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Sthree Varsha Women Kingdom Rishi Varsha Russia Hindu Texts

In Hinduism on August 19, 2014 at 16:10

Russia was known as Rishi Varsha an it surrounded the Bharata Varsha as described in the Puranas.

 

There have migrations from India, from the Sarasvati Valley Civilization,from the Dravida Kingdoms, and from the North again.

 

There is enough evidence in the present Russia right from the names of Rivers,Olga,Moksha from which Moscow is derived,Karaggana, Utkaraganga,

 

People living in the valley of the River Moksha spoke a language Moksha!

 

Place Arkaim, the name of Surya, Sun is Arka.

 

Arkaim is an important archeological site .

 

Many Hindu Ritual signs are found here.

 

One finds the designs of swastika here and this site is dated 4500BC!

Arkaim, Russia.bmp

Arkaim, Russia.

Arkaim.

 

 

But reasonable reactions notwithstanding, why have people who are looking for their roots in the direction of Vedic ancestry been more suspect than any other indigenous people curious about their heritage? After all, it would appear to be an uncommonly large area upon which such ancestors would have enjoyed their apparently advanced culture. Such a culture would seem to have “fed” much of what we now call Western civilization and parts of Asia, including migrated tribes, such as American Indians and even Europeans settling America.

Moreover, as we also explore elsewhere regarding linguistic research efforts around the so-called Nostratic or Proto-Language question, some linguists are struggling with the possibility of linguistic ancestral roots for possibly ALL humankind, of all colors, so that the suspect idea of any “superiority” should be supported as an excitement for all of humanity maybe re-discovering its true origin and common spiritual heritage.

 

More at http://www.spaceoflovemagazine.com/article_arkaim.htm

 

Mahabharata describes the route to Russia while talking about Kekaya Kingdom.

 

Kaikeyi of Ramayana was born here.

 

“Lahore was the kingdom of Lava, son of Rama. ead my post on this.

Peshawar was the kingdom of Pushkalavathy ruled by Pushkala, son of Bharatha.

These two cities were established during the reign of Rama, the son of Dasaratha. These cities are in the route toKekaya, today’s Kazaksthan which was the maternal land of Kaikeyi, mother of Bhratha. One has to cross riverChakshus to reach Kekaya.  This river is now known as Oxus . It is shown in blue colour in this picture”

 

The Route to Russia,, Mahabharata.png

The Route to Russia,, Mahabharata.

 

People who lived in the valley near Moscow worshiped Indra and Vayu.

 

Moscow Empire was ruled by women called Sthree Rajya.

 

It was dominated by women – due to which it got the name Sthree Rajya – the land of women or dominated by women.  They were supposed to seduce men and lead a free life.

Varaha mihira has mentioned this place as one of the countries surrounding Bharatha varsha.

Vatsyanana also has mentioned about Sthree Rajya in the context of “Grama naari vishayam” where he has said that the women of Sthree Rajya  were free to have sex with a any man they liked.

Bhattasmin , the commentator for Artha sastra also has talked about SthreRajya as a country abounding in luxurious artilces and happiness.

 

Please read my post on where an ancient Vishnu Idol was found in Russia.

 

Also there are suggestions that the Rig Veda might have been composed in the Arctic.

 

Please refer my post.

 

So what now is called Russia was following Santana Dharma and many Rishis, Yagnyavalkya and Vasishta traveled and stayed there.,near Vaikhanasa now called Baikal.

 

 

Citation,

http://frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.in/2011/12/guest-blogger-jayasree-saranathan.html

Krishna’s 16,000 Wives Men Madhvacharya,Mahabharata Facts

In Hinduism on August 17, 2014 at 09:57

Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya is by Madhvacharya, which is a commentary on Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Birth of Veda Vyasa.

 

The Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya has 32 chapters.

 

The essence of this work of 32 chapters has been captured in a work called Bhava Sangraha by Sri Raghavendra Swamy. while the first Nine chapters deal with Ramayana tatprya Nirnaya, the 10th chapter describes the birth Shri Veda Vaysa. Rest deal with Mahabharata.

In the Bhava Sangraha, there are therefore 32 slokas followed by a concluding sloka.

 

This work states that the Mahabharata of Vyasa has to be studied in conjunction with the Ramayana.

 

This work contains some unknown and some controversial facts.

 

Some of them are.

 

1.The Mahabharata was altered and the correct version was by Madhvacharya , at the Bidding of Lord Vishnu.

2.Trijata, daughter of Vibhishana  was born as  Subhadra, sister of Lord Krishna.

3.There are  three forms of  Lakshmi.
Vedhabhimani Rama, Yajnabhimani Yagna and Dakshinabhimani Dakshina are the  forms of the same Lakshmi.

They are equal. The superiority of the second and the third forms is stated keeping in mind only their placement.

Vedhabhimani form is outside,  Yajnabhimani is on the lap of the God and Dakshinabhimani is the very part of the body.

 

4.16,000 wives of Krishna were Men, Agni Putras.

 

This wok contains more interesting information.

 

Importance has been given to Bhima than Arjuna.

 

This work’s authenticity is questioned by many.

 

“In the second chapter “vAkyoddhAraH” Acharya mentions his reasons for writing this work (From Reference 2). 2.3. In some places (of the Mahabharatha) verses have been interpolated and in others verses have been omitted in some places, the verses have been transposed and in others, different readings have been given out of ignorance or otherwise. 2.4. Though the works are really indestructible, they must be deemed to be mostly altered. Mostly all of them have disappeared and not even one crore (out of several crores of slokas) now exists. 2.5 – 2.7. When the original work itself is so altered, What is there to say of its meaning which is intelligible (even) to the Devas only with difficulty. When the work had thus become altered in the Kali age, under the direction of Hari for its clear understanding, I shall state the settled truths having known them through His grace, and also having well known the other (extinct) works and all the Vedas through His grace, and also having examined the various editions existing in several places. 2.8 – 2.9. Just as the all-powerful supreme Lord Vyasa who is no other than Narayana has narrated in the Bharatha and other works, I shall also, with the knowledge imparted by Him, briefly state the essential teachings of all the Sastras, in accordance with the interpretation of Bharatha. The Bharatha is stated to be the decisive authority on all the Sastras. 2.10. Formerly when all the Devas headed by Brahma and others and the Rishis had assembled once under the very direction of Vyasa, Bharatha was weighed as against the Vedas and all other Sastras by placing them upon the two scales of a balance, when Bharatha excelled (in weight). 2.11. This work is called MahaBharatha on account of its greatest weight and highest quality…

 

  • Other schools of thought dismiss certain Puranas as being composed by each sect supporting their own Gods. Sri Madhva has quoted from all Puranas and still showing that Sri Hari is supreme. In fact in TantraSara he shows that each alphabet corresponds to Sri Hari.(wiki Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya)

 

 

Read the Precis of the work at.

 

 

http://mahabharata-resources.org/mbtn/MBTN_3_harshala.pdf

Human Migration World History India

In History on August 12, 2014 at 19:16

I have often wondered about terms like Domicile and migration.

Human migration.png

Human migration.png

 

If we understand History and follow it, we shall know that no one can claim to be a domicile of any place!

 

The movement of Humans from prehistoric times is so complex and changing, it is impossible to say who was in one place first.

 

Whenever we read History of Human migration we find that when people move from one place,it is stated that they mixed with the people in that place.

 

How did these people come to be there?

 

And from where?

 

If migration takes place it has to be from one place to another.

 

The place from where they moved from, how did they arrive there at the first place?

 

European History says that Asia served as a sort of reservoir for Humans to migrate from.

 

How did they come to be there at all?

 

European history says, in migration, people came in waves from Asian, through the Urals and Russia, through the landmass of mideast .

 

The group that came through Russia settled down and mingled with people over there.

 

The other group .

 

The first wave settled in Spain Pyrenees, North of Africa, in England,Scotland and Wales,and in Gaul.

 

The second wave settled in Bulgaria, Hungary

 

The third wave Huns, settled finally in Germany, after raiding all the ethnic groups settled before them.

 

Then there were the Vikings who raided the Gauls, Anglo-Saxon.

 

However all the information here are theories.

 

There is yet another theory that states that people migrated from Africa.

 

Curious is that while the west acknowledges that The Vedas are the first Literature of Mankind and were in existence at least from 5000 BC

no body bothers to check the refernces found in the Vedas , Puranas, and Ithihasas on people, culture and places.

 

There is another Language and civilisation found in India which is as old as the Vedas .

 

Tamil.

 

Tamil literature is at least 500o years old.

 

Puranas quote Tamils, Tamil Kings.

 

Ramayana and Mahabharata do the same.

 

References are found in Sanskrit Literature, Tamil Literature  ,Vedas Puranas ,Ramayana and Mahabharata about people and places which are now Europe, US,Africa, Russia,

 

Middle east, Iran, Southeast Asia, Polynesia .

 

These references are not used, I presume, it hurts the pride of these scholars to accept India as a the cradle of Human Civilisation.

 

So overwhelming are the artifacts and archeological finds, they have to grudgingly accept Indus Valley civilisation!

 

They are yet to accept the Sarasvati Valley Civilisation.

 

The Tamil civilisation is totally ignored as also the influence of this culture in Huan Migration in world History.

 

I have also noticed a curious fact,

 

Hindu,Indian Religious, Cultural artifacts and archeological finds are found all over the world.

 

I have quite a few posts on this under Hinduism.

 

But not a single artifact or archeological find has been found in India relating to History or culture or Religion of the other civilisations in the world which predate Vedic period or Tamil culture.

 

I shall be examining the concept of Human migration from Dravida to rest of the world, including the Sarasvati Valley civilization.

 

This will be with help of Vedas, Puranas,Ramayana, Mahabharata, Tamil and Sanskrit Literature.

 

 

 

 

Ramayana In The Rig Veda

In Hinduism on August 7, 2014 at 09:53

In terms of Time Ramayana took place after the Vedas.

 

Lord Rama.jpg.

Lord Rama.

 

However there is a view that The Ramayana was during the close of the final portions of the Vedas.

 

Krita Yuga,also called the Satya Yuga, which preceded the Treta Yuga when Ramayana took place.

 

It was considered to be perfect Yuga where people were Righteous to the core.

 

People had a Life span of 100,000 years.

 

There is no Avatar as there was no necessity.

 

But the question remains as to who were these people in this Yuga and where does Daksha fit in.

 

Now on to the Rig Veda and the Ramayana.

 

It will be an internal contradiction to have Ramayana quoted in the Rig Veda as Ramayana was later to Vedas.

 

Even if we accept the view that the Ramayana happened during the closing years of the Vedas, then what about yajur Veda which was practised in the Ramayana.

 

This can be resolved only if all the Vedas were grasped at the same time..

 

However there is reference  to Ramayana and Rama in the Rig Veda.

 

There is a Rama Rahasya Upanishad in the Vedas.

 

Please read my post on this.

 

There is also a verse in the Rig Veda on the name Rama.

 

“14 This to Duḥśīma Pṛthavāna have I sung, to Vena, Rama, to the nobles, and the King.
They yoked five hundred, and their love of us was famed upon their way.
15 Besides, they showed us seven-and-seventy horses here.
Tānva at once displayed his gift, Pārthya at once displayed his gift; and straightway Māyava showed his.” XCIII Visvedevas.

Vena is the ancestor of Rama.

In the absence of Dasaratha reference, some dispute the name Rama as the Rama of Ramayana.

 

There is an interesting  note found in the Bala Kanda of Ramayana.

 

Valmiki wrote that he wrote the Ramayana to expound The Vedas.

 

“kushiilavau tu dharmaGYau raajaputrau yashasvinau |
bhraatarau svarasampannau dadarsha aashramavaasinau ||
sa tu medhaavinau dR^ishhTvaa vedeShu pariniShThitau |
vedopabR^ihmaNaarthaaya taavagraahayata prabhuh ||
kaavyaM raamaayaNaM kR^itsnaM siitaayaashcharitaM mahat.h|
paulastya vadhamityeva chakaara charitavrataH||

(vAlmIki-rAmAyaNa-bAlakANDa 1.4.5-7)

The princes, the brothers, Kusha and Lava, were knowledgeable about Dharma and were glorious. Their voices were melodious and they lived in the hermitage of (vAlmIki). He (vAlmIki), established in good deeds, observed those two extremely intelligent (princes), skilled in the Vedas, and for the sake of expounding the Vedas, he composed and made them study the poem sampUrNa-rAmAyaNa (the entire rAmAyaNa) (containing) the great story of sItA and the slaying of rAvaNa.

These verses from the vAlmIki-rAmAyaNa clearly show that the sage vAlmIki composed the rAmAyaNa to expound the meaning of the Vedas.

Since rAmAyaNa is based on the Vedas, there must be mantras in the Vedas that correspond to the immortal story of rAma. It is with this objective that nIlakaNTha, the great commentator on the mahAbhArata, has presented, with his own wonderful commentary, the mantra-rAmAyaNa. The mantra-rAmAyaNa is a compilation of Riks from the R^ig Veda that narrate the story of rAma or the rAmAyaNa.”…

 

For this reason, vAlmIki bases the twenty-four thousand verses of the rAmAyaNa on the twenty-four akshhara’s (syllables) of the gAyatrI mantra (of the Vedas).

nIlakaNTha quotes from the agastya-saMhitA to further support the fact that the rAmAyaNa story is drawn from the Vedas:

vedavedaye pare puMsi jAte dasharathAtmaje |
vedaH prAchetasAdAsIt.h sAxAdrAmAyaNAtmanA |
tasmAdrAmAyaNaM devi veda eva na saMshayaH ||…

 

http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/articles/rig_vedic_ramayana/rig_vedic_ramayana-1.htm

Where Is The Reference To The Bible

In Hinduism on August 6, 2014 at 18:03

India and Hinsuim is pilloried for its tardiness in maintaing its History.

 

There  are no historical references, no continuity in Indian History nor any official crdible History.

 

This is the view among most of the Indians, that most of Indian History is a fable.

 

The west is not far from holding this view.

 

Is this a Fact?

 

Let us look at some facts.

 

1.References of Hindu Epics and The Veda are found in the literature that existed in the corresponding period where/when they came  into existence.

 

I have not used the term written as the Vedas, it is believed were not written and they were transmitted orally over Five Thousand Years.

 

 

The Mahabharata refers to the Ramayana.

 

 

The Puranas refer to both Ramayana and the Bible, not to speak of the Vedas.

 

All the literary works in India refer to the Vedas, Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

 

These are works belonging to the years before Christ.

 

2.Post Christ Era.

 

All the works in India refer to all of these at least in the two languages I know, Sanskrit and Tamil, of these Tamil is at least 500 year old.

 

Tamil works of the Sangam period which are t least 500 years older than the Bible quotes the Hindu Epics and the Vedas.

 

Old Testament.jpg

Old Testament.

 

One of the major tools in determing the existence of a Literay work or event is the cross refernce in the  Text, refernce to it by works of the same period

and its refernce to it at least in the earliest succeeding work.

 

Hinduism fulfills these tests.

 

What about the Bible?

 

Bible is taken so seriously that people have fixed even time scale on Christ!

 

Has the Bible been referred to in the works of the same period or in the period immediately succeeding it?

 

I do not seem to find it anywhere.

 

Excepting Bible refrences in the non Cannonical texts of the Bible.

 

All the cannonical texts are taken as  a part of the Bible.

 

This is like Ramayana proving Ramyana in itself!-by taliking about it in The Ramayana.

 

And the Hebrew Bible called Hebrew Bible, also known as the Tanakh by Jews, is the earliest refernce to The Bible.

 

And the Tanakh is dated at  2 Century BC, that is 200 Years before Christ!

 

4.

“Perhaps the most obvious way that the Bible has inspired writers can be seen in the ways that works of literature actually retell stories found in the Bible. John Milton’s Paradise Lost, for example, retells the biblical fall of man in a long, epic poem, including Satan’s rebellion against God and Adam and Eve’s expulsion from Eden.

Similarly, John Steinbeck‘s East of Eden is roughly structured around the biblical story of Cain and Abel. Another example can be seen in C.S. Lewis’s The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Following the biblical story of God as the all-powerful savior, Lewis uses the Bible to create parts of his plot,   by especially with the return of King Aslan, which parallels Jesus’s return.

Other writers take images in the Bible and expand on them or use them as a setting, such as Dante, who used the Bible’s description of the afterlife to create an epic 3-volume poem that explores Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven, titled the Divine Comedy.”

 

 

And Dante’s period is  1265–1321 !, full 1200 Years after Christ.

 

Why there is no reference to The Bible at all in the earlier works between the Bible and the Divine Comedy?

 

 

Perhaps there was no literature!

 

3.The Bible should have been referred to corresponding literature of the same period.

 

I do not find any reference at all.

 

Now which History is credible?

 

Hinduism where Rama’s and Krishna’s dates have been proved,places mentioned have been identified, refernces to them are found every where in Indian Literature,in Japan,Cambodia, Laos,Lanka, Russia, Italy,Americas,and Africa or

 

The Bible and the western History?

 

 

http://education-portal.com/academy/lesson/the-bible-as-literary-influence-references-and-allusion.html#lesson

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