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Valmiki A Siddha Fore Runner In Tamil Sangam

In Hinduism, Tamils on November 26, 2014 at 09:26

I have been researching into the affinity between two great Languages of India, Sanskrit and Tamil.

 

Tamil ,recent researches indicate is about 17,000 years old and it quotes Sanskrit in its earliest works.

 

Sanskrit in its turn quotes Tamil!

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Valmiki Maharishi

 

Please read my post million Year old Tamil Quotes Vedas and They quote Tamil.

 

References to  Tamil, Tamil Culture, Tamil Kings are found in the Vedas,Puranas,Ramayana and Mahabharata.

 

Curiously no other language is referred to in these Sanskrit Texts.

 

There are references to Valmiki in Tamil.

 

Valmiki is referred to as Vanmiki,in Tamil the letter L and N are interchangeable under certain Grammar rules.

 

There is a work by Valmiki called Vanmikatpathinaaru, sixteen verses of Valmiki.

 

Valmiki is classified among the Siddhas along with Bogar, who installed the Idol of Lord Subrahmanya in Palani in Tamil Nadu .

 

One of the  major differences between Valmiki as a Siddha and others Valmiki advocates the study of the Vedas, the Siddhas to Ignore and go beyond the Vedas.

 

The theme in the 16 verses of the Valmiki Sixteen is different from the themes of all other works of other Siddhas. All others praise lord Shiva as the Ultimate God who blesses one with Moksha. But Valmiki differs from them. In the very first verse of Valmiki Sixteen, he says that Shiv Shakti emerged from Vishnu, the Consort of Sri / Lakshmi.

சிவசக்தி திருமாலின் ரூபமாகும்.

வருமுருவே சிவசக்தி வடிவமாகும்

This concept is radically different from the concept of other Siddhas. This is conceded by the poet Valmiki himself in subsequent verses. He mentions in the 11th verse that seeing his concept to be different, other Siddhas complained to Lord Shiva. Poet Valmiki says further, that Shiva was angry with those Siddhas only. His theme (of Vishnu being the Primary force from which Shiva- Shakthi emerged) conveyed in these poems were regarded as the key (to understand all poems of all other Siddhas.

 

சிவசிவா பதினெண்பேர் பாடற் கெல்லாம்
திறவுகோல் வால்மீகன் பதினாறாகும்:
சிவம்பெத்த சித்தரேல்லா மென்னூல் பார்த்துச்
சிவனோடே கோள் சொன்னார் சினந்தான் நாதன்:
அவமாகிப் போகாமல் சிவனுத் தார
அருளினால் திறந்து சொன்னேன் உலகுக்காக:
நவமான நவக்கிரகம் தன்னுளேயே
நாக்கு வாய் செவி மூக்கு மத்திக்கப்பால். (11)

 

நாக்கு வாய் செவி மூக்கு மத்திக் கப்பால்
நடுவீதி குய்ய முதல் உச்சி தொட்டுத்
தாக்குவாய் அங்கென்ற அதிலே முட்டுத்
தாயாரைப் பூசித்து வேதம் ஓது: (12)

 

While the other Siddhas preached to forsake Vedas, this poet Valmiki preached that people must to chant Vedas. In addition  he says that Vedas should be pursued after worshiping Divine Mother.”

 

Valmiki, according to Tamil, wrote three works,

Ramayana in Sanskrit,

Vanmikiipathinaaru, Sixteen verses of Valmiki,  and

a Poem in Puranaanooru in Tamil.

 

He also participated in the Tamil Sangam.

 

He commanded so much respect for his scholarship in Tamil , that the earliest Tamil Grammar work in Tamil, Tholkaapiyam, quotes his works, along with that of Lord Shiva as Primary Tamil Education.

Tamil was classified into Primary,Intermediary and Secondary.

 

This is the poem.

 

தமிழ்ச் செய்யுட் கண்ணும் இறையனாரும்,  

அகத்தியனாரும்,  

மார்க்கண்டேயனாரும்,

வான்மீகனாரும்,  

கவுதமனாரும் போலார் செய்தன தலை”

 

Meaning.

The primary education in Tamil must be from the works of,

 

Lord Shiva,

Agasthya,

Markandeya,

Valmiki and

Gautama.

Lord Shiva is presumed to have founded the Tamil language and he presided over the First Tamil Sangam, the Conclave of Tamil Scholars.

 

Valmiki participated in it.

 

There are two temples associated with Valmiki in Tamil Nadu.

 

Marundheeswarar Temple, Thiruvanmiyur, Chennai, where Valmiki is worshiped.

 

The other temple is Ettukkudi, a Murugan Sthala where Valmiki is reported to have died and his samadhi is found there.

 

Siddhas speak of Valmiki in their works quite frequently and indicate he was also well versed in Medicine.

 

Dates of Ramayana and Sangam.

adding up the years of the 3 sangam periods to this last year of the last sangam at 2000 years BP, we arrive at the following years.

 

3rd sangam started around 1850 BC.

2nd sangam started around 5550 BC

1st sangam started around 9990 BC.”

 

This is in agreement with the premise that Valmiki indeed wrote in Tamil and participated in he Tail Sangam.

 

Citation.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2013/03/valmiki-of-ramayana-knew-tamil-spoken.html

Ravana Signed Peace Treaty With Tamil Pandya King

In Hinduism, Tamils on November 25, 2014 at 08:47

Two ancient languages of India, Sanskrit and Tamil talk of The Ramayana and Mahabharata.

 

Sanskrit and Tamil quote each other that it well-nigh impossible to know which is earlier.

 

The Stargate of Ravana

Ravana’s Stargate

 

Ramayana was written by Valmiki in Sanskrit and was extensively quoted by ancient Tamil Literature, some as old as five thousand years.

 

There is also evidence to suggest that Valmiki knew Tamil and wrote Tamil Vanmikakovai.

 

Post on Was Valmiki a Tamil?, follows.

 

The Ramayana speaks of Ravana as a Rakshasa.

 

He is also described as Asura, meaning a man of immense Strength and Valor.

 

The Rakshasas, according to Puranas, lived down south, an allegory that they lived south of the Vindhyas.

 

There are references to Kumari Kandam, a Super Continent, of which Lanka formed a part.

 

The three kings of South India had close contacts with the kings of Lanka.

 

To such an antiquity that Ravana, who was engaged in stirring trouble in the Pandya Kingdom.

 

He was reported to have been checked by a Pandya King and Ravana sued for Peace.

 

This has been found in the Chinnamanur inscriptions, Tamil Nadu.

 

“The Sanskrit portion of the bigger Sinnamanur plates begins with a fragmentary verse in which the king (perhaps Pandya) boasts of having subdued the ocean — an attribute which the mythical Pandya kings generally assumed in consequence, perhaps, of their sea-bordering kingdom, their naval power, and their sea-borne trade, from the earliest historical times. From him were descended the kings known as Pandyas (v. 2) ‘who engraved their edicts on the Himalaya mountain’ and whose family-priest was the sage Agastya (v. 3). One of the Pandya kings is said to have occupied the throne of Indra (v. 4) and another to have shared it with that god, and still another, to have caused the Ten-Headed (i.e., Ravana of Lanka) to sue for peace (v. 5). One was a conqueror of the epic hero Arjuna       Verse 8 refers to a king who cut off his own head in order to protect that of his master and also to a certain Sundara-Pandya who had mastered all the sciences. Many kings of this family had performed Vedic sacrifices Rajasuya and Asvamedha (v. 9).”

 

“Pathupattu in Tamil (Ten long poems) has ten books and one of them is Maduraikanchi. This very long poem has a reference to Ravana (lines 40-42).”

* I am unable to vouch this as these lines do not see to refer Ravana.

“தொள் முது கடவுள் பின்னர் மேய,
வரைத் தாழ் அருவிப் பொருப்பின் பொருந!”

 

The above is from Madurai Kanchi,a Sangam Literary work, there seems to be no reference to Ravana here.

 

Comments welcome.

 

There are references by Nachinarkiniyar, a Tamil Commentator of the Sanga Era on Agsthya and Ravana.

 

And there is a reference by Kalidasa in Raghuvamsa.

 

(This raises the question about Kalidasa’a Date)

 

““Pandya wore pearl garlands and sandal paste. He was soaked in Avabrutha Snanam during Asvamedha yajna. Ravana was so scared that Pandya may attack and capture his Janasthana (in Dandakaranya), so he made a peace treaty with the Pandya king and then went to win Indraloka. Pandya was praised for receiving a weapon (Brahmsiras) from Lord Shiva.

 

Citation.

http://tamilandvedas.com/2014/06/24/ravana-pandya-peace-treaty-kalidasa-solves-a-tamil-puzzle/

 

http://www.whatisindia.com/inscriptions/south_indian_inscriptions/volume_3/copper_plates_at_tirukkalar.html

 

Dangers Of Google Search Health Conditions

In Health on November 24, 2014 at 11:41

Recently I came across two instances where Google search becomes dangerous.

 

In one instance, a Girl of about, settled in the US, was eating Dumpling in a Restaurant with her colleagues.

 

The dish was quite hot.

 

TMJ jpeg

TMJ condition

 

While engaged in conversation with her friends, shed did not notice it was hot and popped it her mouth.

 

It was so hot that as a reflex action swallowed it instead of spitting it out.

 

The piece got stuck in her throat, she could not speak,swallow, her face turned bluish and she could not breathe.

 

People around her did not notice it, but some one near by noticed it and gave her a slap in her back and she swallowed it.

 

Otherwise she would have choked herself to death.

 

Air Marshall Mukherjee of Indian Air force died this way aboard an aircraft this way.

 

But this post is not about the dangers of eating with out some basic precautions, while engaged in conversation.

 

( Hinduism forbids speech/conversion while eating).

 

The girl being educated a web addict searched Google for her condition, symptoms.

 

She found a lot of cases where the writers have expressed their problems of not being able to touch food for months because of Fear.

 

The girl got scared and abstained from eating for a week, when some one told her harshly to eat and ate normally.

 

In another instance, a girl searched Google for pain in the cheek, Jaws and got landed with people writing about symptoms of TMJ, where some one has written that  she has the condition for twenty years, in incurable pain and had been under Streiod(?) medication , which has complicated the issues by adding Insomnia to the list.

 

And this girl has started doing the rounds with the doctors , starting from Dentist,ENT specialist, Neurologist,Neurosurgeon and took FBC ( Full Blood Count) Test,urine Culture, Sputum and Stools.

 

All the parameters were normal.

 

The girl started imagining she has some disease hat would stay with her for Life and she would lose her sanity!

 

She did not sleep for two days, not more than 5 Hours a day.

 

She now imagines she has Insomnia and wanted to meet with a Psychiatric Counselor.

 

Having studied Psychology and known what this is about I forbid her.

 

I scolded her very rudely , counseled her and she is alright now.

 

Lessons.

 

1.Medicine is an evolving Science, if not exact.

 

Doctors proceed from Symptoms to disease and not the other way around.

 

One symptom may be indicative of any disease, some of them serious, some worth ignoring.

 

By trial and error or experience or both, Doctors diagnose.

 

It is foolish to replace a Doctor with Internet search.

 

Still worse is to reading fro among the first twenty or so results in Google search.

 

I find people normally taking the first two or three results of Google search as Gospel.

 

Nothing can be more wrong.

 

Authentic information need not appear in the first results.

 

The first page search results are determined not by so much by the  correctness of the information  but by keywords, the search term used, and then the number of times the article has been read.

 

If the initial query has been incorrect, the site has used the correct key words though wrong information, the results will appear in the first twenty results.

 

Therefore the first results in Google search need not be correct.

 

Again unless you know the fundamentals of medicine do not read internet, whatever the site says it is.

 

And remember our Body is the best system in the world to rectify itself.

 

Do not brood over illnesses, consult a Doctor , have faith in him and follow his advice.

 

Take tie in finding out a general physician who does not prescribe you medicine at the drop of a hat, or who sends you for a lot of tests even for a small thing.

 

And stick with him.

 

Such a doctor need not be expensive.

 

I go to a doctor who is at least 50 years old, who checks me up physically, allows my body to heal without resorting to heavy dosage and one who is cal and not in a hurry.

 

 

 

 

 

Cold Fever Stomach Illness in Children Safe Sure Remedies

In Health on November 23, 2014 at 07:55

I have four grand children from 90 days to six years .

 

I have found that even for a slight indisposition of the children, they tend to rush immediately to Pediatrician  and the funniest part is that the child has to get an appointment, some time after seven or eight hours of the illness being reported,

 

The problem with infants , children is that some times the child,infant can not be left unattended for illness for such long periods, especially if they have high fever or diarrhea.

 

Child with Cold.jpg

Child with Cold.

 

Immediate action has to be taken.

 

The Allopathy system treats symptoms and most of the medicines, including the anti biotics have guaranteed side effects, while the cure is not assured.

 

For cough, medicine is prescribed to  suppress cough and anti biotics which are heavy are prescribed.

 

While the former gives one feeling of the illness is cured, the latter leaves problems, at least in respect of bowel movements.

 

Sere the Siddha medicine solves the problem.

 

These medicines do not have any side effects , they  are natural foods and are available at  Indian Homes.

 

For Colic(Stomach ache), Constipation.

 

Give a cup of warm milk before bedtime with one teaspoon of ghee added to it.

Provide a natural laxative foods such as soaked raisins or dates, honey, bran, sesame seeds, mango, papaya, grapes, and fresh figs.

Inculcate proper eating habits and food combining when possible, sufficient water intake, high quality oils, and providing plenty of high fiber foods can be helpful in the prevention of constipation.

In the case of infants, the mother can apply a small amount of castor oil to her nipple before breastfeeding.

For babies with intestinal colic, mix equal parts of Cumin, Fennel, and Coriander powder and add 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of this mixture to a cup of hot water, let it steep for 15 to 20 minutes, then strain well.

The mother can also drink it to reduce the qualities of vata in her breast milk.

In the case of infants, it is useful to administer the tea with a baby medicine dropper, available in most baby supply sections, and dilute it a little, if needed, to make it more palatable

 

For Colds, Fever.

Cold.

Yashtimadhu (Licorice root) and a little raw honey it helps liquefy and expectorate phlegm.

 

Make a Paste of the root, about half a teaspoon, ix it with Honey and give the child, till the cough subsides.

 

Or take a Nutmeg, Jathikkai, make a paste, small quantity of paste, by rubbing it out with a little quantity of water.apply this mixture on both the sides of the nose.

 

Running nose will stop immediately.

 

For chest congestion or restricted breathing.

Warm  sesame oil, or ghee with a pinch of rock or black salt, can be massaged onto the chest followed by a eucalyptus steam inhalation. Tulsi (Holy basil) works wonders for soothing coughs, decongesting the lungs and sinuses, as well as lowering a fever by promoting sweating. Tulsi tea can be prepared by adding1 teaspoon of Tulsi powder to 1 cup of hot water. This can also be given before bedtime to break a fever when nothing else works.

 

Fever.

A remarkable home remedy for lowering fever consists in rubbing fresh onion juice to the child’s navel region while applying a cool cloth to the forehead to protect the brain.

 

One can apply a paste made of turmeric powder and war gingelly oil on the forehead.

 

For Rashes,including Diaper rashes.

 

One of the best remedies for this is to add 1 to 2 teaspoons of Kumari (Aloe vera) juice into the baby’s drinking water.

 

For Deworming and clearing Parasites.

 

A simple household remedy for worms like thread, pin, and round worms, is to take 3 to 5 drops of fresh onion juice diluted in one teaspoon of water 3 times daily.

 

Two or three tender leaves of Neem tree may be made and given to the child, either directly or with warm water.

 

 

 

 

 

Intriguing Facts Multi Verses Parallel Verses Hinduism

In Hinduism on November 19, 2014 at 23:46

Time travel illustration with parallel univers...

Time travel illustration with parallel universe hypothesis (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

There is a fine distinction between the Parallel and Multi Verses.

 

Here it is,

 

At first blush it seems crazy — or at least that was my own initial reaction. When cosmologists talk about “the multiverse,” it’s a slightly poetic term. We really just mean different regions of spacetime, far away so that we can’t observe them, but nevertheless still part of what one might reasonably want to call “the universe.” In inflationary cosmology, however, these different regions can be relatively self-contained — “pocket universes,” as Alan Guth calls them. When you combine this with string theory, the emergent local laws of physics in the different pocket universes can be very different; they can have different particles, different forces, even different numbers of dimensions. So there is a good reason to think about them as separate universes, even if they’re all part of the same underlying spacetime.

The situation in quantum mechanics is superficially entirely different. Think of Schrödinger’s Cat. Quantum mechanics describes reality in terms of wave functions, which assign numbers (amplitudes) to all the various possibilities of what we can see when we make an observation. The cat is neither alive nor dead; it is in a superposition of alive + dead. At least, until we observe it. In the simplistic Copenhagen interpretation, at the moment of observation the wave function “collapses” onto one actual possibility. We see either an alive cat or a dead cat; the other possibility has simply ceased to exist. In the Many Worlds or Everett interpretation, both possibilities continue to exist, but “we” (the macroscopic observers) are split into two, one that observes a live cat and one that observes a dead one. There are now two of us, both equally real, never to come back into contact.

These two ideas sound utterly different. In the cosmological multiverse, the other universes are simply far away; in quantum mechanics, they’re right here, but in different possibility spaces (i.e. different parts of Hilbert space,”

 

That is to say that there are many Universes operating simultaneously with our Space Time but operating under its own Laws, including Physical Laws.

 

In the Parallel Universe there are number of possibilities with regard to what we perceive, as what we see is what we would like to see, that is the Reality or the real thing is altered by our Perception or even the very attempt changes the nature of the thing we would like to perceive.

Please read my post(In Astrophysics) on this where I have provided information and Video how what we see is affected by our attempt to perceive it.

 

This is the essential difference  according to latest thoughts on the subject.

 

What does Hinduism say on this?

 

1.That there is only one Reality, Brahman, and there are many Parallel Universes for our Perception.

 

Ekam Sath , Vipra Bahutha Vadanthi’

 

Reality is One, but It is Perceived as Many by the Discerning.

 

Discerning is he near equivalent word for the Sanskrit term for Vipra, though it is translated as the Learned by many.

 

The Context in which the sentence is formed lends support to my view.

 

The Many are Illusory in Nature depending on the level of Ignorance one has of the Reality.

 

The same world, event appears different to different people, depending on one’s Disposition, Swabhava.

 

This applies our level as well as to others.

 

As much as the Reality appears different to different people in our level, there are also other levels, Multi verse where the same Reality is perceived as many by many depending on their dispositions, Swabhava.

 

We, at our plane of Existence ,are aware of only our Swabhava, Dispoitions not the others’ at other levels of existence.

 

So according to Hinduism,there are Multi verses that operate under different levels on par or at the same time(for our reference I am mentioning this).

 

Hence Multi verses co-exist with ours.

 

2.In this sense Parallel verse and the Multi verses exist simultaneously.

 

In the former, at our level of existence we have many possible worlds depending on our intent to perceive.

 

Also the Multi verse do have their Parallel verses depending on the ability of those who inhabit them to perceive.

 

So there are many Multiverses in each of the possible , including ours.

 

3.This raises some interesting possibilities.

 

a) If one were to go back in Time and sees himself in the past, what does it belong to?

 

Parallel or Multiverse?

 

b) Again, according to Hinduism Rebirth is certain.

 

Let us look some example.

 

I am 64 now.

 

I should have died at least sixty four years ago.

 

My children int he past birth must have cremated, buried my body and religious ceremonies should have been performed( It might nor have been performed as well).

 

Hinduism states that the effect of these ceremonies , like Sraddha reach the deceased.

 

And they should have reached me.

 

How does it affect my present Life?

 

Post follows.

Citation.

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2011/05/26/are-many-worlds-and-the-multiverse-the-same-idea/

 

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