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Sanatana Dharma Tamil Sangam Literature Valmiki

In Hinduism, Tamils on September 4, 2014 at 00:47

That Sanatana Dharma was practiced in the South is indisputable.



The truth got muddled by the British to divide the country so that they might rule over the Bharatavarsha.



Unlike the other Nations they conquered,they found it difficult to make a headway in subjugating the people and spread Christianity.


The stumbling block?


Sanatana Dharma and its strong rooted Culture.


So strong was this, Lord Macaulay, in his speech in the British Parliament, while stressing the necessity of making English as The Language of India, said,


“If we want to rule India, it is possible only with the introduction English in India.


And  it is necessary to make the Hindus lose their respect for their religion and culture, which is  so deep-rooted that it does not allow other cultures to permeate.


Destroy their pride  in their cultural values and religion.


And this is possible only with the introduction English in India.”


The quote is not verbatim, but the essence.Readers may refer Macaulay’s’ speech in the web.


That  they have achieved it 100 %, through the good offices of self-styled Indian Anglophiles later.


We do have them even today among us under the garb of Liberals and Intelligentsia.


The illegitimate offspring of the British, the Justice party of Tamil Nadu and their successors the DK and DMK still sing the song of separate Tamil Race, Identity, fueled by the devious Max Mueller and earlier Missionaries under the Garb of Tamil Scholars.

I have posts on this.


Their concocted Aryan Invasion theory has been debunked for quite some time now.


I have posted articles that Rama’s ancestor Satyavrata Manu was in Dravida Desa and migrated to Ayodhya to establish the Ayodhya Kingdom.


More evidence has been provided in this site.


There is something more.


Ancient Tamil Sangam Poets had Sanskrit names and in some cases they have Tamilicized it.


Agastya  is  the founder of Tamil from Lord Shiva.


He wrote the first Grammar of Tamil, Agathiyam.


Tholkappiyar wrote another ancient grammar in Tamil.


The name Tholkapiyar is the Tamil version of Adi Kavi, which is the name to Vallmiki who composed the Ramayana.


And there are 358 verses in the Purananuru a Sangam literature, written by Vanmikar(Valmiki?)


And one finds the name Valmiki in many a temple in Tail Nadu.


Sanskrit names in Tamil Literature, Poets.


Damodaran, Kesavan, Vishnu Dasan (Vinnanthayan), Kamakshi (Kamak Kanni), Maha Devan (Maathevanar), Kausika (Kosikan), Kapila (very pouplar Rishi’s name), Parana (Parana is a Gotra name),Nagaraja (Mudinaagaraayar),Maha Sastha (Maasaaththan), Lochana(ulochanar), Bhutapandya, Krishna (Kannan), Arudra (Aththirai), Kumara (kumaranar), Gauthama (Gothamanar), Sanga Varunan, Rudra (Nalluruththiranar), Nagas (at least 20 names with Naga as surname)Brahma (piramanar), Brahma Dutt ( Yaz piramathaththan), Uthra (Uththiraiyar), Maha Chitra (perumsiththiranar), Maha Padma (perumpathumanar), Atreya, Kavya (kappiynaar) Yagna Acharya (Velaasaan), Beri Sastha.


Tamil kings performed Rajasuya, Asvamedha and Soamyaga (Avvaiyar attended the Rajasuya Yagna and praised the Tamil unity which was very rare. Kalidasa praised Pandyan king’s (probably Mudukudumi Peru Vazuthi’s ) Asvamedha Yangna indirectly by referring to Avabrudha Snana. Peruvazuthi coins have been discovered with Yupa pillar and horse/Asva.”



Vanmikam in Sanskrit means ant hill. This robber turned saint did penance for a long time and ant hill grew over him and he got the name Valmiki. His original name was Prachedas. We have this name associated with several saints with the same experience of long penance and ants building a hill over them. Gods in several Shiva temples had his name in Tamil Nadu. Vanmeekanathar is found in Tiruvarur, Sankarankoil, Kudavasal, Kancheepuram, Thiruvetriyur and Valmiki Samadhi (grave) in Ettukkudi. Every temple had its own story of that particular Valmiki. Slowly priests and tourist guides or Sthala Puranas (Local Temple History) identified them with the most famous Valmiki.


Valmiki seems to be a Gothra, like Kasyapa, Bharatwaja.


The following note was copied by me on 5th May 2002 from the book ‘’Retrieval of History from Puranic Myths’’ by P.L.Bhargava (available at SOAS Library, University of London):

“Pravaradhyaya of the ancient Baudhayana Srauta Sutra (800 to 400 BC) mentions Valmiki as a Gotra in the Vatsa Paksha of the family of Bhrgu. This name thus could be borne by other persons of this gotra and this is proved by the fact that we learn from the Taitriya Pratisakhya of a Phoenician Valmiki who was different from the famous poet Valmiki.’’


More to follow on this topic.


I am handicapped by my ignorance of other Indian Languages.


Readers may send in their information on this subject, from their languages, which I am sure must exist in them.




Valmki Image.http://www.desicomments.com/desi/valmiki-jayanti/




Balarama Worships Muruga In South Visits Pandyas

In Hinduism on September 3, 2014 at 18:11

Here is yet another proof that the South was a part of Sanatana Dharma, Aryan Dravidian Theory is a myth and the people of North India and South India were a part of the Glorious Bharatavarsha.


Rama’s marriage was  graced by the Kings of South India.



Damayanti’s Swayamwara had Tamil Kings presence.


Lord Krishna married a Pandya Princess.


Arjuna went on a pilgrimage to South and married a Pandya princess.


Chola and Pandya Kings fought on the side of Pandavas in The Mahabharata War.


Chera King fed both the Kaurava and Pandava armies and performed Sraddha , Obsequies for those killed in the war.


The Vedas mention Lord Muruga as Skanda.


Lord Balarama on a Pilgrimage to South met and worshiped Murugan in Mahendragiri, now in Tirunelveli Disrict.(This Mahendragiri is a different one from the one from in Odisha.


He also met Parashurama there.


It may be note that Parashurama was born in Treta Youga and was elder to Lord Rama and a Chiranjeevi, Immortal.


Balarama also met Sage Agastya, visited Kanyakumari


and worshiped Durga.


The place he visited Muruga is Valliyur, 30 km from Tirunelveli,Tamil Nadu.


Sri Balarama’s pilgrimage (Mahabharata 9 – Shalya Parva)

“Then, given leave by the sages, the Lord went with a contingent of brahmanas to the Kausiki River, where He bathed. From there He went to the lake from which flows the river Sarayu.

“The Lord followed the course of the Sarayu until He came to Prayaga, where He bathed and then performed rituals to propitiate the demigods and other living beings. Next He went to the asrama of Pulaha Rsi. [also known as Hari-ksetra]

“Lord Balarama bathed in the Gomati, Gandaki and Vipasa rivers, and also immersed Himself in the Sona. He went to Gaya, where He worshiped His forefathers, and to the mouth of the Ganges, where He performed purifying ablutions. At Mount Mahendra He saw Lord Parasurama and offered Him prayers, and then He bathed in the seven branches of the Godavari River, and also in the rivers Vena, Pampa and Bhimarathi. Then Lord Balarama met Lord Skanda and visited Sri Saila, the abode of Lord Girisa. In the southern provinces known as Dravida-desa the Supreme Lord saw the sacred Venkata Hill, as well as the cities of Kamakosni and Kanci, the exalted Kaveri River and the most holy Sri-ranga, where Lord Krsna has manifested Himself. From there He went to Rsabha Mountain, where Lord Krsna also lives, and to the southern Mathura. Then He came to Setubandha, where the most grievous sins are destroyed.

“There at Setubandha (Ramesvaram) Lord Halayudha gave brahmanas ten thousand cows in charity. He then visited the Krtamala and Tamraparni rivers and the great Malaya Mountains. In the Malaya range Lord Balarama found Agastya Rsi sitting in meditation. After bowing down to the sage, the Lord offered him prayers and then received blessings from him. Taking leave from Agastya, He proceeded to the shore of the southern ocean, where He saw Goddess Durga in her form of Kanya-kumari.

“Next He went to Phalguna-tirtha and bathed in the sacred Pancapsara Lake, where Lord Visnu had directly manifested Himself. At this place He gave away another ten thousand cows.

“The Supreme Lord then traveled through the kingdoms of Kerala and Trigarta, visiting Lord Siva’s sacred city of Gokarna, where Lord Dhurjati (Siva) directly manifests himself. After also visiting Goddess Parvati, who dwells on an island, Lord Balarama went to the holy district of Surparaka and bathed in the Tapi, Payosni and Nirvindhya rivers. He next entered the Dandaka forest and went to the river Reva, along which the city of Mahismati is found. Then He bathed at Manu-tirtha and finally returned to Prabhasa.” (SB 10.79.9-21)






Is This All There Is

In lifestyle on September 2, 2014 at 10:12

People, after a certain age, tend to change.


Especially those who have crossed 50, more so after 60.


They make it a regimen to go for a Walk religiously every day,start diet restrictions,try to withdraw to themselves and pretend that they are not interested in things which they think belong to Youth.


Life does not happen in compartments.

It is a flow in alignment with the individual’s dispositions.

Because one turns  over in age, does not mean he is to change his likes and dislikes.

You have not been able to do the things you wanted to earlier because of your career, Family commitments.

Now you are free to do what you like and enjoy doing.

And there is no pressure.


You have the mistaken impression that decisions taken by your children , in the family, means that you are sidelined,

You feel that you have to be consulted for everything,

You have the arrogance to think you are always right’

Your decision is final.

Remember how many times have  we felt, in the past,that these pressures of running the day-to-day affairs and wished others would share the burden, especially children.

And we train the children towards that end.

Then why this confusion?

Do what you like, without affecting the Family,maintain a detached attachment.

If you feel alright, no need to follow the myth imposed on the aged-be your age,do pooja regularly,go for a walk, restrict your diet….the recommendations are endless.

Do what you like and enjoy Life.

You have only one to Live.


Atharva Veda Medicine Black Magic Text

In Hinduism on August 31, 2014 at 12:55

Of the Four Vedas, the Scriptures of the Hindus,the Ataharva Veda is less known as compared to Rig,Yajur and Sama Vedas.


It is not Athavana Veda as most people pronounce it.


Atharveda is not as large as the Rug Veda.


There are 10552 verses in Rig Veda and around 5987 verses (varies slightly based on recessions) in Atharva Veda.


Thus Atharva Veda is a little more than half the size of Rig Veda.


It is three times bigger than Yajur Veda or Sama Veda.


From the preliminary analysis of the text, it is revealed that Atharva Veda was centered around the northern Sarasvati region and later became the text of the shamans in the Kuru kingdom which got established to the east of Sarasvati (in Haryana).


Practitioners of Atharva Veda are now limited and they are found mostly in Maharashtra and Kerala, Gujarat.


As compared to the other three Vedas, the Atharva Veda speaks more of Daily problems and solutions, like diseases,black magic.


The name Atharva Veda is a compound of Atharva, the Rishi who compiled it and Veda, meaning Knowledge.


The Atharvaveda was mainly composed by two groups of rishis known as the Atharvanas and the Angirasa.


Hence its oldest name is Ātharvāṅgirasa. In the Late Vedic Gopatha Brahmana, it is attributed to the Bhrigu and Angirasa.


Additionally, tradition ascribes parts to other rishis, such as Kauśika, Vasiṣṭha and Kaśyapa.


There are two surviving recensions (śākhās), known as Śaunakīya (AVS) and Paippalāda (AVP)


The Schools,Shakas.


  1. paippalāda, regions south of the Narmada River
  2. stauda
  3. mauda
  4. śaunakīya, regions north of the Narmada River
  5. jājala
  6. jalada
  7. kuntap
  8. brahmavada
  9. devadarśa
  10. cāraṇavaidyā


Disease and Medicines in Atharva Veda.


Atharva Veda is the first Indic text dealing with medicine.

It identifies the causes of disease as living causative agents such as the yatudhāna, the kimīdin, the krimi or kṛmi and the durṇāma.

The Atharvans seek to kill them with a variety of incantations or plant-based drugs in order to counter the disease .

This approach to disease is quite different compared to the trihumoral theory of Ayurveda.

Atharva Veda suggests germs as a cause for leprosy and also talks about Anti-Biotics.


Atharva Veda also talks about Warfare.


A variety of devices, such as an arrow with a duct for poison (apāskambha) and castor bean poison, poisoned net and hook traps, use of disease-spreading insects and smoke screen.


Abhicarika Prayoga, Deployment of Black Magic.


The major rituals covered by the Atharva Veda are marriage in kāṃḍa – XIV and the funeral in kāṃḍa – XVIII.

There are also hymns that are specific to rituals of the bhṛgu-aṅgirasas, vrātyas and kṣatriyas.

One peculiar rite is the Viṣāsahi Vrata, performed with the mantras of the XVII kāṃḍa in a spell against female rivals.


Atharva Veda contains mantras for white magic (defensive magic) as well as black magic (offensive magic).

It deals with rivalries between women in relationship with the same man, rivalries between two men, attracting /seducing a man by a woman or a woman by a man and suggests incantations that can be used in such situations.


Atharva Veda Black magic and Western Black magic.


Many of the hymns in Atharva Veda containing invocations to cure diseases or to ward of diseases and magical incantations to defend against evils done by enemies or to proactively attack evil-doers indicates a religion and philosophy which has its parallels in the Shamanic traditions in the whole world.

Since Atharva Veda is the oldest text describing these practices and since it is still preserved without much modification, it is possible that Shamanic traditions worldwide have their origins in the Atharva Vedic religion.

This could mean that the Shamaic traditions in Europe such as those in Ireland, Belgium etc could have its origins in the Atharva Vedic-homeland in Saraswati-Ganga basins.

Similar traditions are also found in the southern India and in various pockets of central and eastern India.

This situation however can also be explained without a migration scenario.

It is possible that the Shamanic traditions well-preserved in Atharva Veda was one important part of the global Shamanic traditions that had already spread throughout Asia, Africa and Europe during the early days of awakening of the human civilization.


Atharva Veda Text in  English by Ralph T.H.Griffith.






Ramani’s blog for Versatile Blogger

In Blogging on August 30, 2014 at 19:20

Ramani’s blog has been nominated for Versatile Blogger Award.

I started blogging in August 19,2009, has completed five years of blogging.

Versatile Blogger Award.jpg

Versatile Blogger Award.

It has been a journey of joy sharing what little I know,getting information from people who know more and most importantly picking up some good friends in the process,from US to Australia, not to mention people from India.

It is really a pleasure to know that majority of the readers belong to the Age group of 25-40, breaking  the commonly held belief that the younger generation do not read serious stuff, especially relating to Religion and Philosophy.

And the questions I get from my readers have enriched in terms of  research into the subject and making me richer in knowledge.

A word about more blogs on Hinduism and Philosophy.

As I wrote earlier in one of my Pages, I was merely interested in sharing what I thought was worth sharing.

As readers were/are interested in them, I felt it to be my duty to write on subjects my readers are interested in.

So I started writing more on Hinduism and Philosophy.

To my surprise I seem to know some thing about these subjects and enjoy writing on them.

However I shall continue writing on other topics as well.

Now to Versatile Blogger Award nomination.

Ramani’s blog has been nominated for he Versatile Blogger Award by Amaruvi’s Aphorism.

Thank you for nominating.

The Rules:

  • Thank the blogger who nominates you publicly in the post and by linking back to  his/her blog.
  • Display the image of the award on your blog.
  • Share 7 interesting facts about yourself.
  • Nominate a minimum of 5 bloggers for the award and notify them  on their “about” page or another page of their blog.

I nominate the following blogs for Versatile Blogger Award.












Though I have nothing much to say about myself, as I am to list some facts ,I am stating them.

( I tell my children that I have nothing to speak or write about me after my death, excepting that Born On.. and Died On, for both of which I am not responsible)

Reading anything, print or web.

Lave of Tamil, Sanskrit and English.

Interested in Shakespeare,Wordsworth,Byron, Shelley,Classical Tamil,Sanskrit, Kannadasan Jayakanthan,Sujatha.

Interested in Philosophy, Hinduism,Paranormal, Vedas.

Higher Physics.

Incidentally Ramani’s blog Hits as on 30 August,2014, is 2.49 millions.

Number of Posts 6848.

Categories, 120

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