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Forgive Confessed Gay Priest God Forgets Pope

In Christianity on July 30, 2013 at 06:38

The present Pope Francis, as has been rightly called, makes changes without changing anything..

In a chat with reporters he mas made some remarks  amply expose the dilemma of the Church on Homo Sexuality.

It would be better to accept the fact that Homosexuality is as old as Christianity, if not older;The Bible records Homosexuality;Homosexuality is being accepted slowly now.

But the line must be drawn to distinguish between consensual Homo Sexuality and Forced one, especially Sodomy practiced by the Priests.

But the question is.

Would the Pope use the same logic in the case of Rapes and Pedophiles?

The Pope on Gay Priests

Pope Francis said Monday that he won’t “judge” gay priests, which Vatican analysts say may be the opening for a more conciliatory attitude toward gay members of the church.

On the papal plane on the way back from Brazil, the pope took questions from the press corps (a sign that John Allen, of New Catholic Reportersuggests is indicative of Francis’ good mood). Among many questions, he was asked about the power of the “gay lobby” in the Vatican and recent accusations of homosexual activity by Battista Ricca, the prelate of the Vatican Bank. The Pope took this opportunity speak more generally about homosexuality.

As has been widely reported, he said (in Italian), “Who am I to judge a gay person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?” He noted that the problem with the “gay lobby,” if it exists, is not that these people are gay, but that they are a lobby (i.e. that the Vatican is a tangled web of pressure groups and rivalries). Finally, he chided the press for focusing on the alleged homosexual acts of Ricca, distinguishing them from the criminal matters like sexual predation on children. Criminals should be punished, but if Ricca sinned, then confessed, he must be forgiven. “When the Lord forgives,” the Pope said, “the Lord forgets.”

Francis said, according to a preliminary transcript released by the Vatican), to the role of women in the church (“On the ordination of women, the church has spoken and said no,” the pope said), to whether or not Dec. 8 will indeed be the date in which Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II would be canonized

“The problem is all the people who will want to come from Poland … many will take buses and by December the roads are iced. We have to rethink the date,” he said.

But by far, Francis’ most attention-grabbing statements came when asked about Italina media reports of a “gay lobby” inside the Vatican.

“When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby,” the pope said. “If they accept the Lord and have good will, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency (to be homosexual) is not the problem. They are our brothers.”

  1. CAN YOU ENVISION JESUS SAYING THAT?

    The mantra of many believers in Christ is “Water baptism is important, however, it is not essential for any ones salvation.”
    Can you envision Jesus saying that?

    What if all the creed books, all the Bible commentaries, and other books written about Bible were destroyed? What if the source for truth you had was the Bible and the Bible alone, then, what would you believe was the purpose of water baptism? Would you still believe that water baptism was not essential for salvation?

    THE BIBLE

    Ephesians 5:25-26…as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for it, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, (NKJV)

    Ephesians 5:25-26….as Christ showed to the church when he died for her, 26 to make her holy and clean, washed by baptism and God’s word; (The Living Bible—Paraphrased)

    Ephesians 5:25-26 ….as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, (NASB)

    Can you imagine Jesus saying, “Water baptism is not essential to salvation?”

    Acts 22:16 ‘And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’ (NKJV)

    Acts 22:16 And now, why delay? Go and be baptized, and be cleansed from your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’ (The Living Bible —Paraphrased)

    Acts 22:16 Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’ (NASB)

    Can you envision Jesus saying, “Saul your sins were washed away three days ago on the road to Damascus, water baptism is not essential to salvation?”

    Acts 2:38….let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins;….. (NKJV)

    Acts 2:38 And Peter replied, “Each one of you must turn from sin, return to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; then you also shall receive this gift, the Holy Spirit. (The Living Bible— Paraphrased)

    Acts 2:38 …each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christfor the forgiveness of your sins….. (NASB)

    Can you envision Jesus saying, “Water baptism is not essential to forgiveness of sins?”

    Mark 16:16 …..and is baptized will be saved… (NKJV)

    Mark 16:16…. and are baptized will be saved… (The Living Bible—Paraphrased)

    Mark 16:16 …..and has been baptized shall be saved… (NASB)

    Can you imagine Jesus saying, “Water baptism is important but not essential to salvation?”

    IF YOU ONLY HAD THE BIBLE, WHAT WOULD YOU BELIEVE?

    Creed books, Bible commentaries, and all other books explaining the Bible are not the infallible word of God. They are not God’s inerrant message to all mankind. Why would you not simply trust the Bible and the Bible alone for God’s truth given to mankind?

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