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Parents Of Shiva Vishnu and Brahma

In Hinduism on August 24, 2014 at 07:54

There has been a spate of emails to me on this question.

 

And there was the question in Yahoo answers.

 

Between Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, why is Brahma (the creator) worshipped the least ? I am told that it is because Brahma was cursed by somebody. If that is true, this means that our God performed deeds bad enough to be cursed. It also means that there was somebody who also possessed more power that our Creator. Please explain.”

 

Hence this post.

 

Who are the parents of the Trimurtis, Brahma Vishnu and Shiva?

 

Brahma is portrayed as the son of Vishnu in all the Puranas, having come out of Lord Vishnu’s Nabhi(Belly Button)

 

Vishnu Purana says that Rudra was born of Kashyapa so are the Twelve Adhiyas, including Vishnu.

 

Vishnu Purana maintains that Vishnu is the Supreme Lord and the othertwo murthis are from Him.

 

Brahma Purana says that Rudra is the son of Braham(please read y post)

 

Shiva Purana declares that Vishnu and the other Devatas originated from Shiva.

 

There is direct reference to Shiva in the Vedas(read my post)

 

We find that Devi Bhagavatha stating that Devi is the Creator of all the devas including the Trimurthis.

 

The Bhagavad Gita states that Krishna is the Supreme Deity.

 

In the same breath it declares that in whatever form one worships,Krishna grants one’s wishes as That Form.

 

Why such seeming contradictions?

 

Added to this the core philosophy of the Vedas.

 

Para Vidya (beyond this world Knowledge) and Apara Vidya (worldly Vidya.

 

Of Reality without Attributes ,Nirguna Brahman and Relity with Attributes,Saguna Brahman.

 

There is also the interpretation, that Shiva is the Potential energy, Vishnu the Kinetic energy which moves and Brahma, an aspect of Kinetic energy.

 

Let us see what all this means.

 

As ordained by the Vedas, the Para Vidya is Real, that is of realizing the Ultimate Reality.

 

Vedas are uniform in the assertion that the Brahman , Reality is with out Attributes and can , at bes,t be described by the process of exclusion of Attributes, the neti Nyaya,.

 

That is ,trying to determine and explain Reality by excluding the attributes known to Man, like Long, Tall, Short,big,small….

 

That which remains after excluding all these attributes, what does remain?

 

To our limited mind which is conditioned by the twins of Space and Time,it appears to be Zero.

 

This is what the Sunyavadins of Buddhism arrive at.

 

Is that so?

 

Let us look at this with the help of a simple example.

 

A Flower has many attributes, properties,

 

It has colors of various shades, size, shape,smell and more properties which can be perceived by our senses through our mind.

 

When you remove all these what does remain?

 

We can not comprehend that all one can say.

 

There has to be something to hold down integrate all these attributes to present a Flower.

 

It need not mean that there is nothing because we are not aware of it for my mind tells me that the are many  things which I can not KNOW but FEEL.

 

Like Hunger, Thirst, Sex to cite a few examples.

 

Knowing is different from feeling.

 

God can be felt not known.

 

The mind tries to give a description of feelings but never a definition.

 

You can describe Hunger but never define it except by various symptoms.

 

Similarly Reality can be described but never defined for it is beyond us.

 

Tamil Language has two beautiful words for God.

 

Kadavul, One who is beyond Mind.

 

Iraivan, One who permanently resides in the Heart.

 

Heart feels which can not be deciphered by them Mind.

 

Reality comes under this category.

 

So God/Reality can only be felt.

 

Now have N number of individuals with varying dispositions.

 

Depending on one’s disposition one realizes , understands, feels Realty or God.

 

Those who want to see God as a male, Female, a Friend, A child, a Lover …

 

All can realize through any of these approaches.

 

Hinduism looks for God in Man.

 

As such the limitations of Man has to be understood.

 

With the available tools Man has, one has to realize God,Reality.

 

This Hinduism does.

 

So worship of Gods in many forms and many Devatas.

 

This is a step to understanding realizing the Reality.

 

So the Gods described, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are the expressions of this.

 

It is equally essential that, to reinforce Faith in the Mind, to believe that what one follows , is the Best nd Superior to others.

 

This process is called Henotheism.

 

So each Purana declares the deity it is named after as the Best and superior to the others.

 

Hence , Brahman with out attributes is the Reality and the Gods explained in Puranas and their explanations are bit a step to realize Brahman.

 

The question of the parentage of any of these deities do not arise at the Highest level of Knowledge.

 

This also has a logical limitation.

 

The cause for any thing must end at one place,be it Science or Religion.

 

Please read my post  Many Gods in Hinduism, Yes and No.

 

https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/saibabanews/conversations/topics/52678

Secret Of Shiva Aksharas Dakshinamurthy Upanishad

In Hinduism on August 21, 2014 at 09:18

There are two kinds of Gurus.

 

These are embodied in the two Murthis.

 

One is Lord Krishna who explains everything logically by lengthy discussions.

 

The other One is quiet, conveys the message by Silence,

 

Krishna declares in the Bhagavad Gita,

 

“of Languages I am Silence’

 

The Brahman is the embodiment of silence and tranquility.

 

The cessation of the modification of Chitta, is Yoga.

 

 

The turbulence of the mind when stilled is Yoga.

 

There is a Upanishad, Dakshinamurthy Upanishad, which reveals the Truth about Dakshinamurthy Mantra.

 

Dakshinamurthy Upanishad.

 

 

yanmaunavyaakhyayaa maunipaTala.n kshaNamaatrataH .
mahaamaunapada.n yaati sa hi me paramaa gatiH ..
AUM saha naavavatu . saha nau bhunaktu . saha viirya.n karavaavahai .
tejasvinaavadhiitamastu maa vidvishhaavahai ..
AUM shaantiH shaantiH shaantiH ..
AUM brahmaavarte mahaabhaaNDiiravaTamuule mahaasatraaya sametaa
maharshhayaH shaunakaadayaste ha samitpaaNayastattvajij~naasavo
maarkaNDeya.n chira~jiivinamupasametya paprachchhuH kena tva.n 
chira.n jiivasi kena vaanandamanubhavasiiti . paramarahasyashiva\-
tattvaj~naaneneti sa hovaacha . ki.n tatparamarahasyashivatattvaj~naanam.h .
tatra ko devaH . ke mantraaH . ko japaH . kaa mudraa . kaa nishhThaa . 
ki.n tajj~naanasaadhanam.h . kaH parikaraH . ko baliH . kaH kaalaH . 
ki.n tatsthaanamiti . sa hovaacha . yena dakshiNaamukhaH shivo.aparokshiikR^ito
bhavati tatparamarahasyashivatattvaj~naanam.h . yaH sarvoparame kaale 
sarvaanaatmanyupasa.nhR^itya svaatmaanandasukhe modate prakaashate
vaa sa devaH . atraite mantrarahasyashlokaa bhavanti . medhaa
dakshiNaamuurtimantrasya brahmaa R^ishhiH . gaayatrii chhandaH . 
devataa dakshiNaasyaH . mantreNaa~NganyaasaH . AUM aadau nama uchchaarya
tato bhagavate padam.h . dakshiNeti padaM pashchaanmuurtaye padamuddharet.h .. 1.. 

asmachchhabda.n chaturthyantaM medhaaM praj~naaM pada.n vadet.h . 
samuchchaarya tato vaayubiija.n chchha.n cha tataH paThet.h .
agnijaayaa.n tatastveshha chaturvi.nshaaksharo manuH .. 2..

dhyaanam.h .. 
sphaTikarajatavarNaM mauktikiimakshamaalaa\-
     mamR^itakalashavidyaa.n j~naanamudraa.n karaagre .
dadhatamuragakakshya.n chandrachuuDa.n trinetraM
     vidhR^itavividhabhuushha.n dakshiNaamuurtimiiDe .. 3..

mantreNa nyaasaH .
aadau vedaadimuchchaarya svaraadya.n savisargakam.h .
pa~nchaarNa.n tata uddhR^itya antara.n savisargakam.h .
ante samuddharettaaraM manureshha navaaksharaH .. 4..

mudraaM bhadraarthadaatrii.n sa parashuhariNaM baahubhirbaahumekaM
    jaanvaasakta.n dadhaano bhujagabilasamaabaddhakakshyo vaTaadhaH .
aasiinashchandrakhaNDapratighaTitajaTaakshiiragaurastrinetro
    dadyaadaadyaH shukaadyairmunibhirabhivR^ito bhaavashuddhiM bhavo naH .. 5..

mantreNa nyaasaH brahmarshhinyaasaH \-
taaraM bruu.nnama uchchaarya maayaa.n vaagbhavameva cha .
dakshiNaapadamuchchaarya tataH syaanmuurtaye padam.h .. 6..

j~naana.n dehi padaM pashchaadvahnijaayaa.n tato nyaset.h .
manurashhTaadashaarNo.aya.n sarvamantreshhu gopitaH .. 7..

bhasmavyaapaaNDura~NgaH shashishakaladharo j~naanamR^idraakshamaalaa\-
     viiNaapustairviraajatkarakamaladharo yogapaTTaabhiraamaH .
vyaakhyaapiiThe nishhaNNo munivaranikaraiH sevyamaanaH prasannaH 
     savyaalaH kR^ittivaasaaH satatamavatu no dakshiNaamuurtiriishaH .. 8..

mantreNa nyaasaH . ##[##brahmarshhinyaasaH .##]##
taaraM para.n ramaabiija.n vadetsaaMbashivaaya cha .
tubhya.n chaanalajaayaa.n manurdvaadashavarNakaH .. 9..

viiNaa.n karaiH pustakamakshamaalaaM 
     bibhraaNamabhraabhagala.n varaaDhyam.h .
phaNiindrakakshyaM munibhiH shukaadyaiH 
     sevya.n vaTaadhaH kR^itaniiDamiiDe .. 10..

vishhNuu R^ishhiranushhTup chhandaH . devataa dakshiNaasyaH .
mantreNa nyaasaH . 
taara.n namo bhagavate tubhya.n vaTapada.n tataH .
muuleti padamuchchaarya vaasine padamuddharet.h .. 11..

praj~naamedhaapadaM pashchaadaadisiddhi.n tato vadet.h .
daayine padamucchaarya maayine nama uddharet.h .. 12..

vaagiishaaya tataH pashchaanmahaaj~naanapada.n tataH .
 vahnijaayaa.n tatastveshha dvaatri.nshadvarNako manuH .
aanushhTubho mantraraajaH sarvamantrottamotamaH .. 13..

dhyaanam.h .
mudraapustakavahninaagavilasadbaahuM prasannaananaM
   muktaahaaravibhuushhaNa.n shashikalaabhaasvatkiriiTojjvalam.h .
aj~naanaapahamaadimaadimagiraamarthaM bhavaaniipatiM
   nyagrodhaantanivaasinaM paraguru.n dhyaayaamyabhiishhTaaptaye .. 14..

maunamudraa .
so.ahamiti yaavadaasthitiH sanishhThaa bhavati .
tadabhedena mantraamreDana.n j~naanasaadhanam.h .
chitte tadekataanataa parikaraH . a~NgacheshhTaarpaNaM baliH .
triiNi dhaamaani kaalaH . dvaadashaantapada.n sthaanamiti .
te ha punaH shraddadhaanaastaM pratyuuchuH .
katha.n vaa.asyodayaH . ki.n svaruupam.h . ko vaa.asyopaasaka iti .
sa hovaacha . 
vairaagyatailasaMpuurNe bhaktivartisamanvite .
prabodhapuurNapaatre tu j~naptidiipa.n vilokayet.h .. 15..

mohaandhakaare niHsaare udeti svayameva hi .
vairaagyamaraNi.n kR^itvaa j~naana.n kR^itvottaraaraNim.h .. 16..

gaaDhataamisrasa.nshaantyai guuDhamartha.n nivedayet.h .
mohabhaanujasa.nkraanta.n vivekaakhyaM mR^ikaNDujam.h .. 17..

tattvaavichaarapaashena baddha.n dvaitabhayaaturam.h .
ujjiivayannijaanande svasvaruupeNa sa.nsthitaH .. 18..

shemushhii dakshiNaa proktaa saa yasyaabhiikshaNe mukham.h .
dakshiNaabhimukhaH proktaH shivo.asau brahmavaadibhiH .. 19..

sargaadikaale bhagavaanviri~nchi\-
     rupaasyaina.n sargasaamarthyamaapya .
tutoshha chitte vaa~nchhitaarthaa.nshcha labdhvaa 
     dhanyaH sopaasyopaasako bhavati dhaataa .. 20..ya imaaM paramarahasyashivatattvavidyaamadhiite sa sarvapaapebhyo mukto bhavati .
ya eva.n veda sa kaivalyamanubhavatiityupanishhat.h ..
AUM saha naavavatu . saha nau bhunaktu . saha viirya.n karavaavahai .
tejasvinaavadhiitamastu maa vidvishhaavahai ..
AUM shaantiH shaantiH shaantiH ..
iti dakshiNaamuurtyupanishhatsamaaptaa .


http://www.shaivam.org/ssudakshinamurti.htm

 

Sun Bathes Matsya, Fish Avatar Temple

In Hinduism on August 21, 2014 at 08:10

The first Avatar of Lord Vishnu is in the form of a Fish, when He rescued the Vedas, the scriptures of the Hindus from the depths of the ocean.

 

Thee are only a few temples for the Matsya Moorthy.

 

One is in Nagalapuram ,Andhra Pradesh and another at Thuvarimaan Agraharam, situated near Madurai in Tamil Nadu

 

One day of Brahma is called Kalpa.

 

At the end of the day felt sleepy and yawned.

 

The Vedas slipped out of His mouth ,a Demon Somakudu stole them and  hid them in the Ocean.

 

The Vedas are required for Creation by Brahma after Dissolution of the earth and it was approaching.

 

Responding to the Prayers of Brahma, Lord Vishnu took the form of a small fish and eached the beach where Satyavrata Manu was performing his morning Sandhyavandana,moornin Rirual to the Sun god Surya.

 

Manu was a Dravidian King, yet another proof that the Sanatana Dharma originated in the South.

 

The fish sought refuge from Manu.

 

He kept it in a small vessel filled with water.

 

It grew lager than the receptacles irrespective of the size of the receptacle.

 

Manu realized it was Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu explained to him about the theft of the Vedas and assigned Manu the task of collecting Herbs, seeds of plants and animals with the help of the Divine serpent Vasuki and he Saptha Rishis. Seven Sages.

As Manu went about this job, Vishnu Killed Somakuda ,restored the Vedas and handed them back to Brahma.

* This part about Somakudu stealing is in some versions.

 

Generally this Avatar is to save the world from Deluge.

As the deluge began, the Fish tied to a Boat with the Serpent Vasuki,  with all the seeds ,sages,Manu and animals, dragged it to safety.

 

 

Sun Bathes Veda Narayana.jpg

Sun Bathes Veda Narayana.

This temple was built during the time of SriKrishna Devraya.

 

This temple is maintained by Tirumala Tirupathi Devathanam.

 

Sunray’s fall on the Lord during the Sunset (6pm to 6.15pm). Sunray’s fall at the feet on the first day, on the chest on the second day and on forehead on the third day. This happens once in a year, 12th, 13th, 14th days of Phalguna masam(March). Float festival is also conducted.

 

 

POOJAS
      6 TO 6.30A.M                        SUPRABATHAM
6.30 TO 7A.M                        TOMALA SEVA
7.30 TO 8A.M                        SAHASRANAMARCHANA
8 TO 10A.M                           SARVA DARSHANAM
10 T010.30A.M                       SECOND BELL
12 NOON                                TEERMANAMU
4 TO 6P.M                               SARVA DARSHANAM
6 TO 6.30P.M                          TOMALASEVA
6.30 TO 7P.M                          RATRI KAINKARYAM
7 TO 7.45P.M                          SARVA DARSHANAM
7.45 TO 8P.M                          EKANTA SEVA

ABISHEKAM :  ABISHEKAM IS DONE FOR GODDESS ON FRIDAY 8 A.M
ABISHEKAM IS DONE FOR VEDA NARAYANA SWAMY ON SATURDAY 8 A.M     

 

Temple brahmostavam  on Shukla Dwadasi, Trayodasi and Chaturdasi of Phalguni masam (Telugu calendar).

 

Airport. Tirupati.

Bus station.Tirupati. 62 km from Tirupati RTC Bus stand.

Human Migration World History India

In History on August 12, 2014 at 19:16

I have often wondered about terms like Domicile and migration.

Human migration.png

Human migration.png

 

If we understand History and follow it, we shall know that no one can claim to be a domicile of any place!

 

The movement of Humans from prehistoric times is so complex and changing, it is impossible to say who was in one place first.

 

Whenever we read History of Human migration we find that when people move from one place,it is stated that they mixed with the people in that place.

 

How did these people come to be there?

 

And from where?

 

If migration takes place it has to be from one place to another.

 

The place from where they moved from, how did they arrive there at the first place?

 

European History says that Asia served as a sort of reservoir for Humans to migrate from.

 

How did they come to be there at all?

 

European history says, in migration, people came in waves from Asian, through the Urals and Russia, through the landmass of mideast .

 

The group that came through Russia settled down and mingled with people over there.

 

The other group .

 

The first wave settled in Spain Pyrenees, North of Africa, in England,Scotland and Wales,and in Gaul.

 

The second wave settled in Bulgaria, Hungary

 

The third wave Huns, settled finally in Germany, after raiding all the ethnic groups settled before them.

 

Then there were the Vikings who raided the Gauls, Anglo-Saxon.

 

However all the information here are theories.

 

There is yet another theory that states that people migrated from Africa.

 

Curious is that while the west acknowledges that The Vedas are the first Literature of Mankind and were in existence at least from 5000 BC

no body bothers to check the refernces found in the Vedas , Puranas, and Ithihasas on people, culture and places.

 

There is another Language and civilisation found in India which is as old as the Vedas .

 

Tamil.

 

Tamil literature is at least 500o years old.

 

Puranas quote Tamils, Tamil Kings.

 

Ramayana and Mahabharata do the same.

 

References are found in Sanskrit Literature, Tamil Literature  ,Vedas Puranas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata about people and places which are now Europe, US,Africa, Russia,

 

Middle east, Iran, Southeast Asia, Polynesia .

 

These references are not used, I presume, it hurts the pride of these scholars to accept India as a the cradle of Human Civilisation.

 

So overwhelming are the artifacts and archeological finds, they have to grudgingly accept Indus Valley civilisation!

 

They are yet to accept the Sarasvati Valley Civilisation.

 

The Tamil civilisation is totally ignored as also the influence of this culture in Huan Migration in world History.

 

I have also noticed a curious fact,

 

Hindu,Indian Religious, Cultural artifacts and archeological finds are found all over the world.

 

I have quite a few posts on this under Hinduism.

 

But not a single artifact or archeological find has been found in India relating to History or culture or Religion of the other civilisations in the world which predate Vedic period or Tamil culture.

 

I shall be examining the concept of Human migration from Dravida to rest of the world, including the Sarasvati Valley civilization.

 

This will be with help of Vedas, Puranas,Ramayana, Mahabharata, Tamil and Sanskrit Literature.

 

 

 

 

Rama’s Ancestor Manu Dravida, Bhagavatha Purana

In Hinduism on August 9, 2014 at 09:53

I have been intrigued when I read about ancient History and Human migration.

Lord Shiva ,Sita and Rama.jpg

Lord Shiva ,Sita and Rama.

 

It is said that a Group moved from the South Eastern portion, near Urals of the USSR to towards the east, south-east ans settled down in the land mass which was later christened as  India.

 

This is the beginning of the Aryan Invasion theory.

 

Another group moved in waves intermittently into Europe.

 

Some people of the first wave from this group settled down in Spain, North Africa.

 

Then came the second wave, people from this group settled down area which are now called Bulgaria, Hungary and Germany.

 

Curious is the fact that the same theory states that these people had driven out or mingled with the people in these areas , like the Gauls, Saxons.

 

My confusion is that if the earlier people had come into Europe only from the east, it is agreed that these waves of migration originated from Asia,how is it one finds people settled in these places already?

 

Similarly, it is also stated that the group which moved into India mingled with people in India, from the Sarasvati/Sindhu delta!

 

Then we have the Dravidas to think about.

 

They seem to have been here for quite some time before the advent of these migrations.

 

How and why?

 

I have been checking up books and the web to find a clue.

 

I searched the Vedas, Puranas and Tamil literature as these are the oldest records of Humanity.

 

Based on the information found in these texts I have been able to find places, Temples in the areas mentioned in them.

 

The Tamils are mentioned in the Vedic and Puranic texts and Tamil mentions extensively the Sanskrit Legends and Language.

 

There is this doubt of mine, if Rama is from the North, how is it he is Dark, Blue Black and Krishna Black?

 

North Indians are of fair complexion.

 

The worship of Skanda is mentioned in the Vedas but not in a very detailed manner.

 

But Tamil Literature calls him the personification of Tamil and is a chief God after Shiva.

 

Shiva is extolled in tamil more than in the Vedas.

 

Vedas speak more of Rudra.

 

Is there any connection?

 

Another thought.

 

Why should the Migration emanate from the Urals?hy not from the areas where people have been living before these migrations that too in an advanced civilization?

 

The there is this unaccountable, based on the present theory,presence of Hindu, Vedic practices, temples and Tamil culture in the Americas, Italy, Polynesia,Middle east.

 

Then we have the history of Lemuria or Kumari Kandam.

 

What if the movement started form the southern areas ,that is from the Tamils?

 

Tamil History records the tsunami, which destroyed lands and Tamil Sangam.

 

One group might have moved towards the North  , to Saraswati River.

 

This can account for the presence of Tamil Brahmi scripts and the artifacts relating to the burial o the Dead, mention of Tamil Kings , Lands in the Ramayana Mahabharata and Puranas.

 

Another group moved into Europe by the sea ‘ spreading as far as Sumeria, and even the Maya Kingdom.

 

I shall be posting on these.

 

In the mean while I found a sloka in the Bhaghavatham which states that Satyavata Manu, the ancestor of Lord Rama was a Dravidian.

 

“Yo ‘sau satyavrato nāma, rājarṣir draviḍeśvaraḥ

Jñānaḿ yo ‘tīta-kalpānte, lebhe puruṣa-sevayā

Sa vai vivasvataḥ putro, manur āsīd iti śrutam

Tvattas tasya sutāḥ proktā, ikṣvāku-pramukhā”

-Srimad Bhagavatham 9.1.2-3

yaḥ asau — he who was known;

satyavrataḥ — Satyavrata;

nāma — by the name;

rāja-ṛṣiḥ — the saintly king;

draviḍa-īśvaraḥ — the ruler (lord, master) of the Draviḍa countries;

jñānam — knowledge

; yaḥ — one who;

atīta-kalpa-ante — at the end of the last kalpa,

lebhe — received;

puruṣa-sevayā — by rendering service to the Purusha;

saḥ — he;

vai — indeed;

vivasvataḥ — of Vivasvān;

putraḥ — son;

manuḥ āsīt — was  the Vaivasvata Manu;

iti — thus;

śrutam — I have already heard;

tvattaḥ — from you;

tasya — his;

sutāḥ — sons;

proktāḥ — have been explained;

ikṣvāku-pramukhāḥ — headed by Ikṣvāku;

nṛpāḥ — many kings.

That saintly king and ruler (king) of the Dravida Countries who was known by the name of Satyavrata, at the end of the last kalpa (before the Pralaya) .. received knowledge by service to The Purusha, he indeed was Vaivaswata Manu, the son of Vivaswan, his sons have been proclaimed as the kings, famous as the Ikshvakus.

 

sloka Citation.

 

http://ancientindians.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/sri-ramas-ancestor-vaivasvata-manu-was-a-dravidian-king-srimad-bhagavatam/

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