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Where Is The Reference To The Bible

In Hinduism on August 6, 2014 at 18:03

India and Hinsuim is pilloried for its tardiness in maintaing its History.

 

There  are no historical references, no continuity in Indian History nor any official crdible History.

 

This is the view among most of the Indians, that most of Indian History is a fable.

 

The west is not far from holding this view.

 

Is this a Fact?

 

Let us look at some facts.

 

1.References of Hindu Epics and The Veda are found in the literature that existed in the corresponding period where/when they came  into existence.

 

I have not used the term written as the Vedas, it is believed were not written and they were transmitted orally over Five Thousand Years.

 

 

The Mahabharata refers to the Ramayana.

 

 

The Puranas refer to both Ramayana and the Bible, not to speak of the Vedas.

 

All the literary works in India refer to the Vedas, Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

 

These are works belonging to the years before Christ.

 

2.Post Christ Era.

 

All the works in India refer to all of these at least in the two languages I know, Sanskrit and Tamil, of these Tamil is at least 500 year old.

 

Tamil works of the Sangam period which are t least 500 years older than the Bible quotes the Hindu Epics and the Vedas.

 

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Old Testament.

 

One of the major tools in determing the existence of a Literay work or event is the cross refernce in the  Text, refernce to it by works of the same period

and its refernce to it at least in the earliest succeeding work.

 

Hinduism fulfills these tests.

 

What about the Bible?

 

Bible is taken so seriously that people have fixed even time scale on Christ!

 

Has the Bible been referred to in the works of the same period or in the period immediately succeeding it?

 

I do not seem to find it anywhere.

 

Excepting Bible refrences in the non Cannonical texts of the Bible.

 

All the cannonical texts are taken as  a part of the Bible.

 

This is like Ramayana proving Ramyana in itself!-by taliking about it in The Ramayana.

 

And the Hebrew Bible called Hebrew Bible, also known as the Tanakh by Jews, is the earliest refernce to The Bible.

 

And the Tanakh is dated at  2 Century BC, that is 200 Years before Christ!

 

4.

“Perhaps the most obvious way that the Bible has inspired writers can be seen in the ways that works of literature actually retell stories found in the Bible. John Milton’s Paradise Lost, for example, retells the biblical fall of man in a long, epic poem, including Satan’s rebellion against God and Adam and Eve’s expulsion from Eden.

Similarly, John Steinbeck‘s East of Eden is roughly structured around the biblical story of Cain and Abel. Another example can be seen in C.S. Lewis’s The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Following the biblical story of God as the all-powerful savior, Lewis uses the Bible to create parts of his plot,   by especially with the return of King Aslan, which parallels Jesus’s return.

Other writers take images in the Bible and expand on them or use them as a setting, such as Dante, who used the Bible’s description of the afterlife to create an epic 3-volume poem that explores Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven, titled the Divine Comedy.”

 

 

And Dante’s period is  1265–1321 !, full 1200 Years after Christ.

 

Why there is no reference to The Bible at all in the earlier works between the Bible and the Divine Comedy?

 

 

Perhaps there was no literature!

 

3.The Bible should have been referred to corresponding literature of the same period.

 

I do not find any reference at all.

 

Now which History is credible?

 

Hinduism where Rama’s and Krishna’s dates have been proved,places mentioned have been identified, refernces to them are found every where in Indian Literature,in Japan,Cambodia, Laos,Lanka, Russia, Italy,Americas,and Africa or

 

The Bible and the western History?

 

 

http://education-portal.com/academy/lesson/the-bible-as-literary-influence-references-and-allusion.html#lesson

“Don’t Respect Other Religions” The Bible

In Christianity on June 26, 2014 at 08:19

 

If some one has a doubt that Christianity whether Christianity respects other Religions, here is quote and explanation from Edward D. Waller, Ph. D. in

Catholic News.

 

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Catholicism.

 

The statement and the article is directed at Protestants and those who are Non Catholics among the Christians.

 

If this is the attitude towards their sister groups,whom the consider as their mortal enemies, what is there to sa about other Religions?

 

 

If respecting other religions means to refrain from interfering with other people’s beliefs, then how do we reconcile Christ’s words to His apostles before ascending into Heaven? “

And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to Me in Heaven and in earth. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” (Matt.28:18-20)

Christ’s instructions were very clearly given to His apostles. They were commanded to teach ALL (not some) nations ALL things (not some things) whatsoever Christ had commanded them to teach. That is, Christ gave them the revealed truth and all His doctrines. The apostles were not told to respect those nations or beliefs that held different beliefs from Christ’s teachings. Even Christ professed Truth to the elite Rabbis who rejected not only His teachings, but Christ as Son of God. Christ was crucified on the cross because He did not compromise His teachings

 

Is it possible to consider worthy of high regard or esteem other religious beliefs that are contradictions to the Truth found within the Roman Catholic Church? Should we respect religions that allow polygamy, deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ, deny original sin and the Immaculate Conception? Should we respect beliefs of others that allow divorce, abortion and permit homosexuality as a lifestyle?

How can TRUE Catholics hold these beliefs in high regard or esteem and call themselves followers of Christ? As a Catholic I should respect my fellow brothers and sisters. I can hold human beings in high regard and esteem because each one of us has been created in the image and likeness of God. Jesus gave us the commandment to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and to love our neighbor as ourselves. He did not tell us to love sin or beliefs that contradict His teachings. Thus, I will not elevate with high regard or esteem any religion or belief that contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Pope Pius XII states in the same encyclical, “…God has given to His Church a living Teaching Authority to elucidate and explain what is contained in the deposit of faith only obscurely and implicitly. This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church.” He further states that Christ appointed the Church as “guardian and interpreter of the whole deposit of divinely revealed truth”.

God did not send His only begotten Son into the world to establish a multiple of religions equally meriting salvation. If this were the case, there would have been no need for Christ to die on the cross, for all religions would have been equally pleasing to God. Christ came to establish His Church which contains the WHOLE deposit of divinely revealed truth which is the ONLY means to salvation. The present post-conciliar Church has silenced the doctrine of “No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church” as a means of promoting false ecumenism which attempts to establish respect for all religions.

I can not understand how Catholics could fall for such nonsense. Are they unaware that a doctrine can never be revoked. A doctrine is a revealed truth through God that can NEVER change. God is pure Truth and can never deceive us. Only man and the serpent are capable of deceptive ploys.

Pope Pius XII reiterates this doctrine very clearly and precisely. “Some say they are not bound by the doctrine which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian faith. These and like ERRORS, it is clear, have crept in among certain of our sons who are deceived by imprudent zeal for souls or by false science.”..

Since the Second Vatican Council, there has been great emphasis on ecumenism or unity among all religions. We are now hearing from all levels within the Roman Catholic Church that we must RESPECT all religions. We are told that we must refrain from forcing our beliefs onto others. We are told that all religions hold some truth that may lead to salvation of souls. What we have not been told is that this notion is UTTER NONSENSE and contrary to our traditional faith.

In the encyclical, Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII warns the faithful about false “irenics” (ecumenism). He states: “Another danger is perceived which is all the more concealed beneath the mask of virtue. There are many who, deploring disagreement among men and intellectual confusion, through an imprudent zeal for souls, are urged by a great and ardent desire to do away with the barrier that divides good and honest men; these advocate an ‘irenism’ according to which, by setting aside the questions which divide men, they aim not only at joining forces to repel the attack of atheism, but also at reconciling things opposed to one another in the field of dogma.

“…But some through enthusiasm for an imprudent ‘irenism’ seem to consider as an obstacle to the restoration of fraternal union things founded on the laws and principles given by Christ and likewise on institutions founded by Him, or which are the defense and support of the integrity of the faith, and the removal of which would bring about the union of all, but only to their destruction.

“In theology some want to reduce to a minimum the meaning of dogmas: and to free dogma itself from terminology long established in the Church and from philosophical concepts held by Catholic teachers … They cherish the hope that when dogma is stripped of the elements which they hold to be extrinsic to divine revelation, it will compare advantageously with the dogmatic opinions of those who are separated from the unity of the Church and that in this way they will gradually arrive at a mutual assimilation of Catholic dogma with the tenets of the dissidents.

“Moreover they assert that when Catholic doctrine has been reduced to this condition, a way will be found to satisfy modern needs, that will permit dogma being expressed also by the concepts of modern philosophy … Some more audaciously affirm that this can and must be done, because they hold that the mysteries of faith are never expressed by truly adequate concepts but only by approximate and ever changeable notions, in which the truth is to some extent expressed, but is necessarily distorted.”

 “A person sins against faith, first, by not trying to know what God has taught; second, by refusing to believe all that God has taught; third, by neglecting to profess his belief in what God has taught.”

(Baltimore Catechism No. 4, p. 265) False worship is a sin against the First Commandment. “And now that we have the real sacrifice it would be sinful to use only figures, (as in other religions) and it would be a false worship displeasing to God …So, too, all those who leave the true Church to practice a religion of their own have a false worship, for they worship God not as He wants, but as they wish” (Baltimore Catechism No. 4, p. 261).

Citation.

http://www.olrl.org/doctrine/respect.shtml

How To Worship Without Christ and Satan

In Christianity, Hinduism on June 15, 2014 at 18:48

 

Over the past few weeks I have received eight mails to my personal ID, asking me whether they would go to Hell if the y do not worship Jesus Christ and partake in Holy Communion.

 

The next question is what Religion they should follow.

 

Which God one should worship?

 

Does Hinduism allow people to convert to another Religion?

 

Can they return t Hinduism again?

 

I have reproduced a comment received for my post Who is a Hindu?FAQs.

 

This more or less sums all the questions addressed to me.

 

Before I answer let me add this post about Christianity and Christian bashing for it is not my job till they attack Hinduism.

 

I have replied suitably when it is warranted.

 

In this case it is not so.

 

It is rather the effect the Christian preachers spreading Fear psychosis among the weak.

 

The questions..

 

 

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Om of Hinduism.

Dear Sir, Is any caste superior compared to others.To whom we should pray and offer our rituals.If God exist then it is obvious Satan also exist,and if anybody is possesed by a devil, then who is the right deity who can deliver us from all evil. Christians claim that only Jesus can relieve you provided you convert,take baptism be approved to take bread & wine(holy body and blood of christ,to get completely cured of all evil possesion.Otherwise they say if you don’t convert the satan will strike again and again.Do you believe in black magic? I want a solution because i have seen such situation when doctors themselves say this is exhorcism and out of our control,pray to God? Iam a hindu,please suggest?”

 

This is the result of the preachers of Christianity who scream and shout in their meetings scaring people making them believe that they are exorcising

ghosts.

 

Give the fellow a peg, he hall laugh it off.

 

I have seen this personally.

 

Time the Government took action on these people for establishing individuals and disturbing mental peace.

 

1.Is any Caste Superior to others?

 

No. It is the quality of character, discipline and selflessness that determines a Caste.

 

It is Human Nature to feel proud when one is noticed because of His good Character.

 

Such people must learn humility.

 

 

2.Whom should we offer Rituals? Which Religion to follow and which God to worship?

 

Religion is a question of one;s personal faith.

 

One is free to follow any faith any God one likes and feels comfortable with.

 

Important point is that if you follow one Religion , you should be steadfast in it.

 

Frequent changes would weaken the mind.

 

 

Worship the god your Religion tells you.

 

If you are a Hindu, continue worshiping what your parents worshiped , Your family Deity or the God you like among those in Hinduism.

 

Follow the Rituals that were followed by your ancestors.

 

3.Existence of Satan.

 

It is wrong to conclude that if God exists Satan must exist.

 

This misinformation is the result Christianity.

 

This is logically not tenable.

 

If Satan exists along with God, who is supposed to be Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omniscient then you ae limiting the power of God as the existence of

 

Satan will limit God’s attributes described here.

 

I shall be posting an article as to how the existence of two Realities is not tenable.

 

But, yes, there are evil tendencies and spirits.

 

They are not equal to God.

 

And one can conquer these by following some practices.

 

Please refer my posts on this  subject

 

If you happen to be a Christian you may follow what Christianity says.

 

That only Christ can redeem is  non sense.

 

What has happened to people who were born before Christ was born?

 

All of them were doomed to hell?

 

What sort of God is one who punishes who does not believe Him?

 

Is He so mean?

 

If yes, he can not be God.

 

About Baptism.

 

If one will be redeemed only by Baptism in Christianity, who Baptized  St.John , who is reported to have baptized Christ?

 

If John was not baptized, he could not have been a Christian.

 

One must remember the Bible was compiled three hundred years after the Death of Jesus Christ.

 

As to my belief in Black magic, yes I do.

 

I am also aware of  how to ward it off.

 

Do not worry.

 

Most of the evil possessions are (not all) are expressions of Psychoneurosis and can be cured by visiting a good Psychiatrist .

 

A word to those who get influenced by the ‘Preachers ‘ of Christianity.

 

These chaps have to make a Living.

 

They act and dance to promote their welfare.

 

None of these guys I know have any idea of Philosophy.

 

Their Philosophy is “Money’

 

Image credit.

 

http://theecstaticpresentation.com/Gurdjieff/Hindu.html

 

Nude Worship Church Allows

In Christianity on February 13, 2014 at 08:51

Christians make fun of Nude worship in Hinduism, which is practiced rarely in Tantric System.

It is a special spiritual discipline, calling forth enormous discipline and has very strong reasoning behind it.

But the Church is allowing now Nude worship because of the simple reason that Jesus was born Naked?

As if every one else is born fully clothed.

Read and enjoy.

Christianity allows Nude worship?

Nude worship Chrch

A church in the US state of Virginia has taken the bizarre decision to allow its congregation to attend services in the nude.

Pastor Allen Parker, the leader of White Tail Chapel in the town of Southampton, said he came to the decision to allow naked worship after concluding the clothing requirements of other churches were overly ‘pretentious’, and decided his own flock should be free to forgo such materialism if they desire.

He believes he is in good company too, claiming many of the most important moments in the Bible happened while the protagonists were nude, including Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection.

 

Mr Parker is believed to have drawn at least some of his opinions on nudity from the book of Genesis, in which Adam and Eve were originally described as ‘both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed’.

Church Nude worship.

Marriage: The White Tail Chapel even hosts naked weddings. One couple to opt for the nude service were Robert and Katie Church Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556548/And-naked-not-ashamed-Church-allows-nude-worship.html#ixzz2tAWNBAxH Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

It was only after sinfully eating forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge that Adam and Even are said to have seen their nudity as shameful, at which point they sowed fig leaves into loincloths.

Although the church allows worshipers to attend services fully naked, many have decided they would rather continue to attend fully clothed, particuarly when in mid-winter, while others opt to just reveal their breasts or genitals.

The idea is that nudity is ‘the great equaliser’, reminding all those gathered in the church that they are simple human beings and that, beneath any personal wealth or glamorous outward appearance, they are all more of less the same beneath the clothing.

Source:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556548/And-naked-not-ashamed-Church-allows-nude-worship.html

 

 

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Naked Christ, Christianity Renaissance Photo Essay

In Christianity on December 19, 2013 at 18:37

I read in the Newyorker about Jesus Christ being depicted Nude, based on renaissance paintings.

A look into this.

Jesus with women

Jesus Painting

 

Jesus rising from a Coffin?

Resurrected Jesus

Jesus as  New Born

Christ as New Born

 

Madonna and Cherubs.

“Madonna and Child with Two Cherubs,” by Pietro Perugino (1495

Leo Steinberg published “The Sexuality of Christ in Renaissance Art and in Modern Oblivion,” a book that does much to explain the connection between Pope Francis’s passionate devotion to the poor and afflicted and his seeming openness to gay Catholics. In “The Sexuality of Christ,” Steinberg argues that as a result of the rise of the Franciscan order, around 1260, an emphasis on Christ’s nakedness, and, thus, on his humanity, joined compassion to an acceptance of the role of sexuality in human life.

A credo of the Franciscan order was nudus nudum Christum sequi (“follow naked the naked Christ”). It was a radical call to cast aside worldly wealth and belongings and acknowledge the fragile, fallen nature of all men and women. But in casting aside Christ’s garments, the Franciscans made Christ’s nude body a focal point. As a result, according to Steinberg, from about the middle of the thirteenth century until the sixteenth century artists lavished particular care on Christ’s penis, the part of Christ’s body that made him most mortal, and which proved his union with humankind. “One must recognize,” wrote Steinberg, “anostentatio genitalium comparable to the canonic ostentatio vulnerum, the showing forth of the wounds.”

* Bellini.
Giovanni Bellini was an Italian Renaissance painter, probably the best known of the Bellini family of Venetian painters. His father was Jacopo Bellini, his brother was Gentile Bellini, and his brother-in-law was Andrea Mantegna. He is considered to have revolutionized Venetian painting, moving it towards a more sensuous and coloristic style. Through the use of clear, slow-drying oil paints, Giovanni created deep, rich tints and detailed shadings. His sumptuous coloring and fluent, atmospheric landscapes had a great effect on the Venetian painting school, especially on his pupils Giorgione and Titian.Giovanni Bellini was probably born in Venice. He was brought up in his father’s house, and always lived and worked in the closest fraternal relation with his brother Gentile. Up until the age of nearly thirty we find in his work a depth of religious feeling and human pathos which is his own. His paintings from the early period are all executed in the old tempera method; the scene is softened by a new and beautiful effect of romantic sunrise color

Sources.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/12/pope-francis-and-the-naked-christ.html

http://maherartgallery.blogspot.in/2013/04/giovanni-bellini-1430-1516early.html

 

 

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