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Are The Vedas Obscene

In Hinduism on October 16, 2014 at 09:29

I have come across an article which claims to have analyzed the Vedas in-depth, with quotes and translations from eminent persons like Swami Dayananda Sarasvati,concluding  that the Vedas are Obscene.

 

 

I have published an article on whether Rama’s Mother Kausalya indulged in Horse sex and orgy.

 

Although all three of King Dasaratha’s wives were united with the carcass of the horse, Rama’s mom Kausalya was the one who had the honor of spending a whole night with the dead animal’s genitals plugged in her vagina: “

 

Another on the observation that the Vedas contain and promote Incest.

 

‘Swami Dayanand Saraswati, in his book Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika on the authority of Rigved 1/164/33, uses immoral language to convey the working of the natural phenomenon. You can yourself assess the cheap nature of this allegory, which promotes and glorifies incest”

 

Links are provided towards the close of the Post and you may read my rebuttals.

 

Now to the conclusion that the Vedas are obscene.

 

1.One should study the Vedas in its entirety.

 

The Vedas are not Books that are compiled to promote a particular group nor are they founded by some one who visits Heaven in a Horse, reads the Laws of God written in a Stone(as if God can not remember His own Laws) and reveals(?) after  some time (possibly for recollection).

 

The Vedas are grasped from the Ether by various people of various dispositions and were transmitted through word of mouth.

 

Unlike some Religions, Hinduism, does not believe in numbers nor does it proclaim that  those who do not  subscribe to it are Infidels,Heathen, nor does it consign them to Hell.

Information as experienced, as distinct from  being learned, were compiled later by Vyasa for People to refer and follow, if they so desire.

 

2.The Vedas need 36 years of study or at least seven years to understand.

 

3.The core teaching has to be grasped, that of,

 

Reality being a Principle,

 

That It has No name and Form,

 

That the Deavatas and the Timurthis, Brahma, Vishnu ans Rudra are prone to emotions and they pay for their actions.

 

Especially the Deavatas like Indra , Varuna, Agni, Vayu and others are only a slightly more evolved Beings than Man:they undergo the trails and tribulations as we Humans go through because of our desires.

 

3.Some of the passages quoted in the article are allegorical and they do not promote obscenity.

 

4.To understand the Vedas , one must know that Vedas, at the Highest level do not subscribe to the concept of Sin at all.

 

It says that the so-called Sins are the result of Human Nature nd warns people to stay away if they want to develop spiritually.

 

Sanctions are imposed by the Smritis and not by the Sruthi(Vedas)

 

Later The Ithihasas, Ramayana,  Mahabharata and the Puranas express this idea from real life and expose the perils of such desires.

 

But this concept needs maturity to understand.

 

In the hands of the immature this would promote personal degradation and social instability.

 

5.And one must understand that The Puranas,and the Vedas are facts and they reveal what is the Truth, even if it be unpalatable and by our human standards sinful.

 

Facts, in the view of Hinduism, are facts, even if the perpetrators are Gods themselves.

 

It may be Indra when he forcefully enjoyed Ahalya,Lord Rama when He killed Vaali by hiding behind a tree or Lord Krishna’s son who ridiculed Sages.

 

Rig Veda 10.110.5 Spacious doors remain wide open like beautiful wives for their husbands. O divine doors, great and all-impellers, be easy of access to the gods.Capture1

 

Yaska Acharya explains this verse as

Nirukta 8.10 ”Having spaciousness, make yourself wide open as exceedingly beautiful wives do their thighs for their husbands in sexual intercourse. The thighs are the most beautiful parts (of the body)…”

 

The next verse is even more obscene,

 

‘‘Just as a wife, the recipient of semen, at the time of cohabitation keeps her head opposite to the head of the husband, and her face opposite to that of his, so should both husband and wife perform together their domestic duties. A husband is a protector like a physician. He lives happily like a child, and with tranquillity produces progeny with penis keen with ardour.”- Yajur Veda 19.88, Tr. Devi Chand (Arya Samaj), p.215.

 

What is obscene  in describing the actual sex position?

 

Hinduism does nor  abhor sex for it knows it is Natural

 

As to the first portion of this quote, it is a simile .

 

“We read in newspaper about some Hindu scholars condemning homosexuality. But do they have any evidence that prohibits homosexuality in Hinduism? Hindu scholars fail to furnish any reference which condemns homosexuality but still some try to term homosexuality as irreligious act. Fortunately there are some Hindu scholars like Shri Shri Ravishankar who honestly accept such facts, below are two snapshots of his tweets

 

True.

 

Hinduism accepts LGBT.

 

What is wrong in it?

 

Please read my post on this.

 

Animal Sex.

Some protestant Hindus proudly promote Vedas as philosophical, free from all vulgarities. But in reality there is no limit for Vulgarity in Vedas. It even promotes sex with animals let alone adultery and pornography. Sex with animals in Hinduism is not a vulgar thing, Ancient Hindu temples like Khajuraho, Ajanta, Ellora clearly depicts men and girls having sex with animals.

 

”As a buffalo (Indra) desired the lusty female born from himself; the mena of the horse he made into the mother of the cow”- Rig Veda 1.121.2, Tr. Geldner.

 

Maharshi Yaska mentions a strange story about the birth of Asvins (the twin horsemen). The story says Saranyu was unwilling to have sex with Vivasvat and ran away but Vivasvat chased her and raped her. Yaska writes,

 

”Saranyu daughter of Tvastr bore twins, Yama and Yami, to Vivasvat the sun. She having substituted another lady of similar appearance, and having assumed the shape of a mare, ran away. He, Vivasvat, the sun, having also assumed the shape of a horse, pursued her, and joined her. Thence the Asvins were born. Manu was born from the lady of similar appearance.” Nirukta 12.10

 

In all these cases the perversions of Human Nature are exposed.

 

They are not promoted.

 

In these cases the individual has sex with the animals after assuming the form of the animal, there is no Human animal sex here.

 

The articles other points merit)?) the same rebuttal.

 

I forgot to add that some of the meanings are by western scholars(?) to malign Hinduism and promote Christianity.

 

Citation.

http://truthabouthinduism.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/there-is-indeed-obscenity-in-vedas/

 

Related.

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/kausalya/

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/incest-in-the-vedas/

 

 

Rama Pattabhisheka Pitru Welfare Happiness Children Valmiki

In Hinduism on September 12, 2014 at 11:05

People are aware of the benefits of reciting the Sundara Kanda of Ramayana.

 

Rama Pattbhisheka grants  good results,declares Valmiki.

 

 

Reciting the Pattabhisheka Sarga on seven or nine days will yield very good results.

 

Naivedyam.

 

Panaka,Neermor,Vada and Sakkarai Pongal.

 

Other procedures as explained in my post Procedures for Sundara Kanda Parayana.

 

 

What are the beneficial results by Rama Pattabhisheka Parayana.

 

On hearing the narrative of his coronation in this world, a person seeking for,

 

sons gets sons.

 

for wealth, gets the riches.

 

A king conquers the earth and overcomes his enemiesven as Kausalya, the mother has Rama as her living son, or as Sumitra has Lakshmana or as Kaikeyi has Bharata, the women likewise can become mothers of living sons, endowed with children as well as grand children and thus become happy forever.

 

a person gets longevity to life. He or she, who hears with attention and with a subdued anger, this poetic composition done by Valmiki long ago, that person overcomes the difficulties.

Whoever hears this poetical composition written by Valmiki long ago, they at the conclusion of their absence from home, meet their relatives and get rejoiced. They get all the boons, entreated from Rama.

All the gods get pleased with those who carefully listen to it.

Whoever carefully listens to the epic in his house, all obstacles come to an end. A king conquers the earth. A person staying away from home, fares well. On hearing the epic, the menstruating women give birth to excellent sons. The adorer and the reader of this ancient epic gets relieved of all sins and obtains longer life.

The epic is to be listened by warrior-class, after offering their salutation with their heads bent low, from brahmins every day regularly.

There is no doubt that the listener and the reader of this entire Ramayana will get lordship and the birth of a son.

Rama gets forever pleased with him who listens to or reads Ramayana daily.

He is indeed the eternal Vishnu, the Lord of preservation.

Rama is the primordial Lord, clearly placed before the eyes the powerful Lord removing the sins and the great-armed; who has abode on waters (of the ocean of milk) Sesha (the serpent-god forming his couch is said to be Lakshmana.

Tell this epic which occurred long ago in this manner, to those who ask for it, fearlessly. Let there be happiness to you! Let the strength of Vishnu increase! By studying and listening to this epic, all the gods get appeased. By listening to this Ramayana, the forefathers forever get pleased.

To those persons who transcribe with devotion this collection of poems depicting the story of Rama residence in heaven is assured

By listening to this highly meaningful and auspicious poetical composition, a person gets family-prosperity, augmentation in money and grain, superior women, exquisite happiness and all the acquisition of wealth on this earth.

This narrative is to be listened invariably by good people, seeking for wisdom, longevity, health, fame, fraternity, intelligence, welfare and brilliance.

Citation. Check the Link for Text and Translation.

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/yuddha/sarga128/yuddha_128_prose.htm

Image credit.

http://kirtimukha.com

Ramayana Sundara Kanda Navaha Slokas Video,Benefits

In Hinduism on September 11, 2014 at 11:59

I had posted an article on  the procedure to be followed in Sundarakanda Parayana.

 

I deliberately left the Navaha in the article.

 

 

That is reciting the Sundara Kanda 68 Chapters in Nine Days.

 

Reason is that the Navaha is most effective and I wanted to post an artilce on this.

 

There are 68 chapters in the Sundarakanda.

 

And Rama Pattabhisheka from Yuddha Kanda is to be recited on the concluding day.

 

So for Nine days it totals to 69 chapters.

 

Recite Eight chapters a Day or Seven days.

 

On the Eighth Day , Six Chapters.

 

On the Ninth, concluding day , recite the balance Seven chapters.

 

Begin with Parayana Slokas before Sundara Kanda.

 

Smarthas may follow Smartha Sampradaya Parayana  Slokas and Sri Vaishnavas, Vaishnava Smpradaya Slokas.

 

Follow the other procedures as mentioned in my earlier post.

 

Link is provided here, which also details the Naivedya to be offered.

 

Benefits of reading Sundara Kanda.

 

  • Salvation can be achieved by reading the first chapter daily for six months.
  • Effect of attack of devils, ghosts, spirits can be warded off by reading 3rd chapter.
  • To get rid of dullness of brain, read 13th chapter
  • To get rid of the sin of having affair with some one else’s wife, read chapters 7-11.
  • To get permanent wealth and happiness read chapter 15.
  • To get rid of bad dreams read Chapter 27.
  • To get good behavior read chapter 20-21.
  • To rejoin with lost relatives read chapters 33-40.
  • To get rid of impending danger read chapter 36.
  • To get pardon from god for insult done to him knowingly and unknowingly read chapter 38.
  • Read chapters 42-47 to win over enemies
  • To become just and charitable read chapter 51
  • For improvement of assets like house, land etc read chapter 54.
  • To get peace and happiness read Chapter 61
  • To get perennial happiness and to attain God read chapter 67.
  • To get what one wishes read chapter 41
  • To realize God and to become one capable of sweet words read chapter 19.

The Navaha delivers all the results one desires.

 

 

Rama With Four Arms Conch Sudarshan Chakra

In Hinduism on September 7, 2014 at 17:59

It is rare to find Lord Rama with four arms and Chank and Chakra.(Conch and Discus)

 

One Temple is in Bhadrachalam,Andhra Pradesh,India.

 

 

Rama is an Avatar where he was not conscious that he was the Avatar of Vishnu whereas In Krishna Avatar He was aware all the while.

 

There is a Temple Ponpadhar Koodam, a small village at about 10 kms east of Chengalpattu, just further to PV Kalathur.

 

Sri Raama is seen here with Sri Sita Devi, Sri Lakshmana on the sides and Sri Hanuman in front of them.

 

Hanuman is in front of Sri Rama,seen in a very humble gesture facing Sri Rama with His palm closing the mouth in obedience.

 

This Hanuman  is called Sri Bhavya Aanjaneyar.

 

“यत्र यत्र रघुनाथकीर्तनं तत्र तत्र कृतमस्तकांजलिम्
वाष्पवारिपरिपूर्णालोचनं मारुतिं नमत राक्षसान्तकम्
Yatra Yatra Raghunaatha-Kiirtanam Tatra Tatra Krta-Mastaka-Anjalim
Vaasspa-Vaari-Paripuurnnaa-Locanam Maarutim Namata Raakssasa-Antakam ||

Meaning:
1: Wherever the Glories of Raghunatha are Sung, there, with Hands held over His Bowed Head in Salutation, …
2: … and Eyes Filled with Tears, Maruti (Bhakta Hanuman) is Present; I Salute Maruti Who puts an End to the Rakshasas.”

 

Once in 1982, Pattaabhishekam was performed to Sri Rama here.

 

When the rituals were happening, a monkey had visited the temple sat quietly and had witnessed the whole ceremony and had left the place after the Pattaabhhishekam, without disturbing anyone.

According to the native villagers, there were no monkeys present in the village before and after this incident.

But no one knows how a lone monkey arrived at the temple exactly for the Pattaabhishekam ceremony.

The villagers believe that it was Sri Hanuman Himself, who came and witnessed Sri Rama Pattabhishekam.

 

How to reach.

 

Ponpadhar Koodam can be reached from Chengalpattu by Road, Buses, autos available.

 

Chengalpattu is 57 km by Road, by Train 31 km

 

Buses and Suburban Trains are available.

 

Airport.Chennai Meenambakkam.

 

 

Hanuman Shifts Sanjeevi Parvatha Right To Left Temple

In Hinduism on September 5, 2014 at 12:49

Struck by the Astra of Indrajit, son of Ravana, Lakshmana fainted.

 

On the advice of Sage Agastya, Hanuman flew and brought the Sanjeevi Parvatha, unable to find a particular herb to the battle field in Sri Lanka.

 

While bringing it, he had to pass through a temple of Lord Venkateswara.

 

 

He wanted to worship the Lord.

 

As a mark of respect, he shifted the Sanjeevi parvatha from his left hand to the right.

 

As Hanuman did not keep the mountain down, the place is called  ‘place where the mountain was not kept’ திருமலை வையாவூர்.

 

The Prasanna Venkatesa Temple is 70 km from Chennai and 18 km from Chengalpattu.

 

Nearest Railway station.Chennai, Chengalpattu.

 

Bus Station.Chengalpattu.

 

While traveling from Chennai, after crossing Chengalpattu, one can find Padaalam Cross Road (Koot Road) from where a road goes off GST Road on the right side. This road leads to Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor.

 

Airport. Chennai.

 

Buses are available from Chengalpattu.

 

The main deity Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal is seen facing west.

The Lord is beautifully decorated with ornaments and gives dharshan exactly as in Thirupathi. Goddess Sri Alarmel Mangai Thaayaar has a separate shrine here.

There are separate shrines for Sri Aandaal and Sri Ramanuja too.

 

More legends.

 

Once a demon king called Hiranyaakshan took the earth and kept under his custody, hiding it deep inside the ocean. Lord Vishnu took Varaaha Avatar, killed the demon and brought back the earth to its position. After this Sri Varaaha Perumaal wished to take abode on a hill to bless the world. He directed Sri Garuda to bring a hill from Vaikuntam itself. Sri Garuda Bhagavan brought a hill from Vaikuntam and placed it near the banks of Swarnamuki River, which was called Garudagiri (present Thirupathi). While Sri Garuda carried the hill, a small part of it broke and fell near the banks of the river Palar and came to be known as Dhakshina Garudagiri (Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor).

After placing the hill in the banks of river Swarnamuki, Sri Garuda prayed God to see His Viswaroopa Dharsanam. As wished by Sri Garuda, Lord Vishnu gave him Viswaroopa Dharshan in the form of Sri Varaaha Perumaal here at Dhakshina Garudagiri.

Once, Lord Vishnu told Sri Aadhiseshan to take the form of a mountain on Garudagiri, for Him to take abode and bless the world during Kaliyugam. Sri Aadhiseshan took form of a hill on Garudagiri and from then the place (Thirupathi) came to be known as Seshagiri. Lord Vishnu took abode as Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal on Seshagiri in the Thamizh month of Purattaasi, on the day of Dwadasi when ‘Thiruvonam’ star occurred.

Sri Aadhiseshan prayed Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal and told that he had a wish to serve as an umbrella to the Lord. Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal agreed and told that his wish would come true at Dhakshina Garudagiri. In Thirumalai Vaiyaavoor Sri Aadhiseshan is seen above the deity Sri Srinivaasa Perumaal’s head as an umbrella. Hence, this place came to be known as Dhakshina Seshagiri.

 

Citation.

http://www.dharsanam.com/2008/03/thirumalai-vaiyaavoor-sri-prasanna.html

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