Posts Tagged ‘Veda’
‘Man has landed on the Moon ,’Siva has the Moon on His head, so man has landed on Siva’s head -Karunanidhi.
These are the gems of the Indian Rationalists(?)
They are not to be left far behind.
I came across this article ‘Vedas & Incest in Bible and Quran’
I have been meaning to write on the allegories in the Vedas. somehow never got around to it.
Now is as good a time as any.
To the Rationalists and Islamists from abroad.
The ‘Incest portions from the Rig Veda,
Swami Dayanand Saraswati, in his book Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika on the authority of Rigved 1/164/33, uses immoral language to convey the working of the natural phenomenon. You can yourself assess the cheap nature of this allegory, which promotes and glorifies incest.
The Sun or the Sun’s sphere is called Savitur (the begetter) and Prajapati (the Lord of creatures). Light and Dawn are like his two daughters. Metaphorically speaking the one which is produced from the other is like the offspring of the latter which is like the parent of the former. The Sun follows fast with his rays his daughter Dawn of a reddish complexion. Having seized her he begets upon her the Day which is like his sun. The Dawn is like the mother and the Sun like the father of this son, because the Sun with his rays, which are like hs semen, begets the Day, his son, upon her, the Dawn.The Dawn is the reddish light on the horizon in the 2 and half hours of night before morning. By the intercourse of the father and the daughter is born a son, the full light of the day. As a son is born by the intercourse of his father and mother, similarly, here (the Day is born by the intercourse of the Sun with the Dawn).
Similarly, the rain-cloud and the earth stand to each other in the relation of the father and the daughter. The earth is produced from the waters, hence, the earth is the daughter of the rain-cloud. The rain-cloud by pouring rain water upon her makes her conceive. That conception results in the production of vegetables, etc. as their offspring. This also is an allegory. This borne out by Vedic texts.
Light of day is my father- protector and begetter – the producer of all activities. There is a mutual relation between the two. This extended or venerable earth is my mother. The rain-cloud and the earth are like two armies arrayed against each other or like the awning and the floor. The father rain-cloud pours the waters upon his daughter – the earth and makes her conceive. This is merely an allegory.
Rigveda 1. 164. 33.
The same allegory is described in the following Mantra.
The sun which is called Vahni makes his daughter, the said dawn, conceive by making his semen, the rays, flow into her and begets a son – the Day. Rig III. 31. 1.
[Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika, English translation; An Introduction to the Vedas by Ghasi Ram, pp 389-391]
[Source: http://www.vjsingh.info/int5.html ]
My dear mulla naseeruddin , where are ur brains? The text in totality at http://www.vjsingh.info/int5.html is as follows.
- Similarly, in the so-called “Ancient Histories,” the Puranas, the Brahma Vaivarta and others which are really of a recent date, are written very false stories of a sample as one takes out a grain of rice from the boiling pot in order to see if it has been cooked or not. In it there occurs a story that Brahma, the Lord of creatures, in flesh and blood, having four faces, seized his own daughter Sarasvati for committing rape upon here. This story is false because in reality it is an allegory.The Sun or the Sun’s sphere is called Savitur (the begetter) and Prajapati (the Lord of creatures). Light and Dawn are like his two daughters. Metaphorically speaking the one which is produced from the other is like the offspring of the latter which is like the parent of the former. The Sun follows fast with his rays his daughter Dawn of a reddish complexion. Having seized her he begets upon her the Day which is like his sun. The Dawn is like the mother and the Sun like the father of this son,
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because the Sun with his rays, which are like hs semen, begets the Day, his son, upon her, the Dawn. The Dawn is the reddish light on the horizon in the 2 and half hours of night before morning. By the intercourse of the father and the daughter is born a son, the full light of the day. As a son is born by the intercourse of his father and mother, similarly, here (the Day is born by the intercourse of the Sun with the Dawn).Similarly, the rain-cloud and the earth stand to each other in the relation of the father and the daughter. The earth is produced from the waters, hence, the earth is the daughter of the rain-cloud. The rain-cloud by pouring rain water upon her makes her conceive. That conception results in the production of vegetables, etc. as their offspring. This also is an allegory.
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This borne out by Vedic texts. Light of day is my father- protector and begetter – the producer of all activities. There is a mutual relation between the two. This extended or venerable earth is my mother. The rain-cloud and the earth are like two armies arrayed against each other or like the awning and the floor. The father rain-cloud pours the waters upon his daughter – the earth and makes her conceive. This is merely an allegory. Rigveda i. 164. 33.The same allegory is described in the following Mantra.The sun which is called Vahni makes his daughter, the said dawn, conceive by making his semen, the rays, flow into her and begets a son – the Day. Rig III. 31. 1.
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In spite of the fact that this most excellent allegory was explained in the Nirukta and the Brahmanas, the Brahma Vaivarta and other books have described it and other stories other wise on account of misapprehension. No one should every believe them.”
Explanations of the forces of Nature and its activities are allegorical in The Vedas.
Even the names of the Gods mentioned are allegorical.
The Sun,Surya means ‘Supreme light’.
Mitra, one of the many names of Surya means ‘Friend’ for he sustains every one without discrimination.
Savitur,the the begetter.the Principle behind the Sun-of its heat and light,
Prajapathi, The Lord of all creatures, means the first-born of Mankind,Praja, Pathi.
Ushas indicate dawn,
To explain the nature of the dawn and dusk the metaphor is used.
If one were to understand the metaphor carefully, one will find the description of the process and mechanism of how dawn or Dusk is formed as accurate.
When we talk of Mother nature, it does not mean that the Nature is one’s Mother.
However there are some questionable relationships in the Puranas, some of them facts.
They are explained and those who indulge in excesses are dealt with , the consequences narrated.
One should be qualified mentally, at least he/she should be one who does not constantly think below the navel, to understand Hinduism and the Vedas.
Hinduism is not founded by a Man who married a Widow, then Married an eight yer old girl and preached Morality.
To the yellow shawl wearing ruffian Karunanidhi,
‘Moon or Chandra is a stage of Mental development,reached by controlling the different types of Breaths, Ida and Pinglaa.
This is explained allegorically.
Lord Brahma did not beget Sarasvati by intercourse , nor the Devatas indulge in Physical intercourse among themselves, they can not for tit is the definition of Devas. their eyelids do not batter,garlands adorned by them do not wither away and they can not engage in physical intercourse.
Well , these jokers are from the group whose mentor Annadurai wrote a Book on The Ramayana, ‘Kambarasam’ in Tamil.
While every one is amazed at the character of Lord Rama(assuming for a while the Ramayana is fiction), this learned man wrote the Book to raise an earth-shaking question,
‘Sita spent 11 months in Ravana’s custody,how can one believe that she has not been raped by Ravana?
For specific queries on the subject, I shall try to answer .
Please forward questions.
- Rig Veda IsTamil Composed ByTamils (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
- Eighteen Principles ,One Verse Nirvana Shatakam Adi Sankara (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
Right or Wrong is relative.
It is purely Subjective.
When a vast majority follow a certain practice and decides it to be Right it becomes right.
These value judgement are, at the Social level,are tools of Social Control.
They do not mean anything more.
However, as one has to exist in a Society , one has to follow these norms in this world.
Knowledge or Awareness is of two kinds.
One, knowledge of this world of objects and the other,
The knowledge about oneself,Reality,which is personal and can be felt
only by the individual.
Therefore the Vedas classify Knowledge into two Kinds..
One, The Absolute Knowledge, Para Vidya and
Transient Knowledge, Apara Vidya.
Transient Knowledge is transitory, subject to change, depends on our perceptions and real only in the relative sense.
To illustrate, let us take the case of one sitting in a Room and there is a Table in the other Room which he can not see.
Here, for the one he sits in a room, the table does not exist as it is not visible or seen by him.
If one were to prove its existence from one’s memory that it was there and it used to be there , this argument s fallacious as it does not depend on one’s direct experience.
But, the fact that the table exists can not denied because one has not seen it, is wrong as well
Therefore an Object exists or ‘Is’, from the standpoint of its being there, seen by some body or as an idea in one’s mind.(‘Is’-'Asti’)
It does not exist-’Nasti’, from the stand point of the one who is sitting in the other room.
There is yet another class of people who see the Table for the first time.
As they have not seen it before they can not describe it, that is the table can not be described as to what it is.
This is called ‘Avaktavyam’(Indescribable).
Now look at the three stages of the Object.
It is ’Asti’ ‘Does Exist’, from the stand point of people who see it.
It is ‘Nasti’,'Does not Exist’, from the stand point of one who does not see it.
It is ‘Avaktavyam’, ‘indescribable’, from the standpoint of those who se t for the first time.
So an Object is ‘Is,Is Not,and Indescribable ‘ at the same time, Asti,Nasti , Avaktavyam.
For the technologically inclined,
In Cricket match Live telecasts , we have many cameras covering the event.
The event looks different from each camera.
Which is the correct one representing the Object,Event?
If you have two televisions at Home in two different rooms,you will notice one frame or picture and audio comes later (or earlier than the other.
Which represents the correct Time frame?
Science will explain why it is so by talking about the velocity of light and Sound.( does sound have velocity or speed?)
But it does not explain the phenomena but describes the process for such an event.
Therefore an Object is presented to us in many ways.
This depends on our Senses, Anthakaranas,Gunas,Mind and Chitha.
This, apart from the attributes of the object
Hence in the transient World, an Object ,
Is Not, Nasti,
to different people.
Again the Object may be all of these at the same time,
That is, Is , Is Not, and Indescribable(Asti, Nasti and Avaktavyam)
An object can be predicated in Seven different ways.
2.Is Not,( Nasti)
4.Is and Is Not(Asti Nasti) , depends on the location of the Object and the Observer.
5.Is and Indescribable(Asti Avaktavyam)
6.Is Not and Indescribable (Nasti Avaktavyam)
7.Is,Is Not and Indescribable(Asti,Nasti,Avaktavyam)
This predication of Object forms the Logic of Nyaya System of Indian Philosophy, The Sapthabangi Naya
This is the most advanced system of Logic, better than Logical positivism of Bertrand Russell.
Does an Object, such being the case exist at all?
Nihilists say No.
Empiricists say Yes.
John Locke says, I Know Not’
Adi Sankaracharya says ‘It exits and at the same time does not exist”
Assume you step on some creepers in the night in a forest in and you jump out in fear, assuming it to be a snake.
When you use a Torch, you find that it to be a creeper,
Your Fear is gone.
Your fear was real,
The Creeper was real,
And that it is not a creeper is also Real
Therefore Shankaracharya says all the three statements are true,
The difference is that while experiencing Fear your Awareness,Knowledge was incorrect, because of Ignorance, not knowing all the facts.
Once you come to know all the facts you get the Knowledge,
Removal of Ignorance or Avidya, id Knowledge, Sankara avers.
This being the case of individual Objects, how can one assume the Reality of Objects and events in this world and pass moral judgement?
Any such assertion is contrary to knowledge,
Therefore Right or Wrong is only Relative and has no place in advance knowledge.
Look at this point.
In Egypt, during Cleopatra’s times’ it was the custom to marry one’s sister, brother.
Cleopatra married Ptolemy, her brother first.
Let us see how God would judge two different cases on this issue,
One who does marry one’s brother from another Moral system where marrying sister/brother is incest and morally wrong, and another Cleopatra, after their Deaths.
Would he punish Cleopatra for having married her brother(which was considered Moral by Egyptians at that time) , for incest?
Or would God punish the one , who is not an Egyptian, and who has married her brother for incest?
He can Not. for He Is God, there can be no double standards.
So at the Absolute level thee is nothing as sin or sacred.
Note;This is an advanced concept.
Let not people quote Shankaracharya and indulge in incest.
I would like to quote Rajaji,a Great Statesman and Philosopher of India.
(Rajaji was a lawyer.
Once a murderer approached Rajaji and asked him to represent him in Court.
As a matter of principle C.Rajagopalachari (Rajaji )would never appear for one whom he thought was guilty and so he refused.
The murderer told Rajaji,
‘You believe in Hinduism, Every thing is done by God, So my murder is not committed by me but by God, you should represent me’
‘You are correct.
The same God asked me not to represent you.
The same god will also ask the Judge to hang you”)
न पुण्यं न पापं न सौख्यं न दुःखं
न मन्त्रो न तीर्थो न वेदो न यज्ञ ।
अहं भोजनं नैव भोज्यं न भोक्ता
चिदानन्दरूपः शिवोऽहम् शिवोऽहम् ॥४॥
Na Punnyam Na Paapam Na Saukhyam Na Duhkham
Na Mantro Na Tiirtho Na Vedo Na Yajnya |
Aham Bhojanam Naiva Bhojyam Na Bhoktaa
Cid-Aananda-Ruupah Shivo[a-A]ham Shivo[a-A]ham ||4||
4.1: Neither am I bound by Merits nor Sins, neither by Worldly Joys nor by Sorrows,
4.2: Neither am I bound by Sacred Hymns nor by Sacred Places, neither by Sacred Scriptures nor by Sacrifies,
4.3: I am Neither Enjoyment (Experience), nor an object to be Enjoyed (Experienced), nor the Enjoyer (Experiencer),
4.4: I am the Ever Pure Blissful Consciousness; I am Shiva, I am Shiva,
The Ever Pure Blissful Consciousness.
- Eighteen Principles ,One Verse Nirvana Shatakam Adi Sankara (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
Some of the practices followed by the Hindus are erroneous.
1.Do not visit Temples for one year after Death in the family.
Almost all Hindus refrain from visiting the temples (at least th South Indian. especially from Tamil Nadu do) for one year from the date on which the death has occurred or from the date of performance of the Gruhayagna (Gregya)-கிரேக்கியம் ,the Thirteenth Day ceremony.
The word ‘Gruhayagnam’ means the performance of Yagnas at Home.
Householders are not sanctioned to perform the Daily Karmas,Duties, for thirteen days from the date of death in the family.
This sanction excludes Sandhyavandan/Sandhyavandana.
On the thirteenth day. a Purification ceremony is performed at Home( Punyahavachanam)and people are asked to visit temples.
If one is purified to perform Yagnas(Gruhayagnas), it is illogical to proscribe a visit tot the Temples.
( one also finds, as I see a comedy in this, many people visit temples refraining during this period except those on Hill Tops;if one can visit a temple, why on earth should one not visit a Temple on the Hill tops?)
The other term, Subhasweekara means ,literally,’inviting the Auspicious’.
Once when you invite auspiciousness to visit you, you can visit temples as well.
People must remember that the Vedas do not mention visiting temples at all, though
Time that we understand the Karmas and act accordingly with out following some one blindly.
Various traditions within Hinduism follow different standards of ritual purity and purification; in Smartism, for example, the attitude to ritual purity is similar to that of Karaite Judaism. Within each tradition the more orthodox groups follow stricter rules, but the strictest rules are generally prescribed for brahmins, especially those engaged in the temple worship.
An important part of ritual purification in Hinduism is the bathing of the entire body, particularly in rivers considered holy such as the Ganges; it is considered auspicious to perform this form of purification before any festival, and it is also practised after the death of someone, in order to maintain purity. Although water pollution means that in modern times there is a need for care during bathing in such rivers, the physical impurities within the river do not diminish the attributed power they have to bring ritual purity. Lesser aspects of Hindu purification ritual include achamana - the touching and sipping of pure water while reciting specific mantras - and the application of a tilaka on the forehead.
Punyahavachanam is a ritual performed before any ceremony such as Marriage,Homa etc. Mantras are chanted and then water is sprinkled over all the people participating and the items used.
In the ritual known as abhisheka (Sanskrit, “sprinkling; ablution”), the deity’s murti or image is ritually bathed with water, curd, milk, honey, ghee, cane sugar, rosewater, etc. Abhisheka is also a special form of puja prescribed by Agamic injunction. The act is also performed in the inauguration of religious and political monarchs and for other special blessings.
There are various kinds of purificatory rituals associated with death ceremonies. After visiting a house where a death has recently occurred, Hindus are expected to take bath.
Women take a head bath after completing their 4 day menstrual period.”
“Punyahavachanam is a karma to make ourselves pure as well as the surroundings before making anyvaidika karma. For making this karma we need the following:1) brass plate of 15inches diameter 2)brass chembu3)two brass tumblers 3) sufficient rice to fill the brass plate 4)a little tour dall5)two bunches of mango leaves 6)panch patra 7) uddarini 8) side plate brass/copper 9) sambrani stand 10) karpuram plate 11)kumuma, akshata, gandham bowls 12) betelleaves with round betal nuts 13) sufficient flowers 13) a small piece of jaggery 14) 6 bananas 15) twococonutsTHINGS TO DO FIRST: 1) Apply gandham and kumkum to brass chembu, two brass tumblers on allfour sides. 2) apply haldi/pasupu to one coconut to place on the chembu and kumkum on all four sides3) clean the mango leaves in water for placement of one bunch in chembu and other two bunches to place in the tumblers. 4) fill the plate with raw rice to 2/3 height of brass plate and add some tour dhalinto it. and keep the same on earth cleaned decorated with maakolam 5) keep chembu filled with water 2/3rd level, keep mango leaves inside and place the coconut applied with haldi and kumkum on it and place the same on eastern side centre of plate filled with rice and place the two brass tumblers belowthe chembu so as to make the three a equilateral triangle. 5) have two sets of tambulams with one banana and keep the same next to tumblers (right side tumbler right side and left side tumbler leftside). 6)pour clean water to half level in two tumblers and keep the mango leaves in it. 7) make haldivinayaka in cone shape and keep the same in two betel nut leaves. 8) place the haldi vinayaka in westside of chembu placed in plate i.e. in between the two tumblers slightly below (not exactly in betweentumblers). apply gandam and kumkum to haldi vinayaka and keep some flowers on it. 9) make 2handful of akshatas i.e. select rice in full form not having the half ones apply haldi and two to threedrops of ghee and apply to rice so as to become yellow instead of white rice. 10) take a brass plate keepcoconut, banana, flowers for puja, 11) keep separately sambrani vatti and karpuram with match box.12) have one kuttu vilakku filled with til oil and keep single vatti and lit the deepam and apply gandamkumkum and flowers to it and place the kuttu vilakku in a plate duly filled with kolam. keep the kuttuvilakku to the right side of the round plate kept with kalasam and two tumblers. Have one more smallvilakku lit duly decorated and keep near the big vilakku. Caution: When lighting agarbatti or karpuram do not lit from the kuttu vilakku but to light from the match box only. 13) make seat for uand your wife either in a wooden plank or have kambal spread on earth and have a towel spread on it.your feet or any part of your legs should not touch the earth because the earth have such power whichwill attract the power generated through mantra into it. 14) Always wear the dhoti panchakachhamstyle for all vaidika kriyas and see your wife also wear the sari in kachham.”
- Temple Where Corpses Burn Before God Daily Sri Vanchiyam (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
I came across an interesting article that seeks to prove that the Ancient Literature of Mankind,The Rig Veda was composed by Tamils.
And the Rig Veda is Archaic Tamil.
The author goes on quoting what seems to me as authentic sources.
True to my belief, Enjoy,Inform and be Informed, I am posting excerpts.
Let the scholars fight.
To me it is an experience to learn more.
‘But truth is truth and it has to be stated no matter how unpalatable these ideas may be to the present day scholars. However as a preliminary remark let me mention that the Dravidian-Aryan antagonism and along with it the Brahmin- Nonbrahmin disputes that was generalized to the Sanskrit – Tamil language rivalries and political movements of various kinds that these elements of group dynamics gave rise to is rather new and began only with the Western Indologists like Max Muller who claimed for example that Rig Veda is the FIRST VOICE of the Aryanman. This appropriation of Sanskrit as the language of a race of people called Aryans and hence also Hinduism is behind all these painful political struggles which are still on-going. However a study of Tamil literature shows that right from the beginning of Tolkaappiyam such a dichotomy and rivalry did not exist. While there were Brahmins ( paarppaans) right from the beginnings but they never thought of themselves as a different race of people but rather the same as the rest though given over to the recitations of the Vedas and so forth. The grouping of some of these Brahmins as those fond of Sanskrit, VadmoziyaaLar, those who were fond of Sanskrit, is something we note only from the period of MaNimekalai and perhaps because of Buddhism and Jainism. However we find the practice of Veelvi and Yajna or Yakam as integral parts of Tamil religious practices and without any antagonism towards them. They exist till today as integral part of temple activities as it was in Sumerian times. Furthermore almost all scholars were bilingual , mastered both Tamil and Sanskrit, and while some wrote in both languages some others only in Tamil or Sanskrit. They also saw BOTH as DIVINE languages and perhaps understood that Sanskrit was some kind of ancient heritage of Tamils as much as other so many things.
These studies may explain all these and show that Vedas were composed by some ancient Dravidian priests who were very well patronized by the Kings and more as specialized rituals for maintaining the king in good shape, sometimes a magical form of ritual for the selfish needs of Kings to maintain themselves in continued Kingship. The supremacist feelings of the Vedic Brahmins and the immense secrecy with which they guarded Vedic recitations may be related to these magical elements whereby they believed that by the practice of such Velvies they can invoke the Grace of BEING to maintain themselves the King and their country through that in abundance and prosperity. Of course along with such laudable motivations there was also the craze for POWER especially the politically ambitious individuals that they hoped to gain by the practice of these rituals as if by magic and which became something questioned very early and because of which arose Jainism and Buddhism as reformist movements also by Kings…
Rig Veda as Eri Ombal
First of all a few words about the phrase Rig Veda itself. The ‘rig’ exist in Su. as “- rib ” and Ta. eri: fire . We have an instance of it in the following lines of Instructions of Suruppak dated towards the close of the 4 th millennium (perhaps the oldest written text in the world) but written copies dated around 2600 B.C.
1. u-ri-a sud-ra ri-a ( In those days , in those far remote days)
Here ‘u-ri’ is actually the archaic form of “uu -eri” , the light burning and hence the uuzi, the burst of the radiance, the Big Bang that set the cosmic movements on the march. From the meaning of eri, the burst of light , it has also come to mean ‘day’ as in Malay hari: day.
Veetaa can be derived from ” sid” : to recite etc. , sid> vid> Ta. vittai, Sk vidhya, Veda etc.
Thus we can see that “Rig Veda” means : the hymns recited in front of Fire but metaphysically towards the Power that bursts forth as LIGHT and hence that which sets going the whole of the Cosmos, and hence close to “eri oombal ” of Sambantar or “erikku veetam” the kind of ritual that would drive away the disasters and miseries — kali vaaraamee. Here the contrast between ‘eri” (fire, light) and ‘kali= kari” (darkness , poverty miseries etc.) should be noted. Thus we can see that Rig Veda is a specialized set of hymns that were composed for the special purpose of Fire Worship and which appears to have been something special for the Kings in the Sumerian times itself and also for the general purpose of letting there be the metaphysical LIGHT as opposed to the metaphysical darkness.
I shall point out that there is an abundance of evidences for this kind of metaphysical sophistication in Rig Veda and which are CONTINUATION of the Sumerian and hence certainly NOT hymns composed by nomadic tribes who set up camfires in their nomadic wanderings to kill the cold but rather by a priesthood long in the making, very sophisticated metaphysical thinkers and who served the temples as much as the Royal palaces.
Fire Worship in the Temple and the Paarppaans (Brahmanas)
From the Sirbiyam of En Hudu Anna, we can get some interesting evidences not only for the Fire Worship but also its relation to the worship of Ati Paarppaan, or Piramma called also Veetan , Ayan and so forth in Tamil literature and is said to emerge from the belly of Tirumaal, the Se-ir maal or Enlil of the Sumerians.
The following lines are to the point.
84. as-im-babbar- (re) na-an (an-na) -kus-u-de-(en) ( I cannot appease Ashimbabbar)
*Ta. aatim paarppaaree naa aavanna koocitteeen
85. su-luh-an-ku-ga-ke ni-nam-ma-ni in-kur ( (Lugalanne) has altered the lustrations of holy An and all his (other rites)
*Ta. cuulai aaN kookakee nanammanee i(va)n kuuRu
The ‘babbar” is also used to describe the metal silver , ku-babbar and hence it means brightness , brilliance etc. The complex ‘as-im-babbar” then can be taken as Ta. aatimpaarppaar, the primordial brilliant deity, where the term ‘paarppaan” is also used for describing Sivam,, the Luminous Being. Here we can see that aaN is considered the same as as-im-babbar and hence aatipaarppar also as an archetypal presence of BEING as aaN, the Supreme Being, the Ruler of All. The verbal complex “kus-u-de-en ” can be taken as “koocitteen ” where it means reciting loudly as Ta. koocam means loud noise. Thus we can see that Enhudu Anna was in the habit of reciting verses in praise of Ati Paarppaan, a ritual practice which she claims here she could not practice because the rules were changed by his opponent, Lugalanne who arrested and put her in jail , perhaps as an expression of denying equal rights to women in temple rituals.
The Myth perpetrated by The British and the propagation of it by the Christian Missionaries cloaked as scholars like Caldwell.
The goal for the West very clear, to destroy the Hindu culture to such an extent that they embrace the Western thoughts( and this would consolidate the British Empire in India) and hate Indian Thoughts and they have succeeded in this .
Even to-day this is being taught in Indian schools.
1.There is no mention of the Dravidians in the Vedas.
The Rik Veda lists the things imported from ‘Dravida’ meaning ‘South’, Pearls,Elephant Tusks.
2.The Vishnu Purana mentions that sage Viswamitra, the Rishi who gave the world the Gayathri mantra, exiled his 56 sons for disobeying him the south of Vindhyas,’Dravida’
3. Earliest Tamil Grammar, Tholkappiyam, Literature of the Sangam Period do not mention the word ‘Dravida’ at all.
4. Adi Sankaracharya mentions the word ‘Dravida Sisu, to identify Tirugnanasambandar, (who lived around the 7th century,) in his ‘Soundaryalahari’9Sloka 75)
“tava stanyaṃ manye dharaṇidharakanye hṛdayataḥ
payaḥ pārāvāraḥ parivahati sārasvatamiva |
dayāvatyā dattaṃ draviḍaśiśu-rāsvādya tava yat
kavīnāṃ prauḍhānā majani kamanīyaḥ kavayitā || 75 ||
5.The Kings of south India were ardent followers of Vedic Rites.
During the megalithic period of about 1000 BCE – 400 BCE, people of South India including Tamilagam, shared many beliefs and practices of thenative Dravidian religion with the megalithic builders elsewhere in the Indian subcontinent and beyond. The famous 3.5 metre-high granite figure excavated at Mottur, in present-day Vellore district, is considered the oldest known anthropomorphic representation of God in stone in the Tamil country...
Chera King Perunchotruudhiyan Neduncheralaathan, fed the Panadavas and Kauravas Armies during the Epic war of Mahabharata.
He performed the ‘Tharpana, in his Chera Kingdom, now Kerala for those who died in the War.
It is believed that the great hermit Agastya, who had performed such wonderful deeds by the merits of his penance, is still doing penance in the Agastya Kuta hills. Agastya who had travelled through- out the length and breadth of Bharata had several hermitages. In the Valmiki Ramayana, Aranyakanda, Sarga 11, a description is given, of a beautiful hermit- age of Agastya, and the peaceful atmosphere that prevailed in and around it. Agastya had presented to Sri Rama a bow got from Visnu, when the brothers visited his hermitage. Agastya had accompanied Sri Rama and his followers on his return journey to Ayodhya from Lanka, with Slta after killing Ravana. There is a legend in the Tamilnad that Agastya was a member of the first two 'Saiighas' (groups) of the "three Sanghas", mentioned in Tamil literature. As Agastya was dwarfish he is mentioned as Kurumuni, (short hermit) in Tamil works. He has written a Tamil grammar on music, literature and drama. But this work is not available now. The Tamil Grammar 'Tolkapyam', which is considered to be the oldest gram- mar, was written by Tolkapyar, one of the twelve disciples of Agastya< Even today in certain temples in the Tamilnad, Agastya-worship is carried on. Kambar, has mentioned about Agastya in his Ramayana. A great Tamil author Villiputturan says that the Tamil langu- age is the beautiful maiden presented by Agastya. It is believed that the following works have been com- posed by Agastya: 7. Archaeological Proof. There are more than 2,500 Archaeological sites, two-thirds of which are along the recently discovered dried up Sarasvati River bed. These sites show a cultural continuity with the Vedic literature from the early Harrapan civilization up to the present day India. 8. Sarasvati River. Several independent studies of the drying up of the Sarasvati River bed, all indicate the same time period of 1,900 B.C.E. 9.The late dating of the Vedic literatures by indologists is based on speculated dates of 1,500 B.C.E. for the Aryan Invasion and 1,200 B.C.E. for the Rig Veda, both now disproved by scientific evidence. Sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_ancient_Tamil_country http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas.htmlhttp://archive.org/stream/puranicencyclopa00maniuoft/puranicencyclopa00maniuoft_djvu.txt
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