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‘No Heaven..Some thing Out of Nothing’-Hawking Non-sense.

In Astrophysics, Hinduism, Indian Philosophy on May 17, 2011 at 10:19

True.

But there are people who made the Computer.

Reality is the Ultimate Cause.

A Scientist should know that there has to be cause for Every thing.

( Indian Philosophy has a different approach on this point)

Inability to distinguish between Religion and Metaphysics is a failing of Hawking,

What the Ultimate Cause is, in the Realms of Philosophy.

The very fact he is harping on Fear of death is an indication of his fear.

By denying the unknown he is trying o overcome his fear.

Let him have the luxury.

For more details on the subject read the blog at the end of this story.

Story:

“I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.”

“I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I’m not afraid of death, but I’m in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first,” he told the newspaper.

http://current.com/1bocmkc

Stephen hawking , in his forthcoming book the Grand Design makes interesting observations.While he , in his earlier book,Brief history of Time seemed to take  a philosophical position, which is unwarranted, as scientists normally  concern themselves to their discipline instead of trying to explain things from their discipline,in his latest book he has taken the position that God is not necessary for the creation of Universe.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-09-03-hawking02_ST_N.htm?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+usatoday-NewsTopStories+%28News+-+Top+Stories%29

The absurdity of this argument lies in the fact that he has taken or rather seems to take the concept of God according to Christianity.

Creation , according to  The Bible, is to have begun at a fixed point of Time.

This is not logically tenable.

Can he define ‘Some thing’ and ‘Nothing’?

Every effect has a cause, every Effect has more than one Cause ;a Cause may be a result of another Cause and an Effect may be a  Cause for another Effect.

In the first case, we credit an Event/Effect with a specific Cause relatively for this case for this cause  may be a result of another cause.

In the second case the reverse is true.Causes are classified into Immediate Cause, Concomitant Cause.Material Cause,Efficient Cause etc.No single entity is responsible for any Effect .Similar is the case with Effects.

Law of causality in nothing but a tool of mind to find a pattern for our convenience of understanding and classification.Things happenirrrespective of the fact whether we recognise them , classify them or not.

Things/Events happen-Period.

Unified Theory is as good as Chaos Theory.Both are equally true , depending on our perception.

As Immanuel Kant has observed Space and Time are the two spectacles through which we perceive.Take away the these twin concepts(in fact they are one), you can perceive or conceptualize nothing.

Therefore the causality is a myth.

Again Law of causality depends on two factors,Law of uniformity of nature and Law of Causation.

We know, or rather we think we know that the the law of of Uniformity of Nature will be there tomorrow as in Sun appearing to morrow.At best we may say it has happened till date and MAY be so to morrow.That is all.

We have already seen that law of Causality is a myth and only a convenient tool as science is .

Therefore the argument for First cause is not tenable(God).

Then how do we explain the Universe and Mind?

As said earlier things happen, happened ,and shall happen.

We are in the flow ,as Henri Bergson called it,elan vital-Stream of Consciousness.

We can not pin point a point of Time when this originated

Please refer my Blog on Time-a non linear theory for details.

Hence Hawking is right in so far as the concept of God as Christianity sees it.

Not philosophically correct.

Spinoza explains the Reality( God) thus.

“Substance is that which exists independently of any thing else and which does not need the conception  of any thing in order to be conceived”

Hinduism states that reality is without Cause,it is the First cause.It has no attribute.It is immanent.beyond human intellect.It is indescribable,It can not be known.it can only be experienced.It can not be defined but can be described by negating-not this, not this.

Hinduism states that things were, are and shall be.(The Bhagavad Gita).

Universe evolved both matter and Mind by the Sparsa( loosely trnslated means touching,grazing) of inanimate matter Prakriti or nature( not Nature) or qualities and dynamic or Flowing Energy Purusha.

They graze due to lila or playfully(loose translation) with out any specific purpose or purposeless may be a purpose.

Out these are formed the seeming first cause, mahat and 24 principles are evolved for the Creation.It does not Time reference.

“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing,” the excerpt says. “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to … set the Universe going.”-Hawking in his latest Book.

Exactly.This what Hinduism is about.

The dichotomy between western and oriental thought is due to the basic difference in the basic concept of Knowledge.

In the west knowledge is to be gained.A positive concept.-philosophically speaking.

In the east it is the removal of ignorance.

West follows the dictum Nihilo nihil Fit'( out of nothing comes).

East”This is full,That is Full; having taken Full out of Full, Full remains Full”

Hawking is right on the denial of God as conceptualized by Christianity ;wrong from the Indian and philosophical standpoint.

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  1. Man is famous because of his chair. That’s it. He is an ordinary scientist like his contemporaries. If you want to lead the life your way, just make your own philosophy.

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  2. This is precisely what I am talking about.
    Religion,according to Vedas,falls under ‘Mundane Knowledge'(Para Vidya-meaning lower knowledge).
    This knowledge is True, Relatively.
    Higher Knowledge is called Apara Vidya -Higher Knowledge, where the distinction between God /Universal Soul does not exist.
    This Absolute Knowledge,this can be experienced , not rationalized as one can never know feelings but rather feel them
    Reality is One and what we perceive is due nescience and knowledge is removal of this ignorance when the individual soul,if it can be called that way,realizes it is One with the Ultimate called Brahman, which is attribute-less

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  3. hinduism beleives in soul and afterlife for the soul;stephen hawkins does not;i agree with him;

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