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Manu’s Derogatory Remarks On Women Status

In Hinduism on March 12, 2014 at 17:24

I shared some of my posts on Vedas where I have quoted from the Vedic Texts how women were accorded the highest regards ,women were Great Rishis.

One of readers from Facebook  sent in a Link which  quotes Manu on Women.

They are derogatory to Women.

Or Are they?

Before let us know what Manu Smriti is about and who Manu is.

Manu is a name for one who lays down Social norms, de facto.

This Manu changes from time to Time.

There are different Manus for different Manvanntaras, a Period of Time devised by Hindus.

Las of Manu

Manu Smriti Book by Buhler

On Manu and Manvantaras please read my posts filed under Hinduism.

So Manu  Smriti is not a fixed standard text that was followed nor does it carry the force of the Vedas.

To quote a contemporary example, Manu Smriti is like the Directive Principles of State Policy, while the Vedas are akin to the Fundamental Rights enshrined in the Constitution of India.

While former need not be followed but only commendatory in nature , the latter has the force of Law and has to be followed.

In case of Conflict between the two, the Fundamental Rights will prevail.

So Vedas are like the Fundamental Rights and Manu Smriti, Directive principles of State Policy.

The major difference is that unlike the Fundamental Rights, Vedas can not be changed/amended.

As time changes, so are the customs and values.

Hence Manu Smriti also changes , depending on the Yuga.

What we now have as Manu Smriti , I am not sure is the one meant for Kali Yuga,

And The Manu Smriti reflects the Social Life.

Like the Films, the question of whether Society influences Life or the other way around, one is never sure.

With this back ground let us look at the quoted texts which are derogatory to women.

 

1.”Swabhav ev narinam …..” – 2/213. It is the nature of women to seduce men in this world; for that reason the wise are never unguarded in the company of females.”

I do not see anything derogatory here.

It is by  way of explanation of Nature.

Being a Seductress is not repulsive, it becomes dangerous when one falls for it. without thinking of the consequences to himself and family.

By implication it is the nature of Men to go after women,

True, but we do not admit it.

“Avidvam samlam………..” – 2/214. Women, true to their class character, are capable of leading astray men in this world, not only a fool but even a learned and wise man. Both become slaves of desire.”

This follows the earlier one and this is a fact;we may not like the fact.

Some times we refuse to accept Nature, when explained.

We may not like Gravity,but it is.

Truth need not be palatable.

Look at the Empires that have Crashed,Misery befallen ,from Ramayana to French/Russian Revolution.

Dasaratha was a wise King,Draupadi was born in Fire ,yet one’s one moment of weak will sent Lord Rama to forest and another ensured Mahabharata war.

What Bloody Mary did and the Tsarina had for Rasputin History knows.

Expressing the consequences arising out of nature is not to defame.

3.Matra swastra ………..” – 2/215. Wise people should avoid sitting alone with one’s mother, daughter or sister. Since carnal desire is always strong, it can lead to temptation.

This actually insults Men, nothing is said of women here,

And it is also a sordid fact which none seems to acknowledge is the amount of Incest that goes on.

Other Smritis also say that after the Age of ten , a Girl must not sleep in the same bed with her father,brother.

Hinduism knows Human instincts and goes by it, not by misplaced ideological non sense.

Essentially we are animals by Instinct.

One has to evolve by practice.

This verse is by way of caution and I see nothing wrong in it.

Why should women object to this?

It is for their safety and welfare.

Read under ‘interesting and funny’ in my blog.

4.Naudwahay……………..” – 3/8. One should not marry women who has/ had reddish hair, redundant  parts of the body [such as six fingers], one who is often sick, one without hair or having excessive hair and one who has red eyes.

This seems to be a correlation arrived at(may be true or untrue) between Physiognomy and Behavior.

Manu Smriti says of Men that a woman should not marry a Angaheena physically challenged,one who has deserted his wife/Family,has disease.

This is not an insult, is an advice.

5.Nraksh vraksh ………..” – 3/9. One should not marry women whose names are similar to constellations,  trees, rivers, those from a low-caste, mountains, birds, snakes, slaves or those whose names inspires terror.

This reflects the belief of the times.

For example every Nakshatra has some or other  stigma attached to it.

Chithrai Appan Theruvile-parents of children born in Chithra Nakshatra shall be on the streets, deserted by their children.

Is it?

No. It is a belief the people had.

6.Yasto na bhavet ….. …..” – 3/10. Wise men should not marry women who do not have a brother and whose parents are not socially well-known.

What is wrong in this?

Even to-day we check the family background before getting married.

The point about Brother is that one who s born with a Brother knows to deal with a Man better than the one with out a sibling.

This is a fact.

There are 40 quotes on the site,

As the blog is getting lengthy, I shall post in the next Post/s.

Citation.

http://nirmukta.com/2011/08/27/the-status-of-women-as-depicted-by-manu-in-the-manusmriti/

Thank you Mr.Sridhar Aiyangar.

 

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Ramayana Mahabharata Dynasties From Manu

In Hinduism, History on August 31, 2013 at 23:04

I have posted on Lord Rama‘s Date of birth,Travels,His Death, Krishna‘s Dwarka,Date of Ramayana, Mahabharata,Bhagavad Gita,Rig Veda,Rama’s Ancestors,Kauravas Names.

Please find them under Hinduism/History.

For easy reference I am providing  Flow charts from http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com on The Ikshwagu Dynasty) of Lord Rama,and Manu, based on Hindu Puranas.

Click on the Image to enlarge.

The Ikshvaku Dynasty.

The Ikshvaku Dynasty.

Dynasties since the beginning of Time.

Dynasties since the beginning of Time.

Source: http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/

Is The Present ‘Manusmrti’ Meant for Us Manu Facts

In Astrophysics, Hinduism on December 31, 2012 at 13:01

Manu is the son of Brahma.

Time, Hindu Concept.

Hindu Concept of Time.

One Manu rules one Manvantara.

There are 14 Manus, each ruling one Manvantara.

One Manvantara lasts  (’431,8000 *  4(one Cycle of Chatur Yuga)   =   17,27 2000 Years *71 Cycles )= 1226312000 Years.

We are in the Swetavaraha Kalpa.

The Name of the Manu for this Svetavaraha kalpa is  Vaivasvata and The Manvantara is Vaivasvatham.

The Manusmriti we talk abut,  one is not sure, belongs to this Vaivasvata Manu.

Or  are we talking about the first Manu, Swayam bhuba Manu’s Rules?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga#Durations_of_four_yugas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara

The information in the Internet is not clear

Will some one clarify?

Names of Manus.

Related.

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/time-non-linear-3-hinduism-explains-how/

Manvantara № Name of Manu for manvantara: Manvantara-avatara name:
01 Svayambhuva Manu Yajna
02 Svarocisha Manu Vibhu
03 Uttama Manu Satyasena
04 Tamasa Manu Hari
05 Raivata Manu Vaikuntha
06 Cakshusha Manu Ajita
07 Vaivasvata Manu (current) Vamana
08 Savarni Manu Sarvabhauma
09 Daksha-savarni Manu Rishabha
10 Brahma-savarni Manu Vishvaksena
11 Dharma-savarni Manu Dharmasetu
12 Rudra-savarni Manu Sudhama
13 Deva-savarni Manu Yogesvara
14 Indra-savarni Manu Brihadbhanu

Above are the names of the Fourteen Manus.

Source;Vishnu Purana.

Time Non Linear-3 Hinduism Explains How

In Astrophysics, Time on October 16, 2012 at 20:30

The reason for this situation is the assumption that Time is Linear.

 

Time flows in one direction that is forward.
What if Time is Cyclic?

 

That is, it flows around and depending on where you are.

 

Time moves both forwards and backwards .

 

Time is a stream; so is Space. Per se they are Absolute.

 

They are Relative to the observer.

 

To put it in simpler words ,things exist in Space and Time at all times irrespective of your positioning and what we say to day has happened ,is right now happening at another level for an observer positioned to observe it.

 

For them, our Universe is Past.

 

Similarly for another observer, what we see as future, may be Present.

 

Indian Concept of Time.

 

Hinduism advocates Cyclic Theory of Time.

 

Vedic_Time.png.

Time, Indian Perspective.

TIME- Calculation in Hindu Philosophy.

3.2 seconds- 1 Kaashtai.

30 Kaashtais or 1.6 minutes or 96 seconds -1 Kalai

30 kalais or 48 minutes – 1 Muhurtham

30 Muhurthams or 1440 minutes one day.24 hrs of western time)

15 Days -one Paksha

2 Paksas – one Month

6 Months -one Ayanam

2 Ayanams -one Year)

There are Four AEONS (yugas).-In terms of Man-Years.

I. Kali Yugam 4, 32,000 years.

II. Dwapara Yuga 8, 64,000years. (Kali x 2)

III. Tretha Yuga 12, 96,000 years. (Kali x 3)

IV. Krita Yuga 17, 28,000 years. (Kali x 4)

V. Total 43, 32,000 years

For Devas, in the next plane of existence, one year by human calculation is one day.

 

On this basis they have 43, 32,000 years as one chatur yuga or Aeon (By their account 12033 years approximately).

 

They live for 12033 years. At the end of the day Brahma effects Dissolution.
Next Level. Brahma, the Creator
30917370000000 one Life of hundred years).
*43, 32,000 human years is one day for Brahma.

During the day, 14 Manus reign, under the orders of Brahma

.Each Manu reigns for 30, 67, 20,000 Human Years.
30, 67, 20,000 multiplied by 14, is *42 940 80 000 human years is Brahma’s one day. (The difference is due to Sandhyaa and Sandhyaamsa calculated for Deva years).

 

The universe is dissolved at the end of each day.

 

Creation begins the next day.

 

Brahma reigns for 100 Brahma years or 30917370000000 of human years (For the Creator, there shall be Dissolution at the end of each of his day.

 

At Night there shall be withdrawn.Next Day starts.)

 
That is 0 .53 light years. This is for Universe of Matter of one fourteenth of the Universe of matter (14 Lokaas). Matter occupies only 0.1% of entire Universe. Balance of 99.9 % of Universe consists of Anti matter (named now as dark Energy).

The Universe of Antimatter has corresponding Time scale .It contains anti matter.

 

At the time of Final Dissolution, matter and antimatter collide and Entire Universe becomes dormant to become dynamic again. Matter and Antimatter forming the Universe is said to be contained in the SriChakra of Devi.

 

The Gods mentioned so far are nominees assigned for a specific purpose and they undergo evolution and dissolution.

 

The individual Gods are embodiments of Principles of Creation, Sustenance and Dissolution.

 

They are Principles and are given Name and Form to help one to realize the Ultimate Reality.
This Cycle is for fourteen known levels of existence and all of them exist simultaneously.

 

That means all activities happen simultaneously.

 

That is to say, Ramayana happened somewhere and is also happening and will happen in future. (With reference to us).
We can see Time is Nonlinear and is Cyclic.

 

 

 

Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara

 

Related:

 

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‘Sankalpam’, Text Meaning , Hindu Way Of Geotagging, Praying.

In Bhakti, Hinduism on October 16, 2012 at 17:08

Every Hindu, while praying or performing a religious rite is reciting a Mantra.

This is done at the beginning after worshipping and getting the blessings of Lord Ganesha /Ganapathi.

Over a period of Time people have doing  it by rote with out being aware of the meaning, thinking it is something mystical and at times ridiculing it as nonsense.

The Sankalpa or Clear Resolution is a scientifically devised mode to pinpoint a location in the Universe and the individual with reference to it( as there are many worlds existing simultaneously at the same time) who is seeking the Blessings of The Lord.

Sankalpa is Clear resolution as Resolutions  are normally meant to be broken as in New Year Resolutions.

However, one is not expected to be flippant while seeking Guidance from The Almighty.

The Mind should be made up as to what we really want.

More often than not , at the time of Praying we get confused and vacillate what to ask for.

One should be clear.

Else ,one should make a general wish…

‘Sarve Janas Sukino Bhavantu’May All be Happy’

or slightly more specific

‘Sree Varchasvam Ayushyam Aarogyam Ma Vidhaa Chobhaa maanam Maheyante,

Dhaanyam Dhanam, Pasum, bahu Puthra Laabham ,

Satha Samvathsaram,

Dheergamaayuhu’

(May I Be granted (enveloped by)Wealth,Long Life,Health,Enough Food,Possessions, Good Children, 120 years of Life and Longevity _The Life , mentioned at first indicates the quality of Life,Second number of Years, and the third the years granted to a Man in this Kali Yuga)

When we want specific results, we need to be specific and  we are to indicate where we are from not- that God does not Know you, this is form of address one has to follow and it is organised systematically).

Thought have a way of influencing events(read my blog ‘Thoughts change Events Proved-Data)

The Full Sankalpa Text.

Aadhya Brahmanah,

Dwdheeya Paraarthe,

Swetha Varaha Kalpe,

Vaivaswatha Manvantare,

Astavikum Sathi tha me.

Kali Yuge,

Pradhame padhe.

Jambooth Dweepe,

Bharata Varshe,

Bharata Kande,

Merooh,

Dakshine parsve for those south of India) Sahapthe,

Asmin,

Varthamane,

Vyavahaarike,

Prabhavaathi,

Shasti Savastharaanam,

Madhye …….(name of the year) nama samvathsare

Dakshinaayane /Uttarayane(movement of the SUN to Cancer to Capricorn),

…….(Name of the season among the six seasons), Ritau,

…..(Name of The Month),

…….pakshe(indicate the Waxing and Waning of the Moon)

Punya Thithou,

…..(mention the Day) ”Vaasara  Yukthaayaam

…mention the Nakshatra/Star Yukthaayaam.

Asmaakam Saha Kudumbaanaam,

Kshema, Dhairya,, Veerya, Vijaya, Ayur, Arogya, Aiswarya Naam,Dharma ,Artha, Kama, Moksha,

Chatur vith pala purushaartyartham,

..mention Gotra(your lineage ( there will be three in number-this is called ‘Pravaram- the details are posted separaetely)

..mention you christened Name”

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Hindu Measurement of Time.

Upto ‘Pradhamme Paadhe’ reference is made to Time.

Next Space,Then it is followed by the Individual’s Identity.

What a Way of Time and Geo tagging!

Explanation.

Adhya Brahmanh-from the year of Brahma

Dweetheeya Paraarthe- second part of the Life of Brahma-Brahma has a Lifespan of 100 years, though not Man years-it is called Para;half of it is called Paraartha.

Swetha Varaha Kalpe, Vaivasvata Manvantare -in the Brahma Kalpa and in the manvantara of Vaivasvata Manu.

This needs a detailed explanation.

Please refer Wiki and my blog Time-Cyclic Theory for further details.

However a short description from Wiki below.

Kalpa is a Sanskrit word (कल्प kalpa) meaning an aeon, or a relatively long period of time (by human calculation) in Hindu and Buddhist cosmology. The concept is first mentioned in the Mahabharata. The definition of a kalpa equalling 4.32 billion years is found in the Puranas (specifically Vishnu Purana and Bhagavata Purana).

Manvantara , or age of a Manu , the Hindu progenitor of mankind, is an astronomical period of time measurement. Manvantara is a Sanskritsandhi, a combination of words manu and antara, manu-antara or manvantara, literally meaning the duration of a Manu, or his life span .

Each Manvantara is created and ruled by a specific Manu, who in turn is created by Brahma, the Creator himself. Manu creates the world, and all its species during that period of time, each Manvantara lasts the lifetime of a Manu, upon whose death, Brahma creates another Manu to continue the cycle of Creation or Shristi,Vishnu on his part takes a new Avatar, and also a new Indra and Saptarishis are appointed.

Eventually it takes 14 Manus and their respective Manvantaras to create a KalpaAeon, or a ‘Day of Brahma’, according to the Hindu Time Cycles and also theVedic timeline. Thereafter, at the end of each Kalpa, there is a period – same as Kalpa – of dissolution or Pralaya , wherein the world (earth and all life forms, but not the entire universe itself) is destroyed and lies in a state of rest, which is called the, ‘Night of Brahma’.

After that the creator, Brahma starts his cycle of creation all over again, in an endless cycle of creation followed by Destruction for which Shiva, Hindu God of destruction, and also renewal, is invoked towards the end of each such cycle

Manvantara № Name of Manu for manvantara: Manvantara-avatara name:
01 Svayambhuva Manu Yajna
02 Svarocisha Manu Vibhu
03 Uttama Manu Satyasena
04 Tamasa Manu Hari
05 Raivata Manu Vaikuntha
06 Cakshusha Manu Ajita
07 Vaivasvata Manu (current) Vamana
08 Savarni Manu Sarvabhauma
09 Daksha-savarni Manu Rishabha
10 Brahma-savarni Manu Vishvaksena
11 Dharma-savarni Manu Dharmasetu
12 Rudra-savarni Manu Sudhama
13 Deva-savarni Manu Yogesvara
14 Indra-savarni Manu Brihadbhanu

Ibid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_(aeon)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara#Manus_of_the_.C5.9Aveta_V.C4.81r.C4.81ha_Kalpa

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