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Hanuman Vanaras Are Neanderthals Of India

In Hinduism on July 18, 2014 at 19:59

Recently I have been going through the Geological characteristic of Europe and its History.

 

The essence is.

 

1.Asia remained as reservoir of all races moving in to Europe.

 

2.For reasons not very known’ Humans started pushing towards Europe, this is presumed to be due to a cataclysmic event like flood or long dry periods.

 

3.Access to Europe was easy as the Russian plains were there to cross over effortlessly.

 

4.The complex structure of European geological features made these groups entering into Europe to become small groups settling n pockets.

 

The Basques settled in the North of Pyrenees, Celts in Wales,Ireland and north-west of Scotland,Lombard in Italy,

 

In the Fourth Century AD, out of Asia came the Huns,predecessor of Germans),Tatars.

 

Later came the Magyars, who are in Hungary,Bulgar in Bulgaria .

 

Neanderthal Man.jpg

Neanderthal Man.

 

 

Then came the Turks.

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Hanuman.

 

All from Asia!

 

Unsettling fact is that these groups seem to have displaced the existing groups in these areas!

 

Who are they and where did they come from?

 

I shall discuss this later and now proceed to Vanaras and Neanderthals.

 

Though it is accepted fact that the migration started from Asia into Europe,there seems to be no evidence of Neanderthal type of man in India.

 

The reason could have been a cataclysm like great fire or Flood.

 

Europe  did not witness such a cataclysm.

 

Hence the remains of such type of evidence has not been found as it might be deep down the water  or incinerated, the remains might be charred and

need  detailed investigation.

 

But, as I have been maintaining  my posts, there is this obsession to follow the History(?) of Europe through European sources, when these sources quote Asian/Indian resources for their first migration !

 

The earliest Epic of Mankind, The Ramayana gives a clear description of the type of Species.

 

Valimki states that when Rama decided to attack Ravana He gave a call through  Sugreeva.

 

The Vanaras came from  all the places from Madhya Pradesh,South India, and from the place ‘where the Sun always shines or always sets”

 

The last one is Polar regions.

 

Valmiki also mentions that the Vanaras were dominant in South India, they were concentrated in Kishkinta, they had high foreheads and features (resembling the Vanaras), and they lived in caves.

 

One can find these warren of Caves in the remains of Hampi which was earlier Kishkinta.

 

Vanaras  meansVan( forest) and Naras, man like beings in Forests.

 

In Mahabharata Lord Krishna says the Species to which Jambhavan belonged was near extinct( one must remember Jambhavan appears, along with Hanuman in both Ramayana and Mahabharata).

 

The description of Jambhavan in the Ramayana resembles the Yeti.

 

Some Indologists speak of these being s having lived in South India 5,00, 000 years ago!

 

Neanderthals  could speak and reason out, though the later point is being disputed .

 

One needs to analyse the Kishkinda Kanda of Ramayana.

 

It seems to me that Hanuman and Vanaras belonged to the equivalent of what is known as Neanderthal in the west.

 

Indian Neanderthal ( why can’t we call the species as Vanaras)  are the Vanaras and they populated the South India.

 

When one looks at the records of the ancient History of Tamils, one would find references to species like this and one should not forget Lemuria!

 

reference.

http://www.mallstuffs.com/Blogs/BlogDetails.aspx?BlogId=273&BlogType=Spiritual&Topic=Neanderthal%20man%20and%20hominid%20species%20in%20Ramayana

 

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/science/sc-moff2.htm

 

Image Credit.

http://ourinfinitelyevolvinguniverse.blogspot.in/2012/07/hanuman-chalisa.html

 

Lands and Peoples By Grolier Incorporated Volume 3 Europe pages 15, 18,19.

Ancient India Maps With Kumari Kandam

In Hinduism, Tamils on July 11, 2014 at 13:20

While Scholars of the West and some Indians are prepared to accept Homer’s Iliad and Odysseus, the City of Troy, the same courtesy is not extended to Indian Sources,Puranas and Tamil Litrature.

 

Evidence pointing the existence of  Kumari Kandam , a Super continent  abounds in Tamil Literature .

 

Sanskrit texts allude to this.

 

The Sankalpa of Hindus say, Bharathak Kande’ not Kumarik Kande.

 

That there was a very rich culture in existence , south of Vindyas and that they had close relationship with Sanatana Dharma is evident.

 

Mahabharata quotes a list of  Tamil Kings who attended Draupadi’s Swayamvara.

 

The Tamil kings are named in the marriage ceremony of Lord Rama.

 

In Damayanti’s Swayamvara, the Tamil Kings are named.

 

Tamil literature , especially Silappathikaram, Manimekalai has copious references to Kumari Kandam.

 

Combining both Sanskrit and Tamil Histories together, research has been done and it  proves the existence of Kumari Kandam.

 

Maps of India at different ancient periods are as followed.

 

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India with Sea levels in ancient periods.

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India with Kumari Kandam 16,000 BCE.

 

16,000 BCE:- The sea level rose from – 130 meters to -120 meters (10 meters in the 3500 years since 19,500 BCE). The Central Indian Ridge (CIR) – Sumatra – Diffuse plate boundary of Indian plate falls through Kumari Kandam. It is a region with anomalous seismic activity and is part of the Chagos Anomalous Seismicity Region. Due to this inter-plate deformation, the surface elevation in Kumari Kandam region dropped. As a result to the combined effect of the sea level rise and the surface elevation fall, Kumari Kandam started submerging.

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India 14,000 BCE,14,000 BCE:- Due to the combined effect of sea level rise and surface elevation drop more parts of Kumari Kandam submerged leaving many islands. Ten-Madurai city probably survived as an island. By 14,000 BCE, the sea level again rose 10 meters (-120 m to -110 m, in 2000 years). We cannot rule out floods, because sea-level rise was never gradual. It contained occasional sudden rise and gradual rise at other times.

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India 9600 BCE.9,600 BCE:- The southern stretch of Kumari Kandam is all gone. Ten-madurai city is now submerged. Kapatapuram / Kavaata is the new cultural center of Kumari Kandam which exist to the southern tip of what is left of Kumari Kandam. Sea level is now at -60 meters. In 4500 years since 14,000 BCE, sea level rose by 50 meters with two major rises interspersed with gradual rise.

 

History of Tamils by PT.Srinivasa Iengar.

 

Chandra Gupta Megasthanes Never Met History Faked

In Hinduism, History on July 4, 2014 at 09:08

How does one start a Nation’s History?

 

Queen Kumaradevi and King Chandragupta I, depicted on a coin of their son Samudragupta, 335–380 CE.image.

Queen Kumaradevi and King Chandragupta I, depicted on a coin of their son Samudragupta, 335–380 CE

 

What does one base it on?

 

Common sense would tell you to refer to the legends,literature of the Nation, check with contemporary event,s then cross check it with references , if any, if these literature is contemporary or slightly later.

 

Can you imagine a Nation,s History being started solely on the basis of a Character, who has not even met the man he is quoted to have met!

 

Well, this is what has happened to Indian History.

 

Of Chandra Gupta Maurya.

 

The man whose testimony is relied upon is Megasthanes.

 

Megasthanes included, interpolated  Greek Gods and Goddesses( read my post on how History invented Greek Gods).

 

These were later based upon along with the other names in Greek , presumably Indian, was linked to Chandra Gupta.

 

  1. Megasthenes has nowhere mentioned the word Maurya
  2. He makes absolutely no mention of a person called either Chanakya or Kautilya.
  3. Indian historians have recorded two Chandra guptas, one of the Maurya dynasty and another of the Gupta dynasty. Both of them had a grandson called Ashoka. While the Mauryan Chandragupta’ s son was called Bimbasara (sometimes Bindusara), The Gupta Chandragupta had a son called Samudragupta. Interestingly Megasthenese has written that Sandrakuttos had a son called Samdrakyptos, which is phonetically nearer to Samudragupta and not Bindusara.
  4. The king lists given by the Puranas say that 1500 years elapsed from the time of the Kurukshetra war to the beginning of the Nanda dynasty’s rule. If one assumes the Nandas’ period to be 5th century BCE, this would put the Bharatha war around 1900 BCE whereas the traditional view has always been 3100 BCE. This gives a difference of 1200 years which go unaccounted.
  5. Megasthanese himself says 137 generations of kings have come and gone between Krishna and Sandrakuttos, whereas the puranas give around 83 generations only between Jarasandha’s son (Krishna’s contemporary) to the Nandas of the Magadha kingdom.. Assuming an average of 20 to 25 years per generation, the difference of 54 generations would account for the gap of the 1200 years till the time of Alexander.

  1. The Chinese have always maintained that Buddhism came to China from India around 1100 -1200 BCE, whereas the western historians tend to put Buddha at 500 BCE
  2. According to the Greek accounts, Xandrammes was deposed by Sandrokottas and Sandrocyptus was the son of Sandrokottas. In the case of Chandragupta Maurya, he had opposed Dhanananda of the Nanda dynasty and the name of his son was Bindusara. Both these names, Dhanananda and Bindusara, have no phonetic similarity with the names Xandrammes and Sandrocyptus of the Greek accounts.

 

  1. Asoka’s empire was bigger than that of Chandragupta Maurya and he had sent missionaries to the so-called Yavana countries. But both of them are not mentioned. Colebrook has pointed out that the Greek writers did not say anything about the Buddhist Bhikkus though that was the flourishing religion of that time with the royal patronage of Asoka. Roychaudhari also wonders why the Greek accounts are silent on Buddhism.
  1. The empire of Chandragupta was known as Magadha empire. It had a long history even at the time of Chandragupta Maurya. In Indian literature, this powerful empire is amply described by this name but it is absent in the Greek accounts. It is difficult to understand as to why Megasthanese did not use this name and instead used the word Prassi which has no equivalent or counterpart in Indian accounts.
  1. To decide as to whether Pataliputra was the capital of the Mauryas, Puranas is the only source. Puranas inform us that all the eight dynasties that ruled Magadha after the Mahabharata War had Girivraja as their capital. Mauryas are listed as one of the eight dynasties. The name Pataliputra is not even hinted at, anywhere in the Puranas.

In the Greek accounts, Sandrokottas of Palimbothra is described as a contemporary of Alexander of Macedonia who invaded India during 327 BC to 323 BC This decides the approximate date of Chandragupta Maurya. Princep’s research decides the approximate date of Asoka, the grandson of Chandragupta Maurya as in 3rd century BC Both these dates were adjusted with the reign periods of the three successive Magadha kings, Chandragupta, Bindusara and Asoka of the Maurya dynasty given in the Puranas. Thus, the date c. 320 BC was fixed as the date of coronation of Chandragupta Maurya. It is on this date that every other date of Indian history has been constructed.

Max Mueller, in 1859 AD, finalized this identity of Sandrokottas with Chandragupta Maurya and declared c. 320 BC, the date of coronation of Chandragupta Maurya as the Sheet Anchor of Indian history. M. Troyer did not agree with this conclusion and noted this fact in the introduction to his translation of Rajatarangani of Kalhana. He even communicated his views to Prof. Max Mueller in a letter but did not receive a reply from him.

 

Historian V. A. Smith took the chronological identity asserted by the predecessors in this historical hierarchy as the basis for further calculation of the exact dates of the different dynasties that ruled over Magadha after and before the Mauryas. He took the aid of numismatics in addition to epigraphy. He could not however get over, as if by compunction, to follow the Puranas in the enumeration of the kings and their dynasties. But he reduced their reign periods. The total reduction done by these British scholars, from Jones to Smith, comes to 1300 years according to some Indian chronologists.

 

Citation.

http://controversialhistory.blogspot.in/2009/07/did-megasthenes-meet-chandragupta.html#.U7Yec1WSz3S

 

The site mentioned contains great articles.

 

“Uproot Rig Veda” Max Mueller The Fraud’s Quotes

In Hinduism on July 3, 2014 at 17:03

The real Max Mueller reveals himself here.

In the later portion of this post, note how cleverly he mixes up his real iMintentions by praising the Vedas, to lend credibility to his thesis(?)

 

““It (The Rigveda) is the root of their religion and to show them what the root is, I feel sure, is the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last three thousand years.”-Max Mueller to His wife,in his letter.

English: Photograph of Max Muller as a young man

English: Photograph of Max Muller as a young man (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Max Mueller.

 

Later he also wrote to the Duke of Argyle, the then acting Secretary of State for India:

 

“The ancient religion of India is doomed. And if Christianity does not take its place, whose fault will it be?”

 

The Biblical Creation Theory states that the world was created with all its life forms at 9.00 AM, October 23, 4004 BC.

 

If one goes by the real date of the Rig Veda, arrived at and the establishment of the dates of the Ramayana and Mahabharata being quite ancient , which has been proved and that these dates are real and validated by Astronomical data, it would not suit Christianity.

 

Max Muller it is said was an agent of the British colonial rulerswho was funded by them to write, rewrite and distort the history of Asia so as to establish Christian history as superior to that of the Asians and create an inferiority complex among the Indians by proving to them that their history, traditions, culture, philosophy, religion etc. had no value before the history and culture of Europe.
He originally estimated that the Rig Veda was written around 1200 B.C as a later date could have been in conflict with the Christian beliefs. He also formulated the Aryan Invasion Theory to show that the Vedas and the superior Aryan race came to India from Europe.

Max Muller and other missionaries like Ralph T.H. Griffith, Maurice Bloomsfield, Wilson etc. also tried to learn sanskrit to comprehend the primary Hindu scriptures but landed up distorting them by the application of the Abrahamic template on the Hindu worldview

Moreover due to this distortion and mistranslation of Vedic scriptures rendered by manyindologists in the past, many people including the Hindus today assume that Hinduism consists of blind superstitions, beef eating, horse killing, animal sacrifice, caste system, etc

 

Mr.Boulanger, the editor of Russian edition of The Sacred Books of the East Series, in the context of the commentary/translation of the Vedas by Max Muller, stated:
“What struck me in Max Muller’s translation was a lot of absurdities, obscene passages and a lot of what is not lucid…. As far as I can grab the teaching of the Vedas, it is so sublime that I would look upon it as a crime on my part, if the Russian public becomes acquainted with it through the medium of a confused and distorted translation, thus not deriving for its soul that benefit which this teaching should give to the people”.

The ancient Hindu scriptures- Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, etc. have been preserved in the language of ‘sanskrit’ which today is recognized as the most advanced and scientific language so much so that even scientists are trying to incorporate it into computers to increase the scope of artificial intelligence and give a boost to the field of robotics.

 

Sanskrit is indeed a highly modular language where words change when they are combined.

Importance is hence given to the way the words are pronounced and the way in which it is written.

Any little mistake in the ‘halant or visarga’ alone can change the meaning of the sentence.

The teachings of the Vedas, Upanishads and Gita has thus been preserved and considered universally applicable because of the scientific integrity and consistency of the sanskrit language.

Unlike other literature or the abrahamic religious texts which are updated as the seasons change, the primary Hindu scriptures remain intact delivering the same eternal knowledge which is always nourishing to a scientific and a philosophical mind.

 

 

  • History seems to teach that the whole human race required a gradual education before, in the fullness of time, it could be admitted to the truths of Christianity. All the fallacies of human reason had to be exhausted, before the light of a high truth could meet with ready acceptance. The ancient religions of the world were but the milk of nature, which was in due time to be succeeded by the bread of life…. The religion of Buddha has spread far beyond the limits of the Aryan world, and to our limited vision, it may seem to have retarded the advent of Christianity among a large portion of the human race. But in the sight of Him with whom a thousand years are but as one day, that religion, like the ancient religions of the world, may have but served to prepare the way of Christ, by helping through its very errors to strengthen and to deepen the ineradicable yearning of the human heart after the truth of God.
    • History of Ancient Sanksrit Literature (1860)

When a religion has ceased to produce defenders of the faith, prophets, champions, martyrs, it has ceased to live, in the true sense of the word…

  • The worship of ShivaVishnu, and other popular deities was of the same and in many cases of a more degraded and savage character than the worship of JupiterApollo or Minerva. … A religion may linger on for a long time, it may be accepted by large masses of the people, because it is there, and there is nothing better. But when a religion has ceased to produce defenders of the faith, prophets, champions, martyrs, it has ceased to live, in the true sense of the word; and in that sense the old orthodox Brahmanism has ceased to live for more than a thousand years.
    • Lecture at Westminster Abbey (1873); as quoted in Hinduism : A Religion to Live By (1997) by Nirad C. Chaudhari ISBN 0195640136

If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered over the greatest problems of life… I should point to India.

  • If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered over the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions of some of them which well deserve the attention even of those who have studied Plato and Kant, I should point to India. And if I were to ask myself from what literature we who have been nurtured almost exclusively on the thoughts of Greeks and Romans, and of the Semitic race, the Jewish, may draw the corrective which is most wanted in order to make our inner life more perfect, more comprehensive, more universal, in fact more truly human a life… again I should point to India.
    • India, What Can It Teach Us (1882) Lecture IV
  • They contain, by the side of simple, natural, childish thoughts, many ideas which to us sound decidedly modern, or secondary and tertiary.
    • On the Vedas, in India, What can it teach us (1882) Lecture IV
  • I have declared again and again that if I say Aryans, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language… in that sense, and in that sense only, do I say that even the blackest Hindus represent an earlier stage of Aryan speech and thought than the fairest Scandinavians… To me an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar.
    • Biographies of Words and the Home of the Aryas (1888)

 

Citation.

http://www.chakranews.com/the-max-muller-syndrome-deceiving-hindus-part-2/1408

 

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller

 

Date Of Shankaracharya Born In Chidambaram

In Hinduism on July 1, 2014 at 18:37

 

श्रुतिस्मृतिपुराणानामालयं करुणालयम्|

नमामि भगवत्पादशंकरं लोकशङ्करम् ||
Śruti smṛti purāṇānāṃālayaṃ karuṇālayaṃ|
Namāmi Bhagavatpādaśaṅkaraṃ lokaśaṅkaraṃ||

I salute the compassionate abode of the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas known as Shankara Bhagavatpada, who makes the world auspicious.

 

 

 

Dating Adi Shankaracharya proves to be a daunting task.

 

1.The habit of using nom de plume by Rishis, Philosophers and Kings.We have many Agastya, Avvaiyaar,Viswamitras.

 

This makes it difficult to  date them precisely as they have lived at different points of time.

 

Shankaracharya‘ Guru Govinda Bhagavadpada, one study claims lived during the period of Vikramaditya as there are two Vikramadityas,one of the

Maurya and another of the Chalukya dynasty.

 

The first one lived around 4th Century CE, while the latter in (Vikramaditya II )(733–746 CE)

 

2.The internal evidence of Shankaracharya’s works do not provide many a clue,exception being the one about Thirugnana Sambhandar, who, it is

agreed, is addressed by Shankaracharya as ‘Dravida Sisu’ in his Soundayalahari.

 

His references to Kumarila Bhatta and Mandana Misra are equally confusing to pin point the date.

 

Kumarilabhatta is dated approximately at  roughly AD 700.

 

Mandana Misra at 800 AD;he was a student of Mandana Misra.

 

Thirugnana Sambhandar who is referred by Shankaracharya is dated  7th Century AD.

 

There is confusion here as , according to some reports, Appar, who was a contemporary of GnanaSambhandar, lived during the period of Raja Raja

Chozhan, who lived 985 and 1014 !

This is not correct as Raja Raja Chozhan found the ancient scripts of Appar, among many others with the help of Nambi Anadar Nambi.

 

Yet in his Magnum Opus, Ponniyin Selvan quotes Appar having met Kundavai, daughter of Raja Raja Chozhan.

 

3.Adi Shankaracharya scrupulously avoided any mention of his personal Life.

 

He always refers to himself as the Disciple of Govinda Bhagavadpaada, “Govindabhagavadpada Sishya’

 

4.That Shankaracharya is an Avatar of Shiva-this has obfuscated research with out bias.

 

With all these impediments there are two distinct views which seem credible.

 

 

  • 788–820 CE: This is the mainstream scholarly opinion, placing Shankara in mid to late 8th century CE. These dates are based on records at the Śṛṅgeri Śāradā Pīṭha, which is the only matha to have maintained a relatively unbroken record of its Acharyas; starting with the third Acharya, one can with reasonable confidence date the others from the 8th century to the present. The Sringeri records state that Shankara was born in the 14th year of the reign of “VikramAditya”, but it is unclear as to which king this name refers. Though some researchers identify the name with Chandragupta II (4th century CE), modern scholarship accepts the VikramAditya as being from the Chalukya dynasty of Badami, most likely Vikramaditya II (733–746 CE), 8 t which would place him in the middle of the 8th century. Max Müller, Macdonnel, Pathok, Deussen and Radhakrishnan all accept the dates 788–820 CE. The date 788–820 is also among those considered acceptable by Swami Tapasyananda, though he raises a number of questions.
  • 509–477 BCE: This dating, more than a millennium ahead of all others, is based on records of the heads of the Shankara Maṭhas at Dvaraka Pitha and Govardhana mathaand the fifth Peetham at Kanchi.However, the succession of acharyas at these two mathas were often disrupted by geopolitical realities and these records are not considered as reliable as the Sringeri chronology. Also, such an early date would be in conflict with much else in Indian chronology. According to these revisionist models, these are the actual dates, and it is other collateral dates, such as the date of Gautama Buddha (which serves as an anchor for modern academic history of India), that need to be moved back. However, such an early date is not consistent with the fact that Shankara quotes the Buddhist logician Dharmakirti, who finds mention in Xuanzang (7th century).[12] Also, his near-contemporary Kumārila Bhaṭṭa is usually dated c. 8th century CE. Most scholars feel that due to invasions and other discontinuities, the records of the Dwaraka and Govardhana mathas are not as reliable as those of Sringeri. Thus, while considerable debate exists, the pre-Christian Era dates are usually discounted, and the most likely period for Shankara is during the 8th century CE.
  • 44–12 BCE: the commentator Anandagiri believed he was born at Chidambaram in 44 BCE and died in 12 BCE.
  • 6th century CE: Telang placed him in this century. Sir R G Bandarkar believed he was born in 680 CE.
  • 805–897: A D Venkiteswara not only places Shankara later than most, but also had the opinion that it would not have been possible for him to have achieved all the works apportioned to him, and has him live ninety two years.

On balance by relying on the records of Sringeri Sharada Peetham, where there no break in succession of the Acaharyas of Shankaracharya, the Date of

 

Shankaracharya may be taken at 8th Century CE.

 

*Anandagiri.

Trotakacharya (IAST Troṭakācārya) (c. 8th century CE) was a disciple of Ādi Śaṅkara, the Advaita philosopher. He was made the first Jagadguru (head) of the Jyotirmaṭha Pīthaṃ, the northern maṭha founded by Ādi Śaṅkara near Badrinath. He founded a maṭha by name Vadakke Matham in Thrissur, Kerala.

 

Inputs welcome.

 

Citation.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shankara

 

 

 

www.sringeri.net

History of the Tamils by PT.Srinivasa Ayyangar

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