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Brahmins Organized Indian Marriage System Tholkappiyar

In Hinduism, Tamils on December 16, 2014 at 19:27

I have often wondered who organized the Marriage System (Monogamy) in India.

 

Though marriage is considered to be sacred in Hinduism and has elaborate Rituals to solemnize and conduct marriages, I have not been able to find any definite information on who organized this system of marriage.

 

Marriage ceremony.jpeg.

Hindu Marriage ceremony.

 

I could not find the origin of marriage details from the Puranas, Vedas or Ithihasas.

 

All these texts glorify and explain the rituals connected with Marriage.

 

The first written record  on who organized marriage as a System is found in the ancient Tamil Grammar Book, Tholkappiyam, written by Tholkappiar (between 3rd century BCE and the 3rd century CE), a disciple of Sage Agasthya.

 

He states that the society was being ruined by indiscriminate copulation ,involving Lies, frauds.

 

Hence  Brahmins organized the system of marriage.

 

“மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும் புணர்த்த கரணம்
கீழோர்க்காகிய காலமும் உண்டே (1090)
பொய்யும் வழுவும் தோன்றிய பின்னர்
ஐயர் யாத்தனர் கரணம் என்ப (1091) Tholkappiyam.

 

Here there is a rider.

 

Marriage as a system which was in existence for the three Varnas(மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும்) is now being set for the Fourth Varna by the Brahmins.

 

Meaning of the text.

 

Marriage as a System, which was in existence for three varnas, is now set for the fourth varna by Brahmins

 

Information to enrich the article welcome.

World History Timeline By Rigveda

In Hinduism on December 3, 2014 at 16:51

Of late I have been researching into the connection between Tamil and Sanatana Dharma, though I have posted a few articles on the subject earlier.

 

I have been able to confirm to myself the following.

 

1.The Tamil, Dravida and the Sanatan Dharma were closely connected and people were interacting with each other.

 

Kaala Chakra, world Tie Line by Rig Veda.png

Kaala Chakra, world Tie Line by Rig Veda.

 

2.Historical Characters like Krishna, Sahadeva and Arjuna traveled to the South and Krishna and Arjuna married Dravidian women, had  children through them.

 

3.The Tamil Kings were held in such high esteem that one of them Udiyan Cheralathan was in charge of feeding both the Kaurava and Pandava Armies during the Mahabharata Battle.

 

3.Sage Agasthya , who is presumed to have founded the Tamil Language is the same one who wrote the Rig Vedic Hymns 166 to 190.

 

4.Agasthya crossed the Vindhyas to enter Dravidian Territory.

 

5.Kumari Kandam is not a figment of Tamil Imagination.

 

6.Various references about Tamil in the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana and Mahabharata and by Tamil in Tholkaapiyam,Silappadikaara and Manimekalai about Sanatana Dharma check out.

 

I have been able to check the dates and events with the help of Astronomical Data found in Tamil and Sanskrit Literature,Vedas, Puranas, Ramayana and Mahabharata.

 

This has been done with the help of Star Canopus, called Agasthya, mentioned in Tamil Classics and Sanskrit.

 

I wanted to cross verify this with the help of references found on Time in the Rig Veda.

 

Rig Veda , the earliest literature known to Man speaks of Time as a Wheel, thereby denoting that Time is Cyclic.

 

I have posted a detailed article on ‘Time, Non-Linear, Cyclic’

 

rvs.1.164.2:-
RV_1,164.02a sapta yuñjanti ratham ekacakram eko aśvo vahati saptanāmā |
RV_1,164.02c trinābhi cakram ajaram anarvaṃ yatremā viśvā bhuvanādhi tasthuḥ ||

Seven {sapta} are yoked {yuñjanti} to the Chariot {ratham} with a single-wheel {ekacakram} and a single horse {eko aśvo} with seven people (seven names) {saptanāmā} inside it. The wheel has three navels {trinābhi}. It is ageless {ajaram} and un-decaying {anarvam}. On it are staying {tasthuh} all the beings of the world {viśvā bhuvanādhi}.

The seven yoked entities mentioned here represents the seven days of the week constituting the first quarter of a fortnight. It is also represented in Epics and Puranas as the seven horses of the Chariot of Surya (the Sun) alluding to the seven rays of the sun (seven colors in sunlight). The seven people who rides the chariot could be an indirect references to the Seven Sages (Saptarshis). The Chariot here represent the Sun whose apparent motion in Earth’s sky is what facilitates the time measurements done using the wheel of time. The Chariot could also represents the constellation of the seven stars (Big Dipper;- Saptarshi constellation) which also helps to measure long units of time.

The ‘navel’ of the wheel mentioned here represents ‘gear’. Thus the wheel is envisaged as a machinery with three gears to change the three levels of time measurement using the same wheel of time viz. 1) hours in the day, 2) months and seasons in the year and 3) twelve zodiacal ages and four (or eight) Yugas in the Great Year (axial precession period, 25,776 years). The beings of the world depends on this wheel since the daily, yearly and precessional changes in the time indicated by this wheel of time affect all beings.

 

rvs.1.164.3:-
RV_1,164.03a imaṃ ratham adhi ye sapta tasthuḥ saptacakraṃ sapta vahanty aśvāḥ |
RV_1,164.03c sapta svasāro abhi saṃ navante yatra gavāṃ nihitā sapta nāma ||

In this Chariot {ratham}, resides {tasthuh} the seven {sapta}. It has seven-wheels {saptachakram} and is driven by seven horses {sapta vahanty aśvāḥ}. The Seven sisters { sapta svasāro} praises the Cow {gavāṃ} and the seven people (seven names) {sapta nāma}.

This verse again describes the Seven Sages (Seven Names) residing in the Chariot (the Sun) this time mentioned as having seven horses (like in Epics and Puranas) and as having seven wheels. The Seven Sisters represent river Sarasvati and the nearby rivers and is a theme repeated in Vedas. The Cow represents the Year. The significance of seven wheels is unknown. It could mean the seven zodiacal ages that had elapsed during the composition of this hymn.

 

rvs.1.164.11:-
RV_1,164.11a dvādaśāraṃ nahi taj jarāya varvarti cakram pari dyām ṛtasya |
RV_1,164.11c ā putrā agne mithunāso atra sapta śatāni viṃśatiś ca tasthuḥ ||by length of time,

By Universal-Order {ṛtasya} this wheel {cakram} of time having twelve-spokes {dvādaśāraṃ} revolves {varvarti} in the sky {dyām}, without ever weakening or aging {nahi taj jarāya}. O Agni {agne}, On it stays, in pairs {mithunāso}, 720 sons {putrā}.

The word Rta, means Universal Order, Universal Law, the Laws of Physics or the Laws of Cosmology. Here the wheel is mentioned as having twelve spokes, to measure out twelve months in a year and twelve ages in a Great Year (25,776 years). The strange number 720 mentioned here as number of sons attached to the wheel is interesting. As per Graham Hancock this could mean the 72 years taken by the wheel to move 1 degrees (71.6 approximated as 72). However 720 is also twice 360. The meaning here thus represent 720 spokes which are paired, each spoke representing 1/2 degree (36 years) and a pair of spokes representing 1 degree (72 years).

Similarly in a human lineage, if 720 sons are born at an interval of 36 years (ie father begets a sun at his 36th age, on an average) then the total duration would be 720 x 36 = 25920 years, very close to the precession period of 25,776 yeas. Due to this simplicity, the number 72, its half 36 and its half 18 with or without zeros are frequently found in the Vedas, Epics and Puranas. Similarly the multiples of 72 like 144, 216, 432 with or without zeros too are found. Besides 36 + 72 = 108 is a very special number in ancient Indian traditions.

The number of Parvas in Mahabharata is 18; number of days Kurukshetra War is fought is 18. The time gap between Kurukshetra War and submergence of Dwaraka is 36. Duration of ChaturYuga mentioned in Shanti Parva of Mahabharata is 4,320,000.

 

rvs.1.164.48:-
RV_1,164.48a dvādaśa pradhayaś cakram ekaṃ trīṇi nabhyāni ka u tac ciketa |
RV_1,164.48c tasmin sākaṃ triśatā na śaṅkavo ‘rpitāḥ ṣaṣṭir na calācalāsaḥ ||

Twelve {dvādaśa} are the major-spokes {pradhayaś}, and the wheel {cakram} is single {ekaṃ}; three {trīṇi} are the naves {nabhyā}. Who hath understood it {ka u tac ciketa}?
On it are set together 360 spokes, which cannot be loosened {na calācalāsaḥ}.

Here the Wheel of Time with 12 spokes to define 12 zodiac signs is mentioned as having 360 sub-spokes for measuring each each day of the year and each degree of movement of Vernal Equinox in every 72 years. It is mentioned as having three naves (gears of modes of operation, to measure hours in a day, months in a year and zodiacal ages in a Great Year). The verse generate curiosity in the mind of reader or reciter asking if they have any understanding of it.

Rig Veda also mentions frequently about the Cow and the Calf when it discusses about the wheel of time. Cow represent a year and Calf the residual time that is left which needs adding of few days after the expiry of few years to correct the calender. This residue is a by product of approximation of the year as 360 days, 365 days, 365.25 days or as 365.2522 days. Hence the year is rightly called the Cow and the residue the Calf.

Eg:- RV_1,164.05c (the yearling Calf {vatsa}); RV_1,164.09c the Calf {vatsa} lowed, and looked upon the Mother, the Cow.

 

References of the Wheel of Time in Mahabharata are subsequent to those found in the Vedas. They often supplement the references in the Vedas and increase their clarity.

Mbh.1.3

Three hundred and sixty cows represented by three hundred and sixty days produce one calf between them which is the year. That calf is the creator and destroyer of all. Seekers of truth following different routes, draw the milk of true knowledge with its help. Ye Aswins, ye are the creators of that calf!

The 360 cows thus represents 360 degrees and erroneously to 360 days in a year. The calf represent the residual time to complete one year. The residue in case of 360 days will be 5 days, in case of 365 days will be 1/4 day, in case of 365.25 days will be 11 minutes and so on and this chase will lead one to the secret knowledge about the precession of equinox and the wheel of time.

 

The History of World as known with the help of Rig Veda has been provided in this post at the Top.

 

Citation.

http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/article:kalachakra-2

Abhishekam Hinduism Bathing Of Gods Origin

In Hinduism on October 21, 2014 at 08:51

In Hinduism Gods are bathed in a special Ritual called Abhishekam.

 

In general,Water, Milk are the  materials used.

 

In the case of Shiva, Subramanya and Ganesha Vibhuthi are also used.

Bathing  Shiva Linga with Milk.jpg.

Bathing of Shiiva Linga,Thanjavur

 

For female Goddesses Kumkum is also used.

 

In Vaishanava Sampradaya, Turmeric powder Abhisheka is performed.

 

Tender Coconut water, Panchamruth, Flowers are used in many temples for the Deities.

 

The Deities are bathed in the morning around 5 am and are also bathed  five or six times a day depending on the number of Kaala Poojas, that is the time when the Deity is decked up for the Day.

 

Origins.

 

The seems to be no mention of Abhisheka in the Vedas, though the Veda Mantras are used now for this Ritual.

 

Nor is there any reference to this practice in the Ramayana or Mahabharata.

 

There is no information as to when this practice was started.

 

Vedas, in essence, advocate the worship of the nameless, Formless Brahman, Reality.

 

The worship of personal God is also encouraged to prepare the Mind o concentrate on the Abstract.

 

Even here there is no mention of the Abhisheka in the Vedas.

 

However Hinduism treats God as one close to the individual and does not keep God in a remote portal to be feared.

 

Gods are taken to be a part of our family.

 

One loves to do things for the loved ones.

 

For a child, we bathe it, dress it up and enjoy.

 

Hinduism attributes the qualities of man to God, though these attributes are perfect in Him.

 

So when we bathe God we do so as we would for ourselves.

 

In personal worship of Gods, the Smritis , The Bhagavad Gita, Vedas and the Puranas insist on cleanliness.

 

For the Hindus, cleanliness begins with taking bath.

 

There are three purifiers of Nature.

 

Water, Air and Fire.

 

Water purifies while air does purify the odor.

 

What these two elements could not do, Fire does and it does it perfectly.

 

So in purification ceremony water is used and air is used in the form of Dhoopa and Deepa.

 

Fire if used shall destroy.

 

It is used in the Homa.

 

In temples water is used  for Abhisheka.

 

There is also this concept.

 

The idols used in the making of them have special properties.

 

The stones used for the making of an Idol is selected carefully.

 

The Agama Sastras are specific on this.

 

The stones to be selected  must have resonance.

 

In a temple Veda mantras are recited.

 

The Idol absorbs the sound waves from the mantras and are charged .

 

Depending on the Nature of the stone used the Abhisheka Theertha, Milk gains medicinal properties as well.

 

Abhisheka is a Ritual to bring God closer to us mentally by treating Him as one of us.

 

And to purify the Idol , charge it,

 

Are The Vedas Obscene

In Hinduism on October 16, 2014 at 09:29

I have come across an article which claims to have analyzed the Vedas in-depth, with quotes and translations from eminent persons like Swami Dayananda Sarasvati,concluding  that the Vedas are Obscene.

 

 

I have published an article on whether Rama’s Mother Kausalya indulged in Horse sex and orgy.

 

Although all three of King Dasaratha’s wives were united with the carcass of the horse, Rama’s mom Kausalya was the one who had the honor of spending a whole night with the dead animal’s genitals plugged in her vagina: “

 

Another on the observation that the Vedas contain and promote Incest.

 

‘Swami Dayanand Saraswati, in his book Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika on the authority of Rigved 1/164/33, uses immoral language to convey the working of the natural phenomenon. You can yourself assess the cheap nature of this allegory, which promotes and glorifies incest”

 

Links are provided towards the close of the Post and you may read my rebuttals.

 

Now to the conclusion that the Vedas are obscene.

 

1.One should study the Vedas in its entirety.

 

The Vedas are not Books that are compiled to promote a particular group nor are they founded by some one who visits Heaven in a Horse, reads the Laws of God written in a Stone(as if God can not remember His own Laws) and reveals(?) after  some time (possibly for recollection).

 

The Vedas are grasped from the Ether by various people of various dispositions and were transmitted through word of mouth.

 

Unlike some Religions, Hinduism, does not believe in numbers nor does it proclaim that  those who do not  subscribe to it are Infidels,Heathen, nor does it consign them to Hell.

Information as experienced, as distinct from  being learned, were compiled later by Vyasa for People to refer and follow, if they so desire.

 

2.The Vedas need 36 years of study or at least seven years to understand.

 

3.The core teaching has to be grasped, that of,

 

Reality being a Principle,

 

That It has No name and Form,

 

That the Deavatas and the Timurthis, Brahma, Vishnu ans Rudra are prone to emotions and they pay for their actions.

 

Especially the Deavatas like Indra , Varuna, Agni, Vayu and others are only a slightly more evolved Beings than Man:they undergo the trails and tribulations as we Humans go through because of our desires.

 

3.Some of the passages quoted in the article are allegorical and they do not promote obscenity.

 

4.To understand the Vedas , one must know that Vedas, at the Highest level do not subscribe to the concept of Sin at all.

 

It says that the so-called Sins are the result of Human Nature nd warns people to stay away if they want to develop spiritually.

 

Sanctions are imposed by the Smritis and not by the Sruthi(Vedas)

 

Later The Ithihasas, Ramayana,  Mahabharata and the Puranas express this idea from real life and expose the perils of such desires.

 

But this concept needs maturity to understand.

 

In the hands of the immature this would promote personal degradation and social instability.

 

5.And one must understand that The Puranas,and the Vedas are facts and they reveal what is the Truth, even if it be unpalatable and by our human standards sinful.

 

Facts, in the view of Hinduism, are facts, even if the perpetrators are Gods themselves.

 

It may be Indra when he forcefully enjoyed Ahalya,Lord Rama when He killed Vaali by hiding behind a tree or Lord Krishna’s son who ridiculed Sages.

 

Rig Veda 10.110.5 Spacious doors remain wide open like beautiful wives for their husbands. O divine doors, great and all-impellers, be easy of access to the gods.Capture1

 

Yaska Acharya explains this verse as

Nirukta 8.10 ”Having spaciousness, make yourself wide open as exceedingly beautiful wives do their thighs for their husbands in sexual intercourse. The thighs are the most beautiful parts (of the body)…”

 

The next verse is even more obscene,

 

‘‘Just as a wife, the recipient of semen, at the time of cohabitation keeps her head opposite to the head of the husband, and her face opposite to that of his, so should both husband and wife perform together their domestic duties. A husband is a protector like a physician. He lives happily like a child, and with tranquillity produces progeny with penis keen with ardour.”- Yajur Veda 19.88, Tr. Devi Chand (Arya Samaj), p.215.

 

What is obscene  in describing the actual sex position?

 

Hinduism does nor  abhor sex for it knows it is Natural

 

As to the first portion of this quote, it is a simile .

 

“We read in newspaper about some Hindu scholars condemning homosexuality. But do they have any evidence that prohibits homosexuality in Hinduism? Hindu scholars fail to furnish any reference which condemns homosexuality but still some try to term homosexuality as irreligious act. Fortunately there are some Hindu scholars like Shri Shri Ravishankar who honestly accept such facts, below are two snapshots of his tweets

 

True.

 

Hinduism accepts LGBT.

 

What is wrong in it?

 

Please read my post on this.

 

Animal Sex.

Some protestant Hindus proudly promote Vedas as philosophical, free from all vulgarities. But in reality there is no limit for Vulgarity in Vedas. It even promotes sex with animals let alone adultery and pornography. Sex with animals in Hinduism is not a vulgar thing, Ancient Hindu temples like Khajuraho, Ajanta, Ellora clearly depicts men and girls having sex with animals.

 

”As a buffalo (Indra) desired the lusty female born from himself; the mena of the horse he made into the mother of the cow”- Rig Veda 1.121.2, Tr. Geldner.

 

Maharshi Yaska mentions a strange story about the birth of Asvins (the twin horsemen). The story says Saranyu was unwilling to have sex with Vivasvat and ran away but Vivasvat chased her and raped her. Yaska writes,

 

”Saranyu daughter of Tvastr bore twins, Yama and Yami, to Vivasvat the sun. She having substituted another lady of similar appearance, and having assumed the shape of a mare, ran away. He, Vivasvat, the sun, having also assumed the shape of a horse, pursued her, and joined her. Thence the Asvins were born. Manu was born from the lady of similar appearance.” Nirukta 12.10

 

In all these cases the perversions of Human Nature are exposed.

 

They are not promoted.

 

In these cases the individual has sex with the animals after assuming the form of the animal, there is no Human animal sex here.

 

The articles other points merit)?) the same rebuttal.

 

I forgot to add that some of the meanings are by western scholars(?) to malign Hinduism and promote Christianity.

 

Citation.

http://truthabouthinduism.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/there-is-indeed-obscenity-in-vedas/

 

Related.

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/tag/kausalya/

 

http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/incest-in-the-vedas/

 

 

God with Form, with and without, and Attributless Levels

In Hinduism on October 4, 2014 at 08:25

Hinduism, though the Vedas, the scripture of Hindus, declare that the Reality is with out Attributes, Nirguna.

 

The Reality is Nameless ans Formless.

 

However it also advocates the worship of the Forms.

 

This is because the Human mind is incapable of concentrating on a vacuum.

 

The Realization of the Supreme principle lies in realizing the Ultimate, Brahman, The Reality, the one with out Attributes.

 

Yoga system defines(Yoga means Union),Yoga as the cessation of the modifications of the Chitta, the thought waves.

 

Once removed of the thought waves  are removed, the Reality is realized .

 

We have numerous thought waves churning in our mind,

 

These have to be reduced gradually, they can not be removed at one stroke except by the very rare ones.

 

Others have to go step by step.

 

The though waves are present because of our attachment to objects of desire.

 

We desire them ;hate them;these produce thought waves,

 

If one focuses on an object of his desire, he becomes immersed in it.

 

Since human nature is to go after things that are to his/her liking, an image has been suggested.

 

This form may be that of a Mother, father, son, friend Man  or woman in terms of the qualities one expects.

 

One feels like sharing things with these , either people or a mental projection of these.

 

In this process one loses himself and this is the first step in realization of the Self.

 

Hinduism has these names with forms in three stages.

 

One without Attributes, the Nirguna Brahman, the Ultimate.

 

The worship of this ultimate is difficult.

 

So a step lower than this is devised.

 

And that is with Form yet without Form.

 

This is the symbol.

 

It is represented by the Shiv Linga.

 

This has a Form, in the form of a sign.

 

It also does not have a specific Features.

 

This is the Uruva Aruva worship ( Form yet with out Form)

 

Then comes another lower level.

 

This has a specific Name and Form.

 

As Devi, the Mother, Vishnu as father,Shiva as the Mentor, Subrahmanya , the child,Ganesha and the rest of the Hindu Pantheon.

 

Thus Hinduism guides an individual in the path of Realization by these easy steps in concentration.

 

1.Gods with names and Forms.

 

2.Reality with Form yet without It.

 

3.The Ultimate, without Attributes.

 

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