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Vishnu With Four Heads

In Hinduism on October 20, 2014 at 18:27

Lord Vishnu ,from the Vedic stand point, is a form of Narayana,who is a manifestation of Purusha.

 

Vishnu is the Protector, the word Vishnu is from the Sanskrit word ‘Jishnu’, that which sustains.

 

His forms are many ,so are His Avatars, numbering 10/12.

 

Vishnu with FourHeads.jpg

Chaturmurthi.

The Vishnu Sahasranama calls Him as,

 

 

 

 

‘Chaturmurthi,Chatur  Bahu’, Chatur Vyuha, Chatur Gathi ‘four headed, with four arms, four manifestations, and four Goals.

 

I was curious to find out the reference as one normally sees Vishnu with One head and Four arms.

 

The first reference of  Vishnu with Head appears in the Mahabharata.

 

Though I am unable to locate any temple associated with this form., there are Temples in Kashmir with this Icon.

 

If there is any temple or the Icon is known to some people, please send in the information.

 

The Four Heads represent ,

 

Vaikuntanatha,Center,

 

Narasimha,

 

Varaha, the Boar Avatar,

 

and Kapila ,representing Ferociousness or Asura Bhava.

 

This is one interpretation.

 

My view is that as Sage Kapila, the Founder of Samkhya System of Indian Philosophy, is an Avatar of Vishnu, the fourth face may represent him.

 

Pancharatra system explains thus,

 

Vasudeva (Krishna), Samkarshana (Balarama), Pradyumna and Aniruddha – four vyuhas (manifestations) of Vishnu.

 

Citation.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaikuntha_Chaturmurti

 

 

 

Are The Vedas Obscene

In Hinduism on October 16, 2014 at 09:29

I have come across an article which claims to have analyzed the Vedas in-depth, with quotes and translations from eminent persons like Swami Dayananda Sarasvati,concluding  that the Vedas are Obscene.

 

 

I have published an article on whether Rama’s Mother Kausalya indulged in Horse sex and orgy.

 

Although all three of King Dasaratha’s wives were united with the carcass of the horse, Rama’s mom Kausalya was the one who had the honor of spending a whole night with the dead animal’s genitals plugged in her vagina: “

 

Another on the observation that the Vedas contain and promote Incest.

 

‘Swami Dayanand Saraswati, in his book Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika on the authority of Rigved 1/164/33, uses immoral language to convey the working of the natural phenomenon. You can yourself assess the cheap nature of this allegory, which promotes and glorifies incest”

 

Links are provided towards the close of the Post and you may read my rebuttals.

 

Now to the conclusion that the Vedas are obscene.

 

1.One should study the Vedas in its entirety.

 

The Vedas are not Books that are compiled to promote a particular group nor are they founded by some one who visits Heaven in a Horse, reads the Laws of God written in a Stone(as if God can not remember His own Laws) and reveals(?) after  some time (possibly for recollection).

 

The Vedas are grasped from the Ether by various people of various dispositions and were transmitted through word of mouth.

 

Unlike some Religions, Hinduism, does not believe in numbers nor does it proclaim that  those who do not  subscribe to it are Infidels,Heathen, nor does it consign them to Hell.

Information as experienced, as distinct from  being learned, were compiled later by Vyasa for People to refer and follow, if they so desire.

 

2.The Vedas need 36 years of study or at least seven years to understand.

 

3.The core teaching has to be grasped, that of,

 

Reality being a Principle,

 

That It has No name and Form,

 

That the Deavatas and the Timurthis, Brahma, Vishnu ans Rudra are prone to emotions and they pay for their actions.

 

Especially the Deavatas like Indra , Varuna, Agni, Vayu and others are only a slightly more evolved Beings than Man:they undergo the trails and tribulations as we Humans go through because of our desires.

 

3.Some of the passages quoted in the article are allegorical and they do not promote obscenity.

 

4.To understand the Vedas , one must know that Vedas, at the Highest level do not subscribe to the concept of Sin at all.

 

It says that the so-called Sins are the result of Human Nature nd warns people to stay away if they want to develop spiritually.

 

Sanctions are imposed by the Smritis and not by the Sruthi(Vedas)

 

Later The Ithihasas, Ramayana,  Mahabharata and the Puranas express this idea from real life and expose the perils of such desires.

 

But this concept needs maturity to understand.

 

In the hands of the immature this would promote personal degradation and social instability.

 

5.And one must understand that The Puranas,and the Vedas are facts and they reveal what is the Truth, even if it be unpalatable and by our human standards sinful.

 

Facts, in the view of Hinduism, are facts, even if the perpetrators are Gods themselves.

 

It may be Indra when he forcefully enjoyed Ahalya,Lord Rama when He killed Vaali by hiding behind a tree or Lord Krishna’s son who ridiculed Sages.

 

Rig Veda 10.110.5 Spacious doors remain wide open like beautiful wives for their husbands. O divine doors, great and all-impellers, be easy of access to the gods.Capture1

 

Yaska Acharya explains this verse as

Nirukta 8.10 ”Having spaciousness, make yourself wide open as exceedingly beautiful wives do their thighs for their husbands in sexual intercourse. The thighs are the most beautiful parts (of the body)…”

 

The next verse is even more obscene,

 

‘‘Just as a wife, the recipient of semen, at the time of cohabitation keeps her head opposite to the head of the husband, and her face opposite to that of his, so should both husband and wife perform together their domestic duties. A husband is a protector like a physician. He lives happily like a child, and with tranquillity produces progeny with penis keen with ardour.”- Yajur Veda 19.88, Tr. Devi Chand (Arya Samaj), p.215.

 

What is obscene  in describing the actual sex position?

 

Hinduism does nor  abhor sex for it knows it is Natural

 

As to the first portion of this quote, it is a simile .

 

“We read in newspaper about some Hindu scholars condemning homosexuality. But do they have any evidence that prohibits homosexuality in Hinduism? Hindu scholars fail to furnish any reference which condemns homosexuality but still some try to term homosexuality as irreligious act. Fortunately there are some Hindu scholars like Shri Shri Ravishankar who honestly accept such facts, below are two snapshots of his tweets

 

True.

 

Hinduism accepts LGBT.

 

What is wrong in it?

 

Please read my post on this.

 

Animal Sex.

Some protestant Hindus proudly promote Vedas as philosophical, free from all vulgarities. But in reality there is no limit for Vulgarity in Vedas. It even promotes sex with animals let alone adultery and pornography. Sex with animals in Hinduism is not a vulgar thing, Ancient Hindu temples like Khajuraho, Ajanta, Ellora clearly depicts men and girls having sex with animals.

 

”As a buffalo (Indra) desired the lusty female born from himself; the mena of the horse he made into the mother of the cow”- Rig Veda 1.121.2, Tr. Geldner.

 

Maharshi Yaska mentions a strange story about the birth of Asvins (the twin horsemen). The story says Saranyu was unwilling to have sex with Vivasvat and ran away but Vivasvat chased her and raped her. Yaska writes,

 

”Saranyu daughter of Tvastr bore twins, Yama and Yami, to Vivasvat the sun. She having substituted another lady of similar appearance, and having assumed the shape of a mare, ran away. He, Vivasvat, the sun, having also assumed the shape of a horse, pursued her, and joined her. Thence the Asvins were born. Manu was born from the lady of similar appearance.” Nirukta 12.10

 

In all these cases the perversions of Human Nature are exposed.

 

They are not promoted.

 

In these cases the individual has sex with the animals after assuming the form of the animal, there is no Human animal sex here.

 

The articles other points merit)?) the same rebuttal.

 

I forgot to add that some of the meanings are by western scholars(?) to malign Hinduism and promote Christianity.

 

Citation.

http://truthabouthinduism.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/there-is-indeed-obscenity-in-vedas/

 

Related.

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/kausalya/

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/incest-in-the-vedas/

 

 

No Pitru Paksha for Sri Vaishnavas?

In Hinduism on September 22, 2014 at 12:04

A close friend of mine, a Sri Vaishnava told me that he does not perform the Mahalaya Paksha Tharpana.

 

He informed me that , as an Iyengar belonging to Thengalai Sampradya, he does not do it as it is prohibited by Ramanucharya.

 

He told me that the other sect of Iyengars in Tamil Nadu, Vadagalai Iyengars perform the Pitru Paksha Tharpana.

 

 

As I am unable to find any authentic source on this, I am posting my views.

 

Those who know the subject well may quote with source.

 

In Hinduism there are two paths in terms of Lifestyle.

 

One is called Pravritti Marga and another Nivrutti Marga.

 

Pravrutti Marga is the leading of our daily lives , as normally do, by going after the sense objects.

 

Nivrutti Marga is renunciation of the sense objects.

 

Hinduism teaches how to live,taking into account the limitations and the frailties of Human Life including the desire to go after sensory objects for pleasure.

 

So Hinduism has devised the four stages of Life.

 

Brahmacharya, the young Celibate.

 

Gruhastha when one gets married begets children and goes about Life.

 

Vanaprastha,when one, after the son becomes capable managing the Family leaving the Family, either with or without wife to seek Reality either in the Forest or staying at Home in a detached way.

 

My friend quoted Visishtadvaita to support his view that one need not perform the Karmas,excepting Sandhyavanadan and Amavasya Tharpana as Sri Vaishnavism gives priority to surrender to Lord Visnu and once one surrenders himself to God, one need not, should not perform Karma , including Pitru Paksha Tharpana.

 

He quoted the Sloka form the Bhagavad Gita, this is also called the Karna Mantra,,

 

Sarva Dharma Parijyasya Maameka Charanam Vraja,

 

Aham Thva Sarva Paapepyp0Mokshayisyami Maa sucha. Chapter 18

 

Leave all actions, and surrender only to Me.

 

I shall absolve you of all your sins and grant you Moksha’

 

I think my friend does not seem to have understood Krishna and this sloka is often misunderstood.

 

What Krishna says is that he shall grant Moksha and one need not perform any action(Karma)  id one surrenders to Krishna.

 

The surrender , Krishna means a surrender  is not a lip service but one of total Surrender,mind ,words and deeds.

 

By merely saying one has surrendered to Krishna does not mean total surrender.

 

Draupadi who is a cousin of Krishna and an ardent devotee had to throw her arms up and pray Lord Krishna when Dhuchashana was stripping her.

 

Krishna did not pay heed to her earlier entreaties to save her when she held her hands to her saree: only when she devoid of Ego , called out, did Krishna rescue her modesty.

 

Such a devotion is very difficult to come by.

 

It needs years of practice ,Abhyasa and determination(vairagya)

 

This, I think we posses at least I do not.

 

So the statement , presumably said by Ramanucharya, that one need not perform Karmas if one surrenders to Vishnu, is meant for evolved souls;such loved souls like Ramadasas,Ramakrishna Paramahamsa may and can follow this as they had lost Dehatma Buddhi, the attachment to Body.

 

We can not compare ourselves to these souls.

 

Again, wile talking about Renunciation, Krishna says  in the Bhagavad Gita, those who call the,selves Sanyasis , while their Minds are after sense objects, may appear so outwardly. are only Aashaadaboothis(hypocrisy)

 

The determination to relinquish the fruits of action even at the mental level while performing the action is called renunciation.

 

With such a mindset one can even be in family Life, like Janaka, father of Sita.

 

Therefore the non-performance of Pitru Pksha , quoting some Acharya is contrary to Vedas and as such is incorrect as Pitru Yagnya is one of the most important and mandatory Yagnya for every one.

 

Decisions Are They Rational Emotional

In lifestyle on September 9, 2014 at 18:05

With so much talk about Decision Making and specialists (?) who advise and conduct seminars , I though about this a bit.

 

 

An infant looks to its Mother for any support.

 

Infants just follow you right from stepping aside to walking, eating.

 

It decides to follow some of your mannerism(those with whom it spends most of its time).

 

Till some time.

 

One falls in Love.

 

And one does not like somebody.

 

One likes some things in Life, be it food or dress.

 

We take decisions , in these cases without knowing the reasons.

 

Most of the time in Life we react, are not proactive.

 

We become proactive when we are not personally involved.

 

When there are multiple choices available for a problem, most of the time, we are aware of only some alternatives, not all of them.

 

That is why the persons who speak about decision-making state carefully  one should take decisions with the available data.

 

The fact that the choice themselves are limited ensures that the decisions you  take are not totally free.

 

Please read my post ‘Choice’

 

There is this aspect of gut instinct.

 

Decision based on this normally does not disappoint you.

 

How and Why?

 

I have noticed decision-making in personal lives.

 

You like to buy a car, love a girl or Boy,want to go abroad.

 

 

In the last one,here is some deliberation.

 

In all others, you have already decided to your course of action.

 

But you want to justify it , to others as much as to yourself.

 

Reasoning, to me seems to be, an explanation not the Cause.

 

Lord Krishna explains this Gunathraya Vibhagayoga in Bhagavad Gita Chapter 14.

 

On hind sight I wish I could have taken them.

The cost?

I do not know.

But what forced me to choose one in place of another, may be circumstances, but still?

I had chosen what I thought I liked.

In retrospect, I find it could have been otherwise.

May be after couple of years  or even a days later I might find my present choice mentioned here are incorrect!”

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/choices-and-life/

 

Balarama Worships Muruga In South Visits Pandyas

In Hinduism on September 3, 2014 at 18:11

Here is yet another proof that the South was a part of Sanatana Dharma, Aryan Dravidian Theory is a myth and the people of North India and South India were a part of the Glorious Bharatavarsha.

 

Rama’s marriage was  graced by the Kings of South India.

 

 

Damayanti’s Swayamwara had Tamil Kings presence.

 

Lord Krishna married a Pandya Princess.

 

Arjuna went on a pilgrimage to South and married a Pandya princess.

 

Chola and Pandya Kings fought on the side of Pandavas in The Mahabharata War.

 

Chera King fed both the Kaurava and Pandava armies and performed Sraddha , Obsequies for those killed in the war.

 

The Vedas mention Lord Muruga as Skanda.

 

Lord Balarama on a Pilgrimage to South met and worshiped Murugan in Mahendragiri, now in Tirunelveli Disrict.(This Mahendragiri is a different one from the one from in Odisha.

 

He also met Parashurama there.

 

It may be note that Parashurama was born in Treta Youga and was elder to Lord Rama and a Chiranjeevi, Immortal.

 

Balarama also met Sage Agastya, visited Kanyakumari

 

and worshiped Durga.

 

The place he visited Muruga is Valliyur, 30 km from Tirunelveli,Tamil Nadu.

 

Sri Balarama’s pilgrimage (Mahabharata 9 – Shalya Parva)

“Then, given leave by the sages, the Lord went with a contingent of brahmanas to the Kausiki River, where He bathed. From there He went to the lake from which flows the river Sarayu.

“The Lord followed the course of the Sarayu until He came to Prayaga, where He bathed and then performed rituals to propitiate the demigods and other living beings. Next He went to the asrama of Pulaha Rsi. [also known as Hari-ksetra]

“Lord Balarama bathed in the Gomati, Gandaki and Vipasa rivers, and also immersed Himself in the Sona. He went to Gaya, where He worshiped His forefathers, and to the mouth of the Ganges, where He performed purifying ablutions. At Mount Mahendra He saw Lord Parasurama and offered Him prayers, and then He bathed in the seven branches of the Godavari River, and also in the rivers Vena, Pampa and Bhimarathi. Then Lord Balarama met Lord Skanda and visited Sri Saila, the abode of Lord Girisa. In the southern provinces known as Dravida-desa the Supreme Lord saw the sacred Venkata Hill, as well as the cities of Kamakosni and Kanci, the exalted Kaveri River and the most holy Sri-ranga, where Lord Krsna has manifested Himself. From there He went to Rsabha Mountain, where Lord Krsna also lives, and to the southern Mathura. Then He came to Setubandha, where the most grievous sins are destroyed.

“There at Setubandha (Ramesvaram) Lord Halayudha gave brahmanas ten thousand cows in charity. He then visited the Krtamala and Tamraparni rivers and the great Malaya Mountains. In the Malaya range Lord Balarama found Agastya Rsi sitting in meditation. After bowing down to the sage, the Lord offered him prayers and then received blessings from him. Taking leave from Agastya, He proceeded to the shore of the southern ocean, where He saw Goddess Durga in her form of Kanya-kumari.

“Next He went to Phalguna-tirtha and bathed in the sacred Pancapsara Lake, where Lord Visnu had directly manifested Himself. At this place He gave away another ten thousand cows.

“The Supreme Lord then traveled through the kingdoms of Kerala and Trigarta, visiting Lord Siva’s sacred city of Gokarna, where Lord Dhurjati (Siva) directly manifests himself. After also visiting Goddess Parvati, who dwells on an island, Lord Balarama went to the holy district of Surparaka and bathed in the Tapi, Payosni and Nirvindhya rivers. He next entered the Dandaka forest and went to the river Reva, along which the city of Mahismati is found. Then He bathed at Manu-tirtha and finally returned to Prabhasa.” (SB 10.79.9-21)

 

Citation.

 

Bhagavatham.

 

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