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Ravana Signed Peace Treaty With Tamil Pandya King

In Hinduism, Tamils on November 25, 2014 at 08:47

Two ancient languages of India, Sanskrit and Tamil talk of The Ramayana and Mahabharata.

 

Sanskrit and Tamil quote each other that it well-nigh impossible to know which is earlier.

 

The Stargate of Ravana

Ravana’s Stargate

 

Ramayana was written by Valmiki in Sanskrit and was extensively quoted by ancient Tamil Literature, some as old as five thousand years.

 

There is also evidence to suggest that Valmiki knew Tamil and wrote Tamil Vanmikakovai.

 

Post on Was Valmiki a Tamil?, follows.

 

The Ramayana speaks of Ravana as a Rakshasa.

 

He is also described as Asura, meaning a man of immense Strength and Valor.

 

The Rakshasas, according to Puranas, lived down south, an allegory that they lived south of the Vindhyas.

 

There are references to Kumari Kandam, a Super Continent, of which Lanka formed a part.

 

The three kings of South India had close contacts with the kings of Lanka.

 

To such an antiquity that Ravana, who was engaged in stirring trouble in the Pandya Kingdom.

 

He was reported to have been checked by a Pandya King and Ravana sued for Peace.

 

This has been found in the Chinnamanur inscriptions, Tamil Nadu.

 

“The Sanskrit portion of the bigger Sinnamanur plates begins with a fragmentary verse in which the king (perhaps Pandya) boasts of having subdued the ocean — an attribute which the mythical Pandya kings generally assumed in consequence, perhaps, of their sea-bordering kingdom, their naval power, and their sea-borne trade, from the earliest historical times. From him were descended the kings known as Pandyas (v. 2) ‘who engraved their edicts on the Himalaya mountain’ and whose family-priest was the sage Agastya (v. 3). One of the Pandya kings is said to have occupied the throne of Indra (v. 4) and another to have shared it with that god, and still another, to have caused the Ten-Headed (i.e., Ravana of Lanka) to sue for peace (v. 5). One was a conqueror of the epic hero Arjuna       Verse 8 refers to a king who cut off his own head in order to protect that of his master and also to a certain Sundara-Pandya who had mastered all the sciences. Many kings of this family had performed Vedic sacrifices Rajasuya and Asvamedha (v. 9).”

 

“Pathupattu in Tamil (Ten long poems) has ten books and one of them is Maduraikanchi. This very long poem has a reference to Ravana (lines 40-42).”

* I am unable to vouch this as these lines do not see to refer Ravana.

“தொள் முது கடவுள் பின்னர் மேய,
வரைத் தாழ் அருவிப் பொருப்பின் பொருந!”

 

The above is from Madurai Kanchi,a Sangam Literary work, there seems to be no reference to Ravana here.

 

Comments welcome.

 

There are references by Nachinarkiniyar, a Tamil Commentator of the Sanga Era on Agsthya and Ravana.

 

And there is a reference by Kalidasa in Raghuvamsa.

 

(This raises the question about Kalidasa’a Date)

 

““Pandya wore pearl garlands and sandal paste. He was soaked in Avabrutha Snanam during Asvamedha yajna. Ravana was so scared that Pandya may attack and capture his Janasthana (in Dandakaranya), so he made a peace treaty with the Pandya king and then went to win Indraloka. Pandya was praised for receiving a weapon (Brahmsiras) from Lord Shiva.

 

Citation.

http://tamilandvedas.com/2014/06/24/ravana-pandya-peace-treaty-kalidasa-solves-a-tamil-puzzle/

 

http://www.whatisindia.com/inscriptions/south_indian_inscriptions/volume_3/copper_plates_at_tirukkalar.html

 

Earth Is Hollow Science Hinduism ?

In Hinduism on November 17, 2014 at 18:20

The Puranas of the Hindus, they are eighteen in number, might differ among themselves in the narration some events recorded.

 

But all the Puaranas are uniform in asserting that the Earth, called Jambudweepa is elliptical, egg shaped.

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Cosmos in Hinduism,

 

While explaining the evolution of the Universe the Puranas describe the Universe as being a shell within a shell.

 

They also describe the Seven Lokas, places of existence.

 

Our Earth is in the middle and we have tree above  and two below us.

 

Those that are below are the dwelling places of  Rakshasas and others.

 

The place called Patala and two more are reported to be extremely hot.

 

Please read my post on the Seven Lokas Hinduism .

 

Scroll down for Video.

 

Consider the following facts from Hinduism, some of which have been archaeologically verified, while some are being checked up.

 

1.The Universe is more than two billion years old.

2.There have been Giants and Pygmies.

3.There were super continents, like Lemuria, Atlantis.

4.There have been three recorded Tsunamis on the Earth.

5.Lord Rama’s ancestor Vaivaswatha Manu migrated from the South to North.

6.Recorded in the Ramayana are the adventures of Rakshasas in the Patala Loka.

“There are certain narrations in Mahabharata, that defies any rational explanations. Some examples are explanations about flying vehicles (Vimanas), Arjuna’s travels in a flying chariot across the Himalayas, his visit of the Deva territories (ancient alien base-camp in Tibet?), his battle with the Nivata Kavachas (men in space-suits?), Salwa’s attack of the city of Dwaraka in a flying city named Saubha, the triple space-cities of Asuras that revolved around Earth in three circular orbits that was destroyed by Siva using a single projectile weapon, the flying craft of Uparichara Vasu, the Puspaka-Vimana used by Kuvera, Ravana, Vibhishana and Rama,”

(ancient voice.wikidot)

7.Arjuna fought with Beings from the Patala Loka near the North Pole(Mahabharata)

8.The Rig Veda was composed in the North Pole.

9.Mount Meru is in te North Pole.

10.People traveled through the North Pole and interacted with people who lived down in the Patala Loka.

 

I can add more, but This would suffice.

 

You may read my posts on all these in this site under Hinduism.

 

Now let us see what evidence and science have to say on this fact that the Earth Is hollow.

 

n February 1947 Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd was in charge of a massive operation in the Arctic that was called Operation High jump and he was a man who was given the Medal of Honor that is the highest military decoration awarded by the United States government. In that period Admiral Richard E. Byrd together with Admiral Forrestal, who was a member of the Majestic Twelve those had a great Alien related knowledge, had the opportunity to fly unexpectedly to the land beyond the North pole and for the first and last time to visit the Hollow Earth. Admiral Forrestal was appointed in 1947 by President Harry S. Truman as  the first United States Secretary of Defense.

 

Photos that today in the year of 2011 are showing us through satellites some of the entrances into the Hollow Earth in Antarctica (South Pole ) and some unexplained  and mysterious hidden locations in the in North Pole, probably including among them the entrance that Admiral Byrd had entered the Hollow Earth in 1947 to the land beyond the North pole where he wrote his log-book that has been kept secret and away from publication and from the entire world by the USA or other governments.”

You mat read more at http://www.phfawcettsweb.org/hollowlearth.htm

The Hollow Earth Theory states that the earth is not a solid sphere with a central, hot magma which is yet to cool, but a hollow sphere that has a thick crust of landmass only around the circumference, with openings at the north and south poles. There is an ‘inner sun’ at the centre of the earth. The ring of land crust is supposed to be between 600 and 800 miles in thickness and the polar openings between 100 and 1400 miles in diameter. This leaves a space of over 7000 miles at the centre, which is hollow.

In direct contravention to the proportion of land and water mass being of the ratio 1:4 on the surface, the inner crust has this proportion in the ration 4:1, that is, four-fifths of land and only one-fifth of water. The reason for this reversal is that the floors of the surface oceans are actually landmass on the inner side!

A unique feature of this theory is that it logically confronts the currently accepted solid earth theory, with facts that orthodox science has overlooked. The adherents of this theory point to its origins in the religious myths throughout the world, the science fiction works of the 17th and 18th centuries, and the ‘anomalies’ found during the Arctic expeditions undertaken over the last two centuries.

Some of these adherents subscribe to the thinking that a whole civilization
of prosperous, peaceful and technologically more advanced humans live in a world of highly evolved vegetable and animal life sustained by the ‘inner sun’ of the hollow earth, on the vast continents of land mass that form the inner side of the surface world we are living.

There are also people who think that the stories of dark entities such as the werevolves, vampires, ghosts and other ghastly creatures that are said to occupy the caverns under the earth might have some element of truth in them.

Hollow Earth and the Puranas

There are Puranic evidences that are said to point to a civilization inside the hollow earth. Some of them include:

1. Sons of Sagara and the Patala Ganga (Brahmanda Purana)

Indra had stolen the sacrificial horse of King Sagara which he had kept for the ashvamedha yajna (sacrifice ritual using a horse). In their search for the horse, the sons of Sagara came to a Northern ocean, which they crossed, and entered the interior of the earth. There they found the horse in the hermitage of Kapila Rishi. They mistook that it was the Rishi who stole the horse and disturbed his tapas (meditation). The angered Rishi burnt all the 60,000 of them to ashes with a curse. The horse was later found by the grandson of King Sagara and the asvamedha yajna was completed. Finally, it was Bhagiratha, a descendant of the late King Sagara who performed intense tapas and brought the Ganga River to the world and then to the Palata Loka where she washed the sins of the sons and liberated them.

2. Kalki Avatar of Lord Vishnu

Srimad Bhagavtam states in Canto 12, chapter 2, Text 18:

sambhala-grama-mukhyasya
brahmanasya mahatmanah
bhavane visnuyasasah
kalkih pradurbhavisyati

According to this verse, Lord Vishnu will take the Kalki Avatar at the Sambhala village at the end of Kali Yuga to establish the oncoming Satya Yuga. Padma Purana (6.242.8-12) also mentions that the name of the village is Sambhala. This village is supposed not to exist today, but to be be born in due time, from the inner earth. The Tibetan lore speaks of a city named Shamballa which they consider to be in the interior of the earth on the Himalayas. Thus the Satya Yuga with its truly Vedic civilization will be established on the surface of the earth from its interior.

3. Parasurama’s Connection

Srimad Bhagavatam states in Canto 9, Chapter 16, Text 21 that Sri Parasurama, after wiping out the kshatriya clan off the face of the earth, performed a yajna (sacrifice) to bring his father back to life.

“After completing the sacrifice, Lord Parasurama gave the eastern
direction to the hota as a gift, the south to the brahma, the west to the
adhvaryu, the north to the udgata, and the four corners–northeast,
southeast, northwest and southwest–to the other priests. He gave the
middle to Kasyapa and the place known as Aryavarta to the upadrasta.
Whatever remained he distributed among the sadasyas, the associate
priests.”

Hollow Earth theory adherents say that the term ‘madhyatah’ in the above verse might mean the central or innter portion of the earth (that Sri Parasurama gave to Kasyapa Rishi), but this seems to be a far-fetched idea, as the verse is clear as to what parts of the earth he gave as gifts to the rishis.

However, the Hindi TV serial on Vishnu Puranam showed Sri Parasurama springing up from the interior of the earth to kill a kshatriya king.

4. Abduction of Duryodhana

Vana-parva of Mahabharata describes a battle waged by Karna and Duryodhana with the Gandharvas in a forest. Duryodhana was defeated and captured by the Gandharvas until he was rescued by Arjuna, his archenemy. Humilated, Duryodhana decided to give up his life doing tapas and fasting unto death. The Danavas found this out, created a powerful woman named Kritya, using whom they brought Duryodhana to their nether world (bila-svarga). They explained to Duryodhana that he was born out of a yajna (sacrifice) to please Lord Shiva, that his friend Karna was Narkasura in his earlier birth who was hostile to Vishnu and that their purpose was to defeate the Pandavas. The Danavas also assured that great warriors like Drona and Bhishma would be influenced by them to fight the war remaining on his side. The whole episodes seemed like a dream to Duryodhana.

Strangely, the Hollow Earth theorists attribute this episode to be typical of a UFO encounter! This is because they think that the origin of the UFOs is from the interior earth through the polar openings. They point out the similarities thus (Ref: http://www.holloworbs.com/abduction_of_duryodhana.htm):

1. A strange being takes Duryodhana bodily to another location, where he has a meeting with other strange beings.
2. Mystical or higher-dimensional transport is used.
3. The strange beings have human form, but look ‘gruesome’. Certainly they are ‘aliens’.
4. These beings have been guiding Duryodhana’s life from the very beginning.
5. They designed his body so that he would be impervious to weapons. Thus they apparently engaged in genetic manipulations, or something similar.
6. The aliens were planning to manipulate human beings through mind control.
7. After his interview, Duryodhana returned to the spot where he was taken, and after settling him down, his captor disappeared.
8. After the experience, it seemed to be a dream.
9. There are accounts in the UFO literature which parallel the story of Duryodhana.

5. Arctic Home of the Vedas
(Ref: http://www.holloworbs.com/Arctic_Home_Vedas.htm)

Bala Gangadhar Tilak (1856-1920), a key participant in India’s freedom struggle was a vedic scholar and researches. He published his findings in a book titled The Arctic Home of The Vedas in 1903. In this book he quotes the authority of Vedas and states that the original Arctic home of humanity was destroyed around 10,000 – 8,000 BCE by the last Ice Age, and that from 8,000 – 3000 BCE, was the ‘Age of Wandering’, before they Vedic people finally settled in India between 5,000 – 3000 BCE.

In chapter four, page 57 of the book, Tilak writes:

Quote:

 

We shall therefore, next quote the Mahabharat, which gives such a clear description of Mount Meru, the lord of the mountains, as to leave no doubt its being the North Pole, or possessing the Polar characteristics. In chapters 163 and 164 of Vanaparvan, Arjuna’s visit to the mount is described in detail and we are therein told, ‘at Meru the Sun and the Moon go round from left to right ( Pradadakshinam ) every day and so do all the stars.’ From the normal, inhabited longitudes on the surface of the earth, the Sun and Moon don’t rise and travel left and right, only above one’s head. According to how one turns, the rising could be left or right, frontal or from the back. Only from the Arctic could the rising of the Sun be from left to right, and it can ONLY be from left to right. So what region is being referred to in this description of Meru’s placement?”

The Ramayana one of the most famous texts of India, tells the story of the great avatar, Rama. It describes Rama as “an emissary from *Agartha” who arrived on a Vimana. In India there is an ancient belief, still held by some, in a subterranean race of serpent people who dwell in the cities Patala and Bhogavati. According to the legend, they wage war on the kingdom of Agharta. “The Nagas,” according to “The Deep Dwellers,” “are described as a very advanced race or species, with a highly-developed technology. They also harbor a disdain for human beings, whom they are said to abduct, torture, interbreed with and even to eat.”

The Entrances. While the entrance to Bhogavati is somewhere in the Himalayas, believers assert that Patala can be entered through the Well of Sheshna in Benares, India. Says William Michael Mott in “The Deep Dwellers”: “According to herpetologist and author Sherman A. Minton, as stated in his book Venomous Reptiles, this entrance is very real, with forty steps which descend into a circular depression, to terminate at a closed stone door which is covered in bas-relief cobras.

*I am yet to find ‘Agartha’ in Sanskrit version.

 

If the core of the Earth is too hot and it is increases  dramatically during Solar Flares to such an extent  that it could have destroyed the Earth.

It has not happened.

There is no satisfactory explanation for the Google Maps anomaly  in the North Pole( I shall be posting on this).

Science , at best, in my view,  is a working Hypothesis.That’s all consider the volte face science has done in all the fields.

Legends and Puranas may also be accorded the same consideration while formulating theories and await further evidence to surface.

They may be taken as pointers to facts and may be kept in mind for referral while formulating a Theory instead of condemning them.

 

Citation.

http://www.crystalinks.com/agartha.html

 

http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=626

Aliens Ramayana Mahabharata Hinduism

In Hinduism on November 15, 2014 at 09:29

Eric Von Daniken has written a couple of books on Aliens saying that the Aliens visited the Earth, Modified our genes and are monitoring our progress.

 

He theorizes that the Aliens have programmed our genes towards a particular goal and are watching whether the programme is working properly.

 

He also surmises Lord Rama was an Alien.

 

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Rama’s Welcome at Ayodhya after Winning the War.

 

There are other theories that the aliens have camouflaged themselves in the earth and taken various forms.

 

I shall be posting an article as how the genes have been modified and what the present day scientists think of this theory.

 

I did some research on this subject and have come up with some references to Aliens, Alien Technology in the Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Puranas.

 

In the light of the fact that the Ramayana and Mahabharata have been proved to be not mere stories but facts and are authenticated by Astronomy, archeology and History,one can not wish away the references in the these texts as pure imagination.

 

These references are also backed up by the Puranas or is the other way around?

 

Hinduism and Puranas  describe various forms of Beings.

 

While the descriptions of Rama, Krishna, to cite a few, are Human descriptions, the others like Ravana, the Asuras, Gandharvas, Rakshsas, Nagas, Kinnaras, Kimpurushas.

 

Of these some descriptions come near our present projection of Humanoids.

 

I had posted an article that Hanuman might be a Humanoid, Kumbhakarna , a Robot!

 

The Puranas and the Ithihasas, Ramayana and Mahabharata list,

 

Devas, Asuras, Gandharvas, Yakshas, Rakshasas, Pisachas, Kinnaras, Kimpurushas, Vanaras, Nagas, Suparnas, Vidyadharas, Valkhilyas, Siddhas and Charanas.

 

There is a view that some of these or all of them are tribes.

 

” Devas were further classified into Vasus, Rudras, Maruts, Sadhyas and Adityas. Asuras were similarly divided into Daityas, Danavas, Kalakeyas etc. Among the Daityas were a group called the Nivata Kavachas. However today, we can find the remnants of most of these tribes. Yakshas are found as Yakkas in Nepal, Tibet and Srilanka. Nagas are found as Nagas of Nagaland in eastern India, Nairs and Nagars in southern India. Gandharvas were ancient Gandharas. Pisachas lived in Kashmir attested by the Paisachi languages. Asura-philosophy of hatred towards Devas like Indra is found in the Iranian Veda named Avesta. Kinnaras are found as Kinnaurs in Himachal Pradesh. We also know that people who were considered as humans had interbred with these tribes. Asura Vrishaparva’s daughter became a wife of Yayati and gave birth to sons like Puru. Pandava Bhima had a son named Ghatotkacha upon a Rakshasa women named Hidimba. Ravana himself was a son of sage Visrava and Rakshasa lady Kaikasi. Ravana’s wife Mandodari was an Asura. Ravana had many wives who were Gandharvas. Visrava’s eldest son Vaisravana Kuvera is mentioned as a Yaksha. Thus we can conclude that these tribes were humans but were considered as alien or non-human only in relative terms. We also find that these tribes, today have no memory of them being super human in the past as described by the authors of Mahabharata.”

 

But the point is that there is no necessity for them to declare themselves as Super humans if they have camouflaged themselves to escape identity on the earth.

 

Moreover, the Ithihasas were written later to the events.

 

If these were written by some one who is also an Alien , he would not have disclosed facts about the Aliens.

 

If he were an ordinary human being, he would not have understood them being under camouflage  and therefore the writer described them as they were or as he understood them.

 

“There is also a view that if they were Aliens they would not have been easily accessible for they lived in places that are easily accessible.

If we look at the geographical locations of these tribes, we find that they, at-least for some period of time during their existence, lived in inaccessible regions like mountains and forests and/or lived isolated from the regions of the authors of Mahabharata. Pisachas lived in the mountains of Kashmir. Yakshas, Kinnaras and Kimpurushas lived in high Himalays or in Tibet, cut off from the authors of Mahabharata who lived in the Indo-Gangatic plain to the south of the Himalayas. Gandharvas too lived in the high mountains of Gandhara and only in later stages moved to Saraswati river basin. They also continued to live along with Yakshas in high mountains. Devas lived further north to Yaksha territories, and lied towards the east. The Asuras lived to the west and north of Gandhara. Vanaras lived in the dense forest named Dandaka in the central and south-central India. Rakshasas lived in the mountains of Trikuta (Ravana) and the Himalayas (Ghatotkacha) or in dense forests (Vaka, Kirmira, Hidimba). Thus the attribution that they were non-human or alien was also due to the fact that they were not easily accessible to the writers of Mahabharata and their lives seemed to them to be mysterious”

 

That they were accessible does not necessarily mean that they need not have been Aliens for their purpose had been (?) to be with the earthlings, yet to be away from their midst except when necessary.

 

Also why should a particular Group should stay in a particular region only?

 

Also note the following facts described.

 

” Some examples are explanations about flying vehicles (Vimanas), Arjuna’s travels in a flying chariot across the Himalayas, his visit of the Deva territories (ancient alien base-camp in Tibet?), his battle with the Nivata Kavachas (men in space-suits?), Salwa’s attack of the city of Dwaraka in a flying city named Saubha, the triple space-cities of Asuras that revolved around Earth in three circular orbits that was destroyed by Siva using a single projectile weapon, the flying craft of Uparichara Vasu, the Puspaka-Vimana used by Kuvera, Ravana, Vibhishana and Rama, , Rama’s bridge to Lanka across the ocean, the narration of the birth of Kauravas from the cells of an embryo outside the womb of a women, the narrations about celestial-weapons (Divya-Astras) that unleash high energy in the form of fire (explosions), water (rain), air (storm), the narration about the after effects of such weapons suggestive of the use of a nuclear weapon (nails falling down, regions turning into deserts, death of embryos even in womb), the idea that these weapons are invoked by mantras (voice enabled weapons?) and many more.”

 

We have descriptions of the Astras,which have produced effects similar or more or less identical with the effects of Nuclear  weapons.

 

Read my posts on this.

 

Alien Technology.

 

Extra-terrestrial aliens, in the form of local aliens like the Devas, the Asuras, the Gandharvas, the Yakshas etc interacted with ancient Indians and probably transferred some alien technologies like flying vehicles (Vimanas) and voice-enabled non-nuclear, thermo-nuclear and nuclear projectile weapons (Mantra-invoked celestial-weapons aka Divya-Astras) to them. Did they also assist ancient Indians in creating some wonderful cities? While Indraprastha was built by the Pandavas, a special assembly hall in that city is mentioned as built by Asura Danava Maya who was an architect. The city of Dwaraka is mentioned as built by Deva Viswakarma, who too was an architect. The city of Amaravati belonged to the Devas. The city of Alaka belonged to the Yakshas. The city of Bhogavati belonged to the Nagas. The city of Hiranyapura belonged to the Daitya Nivata Kavachas. All these contained several technological wonders aka illusions.

There is also this strange narration of the birth of Kauravas from the cells divided from an embryonic ball of flesh in artificial environments. This could be a later alien genetic experiment. Though I don’t think the Kauravas were born thus, the narration of this alien genetic experiment might have added to Mahabharata as a later addition and might have used to explain the birth of the Kauravas by later narrators of Mahabharata.”

 

My view is that there have been Aliens and Hinduism describe them.

 

I shall be posting on the Earth as Hollow and that The North and South Poles have openings and people(modern) have traveled through them.

Citation.

http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/article:alien-presence-during-mahabharata

 

https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/tripura-rotating-cities-destroyed-by-shiva-atlantis/

Lord Ram Sita Drunkards Debauch Amebedkar Insults Reply

In Hinduism on November 9, 2014 at 08:21

One of the Holy Cows of India, Dr.Ambedkar, others being Gandhi,Nehru,Annadurai of Tamil Nadu and MGR, is not to be commented upon by any one for they are perfect and what they utter is the Ultimate Truth, whatever non sense it might be.

Ambedkar, a man who ,according to his followers has written the Constitution of India(the other members of the Draft committee were fools),studied with the financial help of a Brahmin, who married a Brahmin woman,became a Buddhist stating that Buddhism has no divisions.

Those who say that Buddhism has many schools of thought and practices are idiots.

Ramayan Sites Sri Lanka

Ramayana Sites, Sri Lanka

He had written that Cow was slaughtered,eaten and was sanctioned by the Vedas.

Hinduism practices Caste system which was inhuman.

Please read my posts where I have replied to his half-baked, ill-informed, mischievous and misleading researches(?)

He had no spared the Ramayana , Mahabharata, Rama  and Krishna.

His observations on Rama are highly insulting to Hindus and they are totally in correct.

What he states about Rama has no references though he seems to quote .

If one checks the source of his references one can see through this game.

Normal tendency of the people, if some one says he is quoting an ancient text, is to take it for granted as True.

Ambedkar says Ramayana is a fraud and a mere story and yet at the same time goes about denying the Ramayana.

If the Ramayana is a Story, why take the trouble of denying it?

If the Ramayana is a mere story of Valmiki’s fertile imagination(why do you accept Valmiki as real, you could have denied him as well), then the facts,

The date of Ramayana has been authenticated through Archeology,History by internal and external evidence,

The route traveled by Rama in search of Sita  exist even today with the landmarks as described by Valmiki,

The Planets configuration described by Valmiki during Rama’s Birth, Marriage, Ramayana War all check out .

Apart from the places mentioned in India on the incidents of Ramayana, these places, like the Asokavadi, Pond where Sita took bath in Sri Lanka, the place where she was imprisoned by Ravana, Ravana’s Airstrip, his Pushpaka Vimana’s Axle, and the ruins of his palace are found in Sri Lanka.

The city founded by Lava, son of Rama ,Lahore is now in Pakistan.

Ramayana is found in the far-east,in their languages.

Yes all this is non sense and only Ambedkar is intelligent and others are fools.

Ambedkar’s facts (?) of Ramayana are wrong.

Now read what Ambedkar has on say on Rama.

Valmiki also gives a detailed description of how Rama spent his life in the Zenana. This Zenana was housed in a park called Ashoka Vana. There Rama, used to take his meal. The food according to Valmiki consisted of all kinds of delicious viands. They included flesh and fruits and liquor. Rama was not a teetotaller. He drank liquor copiously and Valmiki records that Rama saw to it that Sita joined with him in his drinking bouts*[f81] . From the description of the Zenana of Rama as given by Valmiki it was by no means a mean thing. There were Apsaras, Uraga and Kinnari accomplished in dancing and singing. There were other beautiful women brought from different parts. Rama sat in the midst of these women drinking and dancing.

They pleased Rama and Rama garlanded them. Valmiki calls Rama as a ‘Prince among women’s men ‘. This was not a day’s affair. It was a regular course of his life.

As has already been said Rama never attended to public business. He never observed the ancient rule of Indian kings of hearing the wrongs of his subjects and attempting to redress them.”

I do not from know where Ambedkar has this source.

I have replied here the most obnoxious statement of Ambedkar.

Other comments by him are mild when compared to this.

This post is to highlight the misinformation by self-styled Rationalists for self-aggrandizement with no real grasp of what they speak about.

This is caution to Hindus not to be misled by seemingly authentic quoted by people who have been built up as Great in India.

Please read my posts on.

Dating tools of Ramayana, Mahabharata,

Date of Ramayana.

Route taken by Rama.

Ravana’s Palace,Pushpaka Vimana Axle.

Sita’s Pond.Sita’s Cell.

Ahokavana,Asokavatika.

The date of Ramayana Battle.

Ambedkar on Untouchability, Vedas,Cow slaughter,Reservation muddle and more.

These posts are filed under Hinduism.

Citation.

http://fateh.sikhnet.com//sikhnet/discussion.nsf/ca32680024ff68b487256a08007e86d8/daf9fa36ea63a5ea87256afc0072869c!OpenDocument

Through this booklet Ambedkar questions the authenticity of so called Lord Rama and Krishna being worshiped as God by Hindus. He highlights numerous erroneous activities of Rama and Krishna that shakes people’s conscience to accept them as Lord. He quotes Valmiki Ramayana in which Ram’s cunning acts of killing Bali, Ravana and Shambook has been exposed. In all of these killings Ram has not shown honesty on any account. He exposes Ram’s and Krishna’s lust for women. Krishna has as many as 16108 wives and Ram too was never loyal to Sita and spends all his time in his harem among women. Ambedkar very categorically illustrates Krishna’s decisions during Mhabharata war and each one was guided by special mystical power and no real power of strength. And hence most of the men killed by Arjun was with the help Krishna or otherwise he could not have done it.

http://ff1.dalitresourcecentre.com/activities/the-riddles-of-rama-and-krishna/

Lord Rama Had Many Wives, Valmiki?

In Hinduism on November 8, 2014 at 17:42

Lord Rama as we know has one wife and he is cited as an example of loyalty in marriage.

I read apiece by Ambedkar on Hinduism ,especially on Lord Rama and Krishna, where he has ridiculed and slung mud at Rama and Krishna.

In my research to answer him on some points, I came across information that the Valmiki Ramayana we are following now is not by Valmiki but the Ramacharita Manas by Tulsidas.

Lord Rama's Coronation.jp

Rama Pattabishekam

This Tulsidas Ramayana, we have been misquoting as Valmiki Ramayana.

Can some one clarify with references?

To my knowledge Rama had only one wife and he had been loyal to Sita.

This issue , in my opinion, is a classic case of taking things out of context.

This sloka is about what Manthara speaks about Rama to Kaikeyi just before Lord Rama’s Coronation, Pattabhisheka.

In her effort to poison Kaikeyi’s mind against Rama, Manthara says that  if Rama was crowned as a King, Bharata’s position would wane:

Kaikeyi’s Daughter in-laws  , wives of Bharata will be unhappy against Rama’s wives.

It may be noted that Bharata was married to Mandavi, daughter of Kusatdwaja(Brother of Janaka, Father of Sita)

Now the fact is that Rama married Sita and Bharata Mandavi.

Now if Manthara is speaking of facts she would have said as wife of Bharata and not as wives of Bharata.

Therefore the efforts of Manthara is to incite Kaikeyi with hyperbole, saying that the wives of Bharata, implying that Bharata might marry again, being a King.

In the same vein Manthara speaks about Lord Rama might have more wives.

Here Valmiki excels.

Though he knew the full Ramayana in advance  from Narada before he started writing it, he never divulges the story in advance.

Valmiki writes in the Ayodhya Kanda,

hR^ishhTaaH khalu bhavishhyanti raamasya paramaaH striyaH |
aprahR^ishhTaa bhavishhyanti snushhaaste bharatakshaye || 2-8-12

12. raamasya= Rama’s; paramaastriyaH= great wives; bhavantikhalu= will become; hR^ishTaaH= delighted; te= your; snushhaaH= daughters-in-law; bhavishhyanti= will become; aprahR^isTaaH= unhappy; bharata kshhaye= of Bharata’s weak position.

“Rama’s wives will get delighted. Your daughters-in-law will be unhappy because of Bharata’s waning position.”

Comment: The words ‘Rama’s wives’ here do not indicate that Rama had multiple wives. Manathara refers to a possible future where Rama being a King would marry other women. It was a norm then for a king to have more than one wife).

(Ayodhya Kanda Chapter 8 Sloka 12)

After this Valmiki Ramayan there were several ramayan written by people afterwards.

All these subsequent ramayan contained story of Valmiki ramayan but with plus and minus. 

It means that subsequent ramayana differed from the original ramayan in several ways. 

But there was only one Ramayan which was written after Valmiki Ramayan 

that became highly popular and that was Tulsidas.

(He was contemporary to King Akbar) written RAMCHARITMANAS. 

So Ramcharitmanas was written 
around 2000 years after original ramayan was written. 

And to give you shock - hold your breath - 

the Ramayan that you know today is NOT the original 
Ramayan written by Valmiki ji rather it is Tulsidas written Ramcharitmanas.

. Shri Ram chandr Ji had several wives apart from seeta. 

Ayodha Kandam 8th Chapter, verse 12 - "Rama's wives will get delighted.





 Citation.


http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ayodhya/sarga8/ayodhya_8_frame.htm


https://archive.org/stream/DifferenceBetweenOriginalRamayanAndTheRamayanaYouKnow/DifferenceBetweenOriginalRamayanAndTheRamayanYouKnow_djvu.txt
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