Posts Tagged ‘Rama’
The Myth perpetrated by The British and the propagation of it by the Christian Missionaries cloaked as scholars like Caldwell.
The goal for the West very clear, to destroy the Hindu culture to such an extent that they embrace the Western thoughts( and this would consolidate the British Empire in India) and hate Indian Thoughts and they have succeeded in this .
Even to-day this is being taught in Indian schools.
1.There is no mention of the Dravidians in the Vedas.
The Rik Veda lists the things imported from ‘Dravida’ meaning ‘South’, Pearls,Elephant Tusks.
2.The Vishnu Purana mentions that sage Viswamitra, the Rishi who gave the world the Gayathri mantra, exiled his 56 sons for disobeying him the south of Vindhyas,’Dravida’
3. Earliest Tamil Grammar, Tholkappiyam, Literature of the Sangam Period do not mention the word ‘Dravida’ at all.
4. Adi Sankaracharya mentions the word ‘Dravida Sisu, to identify Tirugnanasambandar, (who lived around the 7th century,) in his ‘Soundaryalahari’9Sloka 75)
“tava stanyaṃ manye dharaṇidharakanye hṛdayataḥ
payaḥ pārāvāraḥ parivahati sārasvatamiva |
dayāvatyā dattaṃ draviḍaśiśu-rāsvādya tava yat
kavīnāṃ prauḍhānā majani kamanīyaḥ kavayitā || 75 ||
5.The Kings of south India were ardent followers of Vedic Rites.
During the megalithic period of about 1000 BCE – 400 BCE, people of South India including Tamilagam, shared many beliefs and practices of thenative Dravidian religion with the megalithic builders elsewhere in the Indian subcontinent and beyond. The famous 3.5 metre-high granite figure excavated at Mottur, in present-day Vellore district, is considered the oldest known anthropomorphic representation of God in stone in the Tamil country...
Chera King Perunchotruudhiyan Neduncheralaathan, fed the Panadavas and Kauravas Armies during the Epic war of Mahabharata.
He performed the ‘Tharpana, in his Chera Kingdom, now Kerala for those who died in the War.
It is believed that the great hermit Agastya, who had performed such wonderful deeds by the merits of his penance, is still doing penance in the Agastya Kuta hills. Agastya who had travelled through- out the length and breadth of Bharata had several hermitages. In the Valmiki Ramayana, Aranyakanda, Sarga 11, a description is given, of a beautiful hermit- age of Agastya, and the peaceful atmosphere that prevailed in and around it. Agastya had presented to Sri Rama a bow got from Visnu, when the brothers visited his hermitage. Agastya had accompanied Sri Rama and his followers on his return journey to Ayodhya from Lanka, with Slta after killing Ravana. There is a legend in the Tamilnad that Agastya was a member of the first two 'Saiighas' (groups) of the "three Sanghas", mentioned in Tamil literature. As Agastya was dwarfish he is mentioned as Kurumuni, (short hermit) in Tamil works. He has written a Tamil grammar on music, literature and drama. But this work is not available now. The Tamil Grammar 'Tolkapyam', which is considered to be the oldest gram- mar, was written by Tolkapyar, one of the twelve disciples of Agastya< Even today in certain temples in the Tamilnad, Agastya-worship is carried on. Kambar, has mentioned about Agastya in his Ramayana. A great Tamil author Villiputturan says that the Tamil langu- age is the beautiful maiden presented by Agastya. It is believed that the following works have been com- posed by Agastya: 7. Archaeological Proof. There are more than 2,500 Archaeological sites, two-thirds of which are along the recently discovered dried up Sarasvati River bed. These sites show a cultural continuity with the Vedic literature from the early Harrapan civilization up to the present day India. 8. Sarasvati River. Several independent studies of the drying up of the Sarasvati River bed, all indicate the same time period of 1,900 B.C.E. 9.The late dating of the Vedic literatures by indologists is based on speculated dates of 1,500 B.C.E. for the Aryan Invasion and 1,200 B.C.E. for the Rig Veda, both now disproved by scientific evidence. Sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_ancient_Tamil_country http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas.htmlhttp://archive.org/stream/puranicencyclopa00maniuoft/puranicencyclopa00maniuoft_djvu.txt
- Rama Spoke Tamil In Ayodhya (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
- Lemuria Home Of Tamils In Ramayana ,Mahabharata (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
I could have brushed it aside for the thought seemed to be outrageous.
The references in the article were compelling, them being quoted from The Ramayana, the early Tamil Literature,Puranas .
It is said Sanskrit belongs to Aryan Group of languages while Tamil belongs to the Dravidian Group.
This thought was propagated by The British when they colonized India concurrent with the theory floated by them that the Aryans invaded Davidians.
I leave the judgement to the readers.
I feel that the references in the post need careful evaluation with an open mind.
‘LP. KR. Ramanathan Chettiar and a host of others. He was widely respected as letters written to him by the great scholar and patron of scholars, Pandithurai Thevar, “Thamizh Thatha” U. Ve. Saminatha Iyer, Srinivasa Pillai of Thanjavur, who wrote the “Thamizh Varalaru”, Pandithamani Kathiresan Chettiar and others, which are in our possession now, show. He has established through these articles that Tamil was the spoken language throughout Bharath or India, during the Ramayana period and even earlier while Sanskrit was the language of the litterateurs and it was in Tamil that Lord Rama and others conversed in Ayodhya).’
Valmiki wrote a Sangam Poem.
The “Purananooru” poem by Vanmikiyar also glorifies the importance of penance. It contains many words and sentences, which are pleasing to the ears, have great depth, and contain many Vedantic truths. It is very much in tune with his Ramayana verses.
The poem has not been commented upon by later day scholars. To help research scholars, the poem, with its commentary, is given below:
“Parithi soozhnda vippayankezhu maanilam
oru pahal ezhuvar eithiyatre
vaiyamum thavamum thookitravathukku
ayyavi anaithum aatrathu aagalin
kaivittanare kaathalar adhanal
vittorai vidaall thiruve
vidaa thorivall vidappattore”
The meaning of this poem is that the world is surrounded by the Sun who drives away darkness. This earth is full of worldly pleasures, which are not eternal, and many kings claimed possession of this world as a day is divided into many parts and each part (Horai) is looked after by a “Horai Nayagan”. Some of them are big, others small. Some of them are inauspicious, while others are considered as auspicious and some of them are considered as enemies of each other. They are the masters of their own time and cannot interfere in other’s time. The worldly life is so impermanent, but what gives one permanence is penance. If one puts the benefits of worldly life in one plate in a balance and that of penance in the other, he will find the former stands no comparison with the latter. Hence many kings who ruled this world renounced it and became ascetics’…
Instead of naming it Soundaryakandam, Valmiki has given the name of Sundarakandam as it is more pleasing to the ears and even those who are not well versed can understand its meaning. But Valmiki was a Sanskrit poet. Why did he not name it as Soundaryakandam following the Sanskrit custom and named it as Sundarakandam following the Tamil custom? It was because he was well versed in Tamil and wanted to make known to the Sanskrit scholars such a fine usage. He wanted Sanskrit scholars to study many Tamil works. It is the custom of epic poets to make known the greatness of works in other languages to Sanskrit scholars…
Tamil, The Language of Maknkind, Manusha Bhasha.
. “Antharathvaha maasaadhya raakshashenami hasthitha”
(I have reached this place when the demonesses are taking rest)
2. “Sanairachvaasyishyami santhaapa bahu dhamimam”
(I will try to pacify her, as she is highly agitated)
3. “Ahamthvathithanuchaiva vaanarascha visheshatha”
(I am a monkey, which is a small creature, not respected by others)
4. “Vaachannodhaa harishyaami maanusheemiva samskruthaam”
(If I speak the language spoken by human beings which is full of grammar)
5. Yathivaacham praathasyami dwijathiriva samskruthaam
(If I spoke Sanskrit, which is spoken by the twice born (dwija – Brahmin)
6. Ravanam manyamanaa maam sita bhithaa bhavishyathi
(Sita will think that Ravana has come disguised as a monkey)..
ஒரு பகல் எழுவர் எய்தியற்றே
வையமும் தவமும் தூக்கிற்றவக்துக்
கையவி யனைத்து மாற்றா தாகலிர்
கைவிட்டனரே காதலர் அதனால்
விட்டோரை விடாள் திருவே
விடாதோர் இவள் விடப்பட்டோரே ”
- Ramayana Data Tools For Dating Proof. (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
- EVR,Father Of Tamils” Views Tamil Thirukkural Tamils (ramanan50.wordpress.com)
They can be divided into two parts.
1.Internal Evidence linking to the other happenings during the period, which in turn refer to the Ramayana.
2.The events in The Ramayana described are annotated with the planetary configurations, like
the Birth of Lord Rama,
Kara, Dhushan’s Fight with Rama,
Eclipses during the period of Ramayana,
Descriptions of Twelve Constellations during Hanuman’s return journey from Sri Lanka to Sunaabh Hill in the middle of the sea which apparently took about four and a half hours from 6:30 AM to 11 AM. All these details of planets and nakshtras with reference to eight constellations described in Sarga 57 (1, 2, 3) of chapter five tally exactly with the sky view generated by the software for the morning of 14th September 5076 BC from Lanka.
Sea Level Curve of the Rama Sethu,Adam’s Bridge.
These have been analysed by
1. Sun in Aries 2. Saturn in Libra 3. Jupiter in Cancer 4. Venus in Pisces 5. Mars in Capricorn 6. Lunar month of Chaitra 7. Ninth day after Amavasya 8. Lagna as Cancer 9. Moon near the star Punar vasu (Pollux) in Gemini Constellation.
Moon & Jupiter were shining together in Cancer.
This data was entered into the ‘Planetarium Gold’ software, the results indicated that this was exactly the location of planets/stars vis-à-vis zodiac constellations on the 10th of January noon time in the year 5114 BC if viewed from latitude/longitude of Ayodhya (25°N 81°E). Thus Shri Ram was born on 10th January in 5114 BC.
By making use of software to convert solar calendar into lunar calendar, it was found that this date also happened to be the 9th day of Shukla Paksha in ‘Chaitra’ month and the time was around 12 to 1 noontime. This is exactly the time and date when Ramnavmi is celebrated all over India till date .
Ram’s Bridge – its satellite image and oceanographic evidences:
Satellite Image A few years back, NASA had put pictures on internet of this bridge, the ruins of which are found submerged in Palk Strait between Rameshwaram (Dhanush Koti) and Mannar (Thalaimannar). The bridge is composed of a series of islands, rocks, and shoals and it is stated to be 30 kilometers long. It is found exactly at the location narrated in Valmiki Ramayan. See NASA picture of this Bridge (Fig. 10).
It does not believe in Numbers, nor in Proselytism.
As a matter of fact, The Vedas do not mention collective worship at all.
Those who disseminate Knowledge did so, free of cost, after evaluating the student’s aptitude.
However a token was accepted, of the Teacher‘s choosing, from the students’ parents, either to make people understand that nothing must be gained free of cost or to test the skill-set and dedication of the Student.
Lord Krishna was asked to save Santipini’s son from a demon in the Ocean, as Guru dakshina.
By doing so, Lord Krishna acquired his famous Panchajanya.
Drona asked, nay punished Ekalaivya by asking for his Thumb, this is an exception, for this act his son Aswathama was cursed to roam as Chiranjeevi (ever living) in the forest.
Or the Gurus asked of their students to undertake a mission for the welfare of the Society.
But never they hankered after wealth for their efforts.
One must remember in the Vedic System of Life, the students were living with the Teacher in his household, partaking what was available;their parents, however rich were not permitted to offer anything.
Over a period of years the system of conveying the Vedic Thoughts, The Ithihasa, Ramayana, Mahabharata and others came into vogue.
When it started the preachers never accepted anything but were driven the noble thought of spreading the Good Word.
Over a period of time, this become an Industry where people , in the garb of disseminating knowledge have started making money and only money, with presenting facts that would suit the audience.
The system of negotiating Rates for Pravachana began.
Till some time back there was this habit of’ ‘taking the plate around’ among the audience to raise for some noble cause;later it degenerated into collecting money from the audience for the preacher!
Now with Media networks running wild to make quick buck by presenting miish mash of programmes called Religious, popular figures in the filed of preaching are called in.
What they do more is to advertise themselves, distort stories.Philosophy to suit TRP!
Nauseating is their naked lust for money and fame.
Worse is their treatment of people who attend their Pravachanas or Preaching, Kathas.
People come to their Pravachanas or Kathas to know more of the Subject.
They are treated with contempt,; the man does not even acknowledge you or at times if he inclined will tell you rudely’he has no time”
This applies all the Pravachanakarthas including Velukkudi Krishna who is the craze now.
He stares at you indifferently and keeps mum or looks at some body.
But hear his Pravachanas, you would believe he is embodiment of Knowledge, Wisdom,Eager to help people and, as irony would have it,Humble!
I recall Sri Kripanandavariar , great preacher asking people in the midst of a Lecture for their doubts and clearing them on the spot!
If one were to approach him later, he would patiently explain things till he was satisfied that you understood him!
Preachers of Hinduism, what you are doing is not Dharma and you are insulting Hinduism
Note.People might ask me why I have not said anything about Christian Preacher,..
Well…it is their profession sanctioned(?) by their Religion.
Nor I am saying anything about the self-styled Gurus, like Chandrasawmi,Baba Ramdev or the one who teaches the ‘Art of Living’ as if Hinduism teaches the ‘Science of Death!’
These guys should remember what would be their position that if Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharata,Yoga had Copyright and IPR!
One of the differences between the Avatars Rama and Lord Krishna(both being the Avatars of Vishnu) is that Lord Krishna was aware all the time He was the Avatar of Vishnu, while Lord Rama was not aware of it.
Excepting in one instance.
Lord Rama was facing Ravana in the Final battle in the penultimate day before the death of Ravana in the Battle field.
The battle was fierce and both Rama and Ravana were fighting each other fiercely.
Ravana was matching Rama arrow for arrow(Astra) and Castra(Divine Weapons).
Rama got weary and sent his Rama Bana, which can never return unconquered.
There is famous saying about Lord Rama in Telugu,
Oka Mata,Oka Bana, Oka Baarya’
One word, One Arrow, One Wife -That’s Sri Rama.
This Rama Bana went screaming at Ravana.
Ravana saw this and realized he could do nothing about it.
He remembered the Sathi Ayudha, given to him by his Grand Father, Lord Brahma, who told him thus,
“In battle field when everything fails for you, you us e this.
Nothing can stop it. It will destroy everything’
Ravana sends it across.
It meets up with the Rama Bana and goes past it towards Lord Rama.
Lord Rama was stunned.
He was helpless.
It was nearing his neck.
Pranava, coming from the Reality, shatters the Sakthi Ayudha.
Ravana recalls the second part of his Grand father‘s Boon,
‘ If and when this Sakthi Ayudha fails, understand thatwho is facing yoyu is Para Brahman‘
Ravana gets down from his chariot and prostrates before Lord Rama, saying,
‘ Now In Know You are The Brahman,
I can not win you,
Dying in Your hands will grant me Mukthi.
I can not surrender for people have died, including my brothers and son,s for Me.
I can not sully them’
.’Ravana, you are with out Arms to-day,
Go to-day and come forth prepared to morrow’
Following is the procedure for performing Sri Rama Navami Pooja.
For Sankalpam, please refer my blog on Sarasvati Pooja and make necessary changes-Kara nama Samvatsaram,Punarvasu,Ashtami/Navami)
Astothram. Click The Link below.
Birth Date of Lord Rama.
As for as The Ramayana goes, external evidence is provided in the Puranas(means ‘ very old’) , Eighteen in Number( in Sanskrit) and in regional Languages of India, be it Tamil,Telugu,Kannada, Malayalam,Hindi,Bengali,Oriya,other languages .
In addition Dialects of India have this spread through word of mouth.
Though the versions vary in embellishments, the basic fact that there was a King called Rama , he had been sent to forest with his wife called Sita by his father who wanted to appease his wife(not Rama’s mother),she was abducted by a Chieftain called Ravana of Sri Lanka and he was killed by Rama , never varies.(History of The Tamils by P.T.Srinivasa Iyengar)