Buryat, and Yakuts. In India, they became the Saka (Scythians), Bharats, and Yakhu-Deva (Now the Yadavas


After the Mahabharata War, the Yadava Clan was very nearly destroyed and a Group left Bharatavarsha,now called India .

They spread throughout the world and in the words of Gene D. Matlock,

“Even ancient Hindu mythology states that the forefathers of the Hindus came down in successive waves from Eastern Siberia (Uttara Kuru). Even now, the major tribes in Eastern Siberia bear virtually the same names as the three major grass-roots Indian groups: Saka, Buryat, and Yakuts. In India, they became the Saka (Scythians), Bharats, and Yakhu-Deva (Now the Yadavas). The Yadavas later became the Hebrews or the Phoenicians and Jews, fathering the civilizations of all mankind. As you’ve read in some E-Mails I’ve received, some people hate me for saying that.

The Bharats were the Kashi or founding leadership caste of India. The Sakas (Scythians) became the fathers of Guatama Buddha and also the Mesheks that the Bible talks about. These Mesheks became our American Indians because the Bharats and Yadavas feared them as did our forefathers in Bibleland. As I said in a prior E-Mail, the evangelican Christians, who make much of “Last Days Prophecies,” say that the Meshecks of Russia and Turkey will take us over. However, thousands of real Mesheks (Meshika) cross over into our country every day – and even ancient Mexican myths prophesied this.

By the way, DNA tests proved that these Siberian groups and the Hindus of Northern India share the same DNA. I have even more proof of these matters in my files and references.’

There were inroads made already into the East and the Kingdom was called the Uttara Kuru.


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Toddler Krishna

Uttara Kuru was an ancient kingdom located north of the India. The name Uttara Kuru means the Northern Kurus. The Kurus were a tribe during the Vedic civilization of India. The Uttara Kuru were therefore a population to the north of the Kurus, or north of the Himalayas.

Some historians identify this kingdom as Kyrgistan, a Central Asian Republic. This identification is based on the Mahabharata epic which describes a Kuru warrior Bhishmaabducting three brides from the Kasi kingdom for making them wives of his half-brother Vichitravirya. This same custom of abduction of brides by bridgegroom or his allies for marrying them, still prevails in Kyrgistan. At some point during the reign of Pururavas-Aila (the first king mentioned in the line of lunar dynasty of Indian kings) Uttara Kuru and the Kurus of India could have belonged to the same Kuru Empire. Arjuna collected tribute from Uttara Kuru during his northern military campaign for Yudhisthira’s Rajasuya sacrifice. The epics also mention that they followed a republican constitution with no monarchy.’

Krishna’s son Pradhyumna established a Kingdom in Siberia.


It is believed that a Palace built by him is in Por Bajin.

This hasa striking resemblance to Krishna’s Dwaraka, now excavated off the coast of Gujarat, India

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A fortress, summer palace, monastery, or even an astronomical observatory. Picture: Bajin


‘Por-Bajin is legally treated as one of the most mysterious archaeological monuments of Russia,’ says the official website for the complex, about 3,800km from Moscow.

‘Apparently it was built at the period of the Uighur Khagante nomadic empire (744-840 AD), but it’s not clear what they built a fortress for in such a solitary place, far from big settlements and trade routes. ‘The architecture also produces many questions and it has reminders of a model of an ideal Chinese city-palace.’

Por-Bajin, which translates as ‘clay house’ in the Tuvan language, is located in the very centre of Eurasia, on the borders of Russia and Mongolia. It sits on a small island in a lake high in the mountains between the Sayan and Altai ranges, about five miles west of the isolated Kungurtuk settlement in southern Siberia…

Por-Bajin on the map of Uighur Kaganate. Picture: Irina Arzhantseva jpg
Por-Bajin on the map of Uighur Kaganate. Picture: Irina Arzhantseva


Bajrapur is mentioned as Vajrapur in the Harivamsa Purana. The story of Vajrapur was revealed by the ruler of Jaiselmer in the 1790s to Lt. Col. James Tod, Political Agent of the East India Company, who was researching the Rajput tribes of India which included the Yadhu tribe, of which Sri Krishna and his son Pradyamna are the most well known.

The ruins of the City of Por Bajin located in Siberia bears an uncanny resemblance to the design of Dwarka City, which was the city that Sri Krishna had built earlier.

The Harivamsa Purana describes the conquest of Vajrapuram in the Vishnu Paran section. It says that an a city was built by ‘builder’ Nikumba for King Vajranabha with the name Vajrapuram (later Bajra Pur). The city was an ‘Asura’ city in a far off land.
 In his work ‘The Goose in Indian Literature and Art’ (Volume 2 of Memoirs of the Kern Institute), author Jean Philippe Vogel writes that the ancient Vajrapura was surrounded by a huge lake. Por Bajin, as it is called today, is surrounded by a lake called ‘Tere Kol. ‘Kul’ (कूल) in Sanskrit means ‘lake’, ‘pond’ or ‘pool’. Or else, ‘Tere Kol’ may be a distortion of ‘Tri-Kut’ (त्रिकूट) meaning ‘Three Peaks or Ranges’ which maybe a reference to the surrounding Altay, Sayan and Tochi Mountain Ranges.
Please read my Post on Baikal

 As per various ancient Indian sources, Sri Krishna’s son Pradyamna is known to have extended the Yadhu Empire north of what is present day India. He had attacked the city of Vajrapura and defeated King Vajranabha. Later a truce was called and Pradyamna married the king’s daughter Prabhavati. The poetic versions of this war say that Pradyumna is transported by geese to a land far far away.
Siberia -‘the beautiful land’. Siberia translates as ‘the beautiful land’ from Sanskrit. In Sanskrit ‘Su’ (सु) means ‘good’ or ‘beautiful’ and ‘Pura’ (पुरा), ‘Puri’ (पुरी) or ‘puram’ (पुरम) all mean ‘land’ or ‘city’. It may well have been the beauty of the land, rather than of a woman, that attracted the Yadus to Siberia.

Many rivers in Siberia still bear Sanskrit names – examples: Tara (तारा), Om (ओम्), ‘Apa’ (आप) and the ‘Angara’ (अङ्गार). For a note on the Sanskrit Connection to the names ‘Angara’ and lake ‘Baikal’ click here.

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Uttara Kuru

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18 thoughts on “Krishna’s Son Pradhyumna’s City In Por Bajin Siberia”

  1. everything goes over my head well I believe ya but here’s the problem with all of your post a lot of people need Prof to believe what your saying plus Islam is based on lies and if I’m free I’ll tell ya some secrets lol


  2. This is all speculation of worst kind. Basically disinformation, and is a hindrance to real scholarship and research. You are simply guessing and making wrong assertions that easily proven wrong. For examply all the Yadavas were destroyed purposely by Krsna’s, that included Pradyumna. Such unfounded statements simply bring bad name to this field of study. We don’t need such half baked “scholarship.”


    1. I am aware that the Yadava dynasty was destroyed and I have indicated it in the article.
      Please check my post who remained after the Mahabharata War.Please read all my posts which corroborate each other.I have never said I am a
      ‘Scholar’. If you have any information that contradicts what is written in the Post, kindly provide information with sources and I shall publish it.Regds


  3. As referenced to “The epics also mention that they followed a republican constitution with no monarchy.” The USA was built as a Republic, which is each man/women is king, however we have devolved to a democracy*(demon-cracy), which is rule by controlling group. We lost our Republic in 1860’s and that was the last time the Republic Legislation met. We are now controlled by a corporation in which the American people can not vote for President, as only the corporate members can vote. Beware land of Bharatiya…..stand strong and do not forget your past.


    1. The problem is the alternative to Democracy is frightful. If one were to study History he would find only Oligarchy disguised under different names. I think it is the natural Law , the better equipped control the less fortunate. I have written on Corporations and their evil practices. The only way to bring them down is to shun their products. This is not practical now as we have moved to Money oriented Economy from Batrer system


  4. Dear Sir, Thank you for this valuable information. Just like to ask is this incident mentioned at Mahabharata??? Also whether the prophecy of Bible regarding Russia and Turkey attacking Israel is true?????Please reply. Thanking you once again.


    1. The reference is in Harivamsa Purana. I shall be writing on this Purana.I do not consider Bible to be authentic as it was composed to suit an Emperor Constantine.Some historical references in the Bible are correct like the dead sea scrolls, Beyond the Prophecy business is by the Church to scare people into embracing Christianity. Regds.


  5. It is very much doubt that built by Pradhyumna (Either Mahabharata or Bhavat mentioned he built a city).

    As all Yadvas was killed – yadvas internal fight (include Sri Krishna’s Sons = Pradyumna, Samba etc., Grandsons = Anirudh etc.,) and demise of Lord Sri Krihsna from earth Sri Balaram took sanyasa. Arjuna came to Dwaraka to rescue the city and people but unable to protect them.

    Sri Krishna’s Great Grand Son (Sri Krishna-Pradyumna- Aniruddha- Vajra) departed to North West of Indian Sub Continent. So probably Vajra is the builder of the same.

    Thanks for sharing


    1. I agree,some of it might be true . Having experienced the the fact history of India has been deliberately manipulated and twisted ,its important that we become producers of knowledge and not consumers .


  6. Seems to be an authentic piece of work.
    However, would beg to differ from 2 conclusions drawn by the author –

    1. That the Aryans descended to the present Indian subcontinent from elsewhere
    2. That there was democratic set up in any land where there was Vedic civilization.

    I would like to substantiate my views point wise as follows:

    1. Aryans did not come from anywhere into the present subcontinent. They are the original inhabitants of this place. The conclusion of the author of the present article should be that Vedic civilization was existing at many other far flung places besides the Indian subcontinent. Those interested may please read the article by Mr. Stephan Knapp on the Aryan invasion theory – that says it all.

    2. Democratic set up – irrespective of whether the modern day society likes it or not – the Vedic system of governance is of a Monarchy. The Monarchs were Kshatriya by qualification (and not necessarily by birth.)

    There is a sort of ‘democracy’ in built into this system – however, here the general masses are not the vote bank. It did not work on the modern principle of ‘adult franchise’. Only people who were qualified brahmanas (not by birth, but by qualification) were the ones who would vote, as a part of the monarch’s cabinet – mantri parishad.


    Vishram Gokhale

    Interested readers may contact us on,

    We are a part of an non profit organization called International Vaishnav seva foundation (IVSF) – which is dedicated to the spreading of the glories Vedic civilization throughout the world.


    1. Dear Sir,Thanks for your comments.

      Aryan Invasion of India.
      The Aryan Invasion is a Myth perpetrated by Macaulay and Company led ably by Max Mueller.
      I have written a few articles demolishing the theory.


      2.The Kings of Vedic times were more democratic than the present democracy.
      I have a few posts on this, filed under Hinduism.
      3.Russia was called Sthree Varsha, administered by women.
      4.Taking into consideration the various evidence my view is that there never was no Aryan Dravidian Divide and botht the groups mingled and lived together and the South was the birth place of Sanatana Dharam earlier to Sarasvati Valley, Satyavrata Manu, ancestor of Lord Rama migrated from there to Ayodhya because of a Tsunami.
      I have written a few articles in support of this theory with evidence.
      A Link.
      5.The quoted portion in the article from Matlock is meant only to authenticate the findings in Siberia and no further credence is to be given to the other points he mentions.
      6.The return of the Sananata people from the Artic Home (read Gokhale’s Atcic Home of Hindus), is being propagated as he Invasion of Aryans.


  7. Appear to be true..Bharath varsh is very ancient land and our Indus valley civilisation date back to more than 5000 years back. Our civilisation existed even earlier to 5000 years back,pandit Jawaharlal Nehru in his book Discovery of India has portrayed well the Indus valley Civilization.


  8. The JAIN/BUDDHIST literature never mention LUNAR DYNASTY. Both claim to have descended from IKSHVAKU–which has so many meanings one who looked like SUGAR ROOT/one whose words and observation are the same etc., Hence SAKAS AND SAKYAS are completely different. The RIG VEDIC HYMNS available to us are from THE GREAT SAYANA. There was a churning process during fourteenth century AD which coincided with the collapse of CHOLA/CHALUKYA hegemony and simultaneous ISLAMIC holocaust. Sri Madhvacharya based DWAITA only on the basis of MAHABHARATHA with his magnum opus–MAHABHARATHA THATHPARNAYA NIGRAHA. Thus during fourteenth century AD for unknown reasons LUNAR DYNASTY got precedent over other dynasties and thus whatever related to LUNAR DYNASTY alone remained–thus RIG VEDIC HYMNS referring to LUNAR KINGS alone prevails now. The concept of beginning of KALIYUGA was first fronounced by ARYABHATTA I by a indirect reference to aascension of YUTHISHTRA TO THRONE. It is even more surprisisng that JAIN CHRONICLES adopt YUTHISHTRA’S ascension to throne though he belonged to LUNAR DYNASTY which has little refence in JAIN MYTHOLOGY.It is only rom AIHOLE INSCRIPTION OF PULAKESI I that era commencing as KALIYUGA has been fixed at 3102 BC. But it is a fallacy. During that period EGYPT /MIDDLE EAST AND ASIA MINOR/AEGAN SEA were in full bloom and there is no reference to INDIA. Reference to India came only from late BABYLONIAN QUEEwhofought battles against INDIES and later DARIUS I. Upto the PORTUGESE PERIOD HINDU did not refer to RELIGION but only GEOGRAPHICAL term. Even FA-HIEN AND YUAN TWSANG refer only to DARSANAS and not any particular religion. Upto the Islamic holocaust the entire SOUTH INDIA was dominated by JAINISM and Kalamukha/Maheswara sect ofSAIVISM. The CHOLAS were ardent followers of KALAMUKHA/MAHESWARA SAIVISM while CHALUKYAS were ambivalent-encouraged JAINISM as also CHATURANANA PUNDITHA OF GOKALI MUTT who had relationship with CHOLA KINGDOM since CHATURANANA PUNDITHA was the PRECEPTOR OF CHOLAS FROM PARANTHAKA I TO KULOTHUNGA III.Vaishnavism got prominence only from the ascendency of SRI MADHWACHARYA and to some extent followers of VISHITADVAITA throughout India. Thus relying on PURANAS may not be helpful but self ego can be satisfied. INDIA does not require HISTORY. DUMP all history and INDOLOGY/DRAVIDOLOGY in the three seas. That has nothing to do with my STEADFAST BELIEF/DEVOTION to my own ORDER-SAIVITE/VAISHNAVITE/SMARTHA/KABIR PANTH/ARYA SAMAJIST/CHAITANYAISTS.The North Indian kings particularly RAJASTHAN believes in five types of VAMSAS–SURYA/CHANDRA/AGNI/NAGA/BRAHMA whcih is still relevant. During SATAVAHANA period NAGAS ruled most of India from Kashmir to TULU country. The Brahmanyas also called YAUDDHEYAS initially occupied PUNJAB-HARYANA but spread over to entire India as BRAHMAKSHATRIYAS–THE NANDAS TO KADAMBAS/CHALUKYAS/PALLAVAS all belonged to Brahmakshatriyas. They were also popular in TAMILNADU AS FEUDATORIES–MALAIYAMANS OF BHARGAVA KOTHRA/GREAT BANAS OF VASHISHTA GOTHRA/SAMBUVARAYAS OF BHARATHVAJA GOTHRA/PALUVETTARAIYARS OF MAHARISHI GOTHRA. The great Siruthondar/SATTAN GANAPATHI of VELVIKUDI GRANT KUMUDAVALLI-WIFE OF THIRUMANGAI MANNA all belonged to Brahmakshatriyas. During later period they became KAYASTHAS in North and Seer Kaauneegar in south-Amazingly Sri Vallallar and Swami Vivekananda belonged to the above clan. Even now The naga Brahmins of Mandsaur worship Ravana as their forefather. Unless the history of the above five clans are analysed there will be no worthwhile history.
    since it is very difficult we need not try history with PURANAS. PURANAS are for self realisation and not for past glory.

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