Thiruchendur Subrahmanya Stops Storm Idol Recovered From Dutch ?


What is evidence in history?

When you publish a paper, it gains credibility if it has more sources,links,related articles and more sources that have references as in the earlier references.

This applies to ancient writings, epigraphs and other records as well.

When you look at closely, it boils down to one testimony, by word, preferably contemporary in nature.

Even here if there are more versions, the record becomes questionable.

And History is what one chooses to write.

And Conqueror’s History remains unless one is vigilant enough.

So authenticity of historical facts are dependant on oral evidence which could have been recorded in writing, epigraphs, literature.

Hence at times I am faced with problems like this as I research Indian history.

One such is the information about Thiruchendur Subrahmanya temple,Tamil Nadu.

Thiruchendur Subrahmanya.image.
Thiruchendur Subrahmanya,An Arupadai Veedu

Temple records state that the Idol of the temple was looted by the Dutch and when they set sail with it, they encountered a severe storm and only after throwing away the Idol, the storm ceased.

And the idol was restored through the efforts of Mr.Malayappa Pillai.

I have provided three versions below.

I consider Sri. Neelakanta Sastry as a credible source.

But his report has been quoted by some one in the Tamil magazine, Kalaimagal issue of 1939.

The magazine was founded in 1932.

But the original paper or reference to this issue or the basis on which Sri.Neelakanta Sastry arrived at his conclusion, is not available.

I am not sure whether this information is the usual secularist’ misinformation.

Hence I am unable to arrive at a conclusion.

Those who have information may share.

The Murugan temple at Thiruchendur was occupied by the Dutch East India company from 1646 to 1648, during the course of their war with the Portuguese. The local people tried to free their temple, with no success. The Dutch finally vacated the temple on orders from the Naik ruler. However, while leaving, they removed the idol of the main deity of the temple, and took it with them. While they were sailing away, they encountered a strong storm and realised their mistake of stealing the idol. They dropped the idol in the middle of the sea and seen the storm stopped immediately. Later, Lord Senthil Aandavan appeared in a dream to Vadamaliyappa Pillai, an ardent devotee of Lord Muruga, and revealed the place in the sea where the idol had been abandoned. Vadamlaiyappa Pillai and Athitha Nadar, a sponsor of services in the Thiruchendur temple, went to the spot in a fishing boat and retrieved the idol in 1653. The story is shown in paintings inside the temple.

Reference and citation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiruchendur

Another version.

The Nayak and his agent Vadamalai Pillayyan sent an embassy of four men to the Dutch in to demand the return of the temple idols. The Dutch Governor referred the demand to Dutch Government at Batavia, who directed the return of the idols to the temple at Tiruchendur, accepting however whatever amount they were offered.

Accordingly the idols were brought back to Tiruchendur in January 1651 and re-installed at the temple after consecration. And the inscription of Vadamalai-appa Pillayyan mentions this incident as in kollam 866.

http://tiruchendur.org/history.htm

Yet another version.

he loss of the idols was discovered and duly communicated to Vadamalaiyappa Pillaiyyan, the local administrator of the Nayakkan ruler at Tirunelveli. A great devotee that he was, Pillaiyyan was sorely affected and knew not what to do. He ordered for a similar idol to be made in panchaloka. As the duplicate one was ready, and was on its way to Tiruchendur to be installed, in 1653 Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan had a dream.

Acting to the advice conveyed to him by the God, he put out to sea and following the instructions that the idol was to be found at the spot whereon a lime fruit would be found floating, and the place marked by the circling overhead of a kite, the bird of Vishnu.

Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan recovered the original idol and reinstalled it in the temple in the year 1653. The replacement idol was then consecrated in the shrine of Tiruppirantîsvarar alias Venku Patcha Kovil situated east of Palamcottah (known as Murugan Kurichi).

Vadamalaiappa was greatly struck by the Lord’s grace in giving him this great relief, in memory of which he erected a mantapa at Tiruchendur in his name and endowed it largely for the performance of a Kattalai abhishekam and pujas for Subrahmaniam on the seventh days of Masi and Avani festivals. An inscription at the mantapa relates the incidents referred to.

Among many others, kirtanas composed by Venri Malaik Kavirayar, are sung at this mantapa at the time when Shanmukhar is brought here for Ubaya Mandagappadi on the seventh day of the Masi and Avani festivals. The poem relates the incidents and their rejoicings at the Lord being got back again. “Vadamalai Venba” is another poetic panegyric on Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan.

M. Rennel, the French author of A Description, Historical and Geographical, of India (published in Berlin, 1785), gives a picture of the temple, which, he says, he got from a soldier in the service of the Dutch Company. He relates an incident which offers a reasonable explanation of the Tiruchendur tradition. “In a descent made by the Dutch off the Coast in 1648,” he says, “the Dutch halted in the temple and on leaving did their best to destroy it by fire and by a heavy bombardment. But they only partially succeeded and the tower defied all their efforts.” Possibly the capture of the idol was one of their achievements.

As a matter of fact M. Rennel calls the place Tutucutin, but from the picture and an accompanying sketch-map it is clear that Tiruchendur was meant. The Dutch were incessantly at war with the Portuguese on the coast.

Reference and citation.

http://tiruchendur.org/history.htm

From the Temple site.

A familiar local tradition runs to the effect that about 1648 AD, a race of seafaring men, identified later as Dutch, descended upon Tiruchendur and carried away the idol Shanmukhar and Śiva Natarajar, thinking that they were made of gold. Their attempt at melting it proving futile, they tried to carry them away by sea. But the sea suddenly grew boisterous, and rocked the ship violently, so the sailors threw the idols into the sea.

The loss of the idols was discovered and duly communicated to Vadamalaiyappa Pillaiyyan, the local administrator of the Nayakkan ruler at Tirunelveli. A great devotee that he was, Pillaiyyan was sorely affected and knew not what to do. He ordered for a similar idol to be made in panchaloka. As the duplicate one was ready, and was on its way to Tiruchendur to be installed, in 1653 Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan had a dream.

Acting to the advice conveyed to him by the God, he put out to sea and following the instructions that the idol was to be found at the spot whereon a lime fruit would be found floating, and the place marked by the circling overhead of a kite, the bird of Vishnu.

Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan recovered the original idol and reinstalled it in the temple in the year 1653. The replacement idol was then consecrated in the shrine of Tiruppirantîsvarar alias Venku Patcha Kovil situated east of Palamcottah (known as Murugan Kurichi).

Vadamalaiappa was greatly struck by the Lord’s grace in giving him this great relief, in memory of which he erected a mantapa at Tiruchendur in his name and endowed it largely for the performance of a Kattalai abhishekam and pujas for Subrahmaniam on the seventh days of Masi and Avani festivals. An inscription at the mantapa relates the incidents referred to.

Among many others, kirtanas composed by Venri Malaik Kavirayar, are sung at this mantapa at the time when Shanmukhar is brought here for Ubaya Mandagappadi on the seventh day of the Masi and Avani festivals. The poem relates the incidents and their rejoicings at the Lord being got back again. “Vadamalai Venba” is another poetic panegyric on Vadamalaiappa Pillaiyyan.

M. Rennel, the French author of A Description, Historical and Geographical, of India (published in Berlin, 1785), gives a picture of the temple, which, he says, he got from a soldier in the service of the Dutch Company. He relates an incident which offers a reasonable explanation of the Tiruchendur tradition. “In a descent made by the Dutch off the Coast in 1648,” he says, “the Dutch halted in the temple and on leaving did their best to destroy it by fire and by a heavy bombardment. But they only partially succeeded and the tower defied all their efforts.” Possibly the capture of the idol was one of their achievements.

Reference and citation.

http://www.tiruchendurmurugantemple.tnhrce.in/historical_event.html

Temple From Which Tsunami Backed Off Thiruchendur Subrahmanya


Lord Shiva and Subrahmanya,called as Murugan seem to date prior to Vedic period.

Tamil classics mention Shiva as

‘The Eldest of the unborn

பிறவா யாக்கைப் பெரியோன்

And Shiva is regarded as the Aadhi Yogi,the First Yogi,who taught Yoga to Patanjali and Bhoga.

Patanjali systematised Yoga in his Yoga Sutra from the Vaasi Yoga by Shiva.

Shiva is recorded as having presided the First Poets’s Conclave in Thenmadurai,which was located in Lemuria 230 Million Years ago.

Some state it was presided over by Agastya.

Shiva is credited with founding the Tamil language,along with Sanskrit.

For historical verification of these points,please read my articles by googling search term +ramanan50.

Lord Subrahmanya is the embodiment of Tamil, representing Tamil Grammar.

Murugan is considered as the God of Tamil and is Tamil.

Arupadai veedu.image.Arupadai Veedu.Six important temples of Subrahmanya

And the Thirumurukaatruppadai ,Sangam poem mentions Subrahmanya and this poetic work is on Subrahmanya.

Though it is dated around 3000 years ago, current dating of Poompuhar pushes the date of Sangam Literature back to about 16,000 years .

Though there are many temples for Lord Subrahmanya, six were classified as the Six Abodes that Channelize individuals to Godhood., Subrahmanya.

Thiruthani,

Pazhani,

Thitupprankundram,

Swamymalai,

Pazhamudhircholai and

Thiruchendur.

All are in Tamil Nadu.

One of these temples, Thiruchendur on the Eastern Coast of Tamil Nadu,India survived the Tsunami that struck Tamil Nadu.

Tsunami struck Tamil Nadu on 26 , December,2006.

The giant wave did not touch the temple and one could see it backing off, while it created havoc in the surrounding area.

the only major architecture in the area not to be damaged by the December 26, 2004, Indian Ocean tsunami? The waves destroyed everything around the temple but did not touch the temple itself. It is a fact many witnesses acknowledged...
A forum called Oceanographers.net contains a post in which a scientist claims to have solved the mystery. After research conducted at the site, the scientist discovered that the site’s geographic location had a major role to play in the safety of the temple from the waves. He noted that the location is such where even the tidal waves, which hit other parts of the city, do not touch, and that a natural elevation in the rocks broke the chain of the waves. But in the end the scientist did give credit to those who built the temple at the place for choosing the site properly and after a careful study.

A Scientific explanation?!

Reference and citation.

https://topyaps-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/topyaps.com/tamil-nadu-temple-left-unharmed-in-2004-tsunami/amp/?usqp=mq331AQHCAFYAYABAQ%3D%3D&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251$s&ampshare=https://topyaps.com/tamil-nadu-temple-left-unharmed-in-2004-tsunami/amp/%23referrer=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%2520%25251%2524s

Yonaguni Ruins Remains of Lemuria Tamils?


The world we find in maps of today

Yonaguni.image.
Yonaguni ruins

was not the same in ancient times.

When I say ancient,I mean older by more than between 50,000 to 💯 000 years.

The vast difference between the time frame mentioned is because of the inadequacy of Carbon dating method in determining objects which are over fifty thousand years old or more.

And the use of other Scientific tools like Tectonic shift,ocean floor mapping,Strata analysis, infrared dating of Rocks, verification of Geogyphs,geoglyphology.

When one finds ancient ruins around the world ,each of them quite far off from the other,the legends and literature of divergent cultures having some thing in common,the seacoasts,

the unearthing of archeological finds of similar nature,one can not but wonder whether these were related!

Description of Nazca Lines,Peru,in Sundarakanda of Ramayan,

Astabhuja Devi Mexico,

Siva Temple in China

Siva Temple in central America,

Hanuman , Makaratdwaja in Honduras,

Narada mountain in Russia,

City built by Pradyumna Krishna’s son in Port Barzhyn,Russia,

Shiva’s Trinetra Dance in Australia,

Boomerang,a Tamil weapon in Australia,

Cooke’s Island described in Sundarakanda,

Shiva’s City in Antarctica……..

Tamil references to three floods,

References in Tamil classics on Krishna,Rama,

Rama’s name in Sumerian Kings’List,

The antiquity of Tamils,

The Civilisation of MU,

Civilization of Lemuria,

Lemuria being the home of Tamils,230 Million Years old,

Recent excavation of Poompuhar, which is dated around 11,000 years old,

Presence of Kasyspa in New Zealand,

….

All these point to a civilization having been present in ancient times,which covered the world,

Yonaguni.image

Arechological Find Yonaguni,Japan image credit.Courtesy of http://www.yonaguni.ws

The land of Atlantis being referred to in ancient Indian texts,..

Now evidence of this civilisation in Japan.

(Curiously it is very difficult to find the origin of Japanese people.)

And if we go through the ancient continents, Pangaea,Rodina,and ancient oceans like Tethys ocean,one can find the floods mentioned in Puranas,Tamil classics are validated.

And further the Fist Man Manu,as stated in the ancient texts,was from Dravida Desa and he meditated near Madagascar.

The ruins of Poompuhar and of the remains of Yonaguni,Japan seems to have similarities.

Above is Poompuhar ruins.

Image below Poompuhar Remains

 

References to ancient root races also point to the fact that ancient landmass existed somewhere near the northwest of Australia.

https://ramanan50-wordpress-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/ramanan50.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/seven-pehistoric-root-raceslemuriaatlantis-sanatana-dharma-details/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHCAFYAYABAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Framanan50.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F08%2F01%2Fseven-pehistoric-root-raceslemuriaatlantis-sanatana-dharma-details%2F

Read the report.

According to Kimura, the Yonaguni monument appears to depict carvings of animals and people as well as the remnants of a carved face, which he compares to the Moai heads on Easter Island. At the end of the last ice age, Yonaguni would have been connected to what is now mainland China. It is likely that the fate of the civilization that built the Yonaguni pyramid, was sealed by a massive tectonic event that triggered a tsunami and subsequent sea level rise.

Since the end of the last Ice Age, sea levels have risen some 40 meters, causing drastic changes in topography and lending credibility to the theory that there may have been cities or even continents that disappeared into the sea. Based on stalactite found in caves near the ruins, Kimura has calculated the Yonaguni pyramid to be at least 6,000 years old when it sank, with the potential to be up to 10,000 years old including the time prior to flooding. The oldest recorded flooding event at Yonaguni occurred in the late 1700s, during which a tsunami ravaged the island with 130 foot waves. This combination of sea level rise and catastrophic climatic events were likely the cause of this ancient city’s demise….

An interesting discovery has been made when looking at the orientation of the angles in the Yonaguni ruins. One researcher believes that the radial lines, when extended out from the ruins, might potentially outline a territory in the Pacific. This theory employs geoglyphology, or the study of coded maps and messaging in ancient geoglyphs, and has drawn out the radial lines of the Yonaguni ruins. The Faram Research Foundation’s work shows lines that depict a map very similar to the territory sought after by Japan during WWII.

The area extends from Yonaguni and the South China Sea, up to the tip of Alaska’s archipelago, down to Hawaii and back over encompassing Indonesia and Burma (Myanmar). This territory, some believe, could be that which was occupied by the lost continent of Mu, a lost civilization larger and older than Atlantis.

THE LOST CONTINENT OF MU

The lost civilization of Mu, is thought to have spanned a large swath of the Pacific Ocean. Reaching from the Philippines Sea all the way to Easter Island, Mu would have encompassed most of the small islands in the mid-Pacific, including Guam, Fiji, Christmas Island, Midway and Hawaii. The conception of Mu was first proposed by Augustus LePlongeon in the 19th century who was the first explorer to photographically document the ancient Mayan city of Chichen Itza. It was there that he supposedly learned of the lost continent of Mu through his translation of the ancient Mayan Troano Codex.

Reference and citation.

https://www.gaia.com/article/yonaguni-monument-may-hold-key-to-the-sunken-civilization#.XAtCoKOaqTY.link

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Inter Caste Children Gotra Anuloma Pratiloma Details


I have written quite a few articles on Caste and its rationale.

Also the Gotras,which identifies an individual.

The concept of Gotra in Hinduism is unique in that it traces your ancestry and guides you the exact practices to be followed as mentioned in the Vedas,the scriptural authority of the Hindus.

Hinduism lists forty smaskaras,the duties to be performed by an individual.

This starts from birth and ends after cremation.

One of the important rites is marriage.

Hindu Smritis list seven types of marriages.

They are,

Eight types of Marriages.

1.Brahmah Vivaah

2.Prajapatya Vivaah.

3.Arsha Vivaah.

4.Daiva Vivah.

5.Asura Vivaah.

6.Gaandharva Vivaah.

7.Raakshsa Vivaah and

8.Paisaacha Vvaah

Interestingly,Tamils also list eight types of marriages.

Varna Dharma,which is loosely translated as Caste,which is incorrect,depends on Disposition and conduct and is not based on Birth.

There are four Varmas.

Brahmana,

Kshatriya,

Vaisya and

Sudras.

One is expected to marry in the same Varna,as it facilitates better integration of individuals who are getting married,The Life Style being compatible, similar and not totally divergent.

If one marries in the same Varna,there would be no confusion in assigning Gotra.

In the Vedic system,which was mostly Patriarchal,the Husband’s Gotra is assigned.

In Matriarchal society,as was in Vogue in Kerala,India,the wife’s Gotra was assigned.

However predominant was Patriarchal.

Now if one were to marry from the other Varna,how to determine the Gotra and Caste?

If A Brahmin man marries from other Varna,it was called Anuloma.

If A Brahmin woman marries from the other Varna,it is Pratiloma.

This is also said this.

Anuloma is marriage between a sudra woman and higher caste man. Pratiloma is marriage between a sudra man and higher caste women.

As to the Caste to which the child belongs to,is normally, the Varna,Caste of the father.

If A Brahmin man marries a woman of other Varna,the Varna of the Child is Brahmin at Birth.

But to be qualified as Brahmin depends on Disposition and Character.

The general perception that the Varna or Caste is based on the Higher Caste does not seem to be supported in Vedic Thought,though Some subscribe to this view.

I am of the view,in the case of conflict in interpretation between Vedas,Sruthi and Smriti,the last word is that of Shruthi,Vedas.

Therefore,the automatic assignment of Gotra,based on Varna hierarchy is not in tune with the spirit of the Vedas.

That is, in the case of inter- varna marriages,the Gotra need not be assigned to that of the father,if he is considered Higher in Caste.

Hence those who follow the Patriarchal system need not assign father’s Gotra to the child.,in the case of inter-varna marriages.

Varna may be assigned later based on Disposition and Character and based on Varna ,the Gotra may be assigned.

Generally speaking Siva Gotra is not found among Brahmins,who follow the Vedic Fire worship,

I have observed that Vishnu Gotra is found among people who do not worship Agni,Fire.

Gotras bearing God’s names seem to belong to this group.

Otherwise,Gotra names are from Rishis, Saptha Rishis.

As the disposition of children born of inter-varna are not determined soon after birth, I think God’s,Siva, Vishnu name are assigned initially.

However this procedure may not really provide the Veda Shaka details.

This article is exploratory and scholarly inputs with credible sources may be sent .

It is of interest to note that Viswamitra,who gave the most important Mantra Gayatri, has been credited with two Gotras.

Kaushika and Viswamitra.

Kaushika Gotra is assigned to descendants of Viswamitra,when he was a Kshatriya King, Kaushika.

And Viswamitra Gotra to his descendants born to him after he became a Raja Rishi,Brahmana.

First Recorded Solar Eclipse 5077 BC Ramayana Not 1223 BC


One can see the double standards followed in academic circles,when it comes to Indian history.

Indian history is treated as Myth while,those other than this, is considered as facts!

This approach is not restricted to Indian historical events,but also to events referred to in Indian texts

Whether it be the presence of Hinduism in Sumeria Minoan Aztecs,Incas,Hitties,Ur civilizations or natural events described in Indian texts.

The great floods referred to in Puranas, especially in Bhagavatha Purana and Tamil classical literature.

Also the trade relations between India and what is the rest of World today,much before even Bible was composed.

First eclipse recorded.image.
Sky map during Kara Dushana vada, Ramayana

And the funniest thing is that the so called historians even deny natural event like the earliest Eclipse of the Sun recorded.

One would find that the earliest Solar eclipse recorded was in March /May 1223BC.

1223 BC: The oldest eclipse record

The oldest eclipse record is found on a clay tablet uncovered in the ancient city of Ugarit, (in what is now Syria), with two plausible dates usually cited: 3 May 1375 BC or 5 March 1223 BC, the latter being favored by most recent authors on the topic..

The two oldest record of a sunspot observation are found in the Book of Changes, probably the oldest extant Chinese book, compiled in China around or before 800 BC...
The text reads “A dou is seen in the Sun”, and A mei is seen in the Sun”. From the context, the words (i.e., chinese characters) “dou” and “mei” are taken to mean darkening or obscuration.

Astronomers at the court of the Chinese and Korean emperors made regular notes of sunspots, most less elliptical than the one cited above. It seems, however, that observations were not carried out systematically for their own sake, but instead took place whenever astrological prognostication was demanded by the emperor. The surviving sunspots records, though patchy and incomplete, covers nearly 2000 years and represents by far the most extensive pre-telescopic sunspot record.

Sunspots are concentrations of strong magnetic fields piercing the solar photosphere. Visually, they look like dark blemishes on the solar disk (see slide 1 and slide 3 of the HAO slide set). Most sunspots are too small to be readily visible by naked eye observations, but some reach a size sufficient to be visible without a telescope, under suitable viewing conditions (for example, when the sun is partially obscured by fog or thick mist, or clouds). Because of their possible astrological significance, reports of naked-eye sunspot observations are indeed to be found in many ancient chronicles and court chronologies.

References and further reading:

Mossman, J.E., 1989, A comprehensive search for sunspots without the aid of a telescope, 1981-1982, in Quarterly J. R. Astr. Soc., 30, 59–73.
Stephenson, F.R. 1990, Historical evidence concerning the Sun: interpretation of sunspot records during the telescopic and pre-telescopic eras, in Phil. Trans. R. Soc. London, A330, 499-512.
Hetherington, B. 1996, A chronicle of pre-telescopic astronomy, John Wiley and Sons.

Citation.

https://www2.hao.ucar.edu/Education/solar-physics-historical-timeline-1223-BC-250-BC

Another reference is taken to Aristotle.

Point is Aristotle refers to India.

And Indian texts refer to Eclipses that took place much earlier.

On Julian August 11 afternoon, a solar eclipse begins 20 minuets before sunset and it is still on going at sunset. Fourteen days later (On Julian August 25) in the evening at sunset a lunar eclipse is already occurring. It clearly suggests that eclipse started on the 13th day after the previous eclipse! Obviously the end of lunar and start of solar eclipses were less than 14 days period, or occurred in 13 days. This could be concluded without the benefit of modern clocks.
The dates of this eclipse pair are Julian 3129 and Julian month of August. In ancient Bharata, since the full moon occurred on Proshtapada, the month would be considered as Bhadrapada. Normally, this is the monsoon rainy season in North India. However, there are many occasions when monsoon fails. The epic states that draught like conditions existed. Even during normal monsoon the sky is occasionally clear for the eclipses to have been witnessed.
The first and oldest eclipse pair from 3129 BC is unique. Aryabhata estimated that Kaliyuga started in 3102 BC. So does Surya Siddhanta. These fit the Puranic description that Sri Krishna passed away in 3102 BCJ, which is 27 years after the war. Our study confirms that Kaliyuga could have started in 3102 BCJ.

The second date 2559 BCJ is also unique in that Varaha Mihira stated that 2526 before start of Saka, Yudhishtira was the ruling king. If it Saka was Vikrama it would makeYudhistira as king in 2583 BCJ, which is before Mahabharata War. Yudhistira was also king for a short time before war, before he lost it in a game of dice to Sakuni/Duryodhana. This date is also an excellent candidate for Mahabharata war. There is another event that occurs in 2559 BC. While the eclipse pair occurred in lunar month Shravana, there is another short solar eclipse in Pushya. On 13th day of Mahabharata war, it is said that Jayadhratha was killed when Sri Krishna covered the sun for a short time just before the sunset. This event could be looked upon as a solar eclipse. A study of year 2559 shows that another solar eclipse did occur in Pushyalunar month (Julian)

Citation.

https://www.boloji.com/articles/1052/dating-mahabharata

Eclipse reference in Ramayan.
Ramayan refers to the solar eclipse at the time of war with Khar-Dushan in later half of 13th year of Shri Ram’s stay in the forests. Valmiki has also mentioned that it was Amavasya day and planet Mars was in the middle. When this data was entered, the sky view generated by computer software indicated that there was a solar eclipse on 7th October, 5077 BC (Amavasya day) which could be seen from Panchvati (20° N; 73° E) (Fig. 2). On that date planetary configuration was the same as has been described by Valmiki i.e. Mars was in the middle; on one side were Mercury, Venus and Jupiter and on the other side were Sun, Moon and Saturn.

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/ramayana-data-tools-for-dating-proof/

Vikramaditya Date 105 BC Evidence


At times,when I study the History of India, as narrated by western authors and our home grown secularists I get the impression that Indian history is meticulously crafted, unadulterated fiction, with no regard to facts found in Indian texts.

They are prepared to accept the History of India by James Mill as the gospel, which states that Indians were rooted in superstition and that India had no civilisation worth mentioning.

The same book claims that the earth is six thousand years old!

The gentleman wrote Indian history without ever stepping in the soil of India nor did he refer any texts,either Indian or Foreign classical authors.

What a scholarship!

And if one were to believe such authors, text books in Indian schools, one would believe that real Indian history began with the Invasion of India by Alexander.

I have,with proof, written that it is non sense and traced Indian history from Mahabharatha period to Nanda Dynasty.

Such misinformation has caused enormous harm to Indian history and culture.

History of India is denied and dates of great kings and dynasties are assigned later dates, if not denying them outright.

This is not limited to kings.

Great personalities too suffered this fate.

Buddha, Kalidasa, Rajput Kings, Tamil kings, to mention a few.

So are the ancient literature in Sanskrit and Tamil.

In this article, let us examine the Emperor Vikramaditya,after whom one of the three calendars of India are named.

Many mistake the son of Samudra Gupta of Maurys Dynasty,Chandra Gupta.

He assumed the name of Vikramaditya, who lived around 105 BC and established his Empire in India, Far East and Middle East.

He conquered Arabia and established Shiva Linga in Mecca.

Emperor Vikramaditya.image
Emperor Vikramaditya

Evidence of Vikramaditya’s date.

A Shaka ruler invaded north-western India and oppressed the Hindus. According to one source, he was a Shudra from the Almanṣūra city; according to another, he was a non-Hindu who came from the west. In 78 CE, the Hindu king Vikramaditya defeated him and killed him in the Karur region, located between Multan and the castle of Loni. The astronomers and other people started using this date as the beginning of a new era.’

-Al Birauni.
Since there was a difference of over 130 years between the Vikramaditya era and the Shaka era, Al-Biruni concluded that their founders were two kings with the same name. The Vikramaditya era named after the first, and the Shaka era was associated with the defeat of the Shaka ruler by the second Vikramaditya

Reference and citation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikramaditya

“purne thrimsachchate varsheKalau prapte bhayamkareSakanamcha Vinasardham AryaDharma vivruddhaye Jatassivajnaya sopi kailasatGuhyakalayat.”

– Bhavishya Maha Purana (3-1-7-14,15 verses)

Vikramaditya namanam pita Krutwa mumodahaSa balopi mahaprajanah pithruMathru priyamkarah”(3-1-7-16)
pancha Varshe vayah prapte Tapasordhe vanam gatahDwadasabdam prayathnenaVikramena krutam tapah” (Bhavishya 3-1-7-17)
Paschadambavatim divyamPurim yatah sriyanvitahDivyam simhasanam ramyamDwathrimsan murthi samyutam” (Bhavishya 3-1-7-18)

At the completion of 3000 years after the advent of the terrible Kaliyuga, (ie.101 BCE.) a person descended from the abode of Guhyakas in Kailasa, at the command of Lord Siva, for the purpose of destroying the Sakas and uplifting Arya-Dharma. He was born to the Great King Gandharvasena. The father named him ‘Vikramaditya’ and felt very much rejoiced...
Paramara KingsAmong the Paramara kings, the first one reigned between 2710 – 2716 Kali Yuga (392 – 386 BCE)Salivahana established his own Saka in 78 CE, which is followed even today in most parts of India and years in panchang (vedic almanac) known as Saka Samvat or Shaka Samvat.

Paramara dynasty continued to rule Ujjain, which ended in 1305 CE, whose last king was Mahakaladeva.

Reference and citation.

https://www.booksfact.com/history/emperor-vikramaditya-ujjain-actual-dates.html

Will be providing more evidence on Vikramaditya date from Tamil literature and foreign authors.

Will be posting on History of Rajputs.

Also on Bhoja.

Allot Govt Lands Free Houses For Christians- Congress Manifesto


India is a secular country with Hindu majority!

The land of Sanatana Dharma,of Rama,Krishna,of Puranas,Of Ramayana, Mahabharata,of Valmiki,Sangam Literature,of Tulsidas,Bhakta Ramdass, Shivaji,of Ramana Maharshi,land of the oldest recorded literature,The Rig Veda…

A land which has withstood invasions,a country which never invaded,

A Religion,a way of Life,

Which never tried to convert,

Known for tolerance..

This country today needs permission from the secular elites to conduct it’s festivals and permission from invaders and proselytisers,

The Atheists forcing sacred temple to open its doors throwing to wind the customs of the temple.

Oldest party of the India openly asking for subsidies to other Religions.

Asking for special privileges for those other than Hindus.

I have nothing to add.

The image in the article is eloquent.

Image credit. Facebook.

Submit to Husband Dont Speak In Church BIBLE on Women


Christianity propagates that it is rational and grants equal rights to women.

And there is no caste or subdivisions in Christianity.

Christianity has over 5000 Sects

Corinthians 14:34-35 King James Version (KJV)
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 ESV / 804 helpful votes

Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

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Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body

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Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness.

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Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things.

A widow is to be put on the list only if she is not less than sixty years old, having been the wife of one man, having a reputation for good works; and if she has brought up children, if she has shown hospitality to strangers, if she has washed the saints’ feet, if she has assisted those in distress, and if she has devoted herself to every good work. But refuse to put younger widows on the list, for when they feel sensual desires in disregard of Christ, they want to get married,

Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior. Your adornment must not be merely external–braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses;

Source.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/women

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Role-Of–Women-In-The-Church

Image credit.

https://www.rebjeff.com/blog/searching-for-how-the-bible-defines-of-marriage

Rama Sethu Adams Bridge Description Al Biruni and Foreign Historians.


I have written on Ramayan being history also Lord Rama being a historical figure.

I have provided proof based on,

Archaeology,

Astronomy,

Astro Archeology,

Indian and foreign literature,

Kings’ List of Sumeria which mentions Dasaratha,Rama and Bharatha as kings,

Rama’s Chapel in Ur, Iraq,

References in African legends where Rama tribe still exist,

References from Atlantis legends

And more.

Though Indian authors right from Kalidasa,Kalhana have been writing on Ramayana stating it is History, Indians tend to dismiss them because they are written by Indians!

So I am providing references from some foreign sources about the authenticity of Ramayana.

Will be sharing more.

Description by Al Biruni.


Next a great bay in which Single Dib lies, i.e. the island Sarandib (Ceylon). On the coast is Ummalnara, then Ramsher (Rameshar?), opposite Sarandib; the distance of the sea between them is 12 farsakh. Between Ramsher and Setubandha 2 farsakh. Setu Bandha means bridge of the ocean. It is the dike of Rama, the son of Dasaratha which he built from the continent to the castle Lanka. At present it consists of isolated mountains between which the ocean flows...

Al Biruni,1030 CE

Al – Biruni- 1030 CE

References to Ramayana by other foreign writers.

▪ Marco Polo- 1271 CE

▪ Ludovico de Varthema- 1470 CE

▪ Asiatic Society- 1799 CE

▪ William Fordyce Mavor- 1807 CE

▪ Charles O’Conor- 1819 CE

▪ A J Valpy- 1825 CE

▪ Arnold Hermann- 1833 CE

▪ William Yates- 1846 CE

▪ Thomas Horsfield- 1851 CE

▪ George Scharf- 1856 CE

▪ Clements Robert Markham- 1862 CE.

Reference and citation.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-scientific-proof-that-the-Ramayana-had-actually-happened/answer/Nagarjun-Nagu?ch=10&share=4170d22c&srid=pNfl

The above link provides a consolidated view on Ramayan being History from sources including http://www.ramanan50.wordpress.com.

By Whom How Indian Texts Became Myths


Even when evidence from various sources like Archeological, Epigraphy, Linguistics, Stratification of earth, Geology,Plate tectonics , Thermal imaging of Rocks and from literature around the world cultures in different languages,it is a herculean task to prove that the ‘Myths’ tag attached to Indian texts, Puranas, Ithihasa and other ancient Indian texts.

Why is it so?

What is a Myth?

Myth is what is untrue.

Though many definitions are provided laboriously,the term Myth is from Sanskrit word, Mithya,which means ‘of illusory nature,an illusion’

Later this term was used to denote things which are untrue.

This term was conveniently used to denote things which you do not understand or belongs to a Culture,faith, civilisation which is older than Christianity.

Everything must be related to Christ,is the zeal of Christianity.

Thus we have this non sense of BC,of relating an event to the birth of Christ even though the event in question preceded Christ,causing confusion in dating.

When the Britishers found,to their chagrin,that the History of India to be quite ancient and was factual and one that ran contrary to Christianity, especially relating to the age of the Universe and Earth,and they needed a tool to bring in India under their rule.

They realised that the major stumbling block was Hinduism,which was the uniting factor of Indians.

They adopted some strategies.

1. Call Indian texts as Myths.

2. Infiltrate Hinduism in the guise of scholars like Maxmueller and destroy it cunningly,by misinterpret Hindu texts.

3.Offer inducements to converts Including money.

4. Pose as Literati and misinterpret Indian literature in Regional languages like Tamil.

5. Open free educational institutions.

6.Misguide the gullible by ‘Miracles’

7. Use Christian organisations in the garb of NGOS and convert.

Under the classification of calling Indian texts as Myths,they had the History of India published by James Mill who wrote the History of India from Britain without ever visiting India or reading Indian texts.

Mr.Mill & Mr. Grant classified these texts as Mythological on the following 4 grounds:

1. The events in these texts seemed to go before the

Date of creation of the earth as fixed by Father. James Usher as 9 AM, 23rd Oct, 4004 BCE.(Because According to Bible Earth is created 6000 years ago).

▪ If Earth is Created 6000 Years ago, How come Ramayana can happen 7000 years ago?.

▪ But Science has Now Proved that Earth is not 6000 years old, But it is Billions of Years old.

2. Early British Scholars Believed in Fake Aryan Invasion Theory

▪ Early British Scholars like Max-Muller, Martin-Luther King, Griffith etc Proposed Aryan Invasion Theory .’

I have articles with evidence that all these statements are lies.

Seemingly well qualified scientists and others dismiss India’s rich culture, History and the icons of India, Rama, Krishna,Shiva, despite being presented with astronomical archeological evidence.

Such is the entrenched misinformation by the British in their about 350 years of Rule of India.

If one were to look for information on India and Hinduism, references pop up written by Western Authors, most of them self-proclaimed Missionaries, starting from Robert De Nobili of Tamil Nadu, Bishop Caldwell, Max Mueller, right to our secular educated Indians.

It was by James Mill who wrote the First Book, ‘History of British India’ in 1806.

( His son John Stuart Mill was a great Western Philosopher)

“James Mill began his History of British India in 1806, expecting it to take him about three years, but its completion proved to take instead twelve years, with three substantial volumes at last being published early in 1817. The work was immediately successful among British imperialists and secured for Mill for the first time a degree of prosperity. It led, with the support of David Ricardo andJoseph Hume, to Mill’s appointment in 1819 in United_Kingdom as assistant (later chief) examiner of correspondence at the imperialEast India Company at an annual salary of £800. By 1836, when he died, this income had become £2,000”

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/how-indian-history-was-distorted-the-first-history-of-india/

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-scientific-proof-that-the-Ramayana-had-actually-happened/answer/Nagarjun-Nagu?ch=10&share=4170d22c&srid=pNfl

Ancestors of Man Homo Sapiens Homo heidelbergensis From India


The history of India is very ancient, Purana.

The Ancient history is called Purana.

Unfortunately, Purana has come to mean today as Legends, Myths, thanks to foreign invaders and our own home grown species, Secularists.

A nation is doomed if it forgets its History.

What is taught in Indian institutions from Pre kg to Phd is total misinformation and disinformation.

If foreigners, Britishers, driven by Messianic zeal to convert Hindus to Christianity with the intention of ruling over India under Christianity as the bond, Muslim invaders had their eyes on India’ s wealth in temples and the demonic zeal to convert Hindus to Islam as dictated by their religion.

Secularists had their own visions of trying to project themselves as Humane and liberal and to showvoff they are the intelligentsia, having been educated abroad.

They forget or feign ignorance about the tolerance and the rich , scientific heritage of India.

I have personal experience of this.

When one of the readers, a young archelogist ,of this blog,after discussing with me and on my suggestion to dig in the spot of Kurukshetra for painted potteries was refused permission for a dig.

She called me frm Delhi archeology office

I was connected to the head of the department.

It happened that he is a regular reader of my blog.

He apologised to me for not granting permission to dig for he has oral instructions not to allow any new dig if the Dig is likely to result in findings that might result in dates before Christ!

I have been writing this blog since 2009, providing evidence about the antiquity of Hinduism and Bharatavarsha.

In the process, I found

A million year old advanced Tamil site near Chennai,

Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu is dated over 11000 years ago,

Thiruvannamalai is 3. 94 bilion years old, Thirupathi is 2100 million years old, Jwalapuram, Nataraja is 74000″years old,

Gobekli tepe temple, Turkey was built by Brahmins 11000 Years ago,

Natural Vishnu temple and Shiva temple are found

In Colorado, US, and many more.

I have also refuted the Aryan Invasion theory and showed that Tamil and Sanatana dharma are ancient and they go together.

Also I have shown that the out of Africa human migration theory to be incorrect and human migration was from the South of India.

I have also written on the fact that the most ancient DNA of Human is traced to Madurai,Tamil Nadu.

Now I have information that not only Himo Sapiens eviloved in India but Homo Sapiens’ ancestor also evolved from India.

The species Homo heidelbergensis (a proto human who was an ancestor of modern Homo sapiens) inhabited the sub-continent of India centuries before humans migrated into the region known as Europe. Evidence of the existence of Homo heidelbergensis was first discovered in Germany in 1907 and, since, further discoveries have established fairly clear migration patterns of this species out of Africa. Recognition of the antiquity of their presence in India has been largely due to the fairly late archaeological interest in the area as, unlike work in Mesopotamia and Egypt, Western excavations in India did not begin in earnest until the 1920’s CE.

Reference and citation.

Authored by, Joshua A. MARK

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.ancient.eu/amp/1-328/

Vaishnavism Naalayira Dhivya Prabhandham Date 4200 to 3000 BC


I am intrigued about the date of Nalayira Divya Prabhndham,the 4000 poems on Lord Vishnu,composed by Vaishnava Saints,called Alwars,Azhwars.

The collection is sacred to Vaishnava Sampradaya, especially for Thenkalai Iyengars.

The other sect in South India,Vadakalai,means from the northern part of Tamil Nadu,gives predominance to the Vedas.

It is said that Vishnu follows Tamil and Vedas follow Him,to convey that Tamil Nalayira Divya Prabhandham is recited before the Vishnu idol in procession,while Vedas come behind Him .

As Tamil and Sanskrit seem to be inseparable, contrary to misinformation by secularists and self styled rationalists,it is difficult to say which language follows the other.

In my view ,this effort is meaningless.

It is not necessary that antiquity alone is of importance.

One curious point I have noticed about Bhakti literature in Tamil is that we seem to be accepting the dated assigned to them, mostly by westerners,that is between Sixth century to Fourteenth century AD.

The evidence does not seem to be strong enough.

One type of evidence is exploring the period of Tamil kings and correlate this with these texts.

Problem is dates assigned to Tamil Kings seem to be arbitrary and,in my opinion,do not have strong evidence to support the dates assigned to them.

So dates of Bhakti literature is questionable.

I have ,with evidence,that Tamil kings took part in Mahabharata war.

Krishna had his daughter Married to a Pandya Prince and Krishna Married a Pandya princess.

Madurai Meenakshi’s father, Makaratdwaja Pandya,also called Saranga,took part in Mahabharata war.

And Chera king Udhiyan Cheralaathan provided food for both Pandava and Kaurava Armies in the Mahabharata war.

Mahabharata can be dated to 3100 BC.

I have more articles on these lines while discussing about Lemuria continent,which is dated around 230 Million Years.

This is based on literary and geological evidence, including tectonics shift, the date of Poompuhar, excavated, which is about 12000 years ago.

In comparison to Puranic timeline,Himalayas is only between 40 and 70 lakh years old.

Puranas,Vedas predate Himalayas.

When Lemuria and Mu civilisations were in place in South,fire worshipping Sanatana Dharma was in place north of Vindhya Mountains.

So Tamil and Sanskrit were in practice along with Prakrit during those ancient times.

Now let us see the references to Tamil and Southern region in the Puranas.

Bhagavatha refers to the first Man,Vaivaswatha Manu as a Dravida.

I have written on this and Manu meditated near Madagascar.

One should remember that the landmass during the ancient times was different from what we see today.

Kindly read my articles on Rodinae, Pangaea,Sundaland, Atlantis.

There is another Puranic reference which states that Saini from the South will emerge and sing in praise of Vishnu.

Especially in some parts of the Drāviḍa [southern] regions of the country through which the Tāmrabarani, Kritamālā, Payasvinī, the very holy Kāverī and the great west-flowing Mahānadī (Periyār) have their course, devotees of the Lord will specially abound.

O King! Those who drink the waters of these rivers will become purified in mind and will generally develop devotion to Vāsudeva, the worshipful Lord.” (Bhāgavata Purāṇam, Sk XI-5- 39-40).’

Now to the Alwars.

ThreeAlwars,Poigaiyaazhwar,Bhuthatthaazhvar and Peyazhvar, called Mudhal Azhwars,First Azhwars among the twelve Azhvars dates, I am researching and am sharing .

Poigai Azhwar.
Many modern academics place the Alvars date between 5th century to 10th century CE, however traditionally the Alvars are considered to have lived between 4200 BCE – 2700 BCE. Orthodoxy posits the number of alvars as ten, though there are other references that include Andal and Madhurakavi Alvar, making the number twelve. Andal is the only female saint-poet in the 12 Alvars. Together with the contemporary sixty three Shaiva Nayanars, they are among the most important saints from Tamil Nadu..
According to traditional account, the first three azhwars belong to Dwapara Yuga(before 4200 BC). As per Hindu legend, Poigai was found in a small pond near the Yadhotakaari temple at Tiruvekkaa. In Tamil, small pond is called poigai, and since he was found in a pond, he got the name Poigai.

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Poigai_Azhwar

According to guru paramparas, the first four AzhwArs namely  
Poigai AzhwAr, BhUtatthAzhwAr, PEyAzhwAr and Thirumazhisai AzhwAr were born 
at the end of Dwapara yuga, which corresponds to 4200 BCE. Madhurakavi also 
is belived to be born in Dwapara yuga corresponding to 3200 BCE. NammAzhwAr, 
KulasekarAzhwAr, PeriyAzhwAr and ANdAL were born during the first century of 
Kaliyuga which approximates to 3103 BCE to 3003 BCE. The remaining three 
AzhwArs ThoNdaradippodi AzhwAr, ThiruppAN AzhwAr and Thirumangai AzhwAr took 
birth in the years of 298, 343 and 399 respectively in the Kaliyuga which 
corresponds to 2803, 2758 and 2702 BCE. (From A Govindacharya, the Holy 
lives of Alwars).'

https://ramanuja.org/sri/BhaktiListArchives/Article?p=mar2002%2F0148.html

So the date of Poigai Azhwar is around 4200 BC,around six thousand years ago.

To those who dismiss this as a legend,

1. Dates assigned to Azhwars is based mainly on western sources,who dismiss traditional sources as myths,with no proof.

2. Azhwars’s dates are also based on Tamil kings’ List.

3. Tamil Kings’s List is mainly based on Temple Epigraphy and Tamil literature.

It is a fad to dismiss Epigraphy as nonsense if it gives you a date before BC and Tamil literary evidence as wild imagination despite the fact that Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu finds dating back to 12 000 years ago confirms Tsunami mentioned in it, Million year site near Chennai,Tamil Nadu.

And there is a catch in depending only on Epigraphy.

Tamil temple Epigraphy ,in general,mentions,among other things,mention ,as dateline, Indian era,Kali,Vikram or Saka,Varsha,year,Shana, movement of the Sun,season,Paksha and Thithi,Nakshatra and date.

In most cases, the Era is missing.

If era is missing, it is not possible to fix the year because unlike western calendar, Indian calendar is cyclic,that is years do not progress from 1,2,3….. But as a cycle,that is the sixty years of one cycle starting from Pranava ends, it again starts at Pranava.

To illustrate, if we count years as total ten, as 1,2,3..10,the number next is not 11, but One,1!

So in cases where the Indian Era is not mentioned ,the dates arrived based on Epigraphy alone is not correct.

As celestial phenomena recurr at periodic intervals,it is not possible to link one Thithi with one date.

Where Kaliyuga is mentioned as dateline in Epigraphy,then 3102 BC is to be taken as the base year for Kali year 1.

But it does not seem to have been done.

I have discussed this with the Head of Indology, South Asian Study, Government of Pondicherry and he is checking on these dates.

So, based on available Indian texts, literary , Cultural evidence,and the date of the temples about which the Wayward had sung,the date of Poigai Azhwar may be placed around 4200 BC.

It may be noted that one can not assign a specific date for a collection of Poems when these poems were sung at different point of times and were not written.

Poigai Azhwar is around 4200 BC,while Andal is dated around 3000 BC.

Hence Naalayiram can not be dated around only at 3000 BC or at only 4200 BC as there have been ten azhwars in between Poigai Azhwar and Azhwar and Andalusia.

The date of Naalayira Dhivya Prabhandham is between 4200 And 3000 BC.

Sabarimala Iyappan Vrata Mensurating Women Entry Clarification


There is controversy and unrest in Kerala, India on women of mensurating age entering the Iyappan temple at Sabarimala.

The Supreme court of India has ruled that,based on equality of gender that women must be allowed entry to Sabarimala.

Nice to know that the honourable court has not decreed that Men should undergo labour and give birth to children.

In my view,comparing women and women is akin to comparing a Circle and a Square.

Each is unique and incomparable.

They compliment each other but never compete.

Each has a distinct identity and function,which can not be performed by the other.

I am yet to see a Man who can change a diaper with ease,who can wake up while fast asleep,when an infant feels uncomfortable or can withstand pain and sorrows as a woman,despite they being called the weaker sex.

Now to the issue of banning entry of women to Sabarimala.

The whole issue seems to be centered on the point that women are barred entry because of Mensuration.

It is not so specifically.

Men go to Sabarimala to conquer lust by following rigorous practices.

How many today follow it is questionable,though.

One of the methods is to be away from women,which attracts men.

One is not allowed to be in contact with women during the vrat period,let alone physical intimacy.

The diet is also Sattvic to prevent lecherous thoughts.

By following this,one disciplines the mind.

Over a period of time self control sets in.

This is the principle behind Sabarimala pilgrimage.

To point bout this and to exclude diversion of men’s mind away from women, the principle was put crudely that mensurating women are not to enter the temple.

The point is to emphasize that women,by nature interest men,it is Nature and you can not do anything about it and the vrata is to discipline the mind.

Iyappan,Anjaneya are the Symbols of Brahmacharya.

Iyappan is a Naishtika Brahmachari, for whom the sukla,loosely translated as Semen,raises upwards,Urdhwaretas, and not downwards as for us.

So this principle is laid.

Hope women go to court allowing them to perform Bhishma Tharpana,which is allowable.

We brought this imbroglio by diluting our vrata to suit our convenience.

Please understand Hindu practices.

It is for spiritual development based on one’s nature and limitations.

Men can go to court for performing Varalakshmi vrata,Sharad Poornima,Sumangali prarthana,Hoovili habba!.

Inverted Shiva Linga Energy Module Concentric Circles Anuradhapura Video


I have written, on the worship of Shiva even before the Vedic period,the construction of Shiva lingam,Jwalapuram Nataraja bring 74,000 years old, Thiruvannamalai,Tamil Nadu being 3.94 Billion years old,Shiva temples being aligned in a straight line, Chidambaram,Tamil Nadu as the centre of Geomagnetic field of earth , SriRudram and Chamakam in praise of Lord Shiva is vs mathematical aphorism,First DNA was spewed on the earth by Shiva lingam,Shiva lingam is present in all world cultures.

Ravana is reported to have created Secret chambers,Seven in number,and had kept a Crystal Linga,called Spatika Linga in each.

One of them is found in Anuradhapura,Sri Lanka.

You find image,when you look into the water, of seven concentric circles .

Each circle is reported to have one Spatika Linga inside.

There is a stupa elesewhere in the city to receive energy from this.

The Avudayaar is also called Yoni,which means among other things, that which contains everything,energy.

Avudayaar contains universal energy.

Will be writing more on this.

Transcript of Video available in Video description.

‘Danish scientist, Neils Bohr, demonstrates that Molecules (the smallest part of everything) made up of Atoms which consists of Proton, Neutron and Electron, all of which play a vital part in the composition of Shiva Lingam. In those days instead of using these English words such as Proton, Neutron, Electron, Molecules and Energy, the ancient sages employed the usage of the words like Lingam, Vishnu, Brahma, Sakthi (which in turn is divided into Renuka and Rudrani), Sarppa, etc. as Sanskrit was the dominant language in those periods.

According to Hinduism, the Pillar is described as the column of fire which represents the three Gods – Brahma, Vishnu and Maheshwara while the Disc or Peedam represents Sakthi. The Disc is shown with three ridges, encarved at its periphery.

Sage Vyasa, the author of Maha Bharatha, mentions that Lord Shiva is smaller than the sub-atomic particle like Proton, Neutron and Electron. At the same time, he also mentions Lord Shiva is greater than anything greatest. He is the cause of vitality in all living things. Everything, whether living or non-living, originates from Shiva. He has engulfed the whole world. He is Timeless. He has no birth, no death. He is invisible, unmanifest. He is the Soul of the Soul. He has no emotion, sentiment or passion at all. There is a mysterious or indescribable power in the Shiva Lingam to induce concentration of the mind and helps focus one’s attention. The contents of sage Vyasa is corroborated with the instance of that Arjuna fashioned a Lingam out of clay when worshipping Lord Shiva. Similarly, in Ramayana that before crossing to Sri Lanka, Rama, Lakshmana and Sita fashioned a Shiva Lingam at Rameswaram for worshipping Lord Shiva and also that Ravana could not lift the Lingam after it was placed on the ground by the small boy. These instances show that God may be conceptualized and worshipped in any convenient form. It is the divine power that it represents, is all that matters and here we see that both Arjuna in Maha Bharatha and Rama and Sita worshipping Lord Shiva as Nirguna Brahman or the formless Supreme Being.

The outcome of the scientific research is that the world came into existence with the formation of Molecules. According to Science, two atoms make one Molecule. The valency of molecules indicates the combination of the atoms.

It is essential to have a clear idea of the structure of an atom according to the findings of the Danish scientist, Neils Bohr., the nature of which is given below.

An atom is made up of Proton, Neutron and Electron.

Neutrons do not have a charge and so would continue on in a straight line.

The nucleus of an atom is composed of positively charged Protons and neutrally charged Neutrons. Almost all the mass of an atom is in its nucleus. The nucleus is the very dense region consisting of Protons and Neutrons at the centre of an atom.

Electrons are negatively charged and so would be deflected on a curving path towards the positive plate.

But the whole atom is electrically neutral on account of the presence of equal number of negative electrons and positive protons.

The electrons revolve rapidly round the nucleus in circular paths called energy level. The energy levels are counted from centre outwards.

Each energy level is associated with a fixed amount of energy.

There is no change in energy of Electrons as long as they help revolving in the same energy level and the atoms remain stable.

The Bohr model shows that the electrons in atoms are in orbits of differing energy around the nucleus. It is like planets orbiting the Sun.

An examination of the image of Shiva Lingam in the context of Bohr model, would demonstrate the puzzling truth that Brahma has created the world. The behaviour of Proton, Electron, Neutron and Energy are well demonstrated by Shiva Lingam.’.

Source.https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/shiva-lingam-some-scientific-truths/

Shiva lingam consists of two parts.

The perpendicular part,Linga and the base on which it rests, Avudayaar.

(Many jokers, inspired by Western misinformation and titillated by anything below the navel had called Shiva lingam as a Phallic symbol,which I have rubbished in my article).

Shiva lingam has three parts.

Rudra Baaga,part assigned to Manifestation,Brahma,

Sustaining part,Vishnu Baaga and

Dissolution part, Brahma Bhaaga.

The Brahma Bhaaga is embedded in the base Avudayaar,The Sakthi Baaga.

Abhisheka is performed for the top portion Rudra Bhaaga.

Shiva is not an individual name.

It is a quality.

Siva means auspiciousness.

Siva has five functions.

Manifestation, Srishti,

Maintanence or Sustanence,Stithi,

Samhara, Dissolution,

Thirodhaana, Hiding and

Anugraha,Compassion, Blessing,Revealation.

It is worth noting that the same five attributes are provided to Lalitha Devi.

‘Srusti karthre Brahma Roopa,

Goptre Govinda roopini

Samharini Rudra Roopa,

Thirodhaana karesswari,

Sadasivanugrahathaa Pancha krithya Parayana-Lalitha Sahasranamam.

Tradition has it that Siva is the dynamic principle and

Sakthi as the Dormant, energy principle.

The power of Shiva is from the invisible dormant Sakthi.

Sakthi in Tamil means power, energy.

It is said that Shiva without Sakthi is Sava, without Life.

Shiva with Sakthi runs the Universe and is the Universe.

In terms of physics known to us,Shiva is matter ,while Sakthi is antimatter,with Anti matter particles,that is Electron with positive charge,Proton with Negative charge and Neutron being Neutral.

When matter and Anti matter come into contact,the result is Zero, Infinite Energy.

This concept is explained in Avudayaar.

The power to dissolve is invisible and it’s action is responsible for dissolution and regeneration as it can happen only with energy.

The Avudayaar contains the Dissolution principle,Sakthi and the manifestation principle,Brahma.

There is an archeological site in Sri Lanka which contains the Inverted Linga with seven concentric circles.

Watch video and explanations.

Was Lord Krishna an Irresponsible Father?


I have received a comment on Lord Krishna being an irresponsible father, asking me for an explanation.

I have reproduced the comment towards the close of the article.

The comment has two parts.

One,Lord Krishna being an irresponsible father

and

Upbringing of children today.

Hinduism is a practical Religion.

It understands obligations and also the limitations of people in changing others,even it be they are of your Blood.

Before understanding the behaviour of Lord Rama, Krishna,one must understand the approach of Hinduism on Patenting.

It does not accord Parenting any special place or does it ignore it.

It treats as a routine affair of Life and treats is such…..

It considers all these as a Natural process and one need not be overly concerned about this as such.

The Vedas offer basic Guide lines.

1.Dharmachara, Righteous Conduct.

Behavior should be according to the Dharma, Moral Principle.

Parents are expected to behave he way they expect their children to behave towards them or others when they become adults.

Parents are prohibited from using vulgar language or the use of harsh words in front of their children.

2.Dharma Svagriha.

Worship at Home.

Parents should set an examples of following the Anushtaanas laid down for them in the Shastras.

Parenting in Hinduism

Beyond these guidelines one does not find anything much about Parenting in Hinduism.

Apart from laying the foundation to be a good Human being,by setting a personal example and sending to a a teacher of impeccable character and learning,parents in Hinduism do not interfere.

There is a saying in Dharma SASTRA.

‘Treat your son as

A King till till Five,

Treat as a slave till 15, and as

A friend thereafter.

Stages of Life in an individual is classified into four.

Brahmacharya,the Celibate stage,

Gruhastha, Married Stage,

Vanaprastha,Stage of leaving the family affairs to the eldest and leaving for Forest to meditate on Reality with spouse if she desires, and

Sanyasa,total Renunciation.

Aware of the fact that one can not do much to change one’s Swabhava, Natural disposition,people limited themselves to what is possible and stopped at that.

They did not set impossible goals in Life, including changing others,even it be wife or children.

One performs as his Swabhava.

This is reflected in ancient social life.

Take Lord Ram’s case.

He obeyed his parents unconditionally.

He loved his relatives,be it Lakshman or Bharatha.

He was accessible to his devotees, like Hanuman.

He was harsh towards his enemies,Ravana.

Yet the reason for all this is Dharma, loosely translated as Righteousness.

Rama performed all these actions so long as they were in conformity with Dharma.

The moment an instance is against Dharma,he would not hesitate to be against people whom he loves dearest.

He sent a pregnant Sita Away from home, because there was a slur,though he knew it was false.

He resorted to this step as as A King His Dharma is to set an example for His subjects however painful the act could be for him

He fought against his sons and Hanuman as it would be a bad example as a King to have his children and devotee to raise against him , however justified they might have been from their standpoint.

Once the issue was resolved he took them back.

Dharma was the cardinal principle and not relationships.

Relationships belong to Apara Vidya stage,lower Knowledge.

Para Supreme knowledge is by following scriptures and Dharma.

While Rama followed Karma Yoga,the Path of Knowledge thus,Lord Krishna belongs to another Higher level in performing Karma.

Rama had a conscious goal while performing can action and was looking forward to its results being favourable to him, Krishna had no such thoughts.

He performed an action because it ought to be performed, period.

It did not matter to Krishna who ruled Among Pandavas or Kauravas,both being his relatives:he would not an inch of land from either of them or any other favour,not that Krishna needed anything from anyone!

Yet he took the side of Pandavas for it was Dharma to be with just cause.

Krishna practiced what he preached in Bhagavad-Gita.

Renouncing the determination of the fruits of His actions.

Karma Sankalpa Thyaga.

Lord Rama was not in the same league,he practised one aspect of Karma Yoga.

As to Samba.

The incidents narrated are found in The Vishnu Purana as well.

One additional information.

After Samba was cursed, the Rishis came to Krishna and sought His forgiveness for their act in cursing his son,Samba.

Krishna replied,

‘ Why do you worry?

You have done your Dharma.

I should reap the consequence of my action in Rama Avatar,of killing Vaali from Behind a tree.

I should face the consequences for that.

The Yadava Vamsa is growing by leaps and bounds and it should stop to reduce the weight,Basra of Bhoomi,earth.

And I should have an excuse to shed this Body.

You have obliged me by cursing Samba’

That’s it.

While we remember Samba,who was a bad apple,how many know of Pradyumna Krishna’s other son,who was valiant and built a city in Port Barzhyn in Russia,which has been found?

Everyone has one’s destiny.

Shall write on present day parenting.

The comment I received.

Namaste. Devdutt patnaik is raising questions as below. Need help to respond pls.
One of the most disturbing stories that we find in the Puranas is the story of Krishna’s son Samba, whose mother was the bear-princess, Jambavati.

He dupes his father’s junior wives by disguising himself as Krishna and is cursed by Krishna that he will suffer from a skin disease that will enable his wives to distinguish father and son. Samba is cured after he builds temples to the sun. All sun temples in India, from Konark in Odisha to Modhera in Gujarat to Markand in Kashmir, are attributed to this son of Krishna.

Samba also attempts to kidnap Duryodhana’s daughter and this leads to war between the Kauravas and the Yadavas. Peace is restored, and the marriage is solemnised, only after Balarama, Krishna’s elder brother, and Samba’s uncle, in a fit of fury threatens to drag Hastinapur into the sea.

Then there is the story of Samba pretending to be a pregnant woman and duping sages who were visiting Dwaraka. They sages were not amused and cursed Samba that he would give birth to an iron mace that would be responsible for the end of the Yadu clan.

Must not Krishna’s son be as noble and divine and wise and loving as Krishna? But that is not so. Samba comes with his own personality and his own destiny over which Krishna has no influence. Or does he?

Can we wonder if Samba was a product of his father’s neglect? For was not Krishna spending most of his time with Arjuna and the Pandavas and in the politics of Kuru-kshetra?

There are hardly any stories of Krishna as father. He is friend, philosopher and guide to Arjuna, but the only stories of father and son are of tension, rage and violence.

In conversations about corporates, we often forget about the other half of our lives, the personal one. As more and more people are working 24×7, thanks to Internet, and smart devices, the lines between professional and personal, work and life are getting blurred. In fact, people feel noble when they sacrifice family for work and guilty when they take a holiday to take care of their family.

Family is not seen as achievement. Children are not seen as purpose. They are seen as obligations, duties, by-products of existence, even collateral damage.

We admire leaders who sacrifice family for a ‘larger’ cause. Like freedom fighters who neglect their wives and children. Like business men and entrepreneurs and consultants who spend most of their time in office.

With the rise of feminism, women are also working. Parenting has been outsourced to maids, teachers, computers, videogames and grandparents.

Women who work in the office have not been compensated by their husbands spending more time at home. Instead women are made to feel guilty for not being good mothers. No one questions men for not being good fathers. Eventually, the office wins. Absent parents rationalise how office is more important than the children: we need the money, the children eventually grow up, surely our needs are also important.

Many great Krishnas in the workplace discover that they have nurtured Samba at home: sons who either follow destructive paths as they seek attention, or sons who make their way away from parents, as they have grown used to not having them around. Who wins?

Corporates were supposed to create wealth for the family. Now families are creating only workers for the corporates.

We have many more Krishnas in this generation and maybe many Sambas in the next.

As written *By Devdutt Pattanaik*

Thought Provoking …

👆

Indus Valley Civilization 100,000 Sq.km National Academy of Sciences Science News


I have been writing on Sanatana Dharma and Indian history for nine years now.

I do this with an open mind to verify facts,events mentioned in ancient Hindu texts.

I have been able to confirm that the Sanatana Dharma was atleast 50,000 years old,

Veda period extended to that period,

There was a parallel Religious system in Lemuria, Home of Tamil,which is around 230 million years old,

Chidambaram Nataraja Temple is around 74,000 years old,

Tirupati is 2100 million years old,

Thiruvannamalai is 3.94 Billion years old,

Size of Tamil/ Lemuria was 64,000 square miles.

And more.

I recall having written about the size of Vedic civilisation and its size .

But I am unable to locate it now.

I have also written on Hindus having lived 74,000 years ago.

That a million year old advanced Tamil site near Chennai quotes Vedas.

Now more updates on Indus valley , Harappan civilisations.

It has been believed that it is about 5000 years old.

No.

It dates back further.

And it’s size.

A million square kilometres, extending to Sumeria.

Once extending more than 1 million square kilometers across the plains of the Indus River from the Arabian Sea to the Himalayas and the Ganges, over what is now Pakistan, northwest India and eastern Afghanistan, the Harappan civilization was the largest of the first great urban cultures that also included Egypt and Mesopotamia (Liviu Giosan / Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution / Stefan Constantinescu / University of Bucharest / James P.M. Syvitski / University of Colorado)
The Harappan (or Indus) civilization was the largest — but least known — of the first great urban cultures that also included Egypt and Mesopotamia. Like their contemporaries, the Harappans, named for one of their largest cities, lived next to rivers owing their livelihoods to the fertility of annually watered lands...

Once we had this new information on the geological history, we could re-examine what we know about settlements, what crops people were planting and when, and how both agriculture and settlement patterns changed,” said co-author Dr Dorian Fuller, an archaeologist at the University College London.

The findings, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, show that the decline in monsoon rains led to weakened river dynamics, and played a critical role both in the development and the collapse of the Harappan culture, which relied on river floods to fuel their agricultural surpluses.’

Source.

https://pin.it/ge7gswgxae7ndl

Tamil Death Chant Karna Mantra Abhirami Andhadi


Of all the paths to realize God,Bhakti Yoga,Path of Devotion,though seemingly easier than the other three paths,Path of Knowledge,Gnana Yoga,Raja Yoga,Path of disciplining the body and mind to channelise Consciousness,Karma Yoga ,Path of doing away with the determination for the fruits action,is very difficult.

Abhirami Thirunavukkarasar.Image
Goddess Abhirami

It is very easy to say I surrender to God.

But in reality we do not.

Whereas in Karma Yoga,one has to renounce the Sankalp for the fruits of action,not merely the result..

This is Karma Yoga at its best.

Hence, the Death chant of Hinduism,Karna Mantra is from the Bhagavad-Gita.

sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah

SYNONYMS

sarva-dharman–all varieties of Dharma; parityajya–abandoning;mam–unto Me; ekam–only; saranam–surrender; vraja–go; aham–I;tvam–you; sarva–all; papebhyah–from sinful reactions; moksayisyami–deliver; ma–not; sucah–worry.

Abandon all varieties of Religion, Dharma and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction and grant you Salvation. Do not fear.

Here Lord Krishna uses the rarely used form of address to speak to Arjuna.

That is ‘Ma Sucha’

This is a term of endearment by a Father to his son.’

Death Chant of Hinduism,Karna Mantra

In Tamil Abhirami Andhadi by Abhirami Bhattar gives out the essence of both Bhakti Yoga and Karma Yoga.

He says,

‘As death, dictated by my actions stalks nearby,May you assure me not to be afraid,

I shall always think of,and call you as Mother when I perform an action,

Abhirami,the one who fills the consciousness of of the Seekers’

Greatness of the poem lies in the fact that one’s own death and mode of death is determined by one’s actions,

And one willing God not merely at the time of death or difficulties but at all times!

இழைக்கும் வினைவழியே, அடும்காலன் எனை நடுங்க
அழைக்கும் பொழுது அஞ்சல் என்பாய், அத்தர் சித்தமெல்லாம்
குழைக்கும் களப குவிமுலை யாமளை கோமளமே
உழைக்கும் பொழுது உன்னையே அன்னையே என்பன் ஓடிவந்தே
பொருள்:
அத்தர் – சிவபெருமான்
சிவபெருமானின் சித்தம் அனைத்தையும் தன்வயத்தில் வைத்திருக்கும், சந்தனக் குவியல் போன்ற முலைகளை கொண்டிருக்கும் அழகிய இளைய பெண்ணே, நான் செய்த தீவினையால், என் இறுதி காலத்தில், கொடிய எமன் என்னை துன்புறுத்தும் போது, எனக்கு அச்சம் உண்டாகும் போது, அன்னையான உன்னை அழைப்பேன். அப்போது, நீ “அஞ்சேல்” என்று ஓடிவந்து அருள் செய்வாய்.
He adds later, about total surrender,this
Be it This or Bad for me, I know nothing,
For I have given you what all I have , long back,
Real Karna Mantra in Tamil
பாடல் 33 (ராகம் – சிவரஞ்சனி, தாளம் – ஆதி) கேட்க:

நன்றே வருகினும், தீதே விளைகினும், நான் அறிவது
ஒன்றேயும் இல்லை, உனக்கே பரம், எனக்கு உள்ள எல்லாம்
அன்றே உனது என்று அளித்து விட்டேன், அழியாத குணக்
குன்றே, அருட்கடலே, இமவான் பெற்ற கோமளமே

பொருள்:
அபிராமி, அழியா குணக்குன்று. த்ரிகுணாம்பா என்று ஸ்ரீ லலிதா சஹஸ்ரநாமம் அழைக்கிறது. மூன்று குணங்களுக்கும் (சத்வம், ரஜஸ், தமஸ்) தலைவி என்று பொருள். குணத்ரய விபாவினி என்று தேவி மாஹத்மியத்தில், முதல் அத்தியாயம் மது கைடப வத வர்ணனையில், அம்பாளை பிரம்மா புகழ்கிறார்.
இமவான் பெற்ற கோமளம் – மலையரசன் ஹிமவான் பெற்ற அழகிய செல்வம். ஹைமவதி என்று அம்பாளுக்கு ஒரு நாமம். ஹேமம், ஹைமம் என்றால் தங்கம். இமயம் – தங்கம் போன்ற உயர்ந்த மலை.
அருட்கடல் – அருள் நிறைந்த கடல் அம்பாள்.
அன்னையே, அழியா குணக்குன்றே, அருட்கடலே, மலையரசன் பெற்ற அழகிய செல்வமே, எனக்கென்று ஒன்றும் வைத்துக்கொள்ளாது, எல்லாம் உன்னுடையது என்று ஆக்கிவிட்டேன். அதனால், நன்மையோ தீமையோ எதுவும் என்னை ஒன்றும் செய்யாது. இரண்டிற்கும் வேறுபாடு அறியாதவனாகி விட்டேன். விருப்பு வெறுப்பு அற்றவனானேன். உனக்கே பரம் என்று என்னை ஆக்கினேன். என்று பட்டர் பாடுகிறார்.
நமக்கும் இப்படி பட்ட சம தரிசனம் கிடைக்கட்டும்.
பகவத் கீதையில், பகவான் ஸ்ரீ கிருஷ்ணர், “எவன் என்னுள் அனைத்தையும், அனைத்திலும் என்னையும் காண்கிறானோ, அவன் எப்போதும் என் அருகிலேயே இருக்கிறான். என்னை விட்டு விலகுவதே இல்லை.” என்று கூறுகிறார். அதுபோல் அனைத்தும் இறைவனுடையது என்ற எண்ணம் நமக்கு இருந்தால், உலகத்தில் துன்பம் என்பதே கிடையாது. என்றும் இன்பமே. ஆனந்தமே.
பாடல் (ராகம்-நாதநாமக்ரியா, தாளம் – –விருத்தம்–) Abhirami Andhadhi -95

Text and translation.

http://annaiabhirami.blogspot.com/2015/05/33.html?m=1

I have been trying to post this article since morning.

This is the fourth draft.

As my readers are aware, I never prepare drafts and I write as it comes to me.

This is one of the reasons for my articles being raw.

And spelling mistakes.

Right from morning, the material never got saved, despite the fact wordpress automatically saves as you write.

I tried saving manually to be sure.

No effect. I tried from my Tab and two mobiles.

This is my fourth attempt.

What is published here is totally different what I intended to write !

Before publishing now, I decided that this would be my last attempt to publish the article.

Well, now, it is published.

I don’t know why.

Probably She Knows!

Meaning Of Bharat India ‘ Where The Sun Delights Firstly’


Treasures of Hinduism can be found in the Vedas, Puranas,Ithihasas Ramayana and Mahabharatha.

Unfortunately many of us do not know Sanskrit.

Many assume that it is an arcane and difficult language.

This myth has been perpetrated to ensure we do not find our roots.

At least now we can try learning Sanskrit, bedrock of our Identity and Culture.

Most of the references to identify places, events in History this blog publishes is because of these treasures.

The Kishkinda and Sundara Kanda of Ramayana provides information about Historical refetences to Geographical locations and Indian presence around the world.

I have written on Nazca Lines of Peru, Cooke’s island,Americas and many more.

Be it history,philosophy,science or arts, you will find them in tgese texts.

Now to the point of the Name Bharat given to India.

It is assumed to be named after Bharata,First Emperor of Jambudweepa.

He was the son of Sakunthala and Dhushyanta and was tutored by Sage Viswamitra.

It is stated that the name Bharat is derived from the name of Emperor Bharata.

Somehow I was not really convinced by the explanation.

True Puranas, Ramayana , Mahabharatha and other texts refer to the landmass as Bharata.

Again there is a distinction.

Bharatavarsha and Bharata kanda.

Entire landmass was referred to as Bharatavarsha, while the Indian landmass was designated as Bharata Kanda.

Check Sankalpa by Brahmins.

JAMBHU DWEEPE BHARATHA VARSHE BHARATHA KANDE

There is no sense in mentoring Bharata twice.

While the first one refers to the landmass in Jambu Dweepa, Island of Jambhu trees, the Kande refers to the territory ruled by Emperor Bharata.

Hinduism has never been the one to name places after personalities.

All Concepts have their roots in Philosophy, Universal Facts, mostly relating to Astronomy.

Years in Hindu calendar denote qualities of the year in question, that is the general predictions for the year.

On checking up facts on the name of Bharata, I found that the name Bharata is from the attribute of the landmass India.

The landmass is the place which enjoys the first rays of the sun.

Even today we call the far eastern countries as land of the Rising Sun, Japan.

Read the refrence in Ramayana, Kishkinda Kanda.

‘ ‘उत्तरेण परिक्रम्य जंबू द्वीपम् दिवाकरः |
दृश्यो भवति भूयिष्ठम् शिखरम् तन् महोच्छ्रयम् || ४-४०-५९

59. divaakaraH = day-maker [Sun]; jambuu dviipam uttareNa parikramya = to Jambu Dwiipa, by north, on circling; mahat ucChrayam tat shikharam = zenithal, that, pinnacle; [praapya = on reaching];bhuuyiSTham dR^ishyaH bhavati = by far, discernable, he will be.

“The Sun is by far discernable in Jambu Dwiipa when he rises on this zenithal pinnacle Saumanasa, after he had circled the Jambu Dwiipa in a northerly route. [4-40-59]

The sunrises in the East on the peak of this Saumanasa which is on the zenith of Udaya Mountain. Then he traverses above Jambu Dwiipa, Indian Subcontinent, including South-East Asia, and sets in the West on the mountains called asta adri, ‘ the Sunset Mountain.’ Then he courses northerly on the other side of the globe via Mt. Meru in heavens at the other side of Jambu Dwiipa, only to rise again on this Mt. Sunrise. As Jambu Dwiipa, the subcontinent lies southerly to that heavenly Mt. Meru, and down East-South of Saumanasa, this subcontinent can happily see the First Sun, daily. This gives raise to the Indian name of India, that is Bhaarata, bhaa rataH Sun, delights…’ The place where the Sun delights firstly, that is bhaarata...’

Reference and citation.

Excellent site for rare information on Ramayan and Sanatana Dharma.

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga40/kishkindha_5F40_frame.htm

At Kailash Man Ages 28 Times Faster Strange Sounds Russian Study


Mount Kailash,the Abode of Lord Shiva is home for mysteries.

Mount Kailash seem to have some unique characteristics.

It is too regular to be a Natural Phenomenon.

It is connected to other sacred sites.

It is connected to Iraq, previously a part of Sumeria and to Romania.

A secret tunnel connecting Kailash to Iraq and Romania is found.

Bucegi Mountains.

Highly advanced concepts in Science are found in the Vedas and they are validated by latest developments in Modern Science.

So it comes to me as no surprise that there exists a maze of tunnel networks throughout the world.

All of these have one thing in common.

Mount Kailash!

The Abode of Lord Siva was reported to contain a Huge Pyramid underneath and there were beings from another dimensions.

Source. https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/09/09/kailash-shiva-romania-iraq-interconnected-underground-tummels/

The place,a mountain to which Kailash is connected by an underground tunnel has a room, where if one touches a Tablet,it is reported that one’s past,future and the evolution of Cosmos flash by.

Kailash centre of the Cosmos. Man Made Pyramid.

The Axis Mundi, the centre of the universe, the navel of the world, the world pillar, Kang Tisé or Kang Rinpoche (the ‘Precious Jewel of Snow’ in Tibetan), Meru (or Sumeru), Swastika Mountain, Mt. Astapada, Mt. Kangrinboge (the Chinese name) – all these names, real or legendary, belong to one of the holiest and most mysterious mountains in the world – Mount Kailas. Both geography and mythology play roles in the sacred significance of Mount Kailas. This holy mountain rises to an altitude of 6714 meters. It cannot compete with peaks in the nearby Himalayan range, which includes Mount Everest, and its grandeur lies not in height but in its distinct shape – four sheer faces marking the cardinal points of the compass – and its solitary location, free of neighboring mountains that might dwarf or obscure it. Mt. Kailas is regarded as the earthly manifestation of the Hindus’ mythic Mount Meru, or Sumeru, the spiritual center of the universe, the axis mundi in Buddhist and Jain as well as Hindu cosmology. Source.

Kailash Iraq Romania interconnected tunnel.

It is also reported that as one sets his sights on the Peak ,the peak keeps shifting.

And one ages 28 Times faster in Kailash than under normal conditions in Two weeks!

Another mysterious aspect about the mountain concerns the rapid aging of those who visited the area. After spending 12 hours in the region, the length of nails and hair is equal to two weeks in normal conditions! Is this caused by some energy surrounding this mysterious place?

Ancient Pages.

There are various incidents narrated in Indian Purana and Tamil literature on Age related issues.

King Pururavas shed his old age by exchanging it with his son.

In Tamil,the Saint Karaikkal Ammayaar became one, on her wish granted by Lord Shiva and she reached Kailash with the help of Shiva and she has the distinction of being called as Mother by Lord Shiva.

And Saint Thirunavukkarasar,when he became old traveled to Kailash by rolling on the ground and on reaching Kailash,Shiva gave Darshan at the spot where The Saint was.

Strange sounds are heard in the nights.

 Mount Kailash is sacred for Hindus, Buddhists and Jains. Source: Ondřej Žváček/wikipedia

Mount Kailash is sacred for Hindus, Buddhists and Jains.

Dr Ernst Muldashev, a Russian ophthalmologist based in Ufa, came up with a theory that Mount Kailash in Tibet is actually an ancient manmade pyramid that is surrounded by smaller pyramids and is linked to pyramids in Giza and Teotihuacan.

Standing at 6718 metres above sea level, Mount Kailash in Tibet is considered sacred by Hindus, Buddhists and Jains. Hindus believe that Lord Shiva, the destroyer of evil, sits in perpetual meditation on the mountain. Tibetan Buddhists believe that the Buddha Demchok, who represents supreme bliss, lives on the mountain.

No human has managed to scale Mount Kailash. There have been many legends of people dying in the attempt to climb the mountain. The Chinese authorities, knowing the religious sensitivity of the matter, have officially banned alpinists from attempting a climb.

Russians, like Indians, have been fascinated with the mountain for a long time. Nicholas Roerich wrote about Mount Kailash and one of his most famous paintings portrays the path to the mountain.

There are several legends about Russian climbers in the 19th and early 20thcenturies trying to scale the mountain and vanishing. A Siberian mountaineer once told me about a group of climbers who climbed beyond a particular point and suddenly aged by a few decades. According to his story, they died of old age a year later!

Roerich believed in the existence of a mystical kingdom called Shambala in the vicinity of Mount Kailash. Some Hindu sects refer to Shambala as Kapapa, and believe that perfect people reside there.

In 1999, Russian ophthalmologist Ernst Muldashev decided to go on an expedition to Tibet to try and discover the secrets of Mount Kailash. His team comprised of experts in geology, physics and history.

The team met several Tibetan lamas and spent several months around the foot of the sacred mountain.

Manmade pyramid?

Muldashev’s team came to the conclusion that Mount Kailash is actually a massive man-made pyramid that was built in ancient times. He claimed that it was surrounded by many smaller pyramids and could be the centre of all paranormal activities.

Dr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASS

Dr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASSDr Ernst Muldashev. Source: Mikhail Fomichev/TASS

In the silence of the night, there often were strange gasping sounds in the belly of the mountain,” Muldashev, author of ‘Where Do We Come From?,’ wrote in an academic paper. “One night both my colleagues and I distinctly heard the noise of a falling stone that undoubtedly came from the interior (of the mountain).” He suggested that some beings lived inside the pyramid.

“In Tibetan texts it is written that Shambhala is a spiritual country that is located in the north-west of Kailash,” Mulsashev wrote. “It is hard for me to discuss this topic from a scientific point of view. But I can quite positively say that Kailash complex is directly related to life on Earth, and when we did a schematic map of the ‘City of the Gods,’ consisting of pyramids and stone mirrors, we were very surprised – the scheme was similar to the spatial structure of DNA molecules.”

Mohan Bhatt, a Sanskrit scholar based in Mumbai, says the Ramayana also refers to the sacred mountain as a pyramid. There are also references to the moutain in the vedas he adds. “The ancient texts refer to the mountain as a cosmic axis,” he says.

Muldashev believes that the pyramids were built by ancient and advanced people who knew about the laws of subtle energy. He wrote that the mountain is the most important part of a system of ancient monumental structures and is directly connected with the main pyramids of the earth such as the pyramids of Giza and Teotihuacan.

Onwards to the Past, a Russian-English bilingual website explores this theory in great details.’

-Source. https://www.rbth.com/blogs/tatar_straits/2017/02/24/when-a-russian-doctor-tried-to-crack-the-mystery-of-the-abode-of-lord-shiva_707558

Scientists are unable to answer these mysteries.

Shiva Linga Design Atlantis City Found Spain


I have written quite a few articles on Lemuria,Kumarikanadam,and Atlantis.

In the west it was first mentioned by Plato in Dialogues.

I have theorized,based on available evidence on the three land masses, Lemuria, Kumarikandam and Lemuria, Sanskrit references to Shiva’s Three Rotating cities and Tamil Classics’s reference and description of Kumarikandam,it’s boundaries, population Trinetra Dance of Shiva among Australian tribes,Nazca Lines,Peru,resembling Shiva’s Trident, description of Cooke’s Island,New Zealand in Sundarakanda of Ramayan, Natural Vishnu Temple, ,Quadrilateral Temple of Shiva in Grand canyon,US ,Tamil language being spoken in Cameroon even today by the Aborigines and a host of other evidence,that Atlantis abutted Lemuria.

And extended up to present Americas.

Atlantis was peopled by fair-skinned people and Dark skinned people.

Shiva linga in Mexico City Temple

Shiva linga in Saint Peter’s Cathedral Square

Shiva’s Tripura was located in Atlantis.

Also description of The city of Bandasura’s city in Lalitha Sahasranama,matches the underwater structures found off the Coast of Central America and Cuba.

New evidence unearthed off the Coast off Spain shows a city with three concentric rings and the lay out is Shiva Lungs with Avudayaar (base).

The team of archaeologists and geologists in 2009 and 2010 used a combination of deep-ground radar, digital mapping and underwater technology to survey the site.

Freund’s discovery in central Spain of a strange series of “memorial cities,” built in Atlantis’ image by its refugees after the city’s likely destruction by a tsunami, gave researchers added proof and confidence, he said.

Atlantean residents who did not die in the tsunami fled inland and built new cities there, he added.

The team’s conclusions are detailed in “Finding Atlantis,” a National Geographic Channel special.

image information.
computer graphic shows the concentric rings that may have existed during Atlantis’ ancient heyday. Scientists have seen evidence of such submerged structures beneath the vast marshlands of southern Spain’s Dona Ana Park.

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Greek philosopher Plato wrote about Atlantis 2,600 years ago, describing it as “an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Hercules,” as the Straits of Gibraltar were known in antiquity.

Using Plato’s detailed account of Atlantis as a map, searches have focused on the Mediterranean and Atlantic as the best possible sites for the city. Researchers have previously proposed that Atlantis was located on the Greek island of Santorini , the Italian island of Sardinia or on Cyprus .

Tsunamis in the region have been documented for centuries, Freund says. One of the largest was a reported 10-story tidal wave that slammed Lisbon in November 1755.

Debate about whether Atlantis truly existed has lasted for thousands of years. Plato’s “dialogues” from around 360 B.C. are the only known historical sources of information about the iconic city. Plato said the island he called Atlantis “in a single day and night … disappeared into the depths of the sea.”

Experts plan further excavations at the site where they believe Atlantis is located and at the mysterious “cities” in central Spain 150 miles away to more closely study geological formations and to date artifacts.

This report includes information from Reuters and msnbc.com. “Finding Atlantis,” a documentary about the search for the city’s ruins, will air on Tuesday on the National Geographic Channel.’

Source.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42072469/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/lost-city-atlantis-believed-found-spain/

How To Wear Upaveeda Poonal Jaanu Pracheena Veedhi Niveedha


One of the primary duties of Brahman, Kshatriya and Vaisya to wear Upaveeda,Jaanu, பூணூல்.

Upaveeda is worn after Upa Nayana.

One is called Dwija,who is born for the second time.

When an individual is born,he is clouded with Ignorance.

With no awareness of Reality.

After. Initiated into Brahmacharya,

the first station in Life,the others being Married (Gruhastha),Semi retirement from worldly affairs(Vanaprastha) and Renunciation at things Material,Sanyasa,one is empowered to enter the path of Spirituality.

Upa Nayana means ,’being taken near to Brahman,The Reality.

A Perceptor,Guru takes the Sishya, Disciple near Brahman.

Another explanation is that is after Upa Nayana,the second eye,as it were,is opened towards Reality.

Upa Nayana is to be performed before

The age of,

Eight for Brahmins,

Twelve for Kshatriya,

Sixteen for Vaisya.

Upaveeda is worn across the left shoulder while performing Auspicious Duties,

Across the Right shoulder, while performing Inauspicious duties and Pitru Karma (Pracheena Veedhi)and as

Niveedhi, around the neck like a garland when we perform our worldly duties.

Reference. Sandhya Vandana by Anna Subrahmanya Iyer,RK Mutt Publications.

Yoga 9000 BC Pasupathi Seal Rig Veda Poompuhar Chennai Evidence


Yoga, a system of Indian Thought for Realisation of Self,is classified as Raja Yoga,Path of Channelizing Consciousness by Physical and Mental discipline.

Realisation is ,

Cessation of Modifications of Chitta.
-Patanjali Yoga Sutra.

Chitta is a higher plane, higher than Mind,Intellect.

On successful completion of Yoga,one ,after having removed the Modifications of Chitta,becomes the Reality,though the term ‘becomes’ does not convey the full Import of the term Realisation.

Yoga,has eight steps.

Hence it is called Ashtanga Yoga.

The System of Yoga is widely believed to have been founded by Sage Patanjali.

The Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali are a collection of 196 Indian sutras (aphorisms) on the theory and practice of yoga. The Yoga Sutraswere compiled prior to 400 CE by Sage Patanjali who synthesized and organized knowledge about yoga from older traditions

Citation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_Sutras_of_Patanjali

This places the date of Yoga around Fourth century.

However references to Yoga have been found in Ancient Indian texts such as Ramayana.

And the Vedas.

We have Yoga Vasishta having been imparted to Lord Rama by Sage Vasishta.

Ramayana is currently dated around 5000 BC.

And Rig Veda around 7114BC!

I am not in agreement with both.

The date of the Sunken city of Poompuhar, Tamil Nadu is about 11,000 years ago.
New study provides “incontrovertible evidence” that the volcanic super-eruption of Toba on the island of Sumatra about 73,000 years ago deforested much of central India, some 3,000 miles from the epicenter, researchers report.a The volcano ejected an estimated 800 cubic kilometers of ash into the atmosphere, leaving a crater (now the world’s largest volcanic lake) that is 100 kilometers long and 35 kilometers wide. Ash from the event has been found in India, the Indian Ocean, the Bay of Bengal..

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/poompuhar-find-sets-tamilhinduism-by-atleast-20000-years/

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And there is a Million year old Tamil site near Chennai,Tamil Nadu.

The discovery, described in Nature on Wednesday, pushes back the start of what’s called the Middle Paleolithic culture in the region by more than a hundred thousand years. That, in turn, could reshape how scientists view the global spread of hominins—humans and their ancient relatives..

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2018/02/02/60735/

Tamil quotes Vedas.

And Vedas mention Yoga.

So date of Yoga may be assigned ,at least , a date of 9000 BC.

This is reinforced by the presence of the Pasupathi seal found in Harappa.
There are indications that Indus Valley culture has roots far back into neolithic times (7000 BCE), but current evidence places the active phase of this culture between 3300–1700 BCE, with its high points between 2600–1900 BCE. If a link can be made between this culture and Hinduism it could push the date of Hinduism back many more millennia than current textual evidence allows.

Source.

http://sanskrit.org/hinduism-and-the-indus-valley-civilization/

Pasupathi in Denmark.
The Druids of the ancient Celtic world have a startling kinship with the brahmins of the Hindu religion and were, indeed, a parallel development from their common Indo-European cultural root which began to branch out probably five thousand years ago. It has been only in recent decades that Celtic scholars have begun to reveal the full extent of the parallels and cognates between ancient Celtic society and Vedic culture.

Pasupathinath worshipped in Denmark

Yoga references in Rig Veda

sa dhīnāṁ yogaṁ invati

“He (saH) promotes (invati) the yoga (yogam) of thoughts (dhInAm)”. (He here is again, Brahmaṇaspati) In this mention, it is clear that Rigveda has itself showed to us what the “bay horses yoked by Indra / Brahmanaspati” are, in the more lucid part of first Mandala. Thus, it is clear from the mention that yoga is purely a spiritual activity, it has less got to do with physical exercises in Rigveda.

(Rigveda itself. In 1.18.7)

The second important mention is at 1.30.7 :

yoge yoge tavastaraṁ vāje vāje havāmahe

“In each yoga, we invoke the Strong (Indra); in each struggle”.

The third relevant mention is a part of a very mystic but beautiful hymn of Rigveda, in 10.114.9 :

“kaś chandasāṁ yogaṁ ā veda dhīraḥ
ko dhiṣṇyāṁ prati vācaṁ papāda
kam r̥tvijāṁ aṣṭamaṁ śūraṁ āhur
harī indrasya ni cikāya kaḥ svit”

“who knows the yoga of the metres here, who has gained the “word” (Vak) the subject and object of thoughts? who is called the eighth Hero among the conductors of order? who has perhaps controlled the (two) bay horses of Indra!’

Reference.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-yoga-according-to-rig-Veda/answer/Kiron-Krishnan-1?share=03ef9461&srid=pNfl

Thailand Teachers’ Day Wai Khru Shiva Vishnu Akshatha on Thursday Guru Vaara


That Sanatana Dharma was spread throughout the world in ancient times.

This can be known if one understands ancient geography,when the landmass was different from what we see today,the excavations of Hindi Deities, Symbols from around the world.

From the descriptions of different parts world,geographical in nature,by Valmiki in Ramayana in detail in the Sundarakanda, Description of lands during Rama’s Aswamedha Yaaga in Yuddha Kanda; similar descriptions in eighteen Puranas.

Evidence of Rama in the middle East,

Rama, Dasaratha and Bharatha’s name in the Kings’List of Sumria,

Shiva Lingam in Mecca,

Hanuman, Makaratdwaja in Central America,

Vatican design as Shiva lingam with Avudayaar.

Trinetra Dance of Shiva in Australia,

Pharoahs with Thiruman,Vishnu Marks,

Rama Sita Festival is conducted. In Mexico.

….

I have detailed articles on these and more.

The spread of Sanatana Dharma towards middle East was more ancient and widespread.

Korean queen was from Ayodhya,India

The four Vedas are called Chatur Vedas there.

The customs of Hinduism are present in the Far East even today.

Teachers’ Day is conducted every year in Thailand as Guru Vandana Day.

It is called ‘Wai Khru’ .

Wai Khru ceremony.image
Student representatives present their teachers with offerings during the wai khru ceremony at Wachirawit School, Chiang Mai.

Despite Buddhism shadowing over Hinduism there,the Wai Khru Festival refers to Shiva, Narayana and uses Akshatha,puffed rice on the occasion.

And this festival is celebrated on Thursday, Guru Vaara, which is the day of Guru,Brihaspathi.

TThe wai khru ceremony (Thai: พิธีไหว้ครู, pronounced [wâːj kʰrūː]) is a Thai ritual in which students pay respects to their teachers in order to express their gratitude and formalize the student–teacher relationship. It is regularly held near the beginning of the school year in most schools in Thailand. Wai khru has long been an important rite in the traditional martial and performing arts, as well as in astrology , Thai Massage and other traditional arts; students and performers of Muay Thai and Krabi Krabong, as well as Thai dance and classical music, will usually perform a wai khru ritual at their initiation as well as before performances to pay respect and homage to both their teachers and the deities who patronize their Arts.

The ceremony.

The rituals of wai khru are believed to have derived from ancient animistic beliefs, influenced by the spread of Brahmanism from India. This is evident in the wai khruceremonies of traditional dance and music, where specific mention is made to Ishvara in Thai Massage, where specific mention is made to Shivaga Komarpaj and Narayana, along with other Vedic deities. Wai khru has for most of history existed as a folk tradition, passed on from generation to generation throughout the years.

The wai khru ceremony in its modern form, which is held in most schools today, originated at Triam Udom Suksa School in 1941. The sarabhañña chant was written by Thanpuying Dussadee Malakul Na Ayutthaya (the wife of ML Pin Malakul, director of the school at the time)…

The wai khru ceremonies which take place in most educational institutions in Thailand today generally follow the same form. The ceremony usually begins with a Buddhist prayer ritual in institutions where Buddhism is observed as the official religion, followed by the students’ recitation of the wai khru chant, which expresses respect for and gratitude to the teachers, and asks for the teachers’ blessing of their studies. Following this, a select number of students, usually the representatives of each class, will present the teachers with offerings of flowers, candles and joss sticks arranged on phan (traditional Thai pedestalled trays). This is usually followed by a speech by the headteacher offering the students guidance in their academic career. Many institutions also present student awards and honours during the ceremony.

The traditional offerings for wai khru represent a symbolism of student qualities, namely:

  • Ixora (khem, เข็ม) flowers, which while closed form pointed buds, symbolizing sharp wit,
  • Cynodon dactylon (ya phraek, หญ้าแพรก or Bermuda grass), the rapid growth and resilience of which symbolize perseverance and the ability to learn,
  • Popped rice (khao tok, ข้าวตอก), which symbolizes discipline, and
  • Eggplant flowers, which bow low when nearing fruiting, symbolizing respect and humility.

The ceremony is usually held shortly after the beginning of the first term, on a Thursday, as Thursday is traditionally the day of Brihaspati, Vedic god of wisdom and teachers.

Reference and citation, including Image of Students.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wai_khru

Rama Kings of Thailand

Brahma Vishnu Ayodhya Brahmin Priests of Thailand

Kaundinya Kanchipuram founder Thailand Cambodia Vietnam

Andal Thiruppavai Shiva Thiruvembavai in Thailand

Maternal 🏠 Home Of Subrahmanya Kurukuthurai


Unlike some Religions, Hinduism is a personal one,and not institutionalised.

It is a question of individual choice.

It accepts non believers as well as a part of it,as in the case of Carvakas.

Lord Rama engaged in conversation with Jaabaali,who was a Carvaka,the system that believes that Universe has no case and denies God.

Kurukuthurai Murugan temple.image.

Kurukuthurai Murugan temple .

And the way one realizes God or Self is left to him/her.

The Sruthi, Smriti,both provide guidelines and show the path chosen by those who followed certain procedures and been successful.

It is left to you take it or leave it.

Hinduism is a way of life,not merely a view.

The way one relates to God is left to him/her.

Some can not conceive of Abstract Reality.

So,we have Gods with Name,Form and Attributes.

One relates to God in a way he is comfortable with.

We have people relating to God as,

Father,like Gnanasambhandar,

Mother,as Devi Devotees do,

Child,as Anasuya did,

Friend,as Sundara Murthy Nayanar,

Lover like Meera..

It is also the practice of Hindus to deck up God as they like,

To endow God,the Reality without name and form,with Human attributes,

Quarrel with Him as one would with a fellow human being.

This is what makes Hinduism close to 💓 and it becomes a part of one’s Lifestyle.

In this vein,Lord Subrahmanya is treated as a child.

Subrahmanya is the only God with the Sanskrit ‘su’ to His name, meaning the best.

The word Subrahmanya means Best among Brahmins.

Su+Brahmana.

He is the Guru of His Father Shiva.

Yet He is loved as a child.

He is endowed with Human attributes.

Look at the way He is considered as Human being,just as Shiva is considered as the Family elder by Tamil Kings.

Subrahmanya has six important temples,called Arupadai veedu.

One of them is Thiruchendur,where he resides after Sura Samhara and marrying Devasena, daughter of Indra,chief of Devas.

So Thiruchendur is Murugan’s In laws Home.

What about His Maternal Home?

Krukkuththirai, Thirunelveli,Tamil Nadu.

Murugan, Kurukuthurai. Image.
Lord Subrahmanya, Kurukuthurai.

In Kurukuthurai, there are two Murugan temples, one at the bank of the Tamirabarani and another just above it, commonly called “Mela Koil”.
The rocks at Kurukuthurai are called “Thiruvuruvamalai”, and are considered to be ideal for sculpting deities, which is why the Thiruchendur Senthilandavar deity was sculpted here. The sculptor who conceived Senthilandavar sculpted two identical forms, out of which one is consecrated to the Thiruchendur Temple and the other to Kurukuthurai Mela Koil.
So, it’s because the deity was sculpted out of the Kurukuthurai rock that this place is called the Thiruchendur Murugan’s maternal house.
When the Utsav deity (a deity used for processions) was stolen by Dutch thieves, a new one was immediately created by VadaMalaiappa pillai.
In the meantime, the stolen idol was salvaged, and so the newly-made one was erected in Kurukuthurai’

Reference and citation.

Ramasubramanian in Quora.

How to reach.
Kurukkuthurai Murugan Temple is located at about 9 Kms from Thirunelveli, 160 Kms from Thiruvananthapuram and 170 Kms from Madurai. Nearest Railway Station is located at Thirunelveli. Nearest Airport is located at Thiruvananthapuram and Madurai..

About Kurukuthurai temple design.

Even when the Tamirabharani carried over two lakh cusecs of water during the 1992 floods, the temple and the idol withstood its fury majestically while only a few tiles on the terrace alone got damaged.

“This is due to the quality of construction and thoughtfully designed structure by our ancestors. Since the ancient architects had fully understood the nature of the Tamirabharani, especially during floods, the western side wall of the temple has been designed like the front portion of a ship. Hence, even a furious flood does not affect the sturdiness of the structure,” says Yagna Narayanan, Executive Officer of Swamy Nellaiyappar Temple. The entire Tamirabharani – from Papanasam to Punnaikaayal — is dotted with a number of ‘mandapams’ with granite pillars.

Reference and citation.

https://www-thehindu-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/kurukkuthurai-temple-withstands-rivers-fury-for-over-300-years/article7998458.ece/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHCAFYAYABAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thehindu.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Ftamil-nadu%2Fkurukkuthurai-temple-withstands-rivers-fury-for-over-300-years%2Farticle7998458.ece

Earliest Indians Sanatana Dharma Tamils From Same Village? Lemuria DNA Evidence-Report Nature


I have been attempting ,for the past nine years through this blog, gems of Indian thoughts validation of Sanatana Dharma, Hinduism , Antiquity of Sanskrit,Tamil and the unity of Tamil and Sanatana Dharma.

And the presence of Sanatana Dharma through out the world.

I am basing my articles on Archeology, Astronomy, Architecture,Astro-Archeology, Etymology,Cultural similarities,Tribes, Geology, Plate tectonics, Epigraphy,Starta analysis, infra-red dating,world literature and legends.

Also DNA studies.

Contrary to what was found earlier,the first human migration was from Asia, specifically from South of Vindhya Mountains.

The earliest DNA has been traced to Madurai,Tamil Nadu,India.

There is more.

One finds there is variety and yet at the same time a unity among the people of India.

Nowhere in the world would you find a similar if not identical way of social behaviour among the people of this vast country,India,be it how they eat,the practices from birth to death, entertaining guests…

Apparently diverse,there remains a Unity.

North Indians,that is those residing to the North of Vindhya Mountains are fairer,more outgoing

Those in the South are brown,dark brown,black.

But values systems remain identical.

One difference on the Religious front is that the worship of Shiva is more pronounced in the South.

And the facts concerning Him.

And southerners did not worship fire as found in Vedas.

The researchers showed that most Indian populations are genetic admixtures of two ancient, genetically divergent groups, which each contributed around 40-60% of the DNA to most present-day populations. One ancestral lineage — which is genetically similar to Middle Eastern, Central Asian and European populations — was higher in upper-caste individuals and speakers of Indo-European languages such as Hindi, the researchers found. The other lineage was not close to any group outside the subcontinent, and was most common in people indigenous to the Andaman Islands, a remote archipelago in the Bay of Bengal.

The researchers also found that Indian populations were much more highly subdivided than European populations. But whereas European ancestry is mostly carved up by geography, Indian segregation was driven largely by caste. “There are populations that have lived in the same town and same village for thousands of years without exchanging genes,” says Reich.

Yet all other Deities,Devi,Vishnu,Varuna,Indra and Subrahmanya as Murugan is found in the most ancient available Tamil text, Tholkappiyam.

Why this Anamoly?

Are these people different?

Or are they from the same stock?

The answer lies in DNA.

I am posting excerpts from a study published in Nature,which states that the two apparently different people are from the same village,.

And it is a mixture of two groups.

One resembling Mediterranean and the other from the landmass near Andaman Islands,India.

One group could be the Vedic and another Lemuria.

One has to keep in mind that Himalayas were formed much later to Lemuria,which is about 230 million years old.

“All Indians are pretty similar,” says Chris Tyler-Smith, a genome researcher at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute near Cambridge, UK, who was not involved in the study. “The population subdivision has not had a dominating effect.”

India makes up around one-sixth of the world’s population, yet the South Asian country has been sorely under-represented in genome-wide studies of human genetic variation. The International HapMap Project, for example, includes populations with African, East Asian and European ancestry — but no Indians. The closest the Human Genome Diversity Cell Line Panel of 51 global populations comes is Pakistan, India’s western neighbour. The Indian Genome Variation database was launched in 2003 to fill the gap, but so far the project has studied only 420 DNA-letter differences, called single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs), in 75 genes1.

Caste divisions

Now, a team led by David Reich of the Broad Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Lalji Singh of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology in Hyderabad, India, has probed more than 560,000 SNPs across the genomes of 132 Indian individuals from 25 diverse ethnic and tribal groups dotted all over India.

The researchers showed that most Indian populations are genetic admixtures of two ancient, genetically divergent groups, which each contributed around 40-60% of the DNA to most present-day populations. One ancestral lineage — which is genetically similar to Middle Eastern, Central Asian and European populations — was higher in upper-caste individuals and speakers of Indo-European languages such as Hindi, the researchers found. The other lineage was not close to any group outside the subcontinent, and was most common in people indigenous to the Andaman Islands, a remote archipelago in the Bay of Bengal.

The researchers also found that Indian populations were much more highly subdivided than European populations. But whereas European ancestry is mostly carved up by geography, Indian segregation was driven largely by caste. “There are populations that have lived in the same town and same village for thousands of years without exchanging genes,” says Reich..

https://www.nature.com/news/2009/090923/full/news.2009.935.html

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