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Search Sita In Peru Nazca Lines Sugreeva Ramayana

In Hinduism on July 31, 2014 at 10:14

Bharata Varsha included the Americas, as I had posted earlier.

 

The Americas were the  Patala Loka as described in Hindu texts.

 

There is yet another evidence pointing in this direction.

 

Sugreeva directs his army of Vanaras  to search for Sita in Lima, Peru, which is to be identified by the Nazca Lines , in the form of a Trident.

 

“””In Ramyan, when King Sugriv directs his men in all directions in search of Sita, he instructs people going to east direction to check out for a TRIDENT engraved on a mountain.

He describes the Trident as “A long Golden flagstick with three limbs stuck on top.

It always glitters in when seen from sky”. (This trident is on west coast of peru – Lima and is visible clearly from the sky)

In Valmiki Ramayan – Kishkindha Kaand – The sanskrit shlok is as below: (Kishkindha-39/47-48)

Kishkindha Kanda-39/47-48) Ramayana Sloka.jpg.

Kishkindha Kanda-39/47-48) Ramayana Sloka.

 

Nazca Lines.jpg

Nazca Lines.

 

Citation.

 

 

https://sites.google.com/site/vvmpune/other-works/about-trident-peru

Mahabharata Events Verified Timeline Some Issues

In Hinduism on July 30, 2014 at 23:21

I have posted the Ramayana Timeline verified by astronomical data.

 

 

To corroborate that further I shall be posting articles with Archelogical, Zoological evidence apart from references from Indian and Foreign literature.

 

After I posted on Ramayana Dateline, I have been asked to write on Mahabharata on similar lines.

 

This is a minefield.

 

One has to be remember that Ramayana had taken place in Treta Yuga while the Mahabharata took place in the Dwapara Yuga.

 

Treta Yuga lasted for 1,296,000 years and the duration of the Dvāpara-yuga is  864,000 years.

 

Mahabharata War took place towards the close of the Dwapara Yuga.

 

That is to say that the Ramayana and Mahabharata were separated by a minimum of 21,59000 Years.

 

Ramayana Events Dateline.

 

Rama’s Birth Date 4th December 7323 B.C

Rama-Seeta Marriage 7th April 7307 B.C

Rama Exiled 29th November 7306

B.C.Hanuman enters Lanka 1st September 7292 B.C

Hanuman meets Seeta 2nd September 7292 B.C.

Sethu (Bridge) built 26-30th Oct. 7292 B.C

The War begins 3rd November 7292 B.C

Kumbhakarna is killed 7th November 7292 B.C.

Ravana is killed by Rama 15th November 7292 B.C.Rama returns to Ayodhya

6th December 7292 B.C.(Vartak,P.V. 1999)”

 

Now The Mahabharta Events Timeline.

 

Hereunder is provided a short table dates of important Mahabharat events in years. (Dates and Tithis in years in Rama Samvat assuming Shri Rama Samvat 1st January. 1 equivalent to 1st Jan 7323 B.C. Rama’s birth date has been conclusively proved to be 4th Dec. 7323 B.C.( “Vastav Ramayan“).

EVENT                                      DATE       
                                      

Going to forest                       4th Sept. 5574 BC

Kitmeet Killed                        7th Sept. 5574 BC

Going underground                     19th May 5562  BC

Keechak killed                        1st April 5561 BC

Anukeechak-Massacre                   2nd April 5561 BC

End of secret life                    9th April 5561 BC

Cows stolen                           15th April 5561 BC

Arjuna exposed                        16th April 5561 BC

All pandavas exposed                  19th April 5561 BC

Marriage of Uttara                    4th May. 
& Abhimanyu.

Krishna set out for a treaty.         27th Sept.

Stay at Upaplavya                     27th Sept.

Stay at Vrukshthala                   28th Sept.

Dinner to Brahmins                    29th Sept.

Entry into Hastinapur                 30th Sept.

Krishna meets Kunti etc.              1st Oct.

Invited for meeting                   2nd Oct.

First meeting                         3rd Oct.

Second meeting and an attempt         4th Oct.   
to arrest Krishna.

Third meeting Vishvaroopa             7th Oct.

Stay at Kunti                         8th Oct.

Krishna meets Karna. War              9th Oct.
    fixed.

Krishna returns                       9th Oct.

Pandavas preparation                  11th Oct.  
Balaram's visit.

Mahabharat war started                16th Oct.

Abhimanyu killed                      28th Oct. 5561 BC.

End of War                            2nd November 5561 B.C.

Yudhishthira crowned                  16th Nov. 5551 BC.

Bhishma expired                       22nd Dec. 5561 BC

Pandava  campaign                     15th Jan. 5560 BC  
for wealth

Parikshita born                       28th Jan. 5560 BC

Pandavas return                       25th Feb. 5560 BC

Ashvamedh Deeksha.                    1st March 5560 BC

Return of Arjuna Horse                15th Jan. 5560 BC

Ashvamedh yajna                       22nd Feb. 5559 BC

Dhrutarashtra went to forest          18th Aug. 5545 BC

Pandavas visited Kunti                18th Aug. 5543 BC
Vidura expired

Death of Kunti, Dhrutarashtra,        Sept./Oct. 5541 BC 
and Gandhari

Yadava Massacre                       5525 B.C.Parikshit Dead                        5499 B.C.

-P.V.Vartak, Swayambhu (in Marathi), Ved Vidnyana Mandal, Pune

All the twelve planets confirm their said positions on 16th October 5561 years B.C. along with two Amavasyas, two eclipses, Kshaya Paksha and a Comet. Thus, in all 18 mathematical positions fix the same date. Therefore, we have to accept this date of the Mahabharat War, if we want to be scientific. Please note that all the twelve planets will come in the same positions again only after 2229 crores of years. That means it will never happen again in the life of our earth, because life of the earth is only 400 crores of years. So the date of the Mahabharat War is pin-pointed as 16th October 5561 B.C..

 

The date of Ramayana  is , the last recoded event for discusssion here, is ,

 

“Ravana is killed by Rama 15th November 7292 B.C.Rama returns to Ayodhya”

 

For Mahabharata,

 Pandavas Going to forest                       4th Sept. 5574 BC is the earliest event taken for discussion here.



The dudifference between the last event of Ramayana and the first event of Mahabharata event is,

7292-/5574 is only 1718 years!

So the difference between the last event of Ramayana and the first Mahabharata event is 7292-/5574. is 1718 Years!

Now to confound further,

'Yet cross indexing the various Purans and the Astrological data supported by actual Astronomical phenomena like Rama‘s Birth chart,Eclipses during Ramayana andMahabharata  forces one to the conclusion that Lord Rama’s Death preceded Lord Krishna’s  only by 200 years."

This anomaly can be answered only if one follows the concept of the theory of Cyclic Theory of Time.

Even if we accept this, there is still the point of reconciling 200 years.

But again, as Time calculation depends on the position of the observer, the dates mentioned and being proved n=by us might vary because our position differs from the recorded dates of Ramayana and Mahabharata.



Citaton.
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/mahabharat/mahab_vartak.html


http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/time-non-linear-3-hinduism-explains-how/

Kumbhakarna ROBOT Rama Killed Him By Missile

In Hinduism on July 30, 2014 at 19:13

In the Aranya Kanda , Ravana asks his sister Surpanaka,

 

‘Who is this Rama,who could Kill Kara, Dhushana  single-handedly?

 

 

What are his weapons?

 

kaH ca raamaH katham viiryaH kim ruupaH kim paraakramaH |
kim artham daNDakaaraNyam praviSTaH ca sudustaram || 3-34-2

2. raamaH kaH= Rama, who is; katham viiryaH= what, is his calibre; kim ruupaH= of what, mien; kim paraakramaH= what, is his bravery; su dustaram= highly, inscrutable; daNDaka araNyam= Dandaka forest; kim artham praviSTaH= what, for reason, he entered.

“Who is Rama? How brave he is? Of what mien and what calibre he is? And for what reason he entered the highly inscrutable Dandaka forest? [1-34-2]

‘Why this Rama has to come this far to Dandaka instead of loitering somewhere near Himalayas? Has he come purposefully with any revenge against us, the demons, or is it a pleasure-trip? Why should he leave his ancestral kingdom and enter Dandaka, a stronghold of demons?’ This is the real worry of Ravana. kena ca k˜raõena kula parampara ˜gatam pr˜jyam r˜jyam parityajya nikhila niþ˜cara v˜so asmin deþe sam˜gata× – dk Ravana might be unaware that Dandaka forest also belongs to Ikshvaku-s as Kishkindha belonged to them, as said by Rama at the time of eliminating of Vali.

 

Then on seeing Shurpanakha speaking bitter words against him in the presence of ministers, Ravana is verily infuriated and questioned her.

“Who is this Rama? How is his bravery? And of what mien and what might he is? And for what reason he entered the highly inscrutable Dandaka forest?

Comment: ‘Why this Rama has to come this far to Dandaka instead of loitering somewhere near Himalayas? Has he come purposefully with any revenge against us, the demons or is it a pleasure trip?’ is the real worry of Ravana. kena ca k˜raõena kula parampara ˜gatam pr˜jyam r˜jyam parityajya nikhila niþ˜cara v˜so asmin deþe sam˜gata× – dk ‘why should he leave his ancestral kingdom and enter Dandaka, a stronghold of demons?’ Ravana might be unaware that Dandaka also belongs to Ikshvaku-s as Kishkindha belonged to them, as said by Rama at the time of eliminating of Vali.

“What is the weapon of that Rama by whom these many demons are killed in war, also the unkillable Khara is killed and Dushana and Trishira likewise?

Comment: This can be simple question ‘What is his weapon?’ without telling round about as above. But Ravana is weighing arsenal balance since he is self-content a giant-robot namely Kumbhakarna, and one brave and all-trickster son Indrajit with his own ICBMs, ASMs and ASMs, plus his own invincibility. Thereby he said to be puzzled and asking: k˜ni k˜ni ca ˜yudh˜ni khara mukha niþ˜cra pr˜õa h˜ni kar˜õi – dk ‘you said that Rama caused this havoc single-handedly, then he should have used various and numerous weapons by which missiles are flung… because common sense does not permit any belief that one bow can dart numerous arrows or missile, that too when wielded by a single human…’..’

-Aranya Kanda, Sraga 34,  Sloka 2.

To take the view that Kumbhakarna was Robot is not sensible as he had two sons , Kumbha and Nikumbha.

Now consider these lies spoke by Vibhishana on Kumbhakarna adavncing in the Battle field.

“Sage Valmiki writes the thoughts of Brahma when he saw Kumbhakarna :

ध्रुवम् लोकविनाशाय पौलस्त्येनासि निर्मितः |
तस्मात्त्वमद्यप्रभृति मृतकल्पः शयिष्यसे || ६-६१-२४
(dhruvam loka vinaashaaya paulastyena asi nirmitaH |
tasmaat tvam adya prabhR^iti mR^ita kalpaH shayiSyase || )

Translation : It is sure that you were created by visravasa for the destroyal of people. On that account, you will be sleeping apparently dead from now onwards.

Here, he clearly uses the word ‘nirmitaH‘, which means ‘built/created‘ by Visravasa, who was Ravana’s father.
When Kumbhakarna was approaching Vanara Army and crushing them under his toes, they started to runway in fear.
Then Ravana’s brother Vibhishana reveal the truth of Kumbhakarna to Rama and his army.

उच्यन्ताम् वानराः सर्वे यन्त्रमेतत्समुच्छ्रितम् |
इति विज्ञाय हरयो भविष्यन्तीह निर्भयाः || ६-६१-३३
(uchyantaam vaanaraaH sarvE yantram etatsamuchchhritam |
iti vijNaaya harayO bhaviSyantiiha nirbhayaaH ||)

Translation : Let all the monkeys be told that it is a kind of machine, advancing forward. By knowing this, they can become fearless by now.

प्रक्षिप्ताः कुम्भकर्णेन वक्त्रे पातालसंनिभे |
नासापुटाभ्यां निर्जग्मुः कर्णाभ्याम् चैव वानराः || ६-६७-३६
(prakSiptaaH kumbhakarNena vaktre paataala samnibhe |
naasaapuTaabhyaam nirjagmuH karNaabhyaam chaiva vaanaraaH ||)

Translation : Hurled by Kumbhakarna in his mouth which was looking like a hole in the earth, the monkeys again came out from his nostrils and ears.

How can person enter into a gigantic person’s mouth and come out of nostrils and ears, unless the giant is a machine with no internal anatomy ?

But in same Ramayana, it was clearly stated that Kumbhakarna was married with Vajramala and had kumbh, nikumbh as sons.
These sons were killed by Hanuman.
So, Kumbhakarna must be an alive brother of Ravana, who operated a giant robot from its inside (like the AMP suit in Avatar movie).
So the robot was known with the same name of its operator.
Infact Kumbha-Karna means the one who has pot(kumbha) like ears(karna).
Rama used Vayuvyastra (a wind forced missile) to cut-off Kumbhakarna’s arm and later chopped its head.
When Kumbhakarna was shot down by arrows of Rama, he died and the robot which had nobody to control it, fell into the sea.
Upon knowing the death of Kumbhakarna, Ravana and his sons wept.

Citations.

http://ancientindianufo.blogspot.in/2013/07/amazingfuture-warfare-in-ancient-india.html

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/aranya/sarga34/aranya_34_prose.htm

Ravanas Descendants India Perform Sraddha

In Hinduism on July 28, 2014 at 21:13

Ravana‘s descendants’ and his wife Mandodari‘s home is in India.

 

It is referred to as Mandodari’s Ravana’s In Laws’ Home,Ravan Ki Sasural’.

 

Mandor where Ravana Married Mandodari.jpg

Mandor where Ravana Married Mandodari.

 

 The structure where the Altar of Ravan's marriage stands is a protected monument today.jpg

The structure where the Altar of Ravan’s marriage stands is a protected monument today.

 

It is Meerut, India.

 

The place where Ravana got married  to Mandodari is Mandor, is a town located 9 km north of Jodhpur city, in the Indian state of Rajasthan.

 

This is also the place where Rama’s Father Dasaratha, killed a Rishi’s son, Shravana Jumar, thinking he was a Deer and was cursed by his parents that Dasaratha shall die of separation from His son.

 

There is an old Chandi Devi temple in the compound of Nauchandi ground. It is believed that Ravan’s wife Mandodari used to come here to worship Goddess Chandi and since then every year a fete (Nauchandi Mela) is held in sacred days of Navratri ( also called days of Goddess )

 

After the archaeological excavations at ‘Vidura-ka-tila’, a collection of several mounds named after Vidura, in 1950–52, a site 37 km (23 miles) north-east of Meerut, it was concluded to be remains of the ancient city of Hastinapur, the capital of Kauravasand Pandavas of Mahabharata, which was washed away by Ganges floods.

Meerut also contained a Harappan settlement known as Alamgirpur. It was also the easternmost settlement of the Indus valley civilisation. Meerut had been a centre ofBuddhism in the period of Mauryan Emperor Ashoka (r. 273 BC to 232 BC.), and remains of Buddhist structures were found near the Jama Masjid in the present day city.

 

The descendants of Ravana through his wife Mandodari , it is claimed, live in Jodhpur, India.

 

They offer Sraddha or rites to the depated, Ravana during Dusshera.

“While the people throughout the country celebrate Dussehra, an occasion marking the triumph of good over evil, a section of about 100 families believed to be descendants of Ravana, mourn the death of the demon king. These families of Dave, Godha and Srimal clans settled in different localities of the walled city do not celebrate the occasion, instead they mourn and observe post cremation rituals after burning the effigies of Ravana, kumbhkarna and Meghnaad. It is said that people migrated from Sri Lanka in Jodhpur, Phalodi and some places in Gujarat belong to the Ravana’s clans and his extended family. Till recently these community people used to observe mourning and related rituals collectively but of late they have started to observe the same at individual level. Families of these clans also perform the “Shraadh karma” (death anniversary) of the demon king on 10th day during the Pitra Paksha (first fortnight of Ashwin month of India Vikram Calendar), Akshya Jyotish Research Centre Head Kamlesh Dave said. “We do consider Ravana a learned pundit and a devotee of Lord Shiva. A Ravana Temple has been constructed in the Amarnath Temple premises in Chandpol locality here in which Ravana is shown worshipping Lord Shiva,” Mr Dave said.

Read more at: http://news.oneindia.in/2008/10/09/descendants-of-ravana-hold-mourning-on-dussehra-1223535753.html

http://news.oneindia.in/2008/10/09/descendants-of-ravana-hold-mourning-on-dussehra-1223535753.html

http://creative.sulekha.com/mandodari-mandor-ravan-jee-ki-chanwari_63468_blog

Vibhishana Married Mandodari Ramayana

In Hinduism on July 28, 2014 at 19:07

There are various versions of the Ramayana.

There are some variations in the narrations among them.

Most notable among them, I thought was the one, which states that it was not the real Sita but Maya Sita.

But, Mandodari, who is considered to be a Chaste woman and kept on par with Arundhathi, Vasishta’s wife as a model of Faithful wives got married to Vibhishana, after Ravanas’ death, at the instance of Lord Rama.

 

Mandodari Mourns Ravana's Death.jpg

Queen Mandodari and the women of Lanka mourning the death of Ravana. Bas-relief of 9th century Prambanan temple, Java, Indonesia

 

This is from the Rama charita Manas by Tulsidas.

 

Mandodari was considered as one among the Pachkanya who were known for their chastity.

 

Ahalyā draupadi kuntī tārā mandodari tathā
pañcakanyā smarenityaṃ mahapātaka nāśanaṃ

Remembering ever the virgins five -Ahalya, Draupadi, Kunti, Tara and Mandodari
Destroys the greatest of sins.

 

“After the death of Ravana, Rama advises Vibhishana to take Mandodari as his wife, even though he already has a wife. A theory suggests that Ravana’s race may have had matrilineal families and thus, to restore order in the kingdom after Ravana’s death, it was necessary for Vibhishana to marry the reigning queen to get the right to rule.[13] Another theory suggests it may be a non-Aryan custom to marry the reigning queen.[12] The marriage between Mandodari and Vibhishana is purely an “act of statesmanship”, rather than a marriage based on their “mutual sexual interference”.[13]Mandodari may have agreed to marry Vibhishana, her younger brother-in-law, as this would lead the kingdom to prosperity and stability as allies of Rama’s Ayodhya, and she would continue to have a say in governance.[12] Another reason for the marriage is as an alternative to suicide for the widowed Mandodari, which is averted by Rama.

Adbuda Ramayana states that Mandodari was the Mother of Sita.

 

The Adbhuta Ramayana narrates: Ravana used to store the blood of sages he killed in a large pot. The sage Gritsamada was practicing penance to acquire the goddess Lakshmi as his daughter. He stored milk from Darbha grass and purified it with mantras in a pot so that Lakshmi would inhabit it. Ravana poured the milk from this pot into his blood pot. Mandodari is frustrated seeing the evil deeds of Ravana, so she decides to commit suicide by drinking the contents of the blood-pot, which is described to be more poisonous than poison. Instead of dying, Mandodari gets pregnant with the incarnation of Lakshmi due to the power of Gritsamada’s milk. Mandodari buries the foetus inKurukshetra, where it is discovered by Janaka, who named her Sita.

 

Valmiki’s Ramayana does not say anything to this effect.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandodari

 

Mandodari married Vibhishana Ramaharitamanas Link.

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=UT_tq0ilv88C&pg=PA25&dq=SUGRIVA+AND+VIBHISHANA&lr=&num=100&as_brr=3&sig=ACfU3U2TMN1d4pbSKEn9HSo7XcOpWm9lVA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=SUGRIVA%20AND%20VIBHISHANA&f=false

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